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Overrated: Freddy
Underrated: Hag
Even: Spirit
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@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2327685#Comment_2327685
Right, and when you do, what does the survivor you just dropped chase with do? They jump on a gen, probably spend another 10-15 seconds finding a different survivor. Then what do they do? Hold w and immediately drop pallets. Now you just lost 2 gens instead of 3, but the 3rd is coming soon and you have a 4th starting to get done. Split pressure doens't work at top level play, Tru3 vs oracle proved that.
I'm at red ranks, and most killers I go against who are also red ranks don't seem to be having a problem with any of that. Some killers wont get a kill in some games, like survivors wont escape every game.
I feel like most of these discussions are just based on killer vs 4men swf, which is not all matches, and people shouldnt expect to win every game.
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At this point this should just be normal BP gains. Make at least a cake default in every match.
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@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2327679#Comment_2327679
Because they don't do gens.
Then drop chase and pressure gens?
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@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2327660#Comment_2327660
Sure it does. There is a difference between running away, looping the killer and winning mindgames (the fun part of the game) and literally just holding w, immediately dropping every pallet you come across and not event attempting to mindgame or save any pallet.
48 seconds is how long it takes to down a survivor if they hold w, drop no pallets, vault no windows, use no perks. Just holding w.
The type of playstyle you're describing is what rank 20 survivors do, and somehow, at rank 20, killer is much easier than survivor.
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I'd rather the grind be nerfed in general and be able to get all the perks after. But that's because I like to complete things and having everyone P3 with all perks.
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That doesnt answer anything to what I just said.
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Let me guess, some streamer mentioning holding W and dropping pallets and now everyone it's saying it's OP and complaining about it.
Players have always had to hold W and drop pallets, and now more than ever killers have more slowdown perks, toolboxes were nerfed.
Why is this an issue now?
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In this case, yes.
Her intentions were good, she was trying to help.
If she had sandbagged you on purpose or something like that, yes, then it would have made sense to get revenge.
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IMO they should reward you for buying more DLCs. Instead, they make the game even more tedious with all the grind and useless perks you have to unlock, in hope you can get a decent perk after grinding 100 bloodwebs.
This is even worse for new players. I'm at 4.5k hours and I'm still grinding. If I were to start the game now, I would have given up already.
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Survivor: Kindred, Totem Counter
Killer: Corrupt Intervention
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@danielmaster87 said:
I don't see how a killer can camp, tunnel, slug, and shake their head and don't get punished for any of it. What are the other survivors doing, just watching? They could be doing 5 gens in the amount of time the killer is doing that stuff.
Win = killer's fault, lose = killer's fault I guess.
The killer doesnt get as punished as the survivor who was camped/tunneled, and that's a fact.
Make so the camped/tunneled survivor gets points for the others doing gens and escaping.
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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2323534#Comment_2323534
Yet every game if been in has been a tunneling camping killer. Not a single bully squad.
For some killers a "bully squad" is a team that does gens and doesnt give them a free 4k.
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I literally hate this map and all my bp is going towards getting map offerings so i dont have to play on it.
Worst experience in the game.
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I didnt get one for dwight either.
And it's unfair how a killer doesnt have to do anything to get the crown but a survivor has to escape.
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@Bwsted said:
Region/time of the day?
I have 2.5k hours. I'm a killer main but I can hold my own. I'd like to not lose my sanity in solo during the event, I'm gonna be honest.
I play EU, morning/afternoon.
I'm also EU! My discord: Marv#7663
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319506#Comment_2319506
So no, you are not in favor of adding LGBT characters if they happen to fit a certain stereotype, even though some real-life LGBT people do fit certain stereotypes, which is what @Johnny_XMan has been saying. And then you told @Johnny_XMan that they shouldn't only want representation for LGBT people who think like they do, which is what you're doing.
Just for the record, I don't think the first character should be stereotypical either (though I'm sure bad faith actors will pretend they are in order to stir up controversy). I like accuracy, however.
Stereotypes are harmful 90% of the time. So no, I'm not in favor of adding something that will be a stereotype/token.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319497#Comment_2319497
So you are in favor of adding LGBT characters even if they happen to fit a certain stereotype (just like some real LGBT people)?
I'm in favor of having LGBT characters, as long as they don't look stereotypical/token, because that does more harm than actual inclusion, because it gives the message that to be LGBT you have to look a different way.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319490#Comment_2319490
You shouldnt only want representation for LGBT people who think the same as you.
Isn't that what you're doing, though, by purposefully wanting to exclude LGBT people who happen to fit a certain stereotype?
No it isnt. I wasn't the one @ someone and trying to tell them they were wrong for saying not all LGBT are visible.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319454#Comment_2319454
You know what I think it's
funnysad? When you claim you are part of the group asking for more representation, but only as long as it's with "less visibility".I never once used those two terms to address you, nor to "attack" you. I am simply baffled that you are so quick to pull out your LGBTQI+ card, all when I was trying to explain my use of the word "colorful" because you took it out of context in my original response.
Keep making claims that I am calling you names though. I am sure eventually it'll stick.
You called me "dear", which is very condescending and rude. You don't need to call someone a slur for it to be insulting.
If you want people to read what you have to say, don't talk to people like they're below you.
You shouldnt only want representation for LGBT people who think the same as you.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319432#Comment_2319432
Nothing passive aggressive about me. I gave you a direct answer.
I'm sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
It's funny how none of these "homophobes" and "transphobes" are the ones attacking LGBT people in this thread, yet the ones who claim they want representation are the ones who are reply to me in a passive aggressive and condescending way, someone who is LGBT, for having a different opinion and not wanting a stereotypical character.
Makes you think.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319345#Comment_2319345
"Dont try to put me into the "homophobe" category just because I don't happen to agree with you on LGBT not being a visible thing"
I think you did that for yourself dear.
I never called you a homophobe. I am simply correcting you by explaining why the word "colorful" was used. I specifically said where the story FITS. Let me give you an example.
Let's say you have a gay character who since they were a child loved to play dress up. In fact so much that as they reach their teens, they start auditioning for their local musical theater because it has long been a dream of theirs to be a part of that world. They often dress in colorful attire due to their love for theater and costumes. I think it is safe to say that it is a personal fashion choice and something they grew up with. Not because they are a gay person. Yes not every gay dresses the same way, Speaks the same way, but sometimes it has nothing to do with them trying to fit into a mold, it is simply who they are. If someone feels comfortable wearing a tutu skirt and they happen to be a guy, so what? Why (above all people) does it bother YOU?
Because you on the other hand think its ok to hide their way of expressing themselves, due to someone else's insecurities and calling it a stereotype. It sounds to me like when I was in school and I would get told "Don't wear that because you are a boy not a girl". Sorry, but your fear of stereotype isn't my problem anymore.
You asked me if I have a problem with gay people, since I disagreed with your opinion.
I'm not even going to read the rest after you called me "dear". I don't like people who act condescending and passive aggressive.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319345#Comment_2319345
No one said it should be visible though?
people are just asking for equal treatment to the already included heterosexual relationships.
and devs are working with people from GaymerX to avoid harmful stereotypical portrays
I just replied to someone who mentioned "colorful clothes" which happens to be a stereotype.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2319194#Comment_2319194
Not really. You clearly took my response out of context to fit your stereotype comment. I said should the story FIT. I wear colorful clothes because I like them and I happen to be gay. Not because I want to be a stereotype.
Do you have a problem with people wearing colorful clothing? Or just gay people?
Like, I don't understand what you are asking for... a closeted gay person?
Yes, me as someone who is trans and bi, i totally have a problem. Dont try to put me into the "homophobe" category just because I don't happen to agree with you on LGBT not being a visible thing, because making it visible leads to stereotypes
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@dspaceman20 said:
Ok so here is how this post is going to go down.
People are going to come in saying something mildly homophobic possibly saying " lgbt characters shouldn't be in the game" and they will claim they won't care which completely contradict themselves by posting at all.
A moderator will pop for a few seconds and remind everyone to be respectful and no one will listen.
Then there is going to be those edgy homophobes posting, then GoodBoyKaru10, Mooks and Orion ect is going to get into an argument with said people about this subject with everyone being passive aggressive.
Then this post will get over 200 comments and completely shift to politics or religion regarding lgbt and then a moderator will come in and shut this post down and bring us all back to earth from arguing with their wisdom and then this post will fade into obscurity.
Did I miss anything or did I sum up correctly the events that is going to take place?
@FengisKawaii said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2318998#Comment_2318998
You missed the part where vocal supporters of the representation cause act hostile, ignorant and entitled towards everyone who doesn´t kiss their feet, even attacking those who support them.
This pretty much. I am trans and bi, yet they will throw people who they claim they want representation for under the bus if they have a different opinion.
IMO there are too many of these threads and they always end up the same, people fighting over politics.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2318887#Comment_2318887
A lot of times it isn't visible because it isn't accepted. Like in the real world.
I don't care in what manner they decide to bring a LGBTQI+ character, as long as A) they look good (because I am a sucker for good cosmetics) B) they have an awesome storyline. To me it sounds like you want them to 'touch' on their sexuality, whereas someone like me wants them to be out and without a care in the world, because they feel free to be themselves.
If that means the character wants to wear colorful clothes (as an example) because it fits their story. Then so be it.
LGBT = Colorful? See that's a stereotype right there.
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@Edgars_Raven said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2318908#Comment_2318908
Run small game, its a great perk 🤷♂️
Or, hear me out, I shouldnt have to use a perk in solo when I'm already in disadvantage when swf gets it for free.
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I'd be fine with noed if they gave solo survivors a totem counter basekit.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
Add an old lady! We don't have any! They can start by being more diverse with ages.
This! I've been wanting one for a long time. We already have Bill as an old man.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2318865#Comment_2318865
What makes you think they'd make it a stereotype? Seriously, I'm interested, because the lore writing team have proven themselves mostly competent thusfar.
Edit: not to mention they're working with lgbt+ charities to get this representation right.
Someone being lgbt a lot of times isn't visible.
And you mentioned because straight people make their personality about their sexuality (even though being in a relationship is not really the same), there is a really bad stigma about LGBT characters being made in a way that all that there's about them is the fact that they're lgbt (a really good a recent example is q-force).
I think instead of making a character that the whole focus is their gender/sexuality, it should be mentioned in a lore like it's just that, a lore part. Like they did with david having a girlfriend or whatever.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2318853#Comment_2318853
Devs can use heterosexual relationships just fine without making it a personality (except Frank and Julie let's ignore them) so idk why everyone brings up the possibility of an lgbt+ character, especially one in a same-Sex relationship, being written like that
Not all of us want to be a stereotype in a video game
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2217832#Comment_2217832
Personally, I have to send gg.
Idc if people send me gg 🤣🤣🤣 so long as they are chill afterwards
Not sure how it works on console, but on steam you can make so only friends can message you.
For me it does stop people from taking the time to add me to just be rude, and usually only people who want to play together will add me.
If you have a similar system on console I’d try to use it
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That is why I never say anything in post game chat.
If they all died at 5 gens, how much of a “gg” was it, really?
And like others have pointed out, the :) smiley is quite sarcastic indeed.
I feel like it all depends on context. If survivors told a killer “gg :)” when they didn’t get a single hook, it would have been seen the same way imo
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@coaltrain503 said:
Just gotta say, after thousands of matches where survivors all think they're good because they're on comms with their friends: you guys aren't as good as you think you are. Literally. Remove the comms, and then see what happens. Any game with a 4v1 will be extremely easy for the 4 if that 4 just happens to all be on comms. Trust me, after all the toxic ######### and teabagging I have put up with, you guys just think you're good. Stop being toxic and just play the damn game.
So what you're saying is that solo q is underpowered and it's easy to 4k with, which means you would agree that solo q needs a buff
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The game is SWF sided not survivor sided, like someone already said above.
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@MadLordJack said:
Anyone can make it to rank 1. You don't have to be good at the game, you can cheese your way there quite easily.
The reason I don't like going against 4 rank 1 survibors is because that's definitely a co-ordinated swf team and I don't play Spirit, Nurse or Blight every game. And as much as I love Plague, that W key is just too much for her.
So you say everyone can get to rank 1, but then said if there's 4 rank 1 survivors is a SWF. Which one is it?
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To the killer side: Bill because it seems like every time I have one on my team I get killed more often.
To the survivor side: Hate to say it but spirit. She never really killed anyone afaik.
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@kate_best_girl said:
I’ve noticed this when survivors will complain all day about facing the same 3 killers but then whenever they face someone outside the ‘meta’ they’ll bully the ever living hell out of whoever it is. Do you only want more killer diversity for actual gameplay or just so you have easy bully material?
Just because I don't want to go against spirit 10 times in a row doesn't mean I'll bully someone who isn't playing as her.
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@Satelit said:
Actually her Mori just got leaked
That has been proven to be a false leak.
This is the real one https://twitter.com/Oddrich/status/1390471133468762112
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@Nos37 said:
I'm glad the points are gone.
Now when I see the last survivor struggle on the hook in the basement, I know they're doing it intentionally to deny me the hatch instead of simply "I want muh struggie pointzz..."
By that logic if someone gets facecamped they can just not struggle at all since they dont get anything for it, so the killer can go facecamp the next person and get a free 4k
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I'm gonna assume you mean either AFK killers or killers who just let you do gens but dont hit you at all just walk around doing nothing.
They're annoying, yes. No one likes that.
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@MongolPSR said:
Honestly this game is so overloaded with perks we might need to reach a point of consolidating perks down on both sides. Make bt, ds, and deadhard be a part of the survivor base kit. Let's make pop and BBQ (without the bonus bloodpoints) base on killer. I think the more we can add to the base kits the more we can actually allow for build variety. I'm not saying go crazy but the base survivor and killer kits have been the same since 2016. They can stand to have gotten better and more experienced at base.
I wouldn’t say BT and Deadhard basekit, but this nerfed DS version could definitely be basekit.
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@bjorksnas said:
Survivors just got one of the best anti tunneling changes in this update so that there is always an obsession and the threat of ds always looms, is that not enough
If a killer really wants to tunnel they don’t care about obsession/DS .
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I know you said not Quentin, but Quentin though.
On another note, maybe Jeff?
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@ZeusDE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2172586#Comment_2172586
Yeah that would be even better. I don't know why bloopoints are so special to the devs. There are so many players out there with 3000-10000 hours, most people haven't even maxed out with like 4000 hours. And as I said, the grind gets bigger with more dlcs. A double BP event every 1-3 Months won't hurt at all. Actually, i think that would be better for the devs, as players won't get frustrated that easily and quit, could buy more dlcs etc.
4k + hours here and can confirm.
This game is a grind fest even for veteran players, I can’t even imagine if I was starting right now.
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@Power_Guy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2172194#Comment_2172194
But winning ejects the Killer form the game.
People are acting like the Killer is boo-hoo evil mean man for playing his objective if he does not play the way Survivors want, or does not personally ensure he hooks every Survivor in rotating alphabetical order, thus ensuring everyone gets optimum play time.
The 👏 Killer's 👏 Job 👏 Is 👏 To 👏 Kill 👏
Not to ensure you get to play for 5 minutes before he kills you.
Not to ask you over PMs if it's okay to hook you now.
Not to keep a timer.
Not to ask permission to attack.
His goal, like Survivor's, in a PvP game, IS TO WIN.
Hitting the wounded Survivor achieves his goal quicker than hitting the healthy Survivor.
JUST LIKE SURVIVORS GO BACK TO ALREADY WORKED-ON GENERATORS INSTEAD OF RUNNING OFF TO A FRESH ONE.
But people acts like the Killer is being some evil, scummy troll because he's GASP playing his best to win! WHUUUUUUH!? Only Survivors are allowed to try winning, according to these forums!
Using 👏🏻 emojis doesn’t make your argument look any better.
A killer even when they lose, they still have the opportunity to play the game and do something about it. A survivor hardcore tunneled since the start of the match, does not.
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@konchok said:
Using perks to fix flaws in core game design is an issue and what actually gets abused as pre-nerfed DS shows. So rather than sticking your head in the sand like an osterich, you should learn to have an actual discussion.
Totally agreed. I play solo, and the only argument some people on here have is “use x and y perk then”. It’s like they don’t realize half of my perks are already to help me in solo Q so I can’t equip all these perks to fix a design flaw.
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EU here.
Survivor Q times at red ranks are instant during the day and I always get red ranked killers and red ranked team mates.
At night Q times takes 5-10 minutes and I get green and yellow ranked team mates with either a red ranked killer or a green ranked one.
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She is French Madagassian.
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@ProfGameAndTalk said:
When I solo queue and teammates are potatoes I'll intentionally run the killer over to a teammate. That and slow down in front of the teammate who is behind me so the killer can get them. Hilarity for hours!!
So you you're admitting to sandbagging team mates on purpose? kinda odd....