LegitAdventurer
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There are plenty of people who feel the exact same way I do because we aren't afraid of SWF groups lol. We fight(and kill) every lobby, every survivor, every challenge presented to us. And if I get outplayed then I get outplayed. But even against the best of survivors that doesn't happen very often for one, very important reason. I don't camp and I dont tunnel. Every second counts both as survivor and as killer. If I'm camping, or tunneling a survivor I'm just wasting my own time. I try to be pursuing atleast 2 survivors at all times.DudeDelicious said:
This is a rubbish response. The game was never designed around coordinated voice chat, hence why no in-game voice chat. It’s near impossible for a single player to combat such strategy because they can’t be damaging/guarding gens and chasing/downing survivors at the same time, no matter how skilled a killer they are at both of these essential gameplay mechanics.LegitAdventurer said:I think people would rather complain that SWF is imbalanced instead of learning how to beat SWF lol.
That just kinda sums up the gaming community as a whole lol. "This is too hard, instead of getting better myself, they have to make the game easier for me" -
Lol what? How? Hiding is a huge portion of this game. Does that mean all of the killers are poorly designed? I hide from all of them haha.DuckApproved said:@Steamtastic_Vagabond See all this talk about hiding, if the only way to counter a killer is to hide than that is a poorly designed killer
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The nurse ones. I just unlocked all the adept trophies as killer super quickly besides nurses. "Blink 3 times and succesfully grab a survivor." .3% of all players have this trophy. Personally I feel like I'm .never. going to get that trophy. The blink 3 times and land an attack seems a little more possible, even then, the player rate having that trophy is still less than 1% of all players have it.
Still working on survivor adept trophies since characters like David King and Ace Visconti get the badword end of the stick. Its near impossible to play against good killers with no perks. -
I think people would rather complain that SWF is imbalanced instead of learning how to beat SWF lol.
That just kinda sums up the gaming community as a whole lol. "This is too hard, instead of getting better myself, they have to make the game easier for me" -
4ks are near impossible because of the hatch. Maybe because I couldnt care enough about camping the hatch for 25 minutes waiting for a survivor to try and leave.captainlongshlong said:@LegitAdventurer said:
I litterally just faced a 4 stack claudette squad all dressed in the same exact ourfits with 4 medkits at rank 1 as the hag. A "low tier killer" and got a 3 stack. Thats a definite win in my book.The biggest issues with killers I believe is that they cry that they didn't get a 4k, so they didn't win. Hell, i even accept 2ks as wins sometimes. Just because you didn't get a 4k doesn't mean you didn't do good.
Anything less than a 4K is a big fat L for me.
If I can't secure the 4K, then I take a red hot poker, and insert it directly into my rectum.
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I litterally just faced a 4 stack claudette squad all dressed in the same exact ourfits with 4 medkits at rank 1 as the hag. A "low tier killer" and got a 3 stack. Thats a definite win in my book.
The biggest issues with killers I believe is that they cry that they didn't get a 4k, so they didn't win. Hell, i even accept 2ks as wins sometimes. Just because you didn't get a 4k doesn't mean you didn't do good. -
Nah fam. Ive been rank 1 forever. I can't escape it.Blueberry said:@LegitAdventurer said:
I think your best bet would be to play survivor more. Playing survivor has made me infinitely better as a killer. I'm no longer afraid of SWF anymore.You will be when you get to rank 1.
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I think your best bet would be to play survivor more. Playing survivor has made me infinitely better as a killer. I'm no longer afraid of SWF anymore.
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This would be a sick idea for one ofsthe new killers teachables
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All of my old friends on ps4 stoppedOrionsFury4789 said:
You're dodging over intended items and perks though, I get why you don't like them and how annoying they can be but there are also ways to counter it all (besides voice comm and DS) my point is on ps4 it will kill the game totally if something doesn't get done because people aren't gonna wait forever I saw with my own eyes a entire community completely switch their group to a red dead group from DBD because it wasn't working, I was in the group to find players and ended up leaving it, that's the reality of the situation. I've played twice as much killer as survivor lately because I love the game but I personally like to play as the survivor role that's why I bought the game and I feel ripped off when I buy cosmetics and find out no killer is gonna play against it because it just came out or some ridiculous reasonPiiFree said:@OrionsFury4789 said:
...if the game truly is unbalanced as bad as some people think than it's dire that we let the devs collect the data to fix the problems and balance the game? Am I right?The devs themselves (namely McLean) admitted live on stream that they are "well aware that the game is not balanced".
People dodge because devs DON'T care about balance. They are aware of it but are too afraid to balance it. I'm looking solely at SWF and DS now, as those are the main sources for rigged, imbalanced matches. Dodging is the only way to deal with it on the long run if you don't want to end up in a mental disaster.
Fix SWF and fix DS and I'm sure you'll see a lot less dodging. SWF is the main reason why Killers dodge, items and skins are mostly irrelevant unless you try to bring 4 toolboxes, because that just screams GEN RUSH and no one likes to deal with that.
...and the fact that most SWFs try especially hard to be as annoying as possible makes the whole situation even worse. Just yesterday faced one of those legendary 4x DS cancer squad. You're asking to get dodged if you play like that.
Playing due to wait times. Its evolve all over again. I've honestly considering putting one foot out the door myself. I like the game alot on both sides. But i dont like Lobby Waiting Simulator. -
I don't use a single thing in this bag lolNathanExplosion said: -
Which is also frustrating as hell. Survivors DC or suicide just as much as killers. And as someone who play both sides its annoying as badword, wether I'm playing survivor or killer.Ryuhi said:@LegitAdventurer said:
DemonDaddy said:Lobby dodge can be for any reason and should be. The whole point of the game is to have fun and if you feel that it will be less than that back out. Shouldn't matter what side, equipment or character is the cause. Maybe you feel your teammates are instigating a tough match with equipment choice, 4 survivors with the same appearance, or you don't have good addons to compete with multiple toolboxes and medkits. If they don't want to play that match, so be it, rather that then a killer putting themselves in a corner to deny points or survivors dc/force kill themselves. I'd much rather spend the match with people that will actually try and play.
You say it doesn't matter what side but like..survivors will literally never dodge. We cant see the killer, or their items, not only that but we waited probably 15 minutes to find that game. There's no way we're dodging lol
survivors dont often lobby dodge, but they sure as hell suicide on first hook and/or dc.
This isn't one of those killer vs survivor moments, this is just plain unsportsmanlike bs that just ruins the game. This is a player situation. We aren't all fighting and playing sides. Both sides suck.
But in general I will say, killers will use aaaany excuse to dodge or DC. Survivors arent much better with DCing, but they honestly arent as bad as killers lol. Probably because they cant see mori's before game. Alot of survivors are sad saps who can't handle mori's just like killers cant handle toolboxes, medkits, keys, maps, flashlights. Basically any item tbh lol.
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You say it doesn't matter what side but like..survivors will literally never dodge. We cant see the killer, or their items, not only that but we waited probably 15 minutes to find that game. There's no way we're dodging lolDemonDaddy said:Lobby dodge can be for any reason and should be. The whole point of the game is to have fun and if you feel that it will be less than that back out. Shouldn't matter what side, equipment or character is the cause. Maybe you feel your teammates are instigating a tough match with equipment choice, 4 survivors with the same appearance, or you don't have good addons to compete with multiple toolboxes and medkits. If they don't want to play that match, so be it, rather that then a killer putting themselves in a corner to deny points or survivors dc/force kill themselves. I'd much rather spend the match with people that will actually try and play. -
It isnt the items though man. Killers just say its the items as an excuse to dodge. They literally dodge for any reason. I get dodged solo queuing lmao. Killers are just terrified to play this game, its a classic lion and the mouse scenario.BO0ON said:My issue is not how it impacts the game. Its the killers deciding not to play against people who use them.. and having us wait extra long than we already should have been.
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I don't mind killers seeing the items, in my opinion they dont impact the game that much. Hence why I rarely ever bring in an item as a survivor. Killers dodge for literally anything "i think i know that user name" dodged. "They have a claudette on the team" dodged. "More than one survivor joined at the same time" dogded "they have a flashlight" dodged. "Medkit" dodged. "Toolbox" dodged. How do you ever expect to get better if you cant handle ANYTHING? But then expect survivors to be totally fine with camping, tunneling, ebony mori's?Like as a survivor I don't care if a killer uses good add ons or offerings, theyre a part of the game, theyre intended to be used. Same with camping and tunneling, do what you gotta do. You'll never hear me crying about it.
The SECOND that the game sn't going the killers way and we "gen rush" aka you camped and tunneled and never once patrolled the gens, survivors are toxic. It's so silly. Gen rushing isn't real, if we all do seperate gens, which is yano...the survivors job? And you never once come check my gen. I'm supposed to just leave my gen because the killer might get mad that I finish it to fast and DC? lol
The killer has an unwritten rulebook for survivors and the survivors have an unwritten rulebook for killers and neither of us have to follow it.
But what we DO have to do is play the game, ive started a list of people who quit games, started this maybe two days ago and already have half a page of names lmao. Ps4 is super sad. Wait times are impossible, and we wait and wait just to get dodged and DC'd.
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Be like this guy. This guy #########.perotx said:I don't DC.
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Then use your m2. Nothing is stopping you but you. Get good at using it in a more controlled manor and I guarantee you'll learn to have more fun with him and have more control with him, on that map and on other maps because of it.HavelmomDaS1 said:
Read carefully my friend. My question was: Why should I play billy if I'm going to play M1 all time? I want to play billy cuz its fun to cruze around the map at high speed, don't you get it? I can still win on lerrys, but was it fun? Not when really, when my intention was to play billy to use M2 most if the time.LegitAdventurer said:
Any killer can perform properly on any map my guy. It's just about playing smart. You know that saying work smarter not harder?HavelmomDaS1 said:
Oh, are you an undercover salty survivor? Unless you can explain how you can use your M2 ability to apply map pressure and travel from gen to gen on this map and not just play an M1 killer I can't take you serious. There is nothing to practice, it's just playing smartly an M1 killer. But if I want to play just an M1 killer then I use someone else and not billy, smh.Broosmeister said:
Because he actually practised on that map unlike a dodging pussy like yourself.HavelmomDaS1 said:
Really? How is that?Tsulan said:Nope, never.
Paradoxically I perform best with Billy on Lerys.
Everytime you dodge or dc you're litterally just screwing yourself out of experience. Like for example, I used to haaaate playing on The Game. But through countless countless losses ive finally gotten really good at that map. Its honestly one of my favorites now. You've gotta hate something before you can love it. -
Any killer can perform properly on any map my guy. It's just about playing smart. You know that saying work smarter not harder?HavelmomDaS1 said:
Oh, are you an undercover salty survivor? Unless you can explain how you can use your M2 ability to apply map pressure and travel from gen to gen on this map and not just play an M1 killer I can't take you serious. There is nothing to practice, it's just playing smartly an M1 killer. But if I want to play just an M1 killer then I use someone else and not billy, smh.Broosmeister said:
Because he actually practised on that map unlike a dodging pussy like yourself.HavelmomDaS1 said:
Really? How is that?Tsulan said:Nope, never.
Paradoxically I perform best with Billy on Lerys.
Everytime you dodge or dc you're litterally just screwing yourself out of experience. Like for example, I used to haaaate playing on The Game. But through countless countless losses ive finally gotten really good at that map. Its honestly one of my favorites now. You've gotta hate something before you can love it. -
I thought this was a troll post but then realized you were serious. Yikes.
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DCing on both sides is annoying as badword. Not just one side. BOTH sides. This isn't a them vs us type deal. This is all of us, as gamers. Like Gillette said, we have to be better.Master said:@SailedSavage said:
Played against [annonymous] Doctor just now who DCed before we could all escape. Had a lamp and everything. This is about the 5th or 6th time since the event that this has happened. I'm getting robbed of event and blood points I earned all because some dude with a fragile ego rage quits to spite the survivors that bested him. Same goes for survivors quitting if they get downed to quick in the beginning or before their last hook. Idk how many posts are needed to make a change.Now survivors start to realize how annoying DCing is. You litrally have to suceed an 50% rate or sth absurdly high until you will get punished. Guess why survivors can DC all the time (also not during events) and get away with it
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I do this too lol.Master said:@friendlykillermain said:
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Because its a killers problemvery true best you can do is just hunt them down
I always go afk, they can waste their own time if they want, I will take that as a shard mine
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As annoying as both camping and teabagging is, they're both a part of the game. Just camp the teabaggers. Spin them around a couple times before you hook them. Get gen rushed and just drink in the salty "CAMPER" messages you get post game and repeat.Master said:@LegitAdventurer said:
Someone once told me to run franklins demise to make them regret not leaving.You can camp every tbagger and make them regret tbagging. Will it stop them from tbagging? No
I've actually noticed in my personal experience most survivors don't teabag as much anymore? Maybe thats just me lately. -
Someone once told me to run franklins demise to make them regret not leaving.
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Have you seen these forums by any chance? You really want end game chat full of these people? Lol
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Stop tunneling and play sporadically. Don't get caught up chasing one survivor, try and keep them off the gens more than getting downs and hooks.
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I'm sorry but just stop. Saying you can't get a single kill unless you play nurse against SWF sounds like a personal problem. I play against SWF all the time and don't have any issues playing against these "hackers" as you put it.Chicken said:@Yamaoka then you do realize that with a 4 man swf group you CAN'T kill anyone without camping unless you're a god nurse.
if i get 2 kills most of the games thats because i'm in a rank that suits my skills. if i'm #########. rank 19.
if i'm average: rank 9
If i'm good: rank 1
but this doesn't make sense when a swf group takes place because they're basically hacking with a third party sorftware like Discord.
Where's the git gud doctor meme when you need it? -
I'm terrible with leather face. Good survivors are able to juke my chainsaw in a cramped hallway or a wide open field just by swaying back and forth
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The easiest and simpilest counter to Borrowed Time? Don't camp.
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I enjoy playing Legion lol. I feel pretty good with him. I defintely dont understand the people saying "once Legion finds you he's impossible to lose him" as a survivor I generally don't find losing Legion to be all that tough. And as a Legion player I lose players pretty easily sometimes since i can't see the scratch marks and using the Feral Frenzy blocks off like half your screen lmao.
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I don't mind killers seeing the items, in my opinion they dont impact the game that much. Hence why I rarely ever bring in an item as a survivor. Killers dodge for literally anything "i think i know that user name" dodged. "They have a claudette on the team" dodged. "More than one survivor joined at the same time" dogded "they have a flashlight" dodged. "Medkit" dodged. "Toolbox" dodged. How do you ever expect to get better if you cant handle ANYTHING? But then expect survivors to be totally fine with camping, tunneling, ebony mori's?
Like as a survivor I don't care if a killer uses good add ons or offerings, theyre a part of the game, theyre intended to be used. Same with camping and tunneling, do what you gotta do. You'll never hear me crying about it.
The SECOND that the game sn't going the killers way and we "gen rush" aka you camped and tunneled and never once patrolled the gens, survivors are toxic. It's so silly. Gen rushing isn't real, if we all do seperate gens, which is yano...the survivors job? And you never once come check my gen. I'm supposed to just leave my gen because the killer might get mad that I finish it to fast and DC? lol
The killer has an unwritten rulebook for survivors and the survivors have an unwritten rulebook for killers and neither of us have to follow it.
But what we DO have to do is play the game, ive started a list of people who quit games, started this maybe two days ago and already have half a page of names lmao. Ps4 is super sad. Wait times are impossible, and we wait and wait just to get dodged and DC'd. -
I don't necessarily de-rank but I defintely do my best to not rank up. If this means playing well all game and dying at end game to try and avoid the double pip, well..whoops.
It doesn't really work since even a potato could easily climb to rank 1. -
They need to buff sabo. Theirs almost no reason to use that perk. I sabo'd 8 hooks in one game with ONLY a yellow toolbox. There's really no reason to use the perk sabo when you can just use a toolbox lol.
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But also based on watching your video it seems like they were mad that you weren't healing them? It is called after-care for a reason lol.
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I had this. It was a match me and my buddy and another 2 SWFs who were just working with the killer to kill us. They were running towards me and my buddy and making loud sounds(fast vaulting windows and lockers), not doing gens, farming us off hooks and the killer never once went for the 2 randoms.
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No mither is the most difficult play style.
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This isnt true. I've smashed multiple per one hook. But i do believe when the survivor gets saved/dies on hook it reverts back to yellow.Tzeentchling9 said:You can only break one lantern per hooking and someone on death hook only counts as being on it for a short time. I'm also pretty sure the Survivor getting saved resets the lanterns pretty quick too. -
Killers would still dodge. And remove keys? Lol what?Eninya said:Remove keys and just not show survivor items in the lobby.
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Yes, lets remove YouTubers and Streamers from the game, that's a wonderful fix lol. That's like taking sports and not broadcasting on television and wondering why nobody is watching lol.
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Swf is cheating just as much as camping and tunneling is cheating. It isnt. Both sides just invent this rulebook of what the other side is supposed too and not supposed to do. Its so annoying, just play the game and stop disconnecting because things don't go your way, yano?
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This game is a sinking ship. Killers like that are going to drown this game. I play both survivor and Killer and i don't dodge, ever. I even played (earlier today) against a 4 man SWF claudette squad with 4 med kits. I still played against them and got a 3k so everyone needs to stop moaning and crying about how op the survivors are! It's so sad.
There should defintely be a penalty for dodging lobbies, give them a 15 minute stackable ban everytime they dodge.
As a survivor we wait anywhere from 10-20 minutes just to get dodged, sometimes multiple games in a row. And I dont even play 4 man SWF, i don't play claudette, i rarely use items, i don't use decisive strike, i don't teabag.
Both sides have all of these "excuses" and "rules" that the other side can't do because everyone is so fragile. Killers cry, survivors cry. Why can't we just all play the game that we're choosing to play? I don't disconnect and dodge my games. Why does everyone else? I never understood playing a game just to quit when you aren't good at it. -
Yeah right lol. We already wait 10 minutes at a time for games just to get dodged. Maybe if they wanted to drown this already sinking game.
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Sounds like a survivor lobby on ps4 lol
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Everyone talks about Legion as a tunneling killer but I'm a total spass when I play him. Maybe its because my two mains before him were Hag and then Spirit. But i just inherited the harassing rubber band style from them and thats how I play Legion.
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I really find Legion alot of fun and not for the tunnel/moonwalk concept. I think Legion is really good for focusing control. Running a generator build ruin.pop goes the weasel.overcharge.moniter and abuse
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Thats valid. But I even see more or less notable players complaining about him here on the forums. I've never seen Legion as that much of a threat but I also don't think hes useless.Master said:Who cares about low ranks?
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GT gotenks confirmedPudding said:i want two dwarfs on top of each other with a trenchcoat pretending to be a tall person.
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That, i did not know.ClogWench said:
Unless I'm wrong, the timer no longer goes down when you're in a chase. You have to hit them to down them again instead of chasing them until they fall.LegitAdventurer said:
What? That isn't a thing lol. They just nerfed how long it was active for.ClogWench said:
Id argue the change to Borrowed Time was more of a buff. But compared to its older version when it affected the rescuer, it's a lot more manageableLegitAdventurer said:Also they've nerfed Borrowed Time with the Legion launch. So if anything they aren't appeasing to the survivors. -
What? That isn't a thing lol. They just nerfed how long it was active for.ClogWench said:
Id argue the change to Borrowed Time was more of a buff. But compared to its older version when it affected the rescuer, it's a lot more manageableLegitAdventurer said:Also they've nerfed Borrowed Time with the Legion launch. So if anything they aren't appeasing to the survivors. -
Also they've nerfed Borrowed Time with the Legion launch. So if anything they aren't appeasing to the survivors.
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You're lucky you don't play on PS4 where those are common perks and not teachables or else you'd really be crying. BT is a staple perks over here.ReikoMori said:@Naiad said:
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If I dodge a lobby it is because A) the pings are all outside of my comfort zone or B ) I don't feel like dealing with certain potential scenarios. SWF isn't a big concern to me yet as I'm not at a rank where it matters just yet, but I don't like trying to find Claudette as she's hard to see. I also don't like Bills cause I don't enjoy BT and Unbreakable. My go to when the pressure is on is start slugging. I'm old school like that, but some days you just don't want the extra headache.Dodging bad ping is fine. 4 toolboxes? Fine doges. 4 flashlight? Go ahead. I can somewhat understand those. Too many immersed Claudette's are a problem but 1 or 2? But Bills? You know any survivor can run Unbreakable and/or BT? In fact I don't even play Bill and have run them on several occasions. That's like saying every David runs Dead Hard or every Laurie runs DS. So I just don't see the point in dodging particular survivors. I don't like the idea of killers dodging survs based on the skins they choose to run because that's all survivors are, especially at red/purple ranks. Skins. Most survs by that point will have a build they like running and will have it on their main no matter who that main is.
I see one bill, I'm fine. Two I'll deal. 3? Nah, fam I know this trick. BT into my BT into my BT into my Unbreakable, Into my adrenaline. It has happened to me too much for my taste.
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I used to get called a camper constantly as the hag. Even though I use Devour Hope which is the inherent opposite of camping.
But but but but muh traps! Sorry that the hag can teleport?
