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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2508668#Comment_2508668
how did bhvr kill spirit? hasn't she been the same since release?
######### I read this post wrong 🤦♂️
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Spirit. She’s more than a character to me.
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Let’s play a game: Take a shot whenever @TheDarkTyrant posts something about Nemesis.
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@sluc16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2508308#Comment_2508308
Well, clearly is does not work
Well if you’re playing a new killer then the system didn’t do it’s job and as @Mooks said, the grades have nothing to do with who you got matched with.
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@Raz_cr0w said:
people like you ruin the game. "I dOnT WaNt To PLaY aGaInSt ThIs KiLlEr". She's in the game deal with it or stop playing
Exactly these people acting like they’re entitled to have every game go their way are hilarious.
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@sluc16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2508285#Comment_2508285
"You will be matched with players who are a similar level with their survivors and killers" that is literally a description of the new system
Yeah in terms of your skill level. The ranks have nothing to do with your skill.
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Those ranks don’t mean anything anymore other than showing how much you’ve played the game.
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@HaunterofShadows said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2508211#Comment_2508211
Probably because op called playing a killer toxic. That seemed to be the calamity of this thread
Yeah I guess that is a way to create a viral thread.
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How is this thread still going?
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They’re definitely not scrapping it. I believe that they worked on it for a year and a half. To them, all that time and resources they spent on it would be a waste. They have a tendency to have that mindset.
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@C3Tooth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2507122#Comment_2507122
All spirit mains are tryhard
proving shes cutie
🗿🗿🗿
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Body is one character too short
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Yeah he is very hard to play and there’s not a huge reward for learning his power. The lunge bug doesn’t help with that either.
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Yeah Netflix sure does own the word “Surge”
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@ReikoMori said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506110#Comment_2506110
The reason we don't have old Freddy is because of a few things:
He couldn't actually attack or block survivors without them being asleep
New survivors had a lot of difficulty understanding how to exactly deal with Freddy
His old passive effective and addons basically drew out games unnaturally long.
This all made for a killer who fell into the dreaded camp of Not actually good, but also obnoxious to survivors to an extreme degree.
Well they could’ve gave him a rework to keep his same concept and fix those issues, not to make him a more janky and annoying version of Clown.
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BHVR clearly doesn’t care.
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@blue4zion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506110#Comment_2506110
Yeah but he wasn't fun for either side, especially newer survivors struggled and as killer sitting there watching your totem get cleansed while they fell asleep was the worst.
I’ve heard a lot of people say that he was a fun and unique killer for both sides. Especially @GeneralV who is the best Freddy main I know.
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@fr0sty1223 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506355#Comment_2506355
Then people like you should be encouraging the devs to balance spirit so she is so anti fun and op.
I have though...
@GannTM said:
As we all know, Spirit has very little counterplay in chase which makes her unfun to face. You can compare the lack of counterplay Spirit has with Nurse, but what makes Nurse much more balanced is the fact it takes a long time to master her. Spirit doesn't really have that much of a learning curve even though she is almost as strong as Nurse, which is honestly not fair.
I do think that people that make the statement that Spirit takes no skill whatsoever are false because she does take skill. I do think that she takes more skill than some weaker killers like Legion and Wraith. It may be easier to get kills with Spirit because she's a much stronger killer than those two but if we're talking actually getting good with killers' powers, then, in my opinion, Legion and Wraith are easier than Spirit. When you really think about it though, Legion and Wraith being easy to use are not that big of a deal because they're pretty weak killers (although I'm not sure what tier Wraith will end up now that he's about to receive a buff but he still won't be top tier). I think it's totally fine to have simple killers like Legion and Wraith as long as that killer isn't so strong. You look at Spirit being a killer that's so strong but is fairly easy to get good with, so that's obviously a huge issue that needs to be looked at. Freddy has that same issue though I don't think Spirit is nearly as easy as him.
The reason Spirit isn't that hard to get good with isn't that it's easy to track survivors you can't see, because I do think there are some situations where it can be hard to track, especially if a survivor has Iron Will and/or Ace without Stridor. The thing that makes Spirit easy is because she doesn't have any major penalties for misusing her ability and because survivors don't really have anything to react to. Also, standing still getting hits that way is something my dog, Pluto, can do. Think about other chase oriented killers:
- Nurse: she holds her hand out giving you a queue that she's about to blink; she has a couple of seconds of fatigue for misusing her blink with a fairly short power gauge.
- Blight: you can clearly see him running towards you and does a roar when he begins a lethal rush; he has to inject himself for a few seconds for misusing his ability along with a long power gauge depending on how many lethal rushes were used.
- Billy: you can hear his chainsaw and he clearly holds it out; he's stunned for a little bit for bumping into a wall and has a little cooldown for missing along with that stupid overheat mechanic that made no sense why it was added in.
- Oni: he makes a global noise when he begins blood fury and starts to demon dash; he's stunned for a few seconds for missing an attack on top of having to go back to being an M1 killer if his power runs out having to collect enough blood orbs to get his power back.
There are some other killers I didn't mention but you get the picture. Pretty much all I'm saying is Spirit needs to give cues to survivors on what she's doing and also having some kind of way to get punished for miss-phasing. Not necessarily a nerf because just nerfing her with directional audio and post-phase fatigue without anything to compensate for that could make her unbearable to play if it was implemented in a careless way. There needs to be something done though.
Y'all probably know me from many other threads on these forums, and it's very obvious that my favorite killer is Spirit. I really want her to be a balanced killer with a very high skill cap. She just isn't in her current form though, and it's about time the devs listen to the community after over 2 years of Spirit complaints. Whenever I go in with my Meghead ego playing survivor, I'd 100% rather play against Nurse than Spirit. It honestly hurts me having to say this being someone that loves Spirit, but trust me, I'm trying just as hard as most of y'all are in getting her the balance change she needs. Always seeing "nerf Spirit" threads can be tiresome but let's keep them up if it means the devs will one day decide it's time to change her. I know this is BHVR we're talking about so it's hard to know if they will actually listen.
@GannTM said:
I feel like a lot of people tend to overthink changing Spirit. Either their ideas give her a completely different identity that doesn't go with her lore or they make her significantly weaker. Being a Spirit main, I know this killer very well and I'll give my thoughts about how I think she should be reworked.
- The Spirit's moaning noises should be a little bit more inconsistent than they are right now, and they should be directional when she's using her power. It shouldn't be 100% accurate on the survivor's end as I feel like she'd be easy to loop if it was. On the killer's end, the Spirit player should have an indicator on their screen all the time that will show when Spirit's moaning or not. This will make the Spirit player be smart about when she should start using her power. This will be an even exchange of mind games from both the survivor and killer. Standing still getting a free hit shouldn't be a feature anymore as it takes little to no effort to get a hit that way.
- The Spirit's power recovery speed should always be at 10 seconds regardless of how long she phases. This will be a nerf and a buff to Spirit imo. It will keep the player from spamming short bursts with more room for error, and getting around the map with the full duration will be more effective.
- Buff her movement speed to 180% to compensate.
- Passive phasing isn't healthy and isn't very useful as it is so I would suggest just removing it entirely. If passive phasing was to be kept in, I heard someone recently had an idea to make passive phasing only happen when Spirit's power is fully recovered which gives the survivors an idea her power is up.
Her add ons most definitely need a few changes.
- Mother-Daughter Ring is way too stupid of an add on. I think the duration of the phase should be cut to 3 seconds by default as the inability to see scratch marks isn't enough to compensate.
- Wakizashi Saya and Katana Tsuba should reduce the reappearance duration as it's so easy to get cheap hits with these add ons. If these add ons give her ridiculous lunges, they need to give the Spirit player less time to react to compensate.
- Juniper Bonsai and Dried Cherry Blossom are useless add ons that need a serious rework to make them viable. They should affect the frequency of Spirit's moaning instead of passive phasing.
- You can make an argument her green add ons need minor tweaks, but the ones I mentioned are the ones that really need to be changed.
- Father's Glasses, Prayer Beads Bracelet, Yakuyoke Amulet, all her yellow add ons (except for Juniper Bonsai), and all her brown add ons are all fine and don't need a change.
Also, this isn't necessary, but please give Spirit her own chase music. Every killer needs that.
@GannTM said:
As a former Spirit main that has probably played like 5 Spirit games the past month and a half to two months, I’m starting to want to get back into her again. However, I just can’t because I understand how painfully oppressive she is to go against and I just feel bad for survivors when playing as Spirit.
So devs, I know y’all probably aren’t going to do it any time soon but please just give her counterplay and raise her skill ceiling, even if it drops her to B or C tier. She’s by miles my favorite killer (not favorite character because Yui happily takes that spot) because her character’s awesome, visual design is awesome, and lore is so well-done. I miss being a Spirit main so I’m begging to see that Spirit nerf at some point in the future.
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Yeah that is definitely cheating.
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He's very hard to master and the reward doesn't match with Nurse and Blight despite them being equally as skillful. Also, his animations are janky, add ons are a joke, and the devs removed a lot of the fun things about him, like space Billy.
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@Purgatorian said:
I have suffered from depression anxiety and issues with my nerves for years. I have a lot of ups and downs, just take a look at my post history as my moods show there. I say this because there are people that understand what you're going through. You won't get any 'man up' or 'pull yourself together' which does not help in the slightest.
My advice is go speak to a doctor, they will diagnose you and try you on medications to stabilise your mood. You may have to try a few medications before you find the one right for you. They may also talk about counselling, take the offer, sometimes it's just good to talk to someone about it. I am from the UK though so these are free on the NHS, with the exception of prescription charges.
I urge you not to entertain the thoughts of taking your own life. It's hard as sometimes they are so 'noisy' up in your head, believe me I know. Please try and get help ASAP as suicide is final and there's no turning back from it.
All life is precious, it ends too soon. Please don't make it sooner than it needs to be.
Yeah I do feel bad about feeling that way. I will certainly avoid stuff like that in the future. Anyways, thanks for the comment <3
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506429#Comment_2506429
You won’t be good when she gets nerfed and you’re at low MMR
I don’t care if she does get nerfed, I’ll still play her because she’s my killer. I will never leave her again.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506425#Comment_2506425
that's not an opinion that's raw facts. also sometimes i play my flute or harmonica when i'm bored, takes mind off things. point being you could try learning or playing an instrument if you have one. that's another piece of serious advice i can give you.
Yeah that is true. Thanks for the advice, it means a lot <3
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506412#Comment_2506412
Stop playing her thanks
Nope I’m good :)
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@[Deleted User] said:
you ever take a stroll? wen there's a nice weather of course. that's what i do, mostly around evenings cuz the sun burns. sometimes you just gotta be one with nature you know? that's my serious advice. anyways good vibes from here, the universe will correct itself right?
I usually walk my dog around my neighborhood and it does make me feel good doing that. It is good to go outside and enjoy nature.
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I’m not gonna lie, I hope Spirit gets changed in some way to make her more fair for everyone. I will still play her no matter what they do to her. People like you though make me reconsider that thought.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506368#Comment_2506368
If you’re losing to old mettle of man, the problem isn’t the perk.
That’s a terrible comparison I’m sorry.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506355#Comment_2506355
If you like her for her gameplay then I genuinely don’t know what to say! I got bored of her after 2 games, she’s only there for people who can’t be bothered learning a killer.
Is there a problem with liking her gameplay? I play many other killers as well and I love Spirit the most so why is it such an issue to you?
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@dspaceman20 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506304#Comment_2506304
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506290#Comment_2506290
I don't understand why people have such a hard time reading the post before commenting.
Because they want to create us vs them drama whenever they can.
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@R2k said:
Game is survivor sided, and yet they still cry to make it easier. I guess devs should implement press to win button.
That’s not what the post said at all but good job.
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So have you ever thought about the people that like her? We will never be able to play our favorite killer because of people like you.
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@GrimoireWeiss said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/AJIXX2IBE5FC/my-image-288-29.png
I'd honestly take Haddonfield over Cowshed any day tbh.
Only now I noticed I hate the majority of maps in this game. Kind of sad when you think about it.
Same. Just wish every map can be like Coal Tower.
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@Star99er said:
Still waiting on those Haddonfield and Swamp map revamps.
I personally don’t mind swamp as much as many other maps.
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@Gplays2000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/281194/killer-adepts-are-much-easier-now
Did them all at red ranks new system so yeah….😂 they aren‘t that hard m8
Ok cool
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@xEa said:
There should be an extra garbage tier for RCPD.
As long as Haddonfield exist, I have to put it in its own tier.
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They should bring back old Freddy, back before his major rework in July 2019. I wasn’t around back then but his power looked so interesting and unique when I watched gameplay of him even though he wasn’t strong at all.
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Ruin and Undying already went through nerfs in the past.
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No too bad. I love opening the box. :)
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506070#Comment_2506070
both work. just don't forget the cows :)
Oh yeah definitely
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
I have a much better solution: delete the map.
Ong that would be one of the best things that ever happens to this game.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2506037#Comment_2506037
It's a big meteor and the map has accidentally been deleted and replaced with a big rock in the shape of Claudette morel.
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@brokedownpalace said:
I got Cenobites on my first game with him ❤️
I got adept Cenobite on my third attempt and on Haddonfield. I’m still trying to figure out how I did that because it’s not like I’m that good at the game.
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I rarely come across Billy, Plague, and Twins.
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Definitely Enduring for me.
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Unless if you’re a one-shot killer, you probably won’t have enough time to down them while DS is still up anyway if they’re fully healed.
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@ukenicky said:
I'd feel pretty proud of myself if I ran the killer for 5 gens. Yeah it sucks if I get left behind and or little to no Survival points but I probably wasn't getting much anyways in Objective or Altruism either.
I'd prefer my teammates all make it out alive. Heaven forbid the killer have NOED, STBFL and or Blood Warden and get a cheeky 4k at the end.
^^^
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@C3Tooth said:
These are the best dishes I can offer.
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: D there are more on my twitter
I love her so much <3
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@C3Tooth said:
You just cant host this party without inviting me.
Facts. Share us some of those amazing Spirit arts you made.

