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BigBubs said:
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SadonicShadow said:@Nick said:
@Entità said:
No extra iridescent shards? When you prestige a character, you become more lucky with their bloodweb...
Prestiging your character does nothing to your bloodweb, trust me.
Thats not true. When you prestige it specifically says you have a higher chance of getting more rare items on the bloodweb. Exact values no one knows and some struggle to notice a difference. I for one feel like i have noticed a slight difference in all of my bloodwebs since i usually see more purple and green items.
They've told us the percentage increase, if that means anything. Each prestige increase is 3% increase... of something
Would love to see the source.
It was on one of there streams. You care more than I do, I say you find that specific stream if you really care. Otheewise ask Docoktober, he made the Wiki for this game and has most of it's information... Good luck asking him nicely though. -
PinkEricka said:I would like to give a huge LOL to the people who were calling The Spirit weak when she was first released..
Now they’re getting their asses bodied by her left and right. Isn’t that something, huh? lmao.
I'm confused. I mean shes great fun to use, certainly not the worst killer *when add ons are in play* but I don't think she's a billy or nurse or even hag, so let's not take it to far. I play her at rank 1 too, and tbh, if it weren't for the fact the event came out around her buff she just recieved, Idk if she would be that awesome -
ScottJund said:
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ScottJund said:
Weederick said:Billy doesnt work with 110% movespeed, since he cant deal with loops. If you ever got looped as hag or huntress, you know what i mean (5-6 loops thanks to hitboxes), but billy has no means of countering it.
If that went live, he would drop down to mid-low tier to be THE MOST loopable killer in the game by far. That wouldnt be fun, since he would just be deleted from the viable killers.
The devs could rather focus on making him even more unique. Keep the strong chainsaw, but give him appropriate drawbacks. I always thought about him beeing the loudest and most aggressive of the killers. A savage.
Give him global, directional sounds. Everyone should hear exactly where billy is, when he is using his chainsaw. That would balance his map control (mobility) with survivors map control (knowing where he is) and also close the gap between swf and solo survivor. As SWF can communicate where killer are, which makes them op, but against bily, you know it anyways.
On top of that, double his cooldown and nerf his addons.
Just my 2c, i hope they wont just nerfhammer him mindlessly (like flickremoval).
Bro you should not be getting looped 6 times around anything with a 110% killer
Bro not everyone is as good as you bro.
Look Scott I love your streams. Best Huntress by miles. And it's cool to see you getting Spirit up to your Huntress skill.
But you have to realize that most of us aren't you, Marth, Tru3, or Monto.
You are far better than 99% of the killer player base. Judging everyone by your skill isn't fair. I know you'll try to be modest about your skill but inside you know how good you are.Dude I'm not even remotely humblebragging. You just go around corners tightly. That's it. You can't be looped 6 times around anything. It doesn't take skill at all.
I'm pretty sure Weederick was being facetious to make a point. M1 killers can be looped to a detrimental degree much easier, especially for those of us who DON'T play pc where you can more easily hug tight corners. That doesn't mean that the player should allow that to happen, they should just avoid bad loops then. I also don't think billy would work at 110%, I think his nerfs would need to come from somewhere else, because his power isn't the best tool for contestong loops in the first place. His miss/crash cooldowns could be slightly more punishing, for instance. Would make M1illy less viable, but also not ruin the core of the character. -
SadonicShadow said:
Thats not true. When you prestige it specifically says you have a higher chance of getting more rare items on the bloodweb. Exact values no one knows and some struggle to notice a difference. I for one feel like i have noticed a slight difference in all of my bloodwebs since i usually see more purple and green items.
They've told us the percentage increase, if that means anything. Each prestige increase is 3% increase... of something
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That's rich, seeing as what you said is very intellectualy dishonest. But way to put the Phallic in intellectual fallacy.Radiant said:My dear friend, this is so obvious that saying otherwise can only be said due lack of intellect or honesty.
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Tbh, I'm starting to realize that I've been playing survivor more than killer lately. The only killer I like to play consistently is the spirit because she's so fun and unique... for now.shyguyy said:@Dr_doom_j2 said:
shyguyy said:I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?
Are you serious? You are legitimately acting like this isn't the first balanced event. You kniw what happened most other events? Killers got cucked by survivors, over and over. Body blocking event hooks, saboing event hooks, tricking the killer to farm with them then after getting theirs, running away from event hook areas.
It isn't so much the fact I think the way they handeled the BP for this event is fair, I don't think it's that fair. I think it's dumb you stop interacting once you have all 30, as if survivor side isn't meager enough in return. But the thing is, survivors are crying like they just lost their first born child to this event. The level of whine over matter here is gross. Most survivors aren't even bothering with the offering on ps4 which is really annoying. Just enjoy it and shut up or don't, it has almost no bearing on most games from what I've played, aside from the ones everyone wants to farm in.
Literally all I am saying is why can survivors not continue to get the extra blood points for the event? Why can killers continue to get theirs? Hell, lets make it so killers cant get their extra blood points for hooks after they get their 30 vials. Would that be better? Of course not because I am assuming you play killer mostly right?
I don't disagree with you completely, the way they did the event does limit the potential by putting a cap on vials and not letting you actively participate in getting the group more points, or basically in the event at all. I think it's dumb, but that doesn't mean I agree that the event is in killers favor. If you don't like playing killer, well too bad if you want more points or to get two full costumes.
It sucks because killers inherintly get sabotaged of their goals, but it's always much worse during an event because now you have to build around getting specific hooks (which means 1-2 perk slots you have to surrender), body blocking becomes much more common (although I will say the heal nerf may have curtailed this a bit.), and in this event's specific case, the fact that survivors won't be throwing down any offerings after a couple days, means that as a killer this event is possibly the biggest grind we've faced, not to mention you need at least 4 offerings to get a full vial... -
Wait is this confirmed? Because it's a bit dofferent given killers task is more difficult, they can't keep add ons, and they have to stay the whole game. That's always seemed to be the way their logic worked.. are you telling me they screwed this whole event?TheBean said:Not sure if someone said this or not... Didn't read all the responses.
Once you fill your vial you don't gain anymore bonus points for hooking survivors on event hooks.
So once you fill all your vials... Will you still be able to fill vials?.. I don't think so. So you won't be able to get any more bonus points for hooking on event hooks once you fill all 30.
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Don't even bother on console to get those awesome looking blight costumes.... the extra graphics make those frames drop like ######### out of an airplane lavatoryWell_Placed_HexTotem said:They destroy the frame rate of killers, some more than others, and some maps are worse than others. Doctor has frame rate issues already. Throw on 360 using survivors and good freaking luck.
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I sort of agree with giving skillchecks to disarm bear traps. Seeing as traps are already mostly an inconvenience, having to use skill to actually disarm them would make up nicely for the fact he wastes so much time setting up traps and grabbing them in the first place. It be an interesting add on, at least
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I wouldn't want anyone on PC to suffer the frame drops I've suffered on console lately. If a doctor has that new blight outfit on, you may as well DC
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I mean, what killer main advocates for 5 hook states? As if the survivor side isn't bloated enough already, now we have to give then 5 chancies? Something fishy about this one..
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Fabyoulust said:
you did not obviously read a word i wrote so i stopped reading 3 lines into yours. I main killer. I don't like playing survivor to begin with and forcing me to when the killers are being try hards is not fun. Please read before you spout next time
No I read it all. I don't care if you call yourself a survivor or killer main, you're complaining about the survivor side of this event. I'm a killer main too, it's VERY easy and way less stressful to do the survivor side. The scrub part applies to you more than anything. -
Are you serious? You are legitimately acting like this isn't the first balanced event. You kniw what happened most other events? Killers got cucked by survivors, over and over. Body blocking event hooks, saboing event hooks, tricking the killer to farm with them then after getting theirs, running away from event hook areas.shyguyy said:I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?
It isn't so much the fact I think the way they handeled the BP for this event is fair, I don't think it's that fair. I think it's dumb you stop interacting once you have all 30, as if survivor side isn't meager enough in return. But the thing is, survivors are crying like they just lost their first born child to this event. The level of whine over matter here is gross. Most survivors aren't even bothering with the offering on ps4 which is really annoying. Just enjoy it and shut up or don't, it has almost no bearing on most games from what I've played, aside from the ones everyone wants to farm in. -
Some of you survivors are really pathetic. We've veen playing the same work on gens, loop the killer game for a couple years now, and as soon as they add an OPTIONAL side story quest, you guys all come out the woodwork crying about it. I don't get it, you guys are the first to complain about how boring doing gens is, you sit there and tell killers "oh, don't add more time to gens, it doesn't matter if alot of games end too quickly and the death timer to gen time is obviously off and allows for far to few mistakes on killer side and far to many on survivor. Just give us a side objective or something"
Then you get your ######### wish, which again is optional and seasonal, rewards you with a great deal of BP for the time invested, can be done very efficiently in SWF, and adds another layer to the gameplay that wasn't there before. Mind you, this is a quick side objective where all you must do is find the damn thing and harvest it. It's not like the suggestion survivors sometimes make about finding pieces for gens/doing something else before gen repair, which would require much higher coordination.
And to call the event Killer sided? That's almost a sick Joke, seeing as it's much easier to farm and leave when it comes to survivor vials. You don't have to, and surviving isn't much harder if you are actually decent at survivor, but alot of survivors are scrubs by nature. They're the scrubs that lose to spam characters. They lack skill and don't want to take the time to develope it, then have the nerve to tell others they aren't good at killer and that they don't play with skill because they won't play by their made up rules..
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This just shows why this game can never be trully balanced. Survivors immediately cry when they have to do anything besides work on gens and bully killers.
I mean, you give them 4000 BP for doing a 30 second action, and they STILL complain. Not to mention surviving AND getting these things is still easy, nevermind piping, as long as you can actually juke and lose people -
I'm not playing any drinking game that uses smeets apple vodka. Why don't we just drink smirnov ice or sio some wine?
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If you've really played every event since console release, you know that's not how events work. They don't deactivate in the middle of an event, or make it so only one side can still earn bonus BP for the event. The Bonus BP is to ensure everyone gets a fair shot at reaching the objective, plus events have ALWAYS given bonus BP until the whole event is over. This event still has a whole nother week. So you are talking out if your ass and are to prideful to know when to shut up. You'll do well here on the forum.BearTrapSnap said:
Do offerings for previous events still work? Do the darkest moonlight bouquets still work? No, because they're expired and broken. This event is to earn skins. Bonus BP is just that, a bonus.Mc_Harty said:@BearTrapSnap said:
Every other event in DBD gens are still the objective. Suddenly it's a secondary objective and everyone loses their minds. But what about muh offerings! How is it any different from any other offering being counteracted by another or not coming into play during the match?Life isn't fair. Get over it. If you get two skins out of it you've earned your piece. Collect useless offerings at your own detriment.
Again, I'm not complaining about not collecting skins. Whats the point for me using an offering I can't even use?
Can't use them for blood points, that requires another player. Can't even participate in the secondary objective since your blocked once you hit the max. Can't even use them as a killer because the lobbies are #########.
Every other offering works. The ones that don't always works are maps and that's only if someone else puts another map offering down. Even then the offerings work since it'll be based around those maps the players selected.
Stop acting so offended people actually see flaws with this event and take off those blinders.
I'm not affected by this so its perfectly fine.
Dumbass
Do I think you should still be able to fill your vial but not get more serum after 30? Yes.
But I can just say that, and have a difference of opinion without attacking an individual and just their ideas. Keep it up, call me some more names. It really reinforces your point and makes it seem like you're much smarter than everyone else here. Going to go play now, you have fun on here. -
I'm just about done woth DBD myself. Ive been playing since just about the game's start on ps4, and I've had a lot of fun times in between all the mess I've had to deal with. This game sometimes takes a LOT to even enjoy it, and rabking up is almost a punishment for killer, not becuase it's difficult to 4k or pip, but because alot of killer play is unrewarding and just aggravating to deal with. Most games arent even fun until you eliminate 1-2 survivors, because before that point it's all about dealing with the pressure of the situation. You have to take early control of the game, which is very out of your control most of the time so everything you do is basically playing catch up if you don't kill someone before hex ruin is destroyed (or one gen is done, if you believe you're so good you just don't need hex ruin) Add to that the fact that survivor play is so much more rewarding so immediately and that SWF is so appealing, and you actually feel like a contracted employee who paid for the right to entertain others.
I mean look at the spirit's design? Her power is made to be as useless as possible for anything that a killer would actually want. It isn't good for chases, it might even make you lose a few, her passive phasing doesn't even indicate to the killer when it activates (why is there an ultra rare pretaining to something no killer main could use effectively because they never know when they can use it?!) She has a cooldown on a power necessary to her mobility, and she indicates loudly when she's approaching survivors with stealth!! Who TF was so foolish on the dev team they actually thought a killer that can mindgame themselves silly was a great idea? Again this is removed from the fact of whether I kill or pip with her because although she has my highest entity dipleased ratings of all killers, I can still often get kills from careless survivors who are more concerned with interacting with me than winning.
This game is mostly aggravation now. I hardly have fun, satisfying games with it anymore, and it is sad because it's a game I've always dreamed about having one day in the future. An assymetrical horro game has so many possibilities. But playing as killer, I geel like more of an inconvienience to survivors than an actual threat and pressence on the map.
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Dreamnomad said:
Wow, that is a wall of text. I'm not going to lie, I didn't read all of it. You do have a decent point about how easy it is for survivors to stop a generators regression. Personally, I think when the killer kicks the gen, it should damage the generator by like 3% or something to help discourage gen tapping during a chase.
As far as killers being bullied goes, honestly it just takes more experience to make the survivors respect you. If you start slaughtering them, they won't pull that kind of crap. Here is a basic strategy that works well on most killers, but newbies just don't do.
Don't try to fight survivors over the whole map. Choose about 1/3 of the map as your territory. Preferably where ever the generators are concentrated the thickest. If a survivor tries to run outside your zone, just let them go. I know it's hard as a new killer. You're like a dog with a bone. If you see the bone, why not chew it? Right? Here is why the strategy works. Eventually, all the good pallets in your zone will be destroyed.
Who cares if there are 20 intact pallets on the map if you never intend to chase survivors near them? Who cares if 3 gens are done if all the remaining generators are close together and easy to patrol? Who cares if a survivor gets away from you if they have to come near you to work on gens eventually? This works especially well when you pair it with perks that slow generator repair such as pop goes the weasel and overcharge. Like I said, it works on most killers. Though this kind of strategy works especially well with zone control killers such as Trapper, Hag, and Doctor. Give that a try and let me know how it goes.
This literally doesn't work for half the killers at high ranks, smart survivors who know the game will have someone loop you while they complete one of the too close gens, evwn if it costs them a hook or two. If you had done this and it is working, not only did you risk way too much only to defend the final gens, but if you aren't doctor or a trap based character, there is only so much you can do to ensure one of the close gens won't pop anyway, and 9/10 times the survivors will simply wait for you to leave the area and go searching for them so some can sneak back (especially SWF). Now if you add slugging to this strat, it can work, especially of you use pop goes the weasle, over charge, unnerving, and butcher. You may not get everyone, but you won't lose a pip -
I just wish they never chanhed the damn killer cube. The emble. System worjs better for survivors than the previous system, but it ahould have ONLY been for survivors tbh. If they made tje amount of points you get based on how long you wait to unhook and have survivors "Bait" points based on killers camping you on the hook and increasing tremendously when camped into and while in struggle phase, it could have been fine.
It's not like if a killer wants to camp at this point there's anything you can do about it anyway, but this would reward looking for that opportunity eventually to unhook, while not penalizing the camped survivor OR the killer past the fact he loses map pressence and potential kills, which again, now means something again because the pips to rank up are based on kills and nothing else.
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For some reason I think we've played against one another. Every time I see that name I think to myself that's so familiar. What rank are you on survivoe?ShrimpTwiggs said:I play on PS4 as well. The frame rate is a bigger threat than the killer.
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Lmao just because this comment is gold!Dreamnomad said:Yeah... I think I'll just do whatever I want. But have fun with whatever this is.
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Can't say I didn't see it coming, bit I will say he seemed fairly mature compared to some other feng ming avatars
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DarkWo1f997 said:
It’s fine. Not like the forums have been used for good in the last 6 months anyways. It’s just fighting now. The mods turn a blind eye to toxicity, not saying I’m trying to be toxic, all I am doing is providing an example of someone being an #########, never said to raid them or anything. Just showing the very unnoticed issue that discourages everyone from playing killer.Dr_doom_j2 said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't really disagree with you. But don't get banned or warned, I'm pretty sure theres going to be at least one person whose going to say something to a mod. It might be ^ this guy above meDarkWo1f997 said:
If a streamer is willing to be toxic like that on stream, and message me, she deserves everything she gets.Dr_doom_j2 said:.. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now?
Amen. Tbh I haven't seen toxicity that bad in a good couple of months, you should consider yourself lucky to still get some hilarious salt stories 😁 -
As long as your name isn't Mrtoosm****199*, you're good in my book 👌
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Don't think I've ever seen terrortot
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What's your psn tag?
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Don't get me wrong, I don't really disagree with you. But don't get banned or warned, I'm pretty sure theres going to be at least one person whose going to say something to a mod. It might be ^ this guy above meDarkWo1f997 said:
If a streamer is willing to be toxic like that on stream, and message me, she deserves everything she gets.Dr_doom_j2 said:.. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now? -
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I'll add you and anyone down for some SWF/KYF once in a while. -
.. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now?
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As someone whose been maining killer on ps4 since the first free weekend, I wanted to say a few words about my experience.
First, I will say PS4 was actually QUITE a toxic community in this game for a bit, at least towards killers. I've had times where survivors who lost would start a message group harrasing me with their buddies, then after I blocked everyone in that group, they have another friend who wasn't even in the game put me in another one, continuing for weeks at a time. Overall at this point in the community lifetime, It is much less toxic than it was, say 6 months ago.
As far as frame rate difficulties go, I agree, they affect doctor the worst, tbh the crame rate issues never hindered me too much as a killer, and I win the Majority of my games. I do have to disagree with the hag. Comment as well, I've played great teams in both rank matches and KYF, it is possible to get almost instant hits from teleport. But I'd say using the jerk of the camera angle is more important than ever for those times when the ITH isn't possible.
Altogether though, absolutely disagree with hag even being mid tier on console, The results I've gotten with her at high ranks are almost unbeliveable at times. Again, I think it's a matter of how well you set traps, and I also think it's best to get M and A on her, because mind games WITH traps are alot more effective as well.
Also nurse is more difficult I think, but she can still dominate like she does on PC, same goes for Huntress. I had a random match against Marth88 a few months ago, and let me say he didnt seem that bothered by the switchover -
DeadByFlashlight said:
@Global said:
wh-wh-wh-what...nurse isnt tier 1....WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?Must be a console player
She is harder to play on consoke, but to say she isn't top teir when you've already mastered her? I could put them against a rank 1 nurse player right now that pkays both pc an ps4, he'd probably 4k before 2 gens are done. Nurse is definiteky harder on console, but she is NOT impossible. Neither is huntress, and I suck with her. I can still secure victory at rank 1 with her. -
How dare yp force the game to slow down by making survivors hunt down totems!
One day I fear they will rework noed again so it's "more fun" by making it obvious that it's in play from the begining somehow... maybe make it like TOTH where all totems are lit up and once they're all broken noed won't activate. That would be more fun for everyone, right?
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pauloandrade22 said:
Yeah. Id say its even killer sided . Well at least for me. Killer is a lot easier there you see?Dr_doom_j2 said: UIpauloandrade22 said:@Nickenzie said:
@Lowbei, rank 1 is way too easy! It's more difficult to reach rank 1 as a killer but overall, it's just so easy in general! I have a few suggestions on how to make Dead by Daylight a actual competitive horror game!Make killers stronger: Every killer should be at least Billy's level in strength or nurse's level if the killer takes tremendous skill to play. Now survivors will have to hide from the killer and rank will be important again since you can't screw up against a killer.
Discourage escaping and encourage Piping: Every survivor should understand that if they don't work as a team or if one person isn't playing at least 50% optimistic, they'll need to accept that they will get sacrificed and go for a pip.
Make it like indentity V 's ranking system.
Now that is an actually balanced and competitive asymetrical game.
Almost everyone knows that game is completely survivor sided. Balanced?
The killers have awesome abilities, I'll say thay much. But I'd say the only way killers are good is when you have one teamate on the squad thay can't pull their weight. I stopped playing around the time the killer after the geisha cane out because jungle gyms are just too ######### strong, especially on that damn chapel level. Hated that pos since it was released -
And because they don't want to give us an honest look into how valuable add ons are in general. If you knew, for instance, that freddy's rare dress add on only reduces the chances of waking up by 3%, you might stop going for it in the bloodweb and thereby screw up the BP economy in favor of the players by way of knowing how and what add ons are worth buying at all.Spiritbx said:Could be anything. Bhvr refuses to just have an option to add real numbers like diablo 3 has.
Probably because they would mess that up too... like the LF addons that did nothing for a long time. -
Lowbei said:i smell survivor entitlement in here.
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Evil incarnate is almost impossible to do at this point because someone inevitably DC's on purpose when they notice what you are doing. Even rank 15's (or better yet, especially rank 15's) won't let that happen anymore. It was easier to get the hags devour hope trophy, at least back then on Ps4 not everyone was trying to deny the killer achievements
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pauloandrade22 said:
@Nickenzie said:
@Lowbei, rank 1 is way too easy! It's more difficult to reach rank 1 as a killer but overall, it's just so easy in general! I have a few suggestions on how to make Dead by Daylight a actual competitive horror game!Make killers stronger: Every killer should be at least Billy's level in strength or nurse's level if the killer takes tremendous skill to play. Now survivors will have to hide from the killer and rank will be important again since you can't screw up against a killer.
Discourage escaping and encourage Piping: Every survivor should understand that if they don't work as a team or if one person isn't playing at least 50% optimistic, they'll need to accept that they will get sacrificed and go for a pip.
Make it like indentity V 's ranking system.
Now that is an actually balanced and competitive asymetrical game.
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powerbats said:
Smurf account confirmed and when you have to resort to insults like that it's shows your true colors.
I only insult you because you did so first, calling me a troll and a smurf acct. I mean, it isn't a great insult, it's probably the most laughable insult ever thrown at me, both in inception and practice.. But all the same, your intentions were there.
Ok, I lied. I also insulted you because there was truth to the insult. At least I won't insult you with lies, my character isn't THAT low. -
powerbats said:
@Dr_doom_j2 said:
Bats, I constantly read these forums. I always read how you type yourself in circles repeating the same things as if you have some severe lack of understanding of the topic or issues within the thread, so you speak to add your words on something that is far removed from what everyone else is talking about. It is confusing reading nost of the things you post. Now I'm not going to copy paste and play the "he said she said" game with you. I'm not even going to post the original comment in this thread that displays you coming into something for the soke purpose of adding nothing of value to the topic. I will just say you should really thi k about what you type before you post it. This is a forum, it's not a "circle jerk" as you call it.
Ok now I'm going to call you out on this one, you say that yet like the very people you agree with that do the exact same thing you accuse me of.
I've yet to see you once clal out these very same people which makes me wonder if you're not just some smurf account or just another forum troll. I point out the hypocrisy of both sides doing exactly what you're doing now.
Since you didn't notice I point out also the different ways arguments are used by both sides that might not even be about the topic on hand as you say. But if you actually paid close attention you'd see these people are speaking out of both sides of their keyboard at the same time.
In 1 thread they claim 1 thing and in another thread claim something completely contradictory and then when it's pointed out the usual insults or other derogatory stuff comes out. Then the same posters come out and circle jerk as one of the ultra biased killer mains likes to say.
Now you call me out on the circle jerk comment yet remain strangely silent about the killer main you agree with that used it before me. Why is that, did you somehow not notice that comment that was in a post you clearly saw.
Then to top this all off that makes me think troll is the fact that you didn't call out anyone else but me and @fcc2014 int his thread. There was obviously lots of other posters on both sides you could've had the same complaints about.
Oh and my comment was on topic about what's going on, you just didn't like the fact I cut through the noise and put it in frank terms. so again which smurf account do you belong to or which person are you friends with since you won't call out the 2 most obvious people trolling here on killer side.
Bats. ######### are you talking about? You are arguing semantics and posting walls of rehtoric now. I called you out fir the circle jerk comment you made because YOU are adding to the circle jerk problem. You came in here to defend the idea that slugging the 3rd survivor and chasing the fourth is a situation where DCing is "understandable" then when people started going at you for trying to play both sides of the fence while defending that idea, you started making that accusation.
I don't care about having a friend on this forum tbh. Most of the people I liked to see their comments and ideas on balance, they don't post here OR on the OG forums. Tbh I don't even know what the point of me coming on here is, because it seems like the most entitled people with the most friends win all their arguments through popularity alone. So no, I don't care abiut being part of some groupthink. I call out BS as I see it, and right now yours is being addressed. It doesn't mean I agree with everyone who disagrees with you all the time. Stop with tjis victomhood you seem soooo attached to. -
powerbats said:
@Dr_doom_j2 I've got to laugh that you'd take the koolaid of certain killer mains on here like that but given the circle jerk comments that you used. I'm not really surprised considering the poster that came behind you and said the same thing yet ignores it when his circle comes around and does what they complain about.
If you actually bother reading my comments you'll see I call out both sides and also ask for balance changes for both sides and a lot of my stuff is heavily killer sided. But if you're going to follow some of the ahem trolls on here you won't see it.
Bats, I constantly read these forums. I always read how you type yourself in circles repeating the same things as if you have some severe lack of understanding of the topic or issues within the thread, so you speak to add your words on something that is far removed from what everyone else is talking about. It is confusing reading nost of the things you post. Now I'm not going to copy paste and play the "he said she said" game with you. I'm not even going to post the original comment in this thread that displays you coming into something for the soke purpose of adding nothing of value to the topic. I will just say you should really thi k about what you type before you post it. This is a forum, it's not a "circle jerk" as you call it. -
lyric said:
But what if it’s his first hook is my point it’s dumb to not look at everything that could happenDr_doom_j2 said:lyric said:w
It would totally expose and waste the time of the other survivors who could be busy escaping because they have the gens to do and who says he doesn’t tunnel you right after because he realizes it’s afk? usually the guy who dc like that is always the ######### with d strike that goes down, misses it with 5 gens left and then everyone is screwed , you’re saying they should have a fake alive status and not let the team know which is bullshit , A bot would be better because at least it’s doing something and you don’t lose your hooks.SpaceCoconut said:Wow lyric is mad...
The killer would still have to hit and hook the survivor giving you time to hide or move to a different area.
Right now if a survivor dcs the killer gets an instant kill saving several minutes of chase and bleed time.
Isn't it technically an easy 4k if a survivor DCs anyway? This solves some inbalances with it occurring.
No one said any of that. You are projecting WAAAAAY to much. That is dumb, no one advocated for a fake survivor that struggles and acts like a real one only to confuse other survivors. What space coconut simply suggested was making it so wheb you DC you don't just teleport away to safey and deny the killer points "just because". If you hook the survivor that DC, it's instant sacrifice, meaning
A. There is one less hook on the field,
B. The killer used up time to hook that body
C. Survivors cannot just DC to protest being slugged or give other survivors the hatch, which is unfair and not what the DC button was meant for.
Two of those are dorect benefots to survivors, by the way. Also, one more thing, you know when someone DC's they have the DC icon over their avatar, right?
Dude, you completely lost it at this point? What difference would it make if that was his first hook or not? If he was going to dc, for whatever reason, he was going to dc. All this would mean is now instead of the killer immediately moving on to chase the next survivor, he has to hook and sacrifice the bidy, then go on a chase.
If he has BBQ and Chili so what? If he was playing well enough to make the guy DC, he was going to hook him and find you anyway.
What is really your point man? Please give me ONE scenario where this doesn't benefit both sides against the DC'er and protect from game abuse.. Just one. -
lyric said:w
It would totally expose and waste the time of the other survivors who could be busy escaping because they have the gens to do and who says he doesn’t tunnel you right after because he realizes it’s afk? usually the guy who dc like that is always the ######### with d strike that goes down, misses it with 5 gens left and then everyone is screwed , you’re saying they should have a fake alive status and not let the team know which is bullshit , A bot would be better because at least it’s doing something and you don’t lose your hooks.SpaceCoconut said:Wow lyric is mad...
The killer would still have to hit and hook the survivor giving you time to hide or move to a different area.
Right now if a survivor dcs the killer gets an instant kill saving several minutes of chase and bleed time.
Isn't it technically an easy 4k if a survivor DCs anyway? This solves some inbalances with it occurring.
No one said any of that. You are projecting WAAAAAY to much. That is dumb, no one advocated for a fake survivor that struggles and acts like a real one only to confuse other survivors. What space coconut simply suggested was making it so wheb you DC you don't just teleport away to safey and deny the killer points "just because". If you hook the survivor that DC, it's instant sacrifice, meaning
A. There is one less hook on the field,
B. The killer used up time to hook that body
C. Survivors cannot just DC to protest being slugged or give other survivors the hatch, which is unfair and not what the DC button was meant for.
Two of those are dorect benefots to survivors, by the way. Also, one more thing, you know when someone DC's they have the DC icon over their avatar, right?
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fcc2014 said:
@Dr_doom_j2 said:
fcc2014 said:@Dr_doom_j2 I kept getting tagged and brought back into this stupid thread because i was honest and said and meant "if you slug me and leave me on the ground i'm not waiting around i will dc and go que back up". That is how i felt and how i still feel. I'm having a little fun with it now because not much more to say but tweak the people who feel so offended by my honest reaction. I'm not sure what @powerbats did to you. I have never known that he comes and defends anything i say. I do tag him in stuff from time to time because i do believe he is fair. I don't think i tagged him and brought him to this post.
Ok, well I respect that you are honest about that, but as a killer that also plays on ps4, who sometimes uses slugging to secure a 4th kill, you have to understand that this kind of thing can kind of ruin the game for us. Not about getting a 4k all the time, but when we specifically brought deerstalker in order to secure all 4 kills and then someone instant DC's because we went to chase another survivor?
Well I can't possibly see how that is so accepted by this community when camping kills and chasing survivors off the hook are looked at as complete sins by the vast majority. It speaks to the imbalance in perception of roles. Killers are EXPECTED to be better than the survivors, and that isn't just within the mechanics of the game.
I play killer also and hate when they dc and i lose a stack BBQ here is the difference. I don't slug the next to last person to go find the 4th. I hook them and if the 4th gets the hatch i don't care. If you look i also said when the killer is using a legit strategy Knockout and or 3rd seal that is something different. The killers job is too kill camp, tunnel whatever, slugging is also part of that. I can accept all 3 my point for the last time is i am slugged down and you refuse to hook me and go looking for the final person that is fine. I am not waiting around. I see how you see this a ruining the game but you get the quitter bonus. You have your chance to hook me so hook me.
Ok, well you've gotten my point and I've understood yours. I just wont ever see it as anything but poor sportsmanship, but that won't matter to you, and I don't have anything against you personally. So this back and fourth is done. My final peace is to say that I respect all in game mechanics to be used as they are intended to be. Nothing more, nothing less. -
fcc2014 said:
@Dr_doom_j2 I kept getting tagged and brought back into this stupid thread because i was honest and said and meant "if you slug me and leave me on the ground i'm not waiting around i will dc and go que back up". That is how i felt and how i still feel. I'm having a little fun with it now because not much more to say but tweak the people who feel so offended by my honest reaction. I'm not sure what @powerbats did to you. I have never known that he comes and defends anything i say. I do tag him in stuff from time to time because i do believe he is fair. I don't think i tagged him and brought him to this post.
Ok, well I respect that you are honest about that, but as a killer that also plays on ps4, who sometimes uses slugging to secure a 4th kill, you have to understand that this kind of thing can kind of ruin the game for us. Not about getting a 4k all the time, but when we specifically brought deerstalker in order to secure all 4 kills and then someone instant DC's because we went to chase another survivor?
Well I can't possibly see how that is so accepted by this community when camping kills and chasing survivors off the hook are looked at as complete sins by the vast majority. It speaks to the imbalance in perception of roles. Killers are EXPECTED to be better than the survivors, and that isn't just within the mechanics of the game.
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SpaceCoconut said:What if instead of "dying" they were left alive as if the player was afk?
Other survivors could heal and rescue the afk survivor for points, dc'ing wouldn't trigger the hatch prematurely/artificially, Evil Incarnate wouldn't be so difficult, and the killer could continue on as normal.
I don't know what could work for a killer DC since they're hosting though..
Thoughts?
Great idea.... absolutely no upvotes. You know this forun isn't about #########. Most Survivors and killers just want what they want, they don't care about balance.
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NoxiousOnnyyxx said:
Its honestly the funniest thing. LOLS like why are you making it easy for us to get out of the dream state? I have a feeling that they are going to nerf that where it takes longer for us to get someone out of the dream state as well as the traps.....
If you think that's the case, that they would just do those things without any warning for killers, you must not have been around long -
NoxiousOnnyyxx said:
I wish I was cool and knew how to post gif and pics like that. I probably shouldn't know how to do that though....They can't outsmart your quick wit. They can try, but they will never figure you out lols. @fcc2014
Fcc your #########'s gone to far. You are ridiculous now, inviting your echo chamber to derail topics and all that. You were really cool at o e point when these forums started, but now it's just bias under the guise of trolling.
Whether or not you choose to DC is your business. It's unfair to others, and I used to think you were the type to see bith sides, but you, senzu, and to a degree Vietfox (although tbh, he seems to be the most level headed some times at least) have just become such trolls it's nkt even funny. The best part is you all started doing it after Lowbei who was sole leading forum troll. Bet you felt betrayed when you realised he was only trolling and actually cared about both sides, right?
@powerbats, why did you even come in here to say what you said? Stop following these goofball survivor biased players. I only see you coming in to forums defending any asinine thing FCC says, even when it puts you in a position where you aren't even really adressing the same topic as OP. Stop justifying BS in order to maintain some false sense of kinship and play bipartisan. And stop acting like everyone is attacking you, that is so effete and moraless of you, especially when you do the same things you accuse others of doing. -
Literally all i see happening is survivors in the future upset about killers "tunneling the injured survivor".
Will be fun to run thana and sloppy though. That will probably be the slow progress meta now, which weneed because more and more ruin is becoming a big joke, everyone plows through now.