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Rather than a buff to Freddy's power, I'd like to see a rework of it. He's extremely weak yes, but also very annoying to face.
A good rework that makes him powerful and fun to face is top priority in my opinion. Same with DS and all of it's friends and family being dragged out into the street and executed xD. -
Nah.
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Instead of 25% repair penalty, they ought to balance gen speeds. Nobody likes sitting at a gen hashing out easy skillchecks one after another, so just add extra objectives to it. Make survivors find parts to start repairing, and make them have to flip breakers for the power to reach the gates.
That to me would be so much better than just increasing the time it takes to complete a fairly boring action.
As for totems, they need to find better spots to hide them in general. The thing that sucks however, is that survivors will just relearn where the spawn points are. Maybe have a weaker passive TOTH effect, where it only notifies you if the totem is being cleansed. Perhaps a little QoL change for hexes could include a little timer over the icon of the hex that's being cleansed. -
I don't think the hatch needs removed. A rework is needed, and the devs' idea for it isn't half bad.
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The counter to Billy:
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Buff Leatherface. He needs it for sure
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Consider it done
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Ello, am I too late to join this party?
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Enduring is the soft (emphasis on soft) counter to DS. Decisive shouldn't even be in the game, given how fast gens get rushed.
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There already is a perk for that.
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Tbh I haven't really noticed the difference. I haven't reached bloodlust 3 at all while playing today.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you'll just have to get over it. Get better at juking so that you don't get caught in the first place.
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It wouldn' even be that big of a buff. Why are you bothered by it?Usui said:Oh look already asking for buffs.
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Love facing Hillbilly, Wraith, Doctor, and Clown. I would say Spirit but I've only faced her once and she reallllly enjoyed trolling people. -
That's true. I wish it was able to be implemented in a way that isn't abusable. The Hedge is one of my favorite tracks from Halloween.Ihatelife said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Ihatelife said:I mean about this track, when Mikey was stalking the survivor.....such a good track was removed cause it gives a advantages for the survivors...
I have solution for that: Only Mikey can hear this sound track, when he is about to stalking

They should make it so that all survivors hear it, not just the survivor being stalked. This would make survivors hella paranoid.
I consider that, but SWF could be abusing that, by telling everyone about that Michael is stalking someone.
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They should make it so that all survivors hear it, not just the survivor being stalked. This would make survivors hella paranoid.Ihatelife said: -
No. You just need to git gud and learn how to face her.
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That's like saying no exhaustion perks should be able to be activated in 20 meters of the killer.
Getting camped sucks, particularly if they have Insidious. But you can still work around it if you play it smart. -
Nope. The only possible ways to get more than 32k is to use an offering and/or BBQ/WGLF.Nightmare247 said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Thats not what he means. He's talking about how perks like Distressing and No-one Left Behind only boost your BP IN-game. Meaning you still only max a certain category at 8000 BP.
This also includes BP boosting add-ons for killers that basically nerf their powers. Trapper's Padded Jaws, Wraith's new add-on, Billy/Leatherface Speed Limiter, etc. Those don't boost your overall score at the end of the match, they only help boost how quickly you earn the points.
TLDR;
These add-ons should boost your BP post trial as opposed to in-game, because they're completely useless as of right now.
I could be wrong, but I thought that number was just a generic number. I thought they had lifted the category number past 8K a few months or almost a year ago, but just kept it at 8K for showing purposes.
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Thats not what he means. He's talking about how perks like Distressing and No-one Left Behind only boost your BP IN-game. Meaning you still only max a certain category at 8000 BP.Nightmare247 said:You do realize that they do apply after the trial/match is over right?
BBQ - Posting:
A deep bond with The Entity unlocks potential in one's Aura reading ability. After hooking a Survivor, all other Survivors' Auras are revealed to you for 4 seconds when they are further than 52/46/40 metres from the Hook .
Each time a Survivor is hooked for the first time, gain a 15/20/25 % stackable Bonus to all Bloodpoint gains.
The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.Here is the survivors We're gonna live forever:
Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50 %.
The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.
Both very clearly state Post Trial. So where are you having issues?
This also includes BP boosting add-ons for killers that basically nerf their powers. Trapper's Padded Jaws, Wraith's new add-on, Billy/Leatherface Speed Limiter, etc. Those don't boost your overall score at the end of the match, they only help boost how quickly you earn the points.
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These add-ons should boost your BP post trial as opposed to in-game, because they're completely useless as of right now. -
There's gonna be some spicy new meme builds coming. Time to experiment
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Aw damn, that got taken out? I haven't been able to play yet due to the servers being messed up.
I was really looking forward to scaring and getting scared myself ;-; -
If this were to happen, I'd be bringing Third Seal, Knockout, Deerstalker, and Ruin every game.
I just don't see that much of an issue with hook numbers th, the only issue is WHERE some of them are placed. I've had hooks bunched up in the corners of the map with little to none anywhere else. -
Not bad, man.
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Because if it denies the killer their extra 175 points, they'll do it.
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Thanks for giving me a reason to commit seppuku.
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Both are just as guilty as the next one. If both commit to the standoff, that's their choice. I like to mindgame the hatch as both survivor and killer.
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I've looped killers at the cabin on Red Forest countless times. I can do it until all 5 gens pop without using a single pallet.jakeb_1993 said:At since this forum is 98% killer, this is going to hurt you alot.
There is no such thing as looping or an infinite loop. It is mathematically impossible. Let me break down nice and easy for you:
Lets say that a survivor has a base speed of 'n'
Since killers are faster we will say that the killers speed is 'n+1'
Given that they are both running around the same obstacle the length of 'l' is the same for both killers and survivors.
Since they both cover the same ground 'n+1=l' occurs before 'n=l'
This doesn't even begin to cover bloodlust which adds 'an extra +1 to speed for all three tiers resulting in +4'
So what about Windows?
Since survivors rarely go through the vaults at full speed and the fact hat killers can lunge attack through the vaults then looping is impossible. Either one of two things will happen: the survivor gets hit and then sprints away or the survivor successful vaults and the attack misses (Rarely happens due to broken hit boxes and whatnot but that's another argument for another day).
Plus if a survivor really wants to 'loop' a window then they can only loop twice before getting shut off. So again. Not a valid argument.
So onto Pallets:
Pallets disrupt 'l' to slow the killer down.and yes, technically it is possible to run around and cause a semi-permaent loop. I say semi cause here is the thing: You can break pallets. Shock horror. So looping around pallets for 'infinite' is impossible.
Please just stop getting salty over the fact that you keep losing mind games to survivors. If you keep running in one direction you will catch them or they will break the loop. Simples. Not hard. I break them all the time. I would say 'Git Gud' like you say to everyone else on here, but tbh I think for you salty lot on these forums 'good' is a bit of a stretch of your abilities.
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She's being powered by the Entity. Also, if a survivor Sprint Bursts before you start the dash, 9 times out of 10 you'll still miss it.jiminie said:Ain't her dash speed already faster than Sprint Burst ? Like it's 160% already, 10% faster than SB
Also, her crouch is fine as it is, 100% would mean she could keep up with running Survivors with no problem at all, might have no relevance, but she's still Human, there is no way she's crouching as fast as running Survivors -
Why are you getting so triggered over it? All I'm doing is telling you that when I've done it, it does absolutely nothing.jiminie said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
jiminie said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
jiminie said:
@Tsulan said: kingreaps said:
Tsulan said: He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast? Does the rapper have anything to slow you down mid-chase and instantly catch you? Yes, traps. kingreaps said: Tsulan said: He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast? And theres also ways to counter the trapper no way to counter the gass Just don't run through his gas. He has a really limited amount of bottles. jiminie said: He's not that fast, just kids exploiting his whisky bottle
Oh wow, using a killers ability is exploiting now... I thought you're better than this, are you goin' to tell me you don't know about his precious bottle exploit ?
I tested it. It doesn't do anything. Nice try though.
Can you stop being a Hypocrite? Last night i had a match with this kind of person, exploiting it like hell, look it up, i'm not making anything up
Do you even know what the word hypocrite means? At what point was I being hypocritical?
I've done the clown dance to meme with with the last survivor before I gave them the hatch, there's literally no discernible difference.
'I tested it.It doesen't do anything' oh my god, are you for real ?
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Change Myers stalk ability so that while he's stalking, that's literally all he's doing. You only hold M2 to moonwalk. Remove Tier 2 and 3 and give him a 40 meter TR so you can hear if he's breathing like a neckbeard behind a bush.CoolAKn said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Can we pls buff Decisive to mori the killer on use? Or maybe give the killer the option to mori himself after being DStruck.You never see them remove the piece of wood/glass. So why can't they just take it and slit their own throat?
While we're at it, can we make the Nurse where when she Blinks, she doesn't teleport, but just closes her eyes for half a second?
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Do you even know what the word hypocrite means? At what point was I being hypocritical?jiminie said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
jiminie said:@Tsulan said:
kingreaps said:
Tsulan said: He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast? Does the rapper have anything to slow you down mid-chase and instantly catch you? Yes, traps. kingreaps said: Tsulan said: He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast? And theres also ways to counter the trapper no way to counter the gass Just don't run through his gas. He has a really limited amount of bottles. jiminie said: He's not that fast, just kids exploiting his whisky bottle
Oh wow, using a killers ability is exploiting now...
I thought you're better than this, are you goin' to tell me you don't know about his precious bottle exploit ?
I tested it. It doesn't do anything. Nice try though.
Can you stop being a Hypocrite? Last night i had a match with this kind of person, exploiting it like hell, look it up, i'm not making anything up
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I tested it. It doesn't do anything. Nice try though.jiminie said:@Tsulan said:
kingreaps said:
Tsulan said:He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast?
Does the rapper have anything to slow you down mid-chase and instantly catch you?
Yes, traps.
kingreaps said:
Tsulan said:He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast?
And theres also ways to counter the trapper no way to counter the gass
Just don't run through his gas. He has a really limited amount of bottles.
jiminie said:He's not that fast, just kids exploiting his whisky bottle
Oh wow, using a killers ability is exploiting now...
I thought you're better than this, are you goin' to tell me you don't know about his precious bottle exploit ?
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Totally agree. Fat bois shouldn't be outrunning athletes. Get that man a banana and a protein shake.
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Nice ideas again, man! Only thing is, 175% might be a tad too fast. 170% would be good though

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Can't believe how OP Freddy is. Can we please remove the fingerknives for fingerdildos instead?
And what's this bullshit Wraith guy? He can like, cloak himself. Nuh- uh. Remove that. In fact, nerf his ability to walk. Nobody could realistically stand on those chicken legs.
Don't get me started on that fat boi Leatherdaddy. You mean to tell me he can CHAINSAW me? HELL no! Remove that ######### and give him a piece of celery or something. -
Can we change the tombstones so Myers helps survivors climb out of the gates? Anything else but that is OP.
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Can we pls buff Decisive to mori the killer on use? Or maybe give the killer the option to mori himself after being DStruck.
You never see them remove the piece of wood/glass. So why can't they just take it and slit their own throat? -
That's actually a decent idea. I've had plenty of people join my killer matches with 800 ping and decide to bring their Nurse powers in. I always have to close that lobby and lose the survivors with 50-60 ping because of that.Tsulan said:Guys, guys, please stop!
OP is right. The killer should have a way to at least initiate a vote kick. Where 2 survivors have to click yes in order to kick that particular survivor.
Why? Because more often than not, I dodge lobbies with abysmal pings. Because someone from the other end of the world thinks it's a good idea to click ready on a 500+ ping.
Being able to kick that survivor would give the other players a faster match. Since they don't have to rematch
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For Myers on a KYF, I would sayToxicTapp said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Really anything. KYF isn't exactly competitive, at least not to me and my friends.What killer do you main?
Myers but I'm trying to get build for everyone since I'm equally good with them. We are playing super toxic.
STBFL
BBQ
M&A
NOED
If you wanna troll your friends, run
Devour Hope
Ruin
M&A
Knock Out
Survivor:
Self Care
Dead Hard
Urban
Leader
My build for Hag (if you ever decide to use her)
Ruin
Pop Goes the Weasel
Deerstalker
Sloppy Butcher/Remember Me
For Clown I use
Ruin
Enduring/Brutal Strength
Pop Goes the Weasel/Remember Me
Deerstalker
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Sometimes camping is necessary, like when survivors swarm hooks or the exit gates are open. The only time camping is a real issue is when they camp to grief.powerbats said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Rather than rush gens to punish the camper, these survivors would rather the devs punish the campers. To them, its much easier to pawn the problem onto someone else than it is to adapt.
The issue is that camping is way too profitable for the killer, even highly experienced killers will camp when it's a good map for them. You also have an issue with newer players not understanding the best way to counter it is to gen rush.
I equate camping with training wheels the same as killers do for DS, you'll never get good unless you learn how to play. That's why ranks 1-5 get people who play like level 20 on both sides because they keep the training wheels on.
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And on a serious note, I didn't get to play the PTB, so I have no clue how powerful the Spirit actually is. I for the most part, hear she sucks which disappoints me.
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But but but Freddy is EZPZ mode! He has free wallhacks! He can see me beating off in the corner after 3 gens just simultaneously popped with Ruin still active after he put me to sleep for the first time! Remove Dreamworld! Replace fingerknives with fingerdildos!TheDarkLycan said:i enjoy the lack of the DLC, it gives me more time before freddy becomes completely useless
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If you're an entitled survivor main, then yes it is holding the game hostage.
If you're a person who has common sense, then no it is not. -
Rather than rush gens to punish the camper, these survivors would rather the devs punish the campers. To them, its much easier to pawn the problem onto someone else than it is to adapt.Nickenzie said:
Thanks for defending me, I can only do so much when my team feeds a camper and I'm the only one doing generators lol.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Nickenzie is right though, Leatherface DOES need buffs. Just because a killer can get lucky doesn't mean they're instantly top tier.SenzuDuck said:@yeet said:
SenzuDuck said:I mean, you could have walked away and started doing gens but that's just too hard, right?
Also - look at how much this leatherface struggled to wreck you all, hilarious.
I'd hardly call 3 dead at 3 gens a "struggle"
It's called sarcasm - because Nickenzie currently thinks Leatherface needs massive buffs while simultaneously getting wrecked by them
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The survivors find a way to escape the Entity while this song plays over it and in the credits
https://youtu.be/ds1xo-Hfq68
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Nickenzie is right though, Leatherface DOES need buffs. Just because a killer can get lucky doesn't mean they're instantly top tier.SenzuDuck said:@yeet said:
SenzuDuck said:I mean, you could have walked away and started doing gens but that's just too hard, right?
Also - look at how much this leatherface struggled to wreck you all, hilarious.
I'd hardly call 3 dead at 3 gens a "struggle"
It's called sarcasm - because Nickenzie currently thinks Leatherface needs massive buffs while simultaneously getting wrecked by them
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While I agree that BNP's are worthless now, they should NEVER be what they once were. That was ridiculous. The possibility of 4 gens popping 20 secs in was absolutely horrible.
50% of the gen would be just fine, so long as it took a little longer to install.
