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@TheeclumsyNinja said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061925#Comment_2061925
6 Months?.... took them 5 years to get wraith into a semi competitive state.... still waiting for trapper lol and doesnt look like they intend to do anything on him
Just give him the bag BHVR.
The trapper needs some TLC.
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@JHondo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061783#Comment_2061783
The chapter wasn't BHVRs magnum opus, they retooled their twitter to be like a musician teasing and getting ready to drop a new album, and the new survivor went by Magnum Opus as a performer before she became a producer. The Mightee One and Magnum Opus stuff on social was a way to tease Yun-Jin not the Trickster.
Yeah and they really shouldn't have.
You should never invoke words like Magnum Opus if your product isn't up to snuff.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061836#Comment_2061836
I DON'T KNOW what is setting the alarmbells off exactly. It's like... with trickster's chuckle the first association is all those bastards that will harass (and worse) women (and others) and boast about it because they KNOW they'll get away with it cause they're 'famous'
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061849#Comment_2061849
Plague I can absolutely understand, emetophobia is a genuine thing, after all. And a lot of people are seriously taken aback how much Spirit (and feng, too) are sexualized despite being made to look like minors.
There is a reason you feel this way.
They are using the same architype.
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@Moundshroud said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061399#Comment_2061399
Dropped today, we have the month to go and see where he is... :)
Don't need a month baby!
We have found the rare killer that is terrible on PAPER!
Straight to the bottom!
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
Don't expect a new one any time soon; they're in the middle of the realm beyond graphical updates, so they'll probably do renovations first, new maps later.
I have never been more convinced that if the next killer does not come with a map the player base will shrink rapidly.
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What a chapter to proclaim as their MAGNUM OPUS.
The game BHVR talked was HUGE.
Of course this was going to blow up in their face
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@CuriousGeorgeFloyd said:
Money grubbing ######### always seem to bite the hands that feed them, and then have the audacity to talk back to you. These devs are worthless. Rubbish. Evil to the core. Ask for a refund if that's possible but you might as well spend money on a lottery ticket because the chances that you'll ever get a refund is near impossible and you have a higher chance winning the lottery.
Don't need a refund if you didn't buy the chapter.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061051#Comment_2061051
Why remove it completely though? I'm sure they can fix it so it doesn't have those issues and if that means that normal chat isn't really possible for a patch or two, so what? Console hasn't had a chat feature for the entirety of its existence.
I'm saying that if BHVR has to go through with this they are better of getting rid of it then the post game chat being illegible as they would be functionally the same.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060569#Comment_2060569
That's not most people's arguments. If it was, they would mention things like "I thought this was an M rated game?"
But that doesn't matter as it's MY argument.
If you want to debate the people with that argument they are in the thread.
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@Sluzzy said:
You shouldn't say he is F tier on the first day, you haven't learned how to play him the best yet. Saying he is weak compared to huntress really means huntress is too easy to get downs.
You so want this killer to be good...
Just so you can complain later.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060849#Comment_2060849
"It's fine as is. I prefer a system to be too overbearing on release and it looks like they took the cautious route of censoring a wider array of hostile, racist, homphobic, and disgusting language. It does its job too well. I much prefer the new system since it prevents people from being vile while still allowing people to chat. They just need to refine it since it obviously isn't perfect.
But if you want it straight up removed I can't see why unless you support saying racist, homophobic, disgusting things to other people."
"Better that its too overturned rather than not enough. Besides they can adjust it from their side really easily. Straight up removing is a no deal and if you want it straight up removed you support that sort of bigotry."
Why else would someone want a chat filter gone?
Dude your poisoning of the well is so deep not a single person is going to be able to have a normal conversation with you.
Go re read my posts as I have said multiple times at this point I would want chat turned off completely.
But again all your doing is deflecting and arguing with a strawman.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060800#Comment_2060800
I'm not editing anything lol gotta drink from these waters in the first place.
Check my posts I've been consistent since I believe if you don't want the filter you <insert prerogative here>. I do think if you don't want the chat filter then something is wrong with you (the racist kind of wrong). I merely pointed out my belief that it was over tuned but doesn't need to be removed. Go through and see if I've edited anything unlike your own posts.
Reading comprehension missing...
Running script... Deflect.
Every single mention of editing has been about me editing posts.
For someone who wants everyone to read their entire post about how racist everyone else is. You certainly didn't take the time to read mine.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060773#Comment_2060773
Only need to think this way on the forums so I get convos like these with people like you. Besides its fun.
Also maybe try reading the content of my posts before being a smoothbrain
"They did say the censored word list can be adjusted and tweaked to not be overbearing but assuming as a first time rollout to live servers its better to be too overbearing rather than too little. I'm not saying it doesn't need to be adjusted but flat out removed is a no no."
Ah man you gotta wait for me to edit my post man because all you're doing all poisoning the well.
Doesn't matter if you believe "They did say the censored word list can be adjusted and tweaked to not be overbearing but assuming as a first time rollout to live servers its better to be too overbearing rather than too little. I'm not saying it doesn't need to be adjusted but flat out removed is a no no."
If you believe everyone who disagrees with you is racist.
which you do "Straight up removing is a no deal and if you want it straight up removed you support that sort of bigotry."
And you say you don't go on twitter LOL.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060693#Comment_2060693
Nah thats a cesspool I never cared about. Besides don't need to project when you want a chat filter removed which hides disgusting language.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060719#Comment_2060719
I think I said somewhere up above that its fine if its overbearing when it comes out since its better that than not doing enough. They can change it faster on their end to make sure words like Michael Myers or "this game is dumb" aren't censored.
Re read the post where I said I want chat removed entirely.
Also you should probably avoid using same exact talking points as twitter then.
I can't imagine thinking like you 24/7.
Please stop trying to poison the well the adults are talking.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060686#Comment_2060686
So you support racism, homophobia, and all the disgusting things that this filter hides?
Read the edited post.
Stop projecting and go back to twitter.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060655#Comment_2060655
It's fine as is. I prefer a system to be too overbearing on release and it looks like they took the cautious route of censoring a wider array of hostile, racist, homphobic, and disgusting language. It does its job too well. I much prefer the new system since it prevents people from being vile while still allowing people to chat. They just need to refine it since it obviously isn't perfect.
But if you want it straight up removed I can't see why unless you support saying racist, homophobic, disgusting things to other people.
Just because it's something you would do doesn't mean you should project onto others.
I would prefer chat to removed entirely.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060560#Comment_2060560
I actually have used the new system and read the comments. In my opinion if you don't want the game to be censored you support being racist and homophobic towards other players. Cheers.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060561#Comment_2060561
They did say the censored word list can be adjusted and tweaked to not be overbearing but assuming as a first time rollout to live servers its better to be too overbearing rather than too little. I'm not saying it doesn't need to be adjusted but flat out removed is a no no.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060569#Comment_2060569
Better that its too overturned rather than not enough. Besides they can adjust it from their side really easily. Straight up removing is a no deal and if you want it straight up removed you support that sort of bigotry.
Yeah, no that's not how bigotry even comes close to working.
It should be removed till it works correctly, and if chat is really this big of a problem BHVR should just remove chat entirely.
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@brokedownpalace said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060622#Comment_2060622
So you think the mods consider this thread bad enough to ban OP for but not bad enough to delete it??
It wouldn't be the first time.
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@Rizzo said:
We do not ban for negative feedback or criticism, we do punish people who break the rules, insulting is one of these.
And yes, we do delete the comments that break the rules.
Now let's stay on topic.
That fact you guys consider this thread insulting is...
Well it's telling.
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@th3 said:
Sucks people are upset about not seeing racism or homophobic/offensive messages in post game chat. Weird. Not only that but saying it’s a mature game so it doesn’t need censorship is moronic. I did not agree to the eula to see racism or rude messages. This filter is a bad thing for people who like saying that I guess. Also clearly adjustments need to be made but I’m glad this game has a filter now.
The bot is censoring words like Myers.
It's is incredibly over tuned to the point where normal conversation will be illegible.
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@spiritsLeftball said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2048382#Comment_2048382
How many matches as killer do you get a fully healed survivor doing a gen and you Down/grab them and you still get hit with DS?
Yess slugging is 100% a counter player against DS as it works!
Playing as killers with OHDs, It happens a lot.
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@Mandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2030718#Comment_2030718
As we've previously communicated we're not giving information out as to what the factors are that increases or decreased your MMR score - various factors in a match does affect it.
We want people to play as normally as possible.
So we aren't allowed to know how to get better at the game?
How are we supposed to know it's working if we don't know how it works?
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Could a mod delete this post, put the original comment in the wrong thread. Thank you
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Save your money.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2011689#Comment_2011689
Prove thyself is Meta
DS is Meta
Iron Will is Meta
Unbreakable is Meta
Dead hard is Meta
Borrowed Time is Meta
Whats most complained about. DS
Ds is self applied and makes an obsession, its why its so necessary as is because it protects you from having a terrible time in the game not because is as powerful as it is and it is good but other perks still have issues that are worse DS will be the most used. Its the same as the other day one thread picked up and it was someone complaining BBQ should be a Hex because they said it was op. That's insane to me but the reasons some players think this stuff up is because of how used it is mixed with how its good creates this illusion its better then the rest of the killer perks. The same things happening to ds because people see 4 DS lobbies and are "that was #########" but honestly DS keeps the game healthy to some extent through its use the perks that make it insane like unbreakable and abuses with its mechanics (lockers) are the only changes id make to it because i want to see it used so people dont play in a way thats unfun by default but nerfing ds and not touching these perks i think are more of an issue is mad to me.
Dude can you please think through what you are trying to say, as your paragraph is a mess of words that mean nothing.
Again you haven't countered any points your argument is just I say so therefore it is.
And seriously stop taking Sluzzy seriously they are a well troll and nobody takes anything they say seriously
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2011659#Comment_2011659
DS is overly dramatized as being this great horrible perk to play against and because of that its being put under a spotlight when there's really not massive issue with it but plenty or bigger issue in the game people are assuming that the value you get from it is so high or guaranteed but on balance its not as big an issue and their are ways around it. theres the point in that comment as its a response
Is it somethings annoying mid game yes, does it actually trump many other perks that have bigger issue. Big No so why is it under the spotlight for change. Especially when its much more important to solo q than to swfs when the biggest aims of buffs and nerfs on the survivors side should be to bridge that gap nerf swfs and buff solos
Dude Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
DS is the Meta. There is no way around it you will run into and yes it does take up too much of the killers time.
You haven't proven anyone wrong your just saying it is "being overdramatized because I don't see it as a problem."
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2011607#Comment_2011607
Yes in the grand scheme of the game you have an option to deal with a guy sitting on a gen unsafe if he just had DS slug the issue is unbreakable being able to be used with it to make this something that is just a waste of your time because survivors dont have to move off what they are doing to pickup. Toolboxes dont have that unless you want to waste a perk slot on franklins and still it can be used any time and take a long time to decay while swfs will be able to reset the toolboxes decay. Prove thyself has no indication its being used and their nothing that can be done about it. Everyone being hung up on this is the progress thats theoretically possible if
-you ignore the survivor
-they get on a gen instantly off hook
-they dont heal so its easier to snowball
-you dont slug past the minuet
I have read your post multiple times and have no idea what point you are even trying to make.
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@tippy2k2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2009353#Comment_2009353
Yeah, I 100% agree that I don't think this was done on purpose at all (if it was, I think even EA would look at it and go "Holy ######### dude, we're evil but that's EVIL evil). But the bottom line is that at this point in the games cycle, at least in my experience, what you stated above is 100% how the game plays right now. Whether designed deliberately or not, that is the reality that this game currently lives in.
If it wasn't intentional at first it is now.
Remember during the Q&A where the animations were changed and BHVR made sure to put into the presentation that you can still teabag using the new animations even showing video of it, and then proceeded to give stats about teabagging while saying that "people don't run into it as often as they think" (I'm paraphrasing here).
@dezzmont hit the nail on the head, worryingly so.
And to BHVR, the optics on that are incredibly bad as either you guys are oblivious, or you guys are intentionally winking at the toxic part of the fanbase.
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@Deadman316 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2009565#Comment_2009565
Sigh...do I really need to go into depth about why your post is silly?
-Killers have Ebony Mori
-Survivor is about to run to hatch, but killer closes it
-some killer add-ons let you see the auras of survivors.
See what I did there? Stop acting like killers don't have their own advantages to them.
Sigh...do I really need to go into depth about why your post is silly?
-Mori's have been nerfed.
-But they have a key so they can open it immediately after a killer shuts it.
-Not all killers have that ability which you admit.
See what I did there? Stop acting as if keys are balanced.
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@TheClownIsKing said:
You’re getting FREE content, and ADDITIONAL BP from challenges.
Don’t be greedy.
Man you really are stepping it up to Sluzzy levels now.
The only greedy people here are BHVR.
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@Zozzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008745#Comment_2008745
huntress is next.
Nah.. they've been hinting at The Pig being next.
To the topic at hand I don't play Billy much but man is his limp the stuff of motion sickness legends.
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@Hex_Salt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2007200#Comment_2007200
But as I said if you kept DC'ing how would you get better at it? It's like anything in life, any game you can only get better at it by playing it. Running away from it isn't going to help ans as I sajd it ruins it for everyone else. And that 5 minute penalty multiplies if it happens multiple times in a day. Midwich is amazing for most killers, its unbalanced in their favour and please bear in mind I'm a killer main and I'm saying this.
Chasing someone down a narrow corridor as bubba = chainsaw
M1 killer - very few safe pallets
M1 killer - very few windows. With pallets broken a lot of dead zones
Corridors and rooms - bounce for blight
Double floor - doctors shock will get you
Pyramid Head - King on this map
Freddy - try dodging his snares when asleep the map is so narrow
Spirit- tracks easy to follow
Clown- again narrow map easy bottle throws
Etc etc etc
And yes some killers struggle but most excel.
I think it speaks more about the attitude and desire to improve of those who DC rather than the map itself.
It's not FUN as Killer either because the map is just 2 corridors, less RNG then any other map in the game, and only 2 ways up to the top floor. They literally took a map designed for a single player horror experience and directly translated it.
It doesn't work and is a chore to kill on even if killers are good on it.
It doesn't matter how well killers do on a map if the killer didn't have FUN.
Also, If you haven't played on Midwich against an OoO pray you never will.
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@Hex_Salt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2007169#Comment_2007169
Introducing DC penalty was good as well for this. As I said if they don't like the fact they get a map they don't like them stop playing the game its obviously not for them. Its unbalanced for survivor but how are you supposed to get better? Play on Haddonfield or Coldwind every time because they favour survivors?
And as I previously said they are ruining other peoples fun as well.
Honestly of people get so easily triggered by a map then they really shouldn't play
Dude I hate to be that guy but, it speaks more about the map that it is still common to see DC's on Midwich.
This means that people would rather eat the 5 minutes then play the 15 minute game to it's conclusion on that map, And this is really the only map it happens on.
I personally will contemplate it as I haven't had fun on that map once (either side) and if a map offering is seen you know I'm force closing DBD before loading.
This thread is really just an indictment on Midwich and it's poor design more then anything.
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@Hex_Salt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2007130#Comment_2007130
If im being really honest, it's killer sided and as a lot of Killers it's a great map. Lots of unsafe pallets, long narrow corridors ,breakable walls that are more optimal if not broken, PH doctor bubba wraith and plenty more really benefit from this.
Some people DC due to certain killers. To do it because of a map???
People like that shouldnt play the game. Apart from anything else they ruin it for others and as I said to DC for a map is pathetic
Map was a big reason to DC before the penalty was introduced because why are you going to play on a map that is more like pulling teeth then you know... FUN.
Also Midwich just isn't fun to play on either side. it's got the worst of The Game and Hawkins combined for a of a miasma of boring.
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@Hex_Salt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2007118#Comment_2007118
I agree there are a lot of problems especially for survivors and im a killer main. That having been said having 3 people DC at the start of the match is quite frankly pathetic
It's not fun for either side.
Though with how little Midwich shows up this shouldn't happen very often.
I still remember loading into Midwich before the DC penalty was reinstated and it was almost always a DC speedrun.
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Midwich has been a problem since it came out.
Honestly it already needs a rework.
If I see a Midwich offering burned I will force close dbd during the loading screen.
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It's not just killers whoever has the worst ping has the advantage.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006952#Comment_2006952
They said from the start that Keys and Moris will not be nerfed in the same Patch. And they said quite recently that they dont compare Moris with Keys.
And if Keys allow multiple Survivors to escape, it is basically Endgame - this means, the Killer had a game, unlike a Survivor who got morid first Hook. From that perspective, they are indeed less problematic.
Doesn't matter if we haven't heard anything.
And we haven't.
But yeah let's not while the game is bleeding killers, and survivor queue only gets longer.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
Keys are getting nerfed. And really, why do you care about something which was out of your control anyway? No point in ranting about it.
Are they now it's been 4 months and coming up on 5 patches now.
Is this another console optimization.
Or will BHVR prove us wrong.
If I was a betting man I would say it ain't happening.
edit: if it does make it into the mid chapter for 20 it means it took them half a year to nerf keys
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If you played your main's you got people with zero hours.
If you played killers you didn't you'd get people with thousands.
Survivor was a ######### show that is comparable to what we have right now actually.
Don't get excited really temper your expectation for this new MMR.
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@Mr_K said:
It's not on though.
And BHVR have never lied/s.
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Ah I see @Sluzzy is finally advocating for making the game harder for survivors.
Man imagine the perks I could use that aren't wasted by BBQ.
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@EvanRaven said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2003422#Comment_2003422
that's actually acceptable though. i'm talking about when people do it at the start or if it's a killer they don't like, they just ragequit and screw the game for everyone else.
Yeah let BHVR take care of it when the DC ban can't tell the difference between an Intentional DC, even though they figured it out before as the game tells you with a sound cue.
This will never happen and if it does there will be a drop in players.
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@fray1919 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2003268#Comment_2003268
Every post. And I completely agree that matchmaking is broken.
This is specific to dragonhensi's rank 15 v red ranks post.
Alright so you just took an opportunity to be an ass.
FYI Just because you get kills in this game doesn't mean you take it seriously.
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@fray1919 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2002401#Comment_2002401
I'm not hearing anything that leads to me to believe they weren't horsing around and not caring if you killed them.
Not everyone takes the game as seriously as you did.
You didn't read any bit of this thread did you.
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@jester20k said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2000523#Comment_2000523
Yeah when my post starts with "either I'm a complete idiot," I'm really concerned about saving face to you, random forum troll.
Okay dude, congrats then you are "a complete idiot".
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@jester20k said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1999967#Comment_1999967
Unless I'm a complete idiot, the op deleted like half his original post. It doesn't resemble what I responded to initially lol.
No... There isn't an edited by on the OP.
you either misread it or are lying to save face.
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Please everyone stop with these threads this isn't how any of these laws work in any single country.
I hate that I can't tell if these numerous threads are bait.
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Well this game is currently bleeding killers (The Devs confirmed this in the last Q&A).
I don't think the killers that are leaving are the bad ones.
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@EvilJoshy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992455#Comment_1992455
IMO there have been many many times where we gave feedback and they ignored it. /coughNEWUIcough
I feel the PTB is not for feedback or testing. It's to hype up a new chapter and to give us a heads up. "Hey, we already put work into it. We don't care how you feel about it because this is happening whether you like it or not"
They are Public Teaser Billboards.
I find it hilarious they changed their twitter to build hype for a PTB.
Don't forget guys this is supposed to be BHVR's MAGNUM OPUS.