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Okay so why would it not be an obsession perk?
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Theres nothing wrong with nurse in the current state of the game.... when the changes that need to be fixed happen then maybe we could make suggestions ... even as nurse is now shes not OP. . When I started playing I couldn't just hop on and 4k even at rank 20... because nurse rewards the player for getting better doesn't mean she needs rework or she needs nerf
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They want people to see who has what.... this way killer can prep for what survivors have and survivors can work with each other... it's also why survivors have a chat in the beginning and end game lobby...... this idea would only set the game back a step
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I agree with this
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The salt that drips off the survivor that's hanging on the hook 😏
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When I play survivor I play solo... it's a rare moment when I SWF I do main killer..... when you make the statement "I 4k every match" it's easy to take it that way apologies... right now matchmaking is horrible... hopefully whatever the devs are cooking up will helpPoweas said:@Bravo0413 said:
@Poweas said:
What are you saying? I play on console and PC and I always get a 3-4 man (3 man being if I give the last guy hatch or if someone made it). ######### are u talking about. I play solo survivor and have a hard time.LUL "I 4k every game as killer.. no challenge at all.. survivors so hard" .... dude survivor is still so easy and boring.... survivor game play revolves around gen sim and ring around the rosy.... if you can do those 2 things your survival chances are pretty high.....
I face Nurses, Hags and Spirits. 50% of my games. It is hard. I never said killer isn't hard so dont go putting words in my mouth (it's an expression. Dont assume I'm entitled like 60% of the people who play survivor.) I play both sides equally and have a hard time with solo. Have you even seen the teams you get. It's stupid. I've had a team that died in 4 minutes to a Freddy they tried to bully. I did 2 gens, unhooked some people and got the hatch. Just play solo survivor and actually get good at it (i'm assuming you're a decent killer which u probably aren't but I'll assume it). Then come back and tell me if solo is ez and tell me all about ur teammates you get. People always assume because I say I 4k a lot that I instantly think killer is easy. .-. I know killer is harder than survivor.
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You watch.... debs are going to make this a perk because it's a bad ass idea.......surveillance though its going to get the timer buff..Dreamnomad said:I would prefer it if Surveillance made it so it would reveal the aura of survivors within 6/10/14 meters of the last regressing generator. No time limit and doesn't effect multiple generators. It would effectively turn the last generator you kicked into a surveillance camera.
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This would be sooo goodReneAensland said:Also, let it do what it's actually meant to do.
You see the White Aura of a Regressed Generator, nowhere does it specify that YOU have to regress it.
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5.)mikey
4.)Billy
3.)LF (strictly for the wobble)
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@Carpemortum said:
Dude recent devstream showed survival rate is below 50%. How is that one sided to survivors?stats are flawed..... DCs count as deaths, suicides on hooks etc..... the Halloween event may be included as well.... like theres just too many flaws that are to be considered to even think about saying that killer has the favor... the game is moving in the right direction but the devs need to stop nerfing and start implementing new stuff for survivors to do...
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@Poweas said:
What are you saying? I play on console and PC and I always get a 3-4 man (3 man being if I give the last guy hatch or if someone made it). ######### are u talking about. I play solo survivor and have a hard time.LUL "I 4k every game as killer.. no challenge at all.. survivors so hard" .... dude survivor is still so easy and boring.... survivor game play revolves around gen sim and ring around the rosy.... if you can do those 2 things your survival chances are pretty high.....
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@MisterCremaster said:
@Monstarella said:
Any other killers tired of the utter lack of balance, the poor development and overal bias this game has become.Who am I kidding, this whole Killers forum is a support group. Its nonstop "boohoo, killers are unbalanced, I'm not having fun" whine fest. I think all the killers should just stop playing until they've gotten the balance they deserve!
:O
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Surviellance is the worst killer perk but it opened the door for changes to older perks ---> tinkerer and bittermurmur for instance, both these perks can be argued to be different versions of surveillance.... the worse thing is the devs seem to not mention surveillance at all... we know surviellance is supposed to be that perk that's especially good on Pig but its.... just.... not good at all... I'd like an increase in the timer on the perk... it doesnt need a rework it just needs a increase in time to use 16 seconds.... you cant kick 3 gens 16 seconds 🙄
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These numbers are still flawed.... the devs didnt take a large portion of time when collecting the data and the event even if it was a small portion of the event is still included and survivors didnt care about escaping they just wanted the flowers.... most times they would end up killing themselves... also matchmaking is horrible (i'm excited to see what changes the team is making).. until the team addresses end game and matchmaking I dont see these numbers really amounting to much.... this isnt because killer is finally the power role (killer is in a better spot then it was a few months back) this is because of matchmaking and newer players and events hindering the stats....
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Wolf74 said:
These stats are lacking information.
When have these stats been taken? Did the time include the blight event?
Is this across all platforms? Can we get those splitted between Console and PC?
Are DCs included as kills? (Oh, Doc, I don't play Doc -> DC) Are 3 men games included?
And since survivor do not NEED to survive to "win" (pip) the stats are flawed to begin with.
A lot of survivor take unnecessary risks, because death doesn't mean anything to them.Devs did state a time frame of when the stats were gathered I forget what they stated though... I agree with you that the stats are so flawed especially if the blight event was included.... games where the killer should have only gotten a 1k but instead ended up with a 3k because survivors were greedy mainly because of end game issues
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The only thing in this game that can instakill (grab and mori) is a tombstone Myers... if it wasnt that you're either trolling or KYF (being buggy as it is) had a bug that allowed this insta death to happen..
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ChesterTheMolester said:
More like 75% but cannot be picked up by the Killer.SenzuDuck said:Takes 3 hits but is at 90% speed lul.
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I dont really agree with the argument that you're trying to make... the only "best moments" that happen after gates are open is farming... this idea would stop that... it could potentially make stats more accurate as well.... moments like when killers that should have gotten a 1k but instead got a 2 or 3k because survivors were greedy would possibly be more rare thus making the stats more accurate... this end game could open up a whole new bag of perks, items (please new items and addons for survivors) and would make end game much better... getting chased by the killer with the entity consuming the map around you? That sounds bad ass!!apropos said:Well, it doesn't directly, but gen rushing is an example of how objectives become an efficient routine for success. The OPs idea would simply add another element similar to that, which indirectly places restrictions on how we interact later in the trial - if it all becomes routine like gen rushing has. Gens finished? Open the exit gates. Exit gates open? Leave quick!
It doesn't make sense to me to restrict how or when we interact. I don't think I'm alone here, but, I most look forward to the interactions I have with survs playing as the killer (and vice versa). The objectives are really only there to make these interactions have some purpose.
Some of the best moments happen after the gens are done and exit gates open, when the survs feel a bit safer and they become more brazen. I think that OPs idea would make experiences like that rare.
As a side note, I can see this causing problems for survivors that aren't ready to leave, too. Some players could accidentally, or intentionally, open the exit gates before all survivors are ready, forcing people to exit. If they aren't hooked.
I mean, counting on people to not open the exit gates early is like counting on people to finish the gens before harvesting nectar during the hallowed blight event.
Oh, and holding the trial hostage could be done by hiding before opening the exit gates, too.
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Freudentrauma said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Boss said:
@SenzuDuck said:
I didn't watch the stream.
Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
And when that time period occurred?70 days is what they stated.
So it contains the event? Then I have to say the stastic is basicly useless, then. Death rate was abnormal during that time. Farming rounds as well.
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Its because of matchmaking and ranking system.... ever since the devs made emblems worse then the old ranking system.... every match seems like the survivors haven't played longer then the week... please don't try to say theres no balancing issues... killer is fine and game is balanced when the game is still well in favor of the survivors "facepalm"SenzuDuck said:@iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
My swf group survives 75% of the time against any killerI 4k every match I play, even while blindfolded.
See how easy it is to lie on the internet?
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The hospital looks freaking huge!... I want a top floor map, outdoor map etc..... maybe a basement map... and maybe they all have a small section of the 1st one on em as well that's cool
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I stated awhile ago that DS should have the downside of being exposed and moriable attached to it after use and or end game... there was a thread talking about possible rework etc....... and then rancor was born.... it's not broken and the "bittermurmur 2.0" isn't that great at all ...... its not even auras its pretty much the docs madness tier up sooo
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Freddy is...... well....... freddy tier.. hes not B that is too high imo.. hes like F tier.... he is just a horrible design over all
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Survivors running perks that actually counter not 1 but every killer in the game? But that would give them no reason to call OP!! LULBlueberry said:It's fine. Run Premonition or Spine Chill, boom, countered.
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The downside is her power... she's blind to survivors.... she can have no haunting sound all she wants if the player ain't skilled she won't even get close to ya.... spirit is like nurse in the way that the player has to skilled with her if the player isnt then they won't get a kill.... prayer beeds are no wheres near the greatness that say wakisashi zaya (however its spelt) is...
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Git gud
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Spirit
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I was going to comment this 😅Dreamnomad said:Hello the 0 people reading this, I just thought I would share my opinions on the game in its current state, my thoughts might change over time depending on weather they change any of the stuff I going to talk about. I also encourage other to share their opinions as well.
Okay, so you want to share you opinions on the game and then proceed to give 0 opinions. My opinion of you is you should have more opinions.
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The problem isnt actual balance.... the game is the best it's ever been... the problem is that it's too easy to pip ------> this causes inexperienced players to reach red ranks where they shouldnt be...AndreasLyUs said:@Wolf74 I play both killer and survivor much. Both sides i think survivor should get a LITTLE buff. Not something big. The balance should be average 2 kills every match, but when i play killer in rank 1 i get around 3-4 kills.
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The devs have stated multiple times that they didnt expect anywheres near the amount success DBD has had... for the first few years of this game the team was tiny bit is now hovering around 80 people I believe... so while they were small and didnt have the resources they do now it was understandable to have slow bug fixes and balance changes as well... and with the store and everything else they have now patches and changes etc... have picked up in pace but they should dish out more ideas to finish the trial... they put out 3 different ideas for the hatch in 1 ptb... why not throw the end game ideas in the ptb? It's what you have it for more ideas in the ptb may attract more attention to it...SmokePotion said:@not_Queen said:
@Master We know the Community is eager to see the end game / DS changes. You say the ideas sound solid? We thought that too! That's why we went ahead and tested them. After testing, we realized the outcome wasn't what we were aiming for. What does that mean? Back to the drawing boad!These specific ideas might not have made it on the live game but many more ideas directly crafted by our Designers or inspired by Community feedback made it to the game.
Think about Wraith changes, flashlight effect changes, pallet changes, HEX spawn modfications, vault changes, etc. Without the work we put in game balance, we wouldn't be where we are today.
Some of that still needs work. Ie: Hex's still spawn next to survivor spawns. I can grit my teeth and bear my hex being in the open, if they don't immediately know where it is. But in about 1/3rd of my games, my hex is gone in under 2 minutes, because survivors spawn next to them, and gens, for that matter.
I do love how you guys listen. But you shouldn't tout something as a success that the community agrees still needs a good bit of work.That being said, despite my occasional inept rage about things you guys are hopefully fixing. You guys do a good job, but like the OP kinda insinuated. i wish you guys were a bit more profesional with stuff.
Like patch Notes being released with the patch. (or even before hand like many games do)
Like typos that have been in the game since launch being cleaned up. (ie: doctors lore and dull key)
Like having a Known Issue's area that stays updated so the same bugs aren't reported by the community daily, and we don't feel like you're ignoring them.
Like the the boards that are supposed to be updated weekly, being updated (the last time a weekly q/a was posted was june, what's that telling new players when they come to your forums? To me it made me think the game might be dying. Either start doing them again, or remove the inactive board)
I could probably come up with more, but there isn't a need. I've made my point pretty well. I absolutely love this game. And it's definately not dying, it's growing, and has numbers similar to some games with a healthy e-sports league.
I think that's part of the issue. I bet ya'll didn't expect this to be this successful.
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This /\.... not enough to do as a survivor... I want to see crafting and the ability to harvest materials in match to craft offerings, addons and such... more easter eggs in game! ( I know the devs are starting to do this with videos and such but being able to find something in match that hints toward the chapter would be best) ... finally an objective that needs to be completed before or after gens and before the exit gate... and the ability to sell/burn items, addons and offerings to earn more bloodpoints this would help both sides...Dustin said:@Peasant said:
I had a much longer post, but it vanished on me. I'll get straight to the point here.People aren't playing survivor because they want more points and they can fall victim to group penalization.
Survivors earn 15-20k BP a round normally (if you don't die absurdly early) so this combined with the faster queues might actually be better for points than you think.
You can do everything right as survivor, and still die because your team did nothing. With DC's on the rise (according to the community) this is only made worse.
This means that there are three ways to effectively respond.
1.) Increase survivor bloodpoint rewards at base
2.) Enforce stricter DC punishment
3.) Buff survivors (Please for the love of God don't pick this one!)What are your thoughts on this folks?
I quit playing survivor months ago and the main reason is there's not enough to do and it becomes boring. I'm either running the killer or doing gens. Both of which are always the same repetitive task because maps don't have anything to offer aside from the bare minimum and once you know the killer that determines how you're going to play the rest of the trial. I'm not saying this is why people don't like playing survivor but that's personally what made me not want to play survivor. Killer is the only role that feels dynamic because survivors are different each round. (tl;dr on this part of post - Add more stuff for survivors to do so it's less boring even if it's unlocking a shortcut for survivors or loot or something)
I do agree that less people seem to be playing survivor compared to killer and some of your proposals may help but honestly I can't imagine any of those having a long term effect on the game. Although extra BP for survivors should happen regardless. The BP earnings survivors get are pitiful.
Regarding #3 survivors don't need a buff because the only meaningful nerfs they've received lately is the vaulting change and the healing speed change. Most survivors have already adapted to the changes as well but at least even with survivors understanding how to play around these changes killers have a bit more control on the game. The only reason those are the only nerfs that mattered is because survivors are using more time healing and need to go specific routes now for certain windows so that helps killer control the flow of the map.
For DC's I still believe escalating queue timers should be a thing. Every time you DC the timer increases by a small increment and would reset each day when dailies are given out. It wouldn't be a permanent solution but it would at least reduce the chances of you getting a player that DC's in your game essentially by temporarily removing them from the pool of people playing.
DC#1 = 2 Minutes
DC#2 = 5 Minutes
DC#3 = 10 Minutes
DC#4 = 15 Minutes
DC#5 = 30 Minutes (Highest timer)I acknowledge the arguments to the timer suggestion being that if a survivor DC's and you play through your entire game you could potentially get them again because their timer would end by the time your game ended. However I feel as though if a player DC'd enough they would get bored and play something else or stop DC'ing. Although the risk there is if people who wanted to DC can't regardless of solution do they AFK. So I feel like if you're looking for solutions for DC'ing you need to look for a solution for AFK'ers too which I don't really have.
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Adding these things alone would maybe slow the game down....... and maybe ya dont even need to add secondary objectives.... I think maybe they would still need to add something to the main objective but they could try and add crafting and such before going in with adding an objective before or after gens
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Don't notice any lack of survivors either... rather then implementing this system it would be nice if the devs just added more to the survivor side... not buffs but more items, offerings, changes to old offerings, a crafting system, the ability to burn addons and offerings that we don't use! (This would be for both sides) just a crafting system and harvesting system to get the things to craft would make survivor life more interesting... that's why I dont enjoy playing survivor because it's boring!
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MegaWaffle said:
@HellDescent said:
@friendlykillermain said:
@friendlykillermain said:
i dont know if anyone has seen a worse one but i think this weeks takes the gold for both killer and survivori mean who even uses stridor and fireup could be good but isnt enough and wglf could be good but its not nearly as good as it could be and vigil is just bad
Stridor is the best perk you could use for spirit
If you are playing on PC then I would say Stridor is great, however on console its not fantastic unless you are one of the odd ones who bought an expensive headset.
Yeah with a ridiculous headset stridor works wonders.... without the headset the whole game is rough to play
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No samething..... survivors trying to escape and 2 killers trying to kill them... the killer with the most kills/hooks wins...Master said:
So nI generators, only hitting each other's?Bravo0413 said:
It would be the basic idea of the killer with the most kills and hooks wins because that's what killers do is kill... why dont you think that this could happen?Master said:Elaborate how a KVK mode should work
Anyway, we will never see a KVK mode in DBD, I am pretty sure about that
Huntress would win every game probably
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It would be the basic idea of the killer with the most kills and hooks wins because that's what killers do is kill... why dont you think that this could happen?Master said:Elaborate how a KVK mode should work
Anyway, we will never see a KVK mode in DBD, I am pretty sure about that
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I just want a hooded grim reaper type killer... with a long handled scythe "siighs"
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I mean a few seconds in this game is quite a bit.. just look at the pick up animation etc....Blueberry said:The description makes you think it actually helps a lot when in reality it's a barely noticeable amount. I believe it was tested to only add a few seconds if that.
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Yes as stated in previous comments
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Rip WGLF possible farming
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Its not about appearance or polish... its more about gameplay... survivors spawn in match there is no actual beginning to the match just work on gens and get out asap for DBD no reason to explore no explanation to how we get grabbed by an evil entity and spawn in 100% fine.... no illness, no injuries, no side effects at all.... it's a very anti climactic situation when you think about it and it feels over all rushed and bhvr did rush the game because they knew other teams were working on the same idea and they wanted to be 1st (ofcourse "its multiplayer only no one cares if the game comes together fully" when players should care) ........ Last Year feels more finished because theres actual beginning, middle, end...... it feels complete asides for the minor touch ups that need happening with the survivor weapons... there's way more to do as a PLAYER... meaning both killer and survivor it's a more fun experience overall than running in circles "shrugs"Freudentrauma said:@Bravo0413 said:
remember this game is in beta and it already offers more fun things to do and feels more like a finished product then DBD and it's missing the final touches even in beta it already has leader boards!... DBD has felt unfinished for years now "shrugs"How does DbD doesn't feel finished? I mean yes LY looks good right now in Beta, quite polished, but it also lacks content (Maps etc.) and balancing. It really feels like a good game, inspired by the L4D versus mode. Just missing some stuff.
DbD on the other hand has it's Maps, Killers, Perks and Offerings etc. It's a full fletched product that is and has evolved over time. It might feel or look rougher sometimes and there is always bugs and issues with it. It could be better, but it's nothing I would call unfinished.
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A few touch ups deff need to happen on the survivor side but I takes getting used to playing killer ya cant just jump in and wait at the insta death spots you need to hide in predator mode... one change that needs happening is the survivors shouldnt be able to see what killer it is after every death... this game is no where near as bad as it is and it has a ton of potential... remember this game is in beta and it already offers more fun things to do and feels more like a finished product then DBD and it's missing the final touches even in beta it already has leader boards!... DBD has felt unfinished for years now "shrugs"
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Hell yeah /\ it's only in beta and the dev team is waiting another 3 months before final release to make the final touch ups... the game will deff give DBD competition when it comes outOGlilSPOOK20 said:
The game is way fun... Way most interesting and upgrading and collecting items was a great thing to do. Switching between 3 different killers that have different powers. This a Beta and it's looking very promising... It's going to be dope when more maps, killers and survivors are added.EqMonkVeeshan said:@HellDescent said:
If dbd will remain in its current state(all the bugs mostly), this game will be the end of it. They only people left playing it are going to be content creators.if DbD remained the same as it is now. DbD will stay on top. Last year might overtake F13 but it will not touch DbD.
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People still talking about the teacher 😂 that's just bait guys they leave that info in there so players find it and it leads them away from actual important info
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2mins is a long chase dude... give you this it can be the normal at the beginning of the match if you run into the right person.. the average I would say is like 45 seconds to just over a min
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Imo Last Year looks bad ass... and remember more work is going to be done to it.. hide or die is a bit blah but theres still a decent amount of work to be done to it still to be done to it... Tyde stated in his video "dont judge the game on this current state"
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This /\ a perfect example of how the devs use to nerf or how hard they nerf killer is unrelenting and the old STBFL like they could have just made them not stack but what did the team do??..... they crushed them both and stomped them in the ground afterwards.... survivors get little tiny taps on the hands compared to what killer has delt with... really? Crying about the new vaults that ya dont even notice while playing? Exhaustion that's hardly even a nerf at all... the maplayouts (that still doesnt even effect asylum btw sometimes theres still like 6 pallets in the building alone) again aren't even recognizable like really?Tsulan said:
You really believe that the queues are bad because survivors got nerfed to hard, and everyone quit?WalterWh1te said:@chococri said:
So, they literally spoke nothing about the killer queues issues...Thoughts?
Rewatch and listen closely:
- There is no Matchmaking Bug
- This is not a problem mainly caused by the event
- You need a ratio of 4:1 for fast queues and there is simply not enough survivors anymore to reach that ratio.
Com got what they deserved. Have fun waiting
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Oh boy, I wish survivors would at least get once nerfed like they used to nerf killers. Where they made killer perks completely useless. Instead of those minor nerfs to meta perks, that are still meta.
The only thing I can see survivors mad about is the infinites being gone because that's the only recognizable change