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@Giche said:
@powerbats said:
Well we are talking about a she killer here so he can be right technically speaking.
And now you are trolling.
Shou ! Under the bridge.
Lies and slander hater, you take that back right now !!!!
But in all seriousness we're taking her possible shortcomings too seriously this soon after launch. I want to see how she handles after a week or so. By then there'll have been plenty of data to pore over as well as for both sides to get to know her better.
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@Chrona said:
@Peanits said:
Honestly, I don't think it matters. I have zero issues finding another survivor to heal me. Even back when I did run self care, someone would usually show up mid heal to finish it off faster. Two survivors can heal each other in the same time as they could heal themselves with self care.So if anything, it's base heal speed we're talking about. I could go either way on increasing that.
Personally, I think people overplay the value of selfcare over a medkit. I've been burning items and offerings on meg so I can prestige her. EVERY game I enter, I have the ability to heal myself. And I only run self care about half the time. The only time I would say you're likely to care about how much more powerful self care over a medkit is when you as a killer are running franklin's demise.
As far as speed, I don't think it should ever drop below 1/3 speed. Half is still pretty long.
Whenever I bring a medkit or anyone else does 1 and or more killer brings Franklins and or Sloppy Butcher.
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@RSB said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@WhateverIGuess said:
@AStupidMonkeyy said:
@WhateverIGuess said:
REEEEEEEEEEE I actually have to learn how to play the new killer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trash! Pure trash! Ugh, I'm disgusted!Don't come on a forum and start acting like a dou**e for no reason.
Sorry, I just find it very funny when people already say she's trash after she's been out for like a day. She's quite good, BUT NO, I'M TRASH AT HER SO IT MEANS SHE'S TRASH. Logic.
So people comment that she's "slightly underpowered" and they're crybaby whiner losers but you can comment that she's "quite good" when both sides have the exact same amount of information to go on and that's reasonable?
Because it it HIM, you get it? HE can't be at fault, because it is HIM.
Hypocrisy at it's best.
Well we are talking about a she killer here so he can be right technically speaking.
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@MojoTheFabulous said:
I think Meg gets so much because she is one of the most played Survivors, if not the most played. So it'd be more likely to make money from her than anyone else. Although I feel giving more cosmetics to DLC characters would entice people to buy them.The issue with dlc cosmetics is most of the money goes to the companies that own the rights to them. So BHVR doesn't make as much money versus their own creations.
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@RSB said:
She has only one addon, that allows her to see the blood, and it is an ultra-rare. There are no brown, yellow and green addons for it. Right now it is a bug, and will be fixed in the next patch probably.
Ok thanks for clarifying that, hopefully in this weeks dv stream they discuss that. I've been watching random streamers play her and getting surprise grabs so I'm curious how that'll be addressed.
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@Tsulan said:
BTW. Why don´t we have any fat survivors? I mean, all survivors are unrealistic fit.Remember the ahem one thread with killers where a sumo wrestler and granny in wheelchair? The super fat survivor that'd crush teh killer etc, ah that would be a funny one.
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@RSB said:
You recognise, that being able to see blood is currently a bug, and after the fix, she won't see it, unless she runs an ultra-rare addon? That's why I said survivors need to know how she works, so they will trump her. Without all information about her people claim she is good, but actually she is not.
20s cooldwon to use her power is a joke, as well as long charge time and not being able to move while charging. Combine it with the upcoming fix, the survivors who adapt and realise, that while she tries to mindgame them on the loop, they can just walk away from it and hide/go to another loop, stop running while in chase etc, and see how well can she do.
Btw. many people are basing their opinions on streamers' videos, where they play on KYF with the best addons/perks and with people who are casuals and just want to have fun playing with their favourite streamer, sometimes just hand themselves to them just for fun. They are not normal, competitive players from high ranks.
Did they say the bug is going to stay that way ie she has to use Ultra Rare addon or will it be a tier based thing for addons? As in she gets to see blood at all 5 tiers of items brown, yellow, green purple, pink. The higher the tier the longer she can see the blood similar to say Predator.
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One issue is map rng with the gates, get a high mobility killer cough Nurse, cough Billy close together and it's like facing 2 killers. I've had matches where even on Coldwind the gates are literally within 30 feet of each other or less. Throw ina Huntress with Iridescent or Clown with Pinky's and Noed etc.
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The self care nerf/rework is still planned , they just want to make sure it works for solo as well. I've always thought it was stupid to be able to sit there 2 feet or so from killer and heal run off and resume. The interrupt and it resets is fine and totally balanced and people will stop trying to taunt the killer or play so recklessly.
Perhaps they can make it so that if you're running Botany it keeps the ehal % done but has a decay timer starting the moment you stop. It'd work similar to gen regression and you'd perhaps have to hit the skill check during the next upkeep to save progress. If you fail it's like blowing the gen up, you lose some of the healing done.
It's like you reopened the wounds some so if you want to heal you'd better not be too close to the killer. It'd be a good way to shake the meta up some and help solo's a bit.
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**Edited some extraneous stuff out and I'm not trying to start a flame war. Merely pointing out you're doing stuff you're calling others out on.
**@RSB said:
@powerbats said:
My god, you again. I won't comment your troll posts, because you seek only reasons to start flame wars. Bye, my sweet prince.
You admitted this was a troll post..You told someone they have a tiny 12 year old brain and then said to stop being childish.
I agree with you and ask questions when you have a good post/point but I'll call both sides out when I see something like that. I'm not trying to insult people or flame them, merely point out that issue. When I go to insult it's pretty obvious and I've yet to actually start a full on flame war. It's not productive and the mods would probably insta ban me within minutes of doing so.
So consider this a peace offering of sorts since neither one of us gets anywhere with the insults etc.
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@RSB said:
@WhateverIGuess said:
REEEEEEEEEEE I actually have to learn how to play the new killer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trash! Pure trash! Ugh, I'm disgusted!k, now go away wild survivor, shoo.
There is one thing you can't realise with your tiny, 12-year old brain - the fact experienced players can NOW do good with her, does not mean she will stay in the same spot forever. Survivors do not even know how to play against her, don't know they are invisible. Once they realise it, they will bully her to death.
The fact "people" like you are defending her so much is suspicious. When you were screaming for nerfs for Freddy, he was already #########, survs just did not know how to play against him. I wonder in what condition she must be, if you defend her so much?
PS. Stop being such a child in your posts. This thread was a satire/sarcasm, but as always, some survivor must went here and throw ######### at right and left.
Pot meet kettle, you say stop being childish just after insulting him with a 12 year old brain comment. You do realize how hypocritical that looks right? It doesn't matter if your post was intended as satire or not especially considering your comments in another thread that was satirical.
You can assume she'll have issues all you want but until she actually gets released and any adjustments get made you can't say for certain.
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Well if killers would stop dodging lobbies everytime they see more than 1 Claudette Meg would be less popular.
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@IronWolf115 said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@IronWolf115 said:
I am gonna wait to see if she gets buffed at all. She has only just come out to be fair so there is room for change at least.Check out the PTB Feedback Forum. Janick is dismissing any and all killer concerns. She is what she is.
I just checked them out, I see what you mean but for now I stand by what I said.
She has only been out for a couple of hours so I want to see where this goes
Janick is dong that because the killer is just out and the rant fest went full blown toxic. If I was a dev I wouldn't give an inch either and let the data play out with testing. If after 1-2 weeks she needs tweaking they can then address it. But talk about knee jerk reactions about something, that's just as bad as what they accused survivors of doing.
No game company out there except Blizzard which seems to release stuff that's broken or works so they break it is going to buff on 1st day. If you look at Riot they put it on their test realms and if it's extremely busted one way or another they'll add a small change on ptr.
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@Giche said:
What i get from this is this is simply a matter of principles.
You can describe the "art of trolling" (lul) as much as you want, it doesn't make it a good thing for me, and still hate it.
What is particular to this game is the fact that the devs have cattered to this troll majority, for the majority of the game lifespan, and only STARTED to fight it recently.
In an healthy game and community , disgusting peoples like OchiPedo would have NEVER been so popular.
And his hardcore fanbase is not better than him, i affirm this without shame.
Hate me all you want for this, but of course never question yourself for defending these kind of peoples.
So when you see numerous serious feedback thread being plagued by those kind of "lighthearted joke xP ", knowing that the devs will certainly LISTEN to this kind of trollish answer, it's just a normal thing to do to not let them destroy the game even more.
Devs have made a lot of money on this toxicity.
Principles again, but for me, hunger should not justify the means.
They solded their souls to the toxic survivors mass, and are trying to get it back lately.
I'll respond later but there's a lot wrong here, especially with your assumptions. I don't like Ochido for one nor his followers. There's pther things but I'll add those in later.
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@Giche said:
As i agree with you on the principle, the double-standart here made me laught.
For what i saw, if a survivor troll, whatever the thread is about, it's "some lighthearted joking" while a killer reacting to it is starting a flamewar, i also assume that a killer's feedback is whining ?
**There's always trolling on this forum, but the flame war insults go over the top, scrubvivor really? I'm also not talking about just hat post but others as well. The art of trolling is actually quite fun when done right and no one gets offended because there's always certain lines you don't cross.
Some good biting sarcasm within a well reasoned post is a great way to zing one or more while keeping it still this side of civil. I don't see killers feedback as whining anymore than survivors. But what I do consider whining is when the killer isn't even out a full day and the rant threads popup.
What makes it so extremely hilarious is these come from sometimes along with the usual posters who when something negative will affect survivors. They say the exact same thing to them we're saying, it's only been less than a day. We tell them the same thing they said to survivors complaining, wait and see how it works out.**
I know this game and his community at least as much as you do (i assume too), don't tell me how to react to it.
I'm not telling you how to react to it, just warning you of the consequences of one of your choices you've chosen to follow. Since given the direction this thread has gone I'd give it less than a day may'be two before the mods become involved.
Also i still haven't figured out where are the insults in my posts.
I mean legit one.
They're there, you just can't see them since you're so used to using them.
Scrubvivor maybe, but isn' it considered like a "lighthearted joke" like the numerous "Killers just want EZ 4K" and other happy things i see regulary down here ?
Saying killers want EZ 4k isn't on the same level as calling everyone who plays a survivor scrubvivor then repeating it.
I saw that some peoples like to be quite sensitive over this aspect on this forum.
**This is funny since the moment someone calls out some of the killer mains on here they go ballistic. It's not that people are sensitive on here, it's that they're tired of seeing the same mindless mudslinging from the same few on both sides.
If you and the rest really want to have a flame and insult war go get your own private forum and have at it.**
Some weren't on the Steam forum back then, and still aren't on Reddit, quite weird ?
Some don't bother with the cesspool that is Reddit and Steams just as bad now. I've got one of the original accounts from back when Condition Zero was the 1st release from Valve long before Steam was even out. I've had a Reddit account since they were out as well
But Reddit has become the new 4Chan and Steam forums aren't far behind with the COD crowd infesting it. So the fact some refuse to deal with that type of 6 year old behavior means nothing in the context of where they post.
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Holy it post once it posts it 2x instantly
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@Tsulan said:
@CornChip said:
Why not just make the game 4 survivors walk around a small map with no objective and no way to escape while a blood thirsty killer mows them down every game in only two minutes.. should sell wellWhy not just give the survivors electro shockers and let them torture and bully the killer...
Should sell well.Wait so we get to be the Doctor and nuke you from 1 floor on Gideons and never do anything but spam electrode most of match? Well damn sign me and the rest of us up.
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@Tsulan said:
Neither did killers. But sure, whatever you say.
I think he was going for really intense and dry sarcasm of the British kind. It's like a fine wine, it's an acquired taste.
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@Giche said:
@powerbats@George_Soros said:
Just a slight correction: I'm not here to troll. I'm here to troll YOU.I guess i should be nice and follow some faggy rules with peoples like this huh ?
Knowing that this kind of peoples pop in every thread, even the feedback one, spewing non-sense and insidiously starting flamewar.
You can judge me all you want, for what i care.
I also saw you defending this kind of behaviors quite a few time across the forums.
"They've opinions and the right to express it "
Of course .
The said peoples hide behind this assertion after trolling on some thread.This little detail only tell a lot, i have no sympathy nor respect for peoples with this kind of mindset.
I call out people on both sides for going overboard just like I did with you and your next 2 responses just proved my point. The mods don't get involved too often but when they do it's because the threads started devolving into flame wars.
Now which would you prefer, a good discussion with some joking around and light trash talking? The alternative is what you're currently involved in which is a insult laden flame war which the mods will come in and either warn everyone or shut the thread down.
I prefer the former to the latter since it lets everyone have a discussion while blowing off steam. The latter tends to end rather abruptly and not always nicely if mods have to close the thread.
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@Giche said:
@George_Soros said:
Which gives us a great opportunity to troll them, and who would pass up such fun
Here we are.
The reason why this community will always be toxic ,In-game and on all forums.
Thanks to toxic scrubvivors.
Easy to act all smug and saying trollish non-sense ("Everything it's fine, they're just crybaby huur duur")
While playing the EASY side of the game.
Some respectable "people", yeah...
@Giche said:
@Sleepy said:
This forum is laughable by the amount of salt coming from survivors.Are you really surprised ?
It's like the Steam forum, with better troll who know how to write.
The content remain the same tho.
You say the community's toxic and then what do you do, you toss out an insult right away. I mean some killer mains yourself included aren't ever toxic in game and on the forums. Because if they and you were toxic that'd make your statement completely false.
I could post quite a ew more showing you doing the exact same behavior you just described but it's pretty obvious you''re just as bad if not worse.
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Yes, colorblind people do need help in order to be able to play the game better.
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@Dr_doom_j2 said:
You can 4k against people who are trash. Believe me, I know, I play console as well and 3/4k with Freddy quite a bit. Problem is he is very dependent on having the right add one and perks. A base Freddy is trash and almost unusable at rank 15. Take a peerless, add on less Freddy to rank 1 my guy, tell me how good he is then.
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
Freddy isn't good @douggie123 Everyone knows it. You're probably playing at rank 21 without add-ons so you think he's good. + console is a bit different than pc. Freddy is weak. The Spirit is already weak. But as I said in the beginning, she is still in the PTB so they can change a lot about her right now.Yet people on here have routinely taken Freddy to rank 1 perkless or with the right addons. Now before you come back with the right addons nonsense that's true for every killer. The killers that know how to maximize a killer and play optimally do really well with Freddy and against good rank 1 players.
The fact that people sue the rank 21 insult to try and debase the other sides points is laughable. What's even worse is yet against the same doom and gloom players are on here The exact same ones that when the exhaustion nerf was being tested told survivors it wasn't even out 2 hours and they were whining.
The exact same killers who said wait and see, give it time and see what comes out. Yet here we are yet again omg she's weak buff immediately etc etc.
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Perhaps the Jamaican survivor was her lover or someone she knew in life that tried and failed to protect her. Both would be right along the Entity's lore. Since the Entity would get amusement from both possible survivor stories torments about facing her.
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
Even though I don't agree with the principle of that viewpoint (because it makes killers weak in general), but that is a really good point lol
Yeah the principle is on shaky lore grounds but is really funny when looked at from amusement side.
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I never use DS so while I might try this I usually run Detectives Hunch or Calm Spirit along with SC, SB, and PM. I'm planning on trying some other new perks like Lithe and Balanced as well in place of SB.
But the histrionics are hilarious from the same posters as usual, hasn't even been out being tested for a day and it's end of the world again.
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@SnakeSound222 said:
It's not every single Survivor. It took over a year for them to remove instablinds, pallet vacuums, nerf DS, SB, and BNP, and buff Hag and Trapper tells you that a good amount of Survivors (probably the majority) wanted to bully the Killer with meta perks, items, and add-ons. Whenever BHVR makes a change that makes it harder for them to bully Killers, they whine and moan until BHVR gives in and either buffs Survivors accordingly or reverses the Killer buff they made, even if it means breaking their promises. I know that there are friendly Survivors out there who don't want to bully the Killer but they are heavily outnumbered.
Also, your experiences are not the same as other players'.
Do you know how hard it is to code things with as the devs have put it spaghetti code? How many iterations did it take for them to get stuff to where they could put it on the ptb without completely crashing the game? You few are quick to blame survivors for complaining but ignore the more obvious issue, it's probably the code.
If you think BHVR is caving in I challenge you to look at Blizzard who despite all their money and vast resources still and I mean still. Always manages to screw up patches royally year in and year out with the exact same things. The experience bug they've dine 3x within a relatively short amount of time in game patch history.
If you look at D3 and D3 ROS and all the major screw ups they've had.despite extensive testing and they still flat out release something that's bad. Then you look at BHVR a company that's still going through growing pains but has a good roadmap out finally. The automatic response is always the same, it's the survivors whining that causes them to shelve something.
The DS nerf didn't work they way they wanted it to so got shelved until it could be smoothed out, but again it was survivors whined not because it didn't work. The SB changes went through but not until after a lot of testing to make sure things worked properly.
But when they got delayed it was because survivors were whining, not because the changes didn't work as they wanted them too. If BHVR ran the company the biggest complainers wanted they'd be out of business since every release would be buggy asf.
I mean look what happened with the Clown release the console users threw a hissy fit about waiting and so a console release that should've gone through more testing before certification got rushed. What came out was buggy and required more testing like it should've. Oh and who were the biggest complainers, killers who wanted Clown if the threads were any indication.
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@pauloandrade22 said:
@powerbats said:
@RSB said:
@powerbats said:
@RSB said:
Oh, give me a break, snowflake. Every word insults you in some way. You are the perfect example of why children should not be raised in a "my little, precious special boy" way, because you are extremly protective about yourself, and have ego higher than your intelligence. If stupidity could fly, you would be hitting the ceiling with your head.
You just proved my point yet again, I merely pointed out how you like to insult at pretty much every opportunity and the 1st sentence you do it again. You've also conveniently ignored where I clearly said your insults don't bother me and in fact amuse me.
As if your words hurt me, buddy. You just try to look more intelligent, than you actually are, and by sitting on this forum 24/7 you won't find friends.
No, that was not an insult, snowboy.
You once again prove my points and no one sits on this forum 24/7 because that's impossible both physically and practically. I've also made friends on the forum, we don't always agree with each other but we're till friends.
But go ahead and keep up with the usual, it doesn't bother me in the least.
Dude just ignore him/her. Don't feed the insulter please.
I know feeding trolls is a bad thing to do, but it's almost like the Shape perk, Play With Your Food. You can't resist toying with them sometimes.
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@SovererignKing said:
For both sides, just a refund option. Trash the items you don’t want for BP. 1k for common, 2k for uncommon, 3k for rare, 4K for very rare, ultra rare 5k. Don’t want to eliminate the need for BP from matches, but it would help the grind a bit. There are so many good new perks to grind for, items and add ons you want over those you don’t want.
The swap idea isn’t too horrible, but it would impact the need to for BP from matches too heavily. Not to mention you would hardly ever see any Killer or Survivors running anything but the best of the best. Still need to have that RNG of the bloodweb have some effect. In my opinion anyway.
I've always thought that being able to refund items but not for so much bp would be nice snce say you're Trapper/Hag you want thickened mist offerings. For some survivors you want more medkits etc instead of so many Flashlight parts and addons.
My thought was a 10% refund so if you spend 3k you get 300 bp back, 4k 400 etc. That keeps bp from being too easy to gain while also allowing people to trash the addons they don't want. I've got 1 survivor with nothing but flashlights yellow and above but know that if i bring them the killer is just gonna tunnel me.
It won't matter if I drop it on the ground, they still goa fte em because hey it's a flashlight lol.
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@RSB said:
@powerbats said:
@RSB said:
Oh, give me a break, snowflake. Every word insults you in some way. You are the perfect example of why children should not be raised in a "my little, precious special boy" way, because you are extremly protective about yourself, and have ego higher than your intelligence. If stupidity could fly, you would be hitting the ceiling with your head.
You just proved my point yet again, I merely pointed out how you like to insult at pretty much every opportunity and the 1st sentence you do it again. You've also conveniently ignored where I clearly said your insults don't bother me and in fact amuse me.
As if your words hurt me, buddy. You just try to look more intelligent, than you actually are, and by sitting on this forum 24/7 you won't find friends.
No, that was not an insult, snowboy.
You once again prove my points and no one sits on this forum 24/7 because that's impossible both physically and practically. I've also made friends on the forum, we don't always agree with each other but we're till friends.
But go ahead and keep up with the usual, it doesn't bother me in the least.
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@Sarief said:
@Vadim239 said:
I got it people!!! I need to come up with some of the most controvertial statements and stick to it to make the discussion flamingly hot, popular and discussed aggresively
I'll give you few:
facecamping is strategy
Doctor is high tier
huntress is middle tier
Ruin is OP
SelfCare is balanced
NOED is OK <- but I use this oneYou forgot looping is fun for the killer
The maps are all perfectly balanced including Barn.
Leatherface is god tier and only baddies use Insidious on him
Flashlights are to help the killer see in the dark better.
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@SovererignKing said:
On topic though.The reason Killers don’t keep their add ons is because there are Killers who play only one Killer. If they didn’t lose their add ons, most wouldn’t even need BP to spend on more add ons. You would end up banking BP till the cap, and have no reason to spend them. It’s nothing more than the developers trying to keep BP relevant to these players. They could possibly get bored of playing their selected Killer, and decide there’s no point in playing if they can’t earn any more BP.
In short : Player retention mechanic.
Survivors, the reason they keep them is bothing more than a reward for survival. Game was supposed be “hard to survive” but we know how that went... so thus we have Survivors with MASSIVE stockpiles of items and add ons.
Just another drop in the bucket show casing that the balance is kind of screwed up, and Survivors are escaping more than they should.
What would you suggest though since on survivor side I hate flashlights and their addons, they don't fit my playstyle and I never seem to use them right anyways. Perhaps may'be give killers the option to convert trash addons into a random of the same tier or multiples of trash addons they don't like into 1 tier better random item. But Ultra rares would be off limits still.
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@Sarief said:
@BloodyNights said:
Going back on topic to the actual poster. I think that it's mostly so certain add-ons can't be abused for the killer. Mostly super and ultra rare items in multiple games. But also I think there is no real counter to them. Killers have Franklin's Demise to get rid of survivors entire item + add-ons. Well as long as they don't have a chance to go back for them, they've also at times seemingly disappeared from existence when going back for it. Also it may just be me but I think most of the killers add-ons have a much higher effect than a survivor add-on in most cases.^ mostly this
Killer addons have much more Impact, the higher in quality they are.
While survivors have high impact with such items, it's only high because the matches are short. It's issue of game balance not the items itself.
And whatever Items they bring, it does not make it easier to survive the trial specifically for them. It makes it easier to finish the objectives or help other survivors, but in the end if exit gates are not opened, only 1 can survive. With odds like this, what would you feel if you bring purple toolbox only to be first to be found and facecamped?
For killers, on the other hand, the objective and thing addons affect is the same. So better addons = more chances to actually kill all 4.I know that logic is kinda twisted there but it still holds.
ps: I would still prefer to have a way to farm those addons, for example by doing ritual in-match to keep addons or get new ones.
While I feel killer addons are more powerful perhaps if aside from Ultra rares and even some rares they'd be able to keep more. So if for chance they hook x survivors at least 1x time but 3 make it out and 1 gets sac'd. (yes would induce camping but as an example, not how'd it actually work) So if they had say a rare addon but not a higher tier rare they'd get to keep it.
That or perhaps be given a lower quality tier of same item since some addons are more prized than others in the same tier. For example Huntress Bandolier for the 2 extra hatchets. I've used that without Iridescents for 7 hatchet surprise builds.
For Amanda there's her 1 extra Reverse Bear Trap addon and for Trapper it's the extra traps bag. That might be a little wonky to figure out but that's an example. The ritual in match is a nice idea and it could even be a random thing they have to do. You could make it so you have to chase the obsession but never hit them. It could be hook 1 survivor on 2 different hooks.
The killers need something besides just the few things they have to do and same for survivors to make it more interesting. If you give killers something optional that they'd still be able to do in normal gameplay that'd be a nice thing to add.
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@RSB said:
Oh, give me a break, snowflake. Every word insults you in some way. You are the perfect example of why children should not be raised in a "my little, precious special boy" way, because you are extremly protective about yourself, and have ego higher than your intelligence. If stupidity could fly, you would be hitting the ceiling with your head.
You just proved my point yet again, I merely pointed out how you like to insult at pretty much every opportunity and the 1st sentence you do it again. You've also conveniently ignored where I clearly said your insults don't bother me and in fact amuse me.
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@RSB said:
You know what was I talking about, but you still play stupid and trying to reverse my words. If I'm a bully, then you are a nerd, who is beaten at the school and just tries to boost his ego at this forum, by trolling. Go away, shoo kid.
Like I said you just can't post without trying to insult and claim something that isn't true. Your words speak for themselves and we don't have to reverse them. The school insults say all we need to know about who the ego one is. Also I graduated high school long before you were even born.
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@Sarief said:
1) no, I mean don't make up lies. Like right now, I didn't say whatever you tried to put in my mouth.
3) I believe you think "crazy" is insult. well, it's not and not meant to be. glhf
4) first you call @SovererignKing to help you and then you didn't call anyone? and leave this discussion for the topic it's in.
No, you didn't do anything. I did NOT insult you. I don't troll you specifically. Get a grip. I also do not follow you, you just happened to be in the thread I read in the forum I read. What are the odds?
1, Also I didn't lie and you and the rest know it since I based what I said upon my experiences with the issue being discussed. You and the others that wanted to try and use that as an insult failed badly. The other posters in the thread that agreed with me got attacked because gasp they dared agree with me.
Allso why are you posting the mouth part in response to me unless you're posting on 2 different accounts because only 1 poster has accused me of that and it wasn't you. So are you RSB account also?
2 No I'm referring to all the times you throw out an insult or attempted veiled insult.
- I asked him to come in since he's a killer main and you kept claiming one thing like the following. Then when confronted by it you denied ever saying it.
@Sarief said:
> 7) Noed, ruin = are balanced. Ruin should be buffed, tbh. Had problem with it only once, because killer was laggy af.
Well you just happen to post in a thread you'd never posted until you saw I posted in it, then you start the usual insult attempts.
But like I've told the others it doesn't bother me an in actuality amuses me to no end. But enough of the barbs, if you want to have actual discussions without insults, attempted insults, or anything else we both throw at each other I'm game.
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@Sarief said:
you're correct.
well, I mainly respond to see if they have any viable arguments. I'm kinda curious of balance in asymetric genre and what people think is balanced or not. Having constructed arguments is good for that.
Last few posts though were "you seem right, but it's already rebuted. - where? - in the past - where? - in the past"
guess this mine is exhausted for nowWell considering some of your responses consist solely of insults instead of responding to viable arguments.
ps: the term I was implying is "cheat-like" which is "cheat" in it's short form. The way it brakes balance is beyond simple "imbalanced".
having perk in all top ten used builds and being at the top of use for years just proves it.If you want to use cheat like because it's used in the top ten builds that negates your argument since both sides have those types of issues. Also all games have meta's where something is in pretty much every top build. In League of Legends TP for pretty much every top laner, for the mid it's now cleanse, Bot lane is always either heal/exhaust or heal/ignite.
For Overwatch the champs chosen are pretty much always the same general ones, for WOW well it's pretty much the same as well. The following page is loaded with Asymetrical games listed and all had/have metas. That doesn't mean that those using them are cheating at all but the met'as sometimes do need adjusting.
Which is something they're working on right now still, exhaustion nerfs to SB type perks, Flashlight saves became harder. The nerf to DS is long overdue and the SC nerf will be welcome as well. The buffs to lesser used perks was nice on both sides.
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@Sarief said:
@powerbats said:
Wait wasn't it you that said that Ruin was fine and so was NOED earlier and I along with @SovererignKing called you out on it. You also said SC had no counters yet several of us called you out on it, you then claimed that survivors have no counters and use cheat perks.All because you can't handle the fact that gasp killers and survivors each have perks and items addons that can counter each other. After you got rebutted by quite a few posters you resorted to the same I claim it's true so it must be true argument.
Now you're doing the same thing as the other few on here, when you can't refute attempt to insult like crazy. But like them it fails spectacularly, sure it storkes your epeens but doesn't help you one bit. In fact it makes you look weak and foolish, but go ahead it amuses me.
1) don't make up lies
2) people can read just fine the thread itself
3) I can't refute here anything if I'm not even arguing?
4) "rebuted by a few posters" = you and the guy you called lol1,You mean don't state things based upon your own experiences because when you do someone will try and use it to insult you.
2.Yes they can and most see the same thing, 1 person resorting to insult to anyone that disagrees with them.
You can't because have no counter argument and thus resort to insults.
I didn't call anyone in but you obviously did and you like a few other posters seem to want to follow me around just to try and insult me. Did I rebut any of your posts that badly that you'd resort to such trolly behavior?
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@RagingCalm said:
Can we PLEASE get a mod in here to lock the thread?^^^^^
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@Global @SnakeSound222 It's funny you both say survivors just want to bully the killer, so I'll ask you both the same thing. Where do you get your information from, where's the data backing up your claims? Have you both talked to every single survivor and or swf player out there to back up your claims?
I know for a fact that when I play swf I'm doing so to have fun with my friends, to laugh at our mistakes and the killers. To try and out mind game the killer by juking one way then another and then cringing when we run into a dead end. When the game is over if the killer wasn't a total jerk we say gg and congratulate them.
The simple fact is most players on both sides just want to have fun, there'll always be toxic jerks in any community and on both sides. Most are just casual players trying to have fun and no at ranks 1-5 it isn't a toxic fest at least on pc.
In fact most of my games have been really cool and I've had way more toxic solo q players at those ranks than swf. I've been griefed and or sandbagged more times by a solo q player who wanted that the Hex totem. Someone who didn't want anyone else on that gen, or didn't want to get downed so led the killer to someone else.
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@TheHourMan said:
Lordtobirama666 said:See I don't want the game unbalanced I feel the killers should have a little more of a advantage because hell there killers but some people just go overboard on how they want the killers to be pretty much unbeatable where the survivor's never live
The spelling, grammar and complete lack of punctuationin this one gave me a stroke to read. But no most killers just want their skill to actually matter. As it is now, a perfect killer will ALWAYS lose against perfect survivors. 100% of the time, no exceptions.
See this is where ppl get the insult whiny entitled killer mains from, I mean here you start off by insulting the posters grammar and punctuation. Then you go onto throw out the usual perfect survivors win 100% of the time nonsense.
This is why I talk about extremists and insulters on both sides of the issue, they can't let their own personal bias stop for one second in their posts. They also can't resist throwing out completely made up facts just to make their point either.
I've been in games at rank 1-2 where no one made any mistakes at all, the killer just flat out played better. But to you that doesn't happen because the facts don't fit your narrative. Do you actually have hard data to prove your data point argument? Where did you get the data and where are the sources proving your claims?
The person you're quoting made valid points in their post and what was the 1st thing you did in response? You insulted them. You then went on to offer you opinion of what most killers want, but then threw out the usual made up stuff.
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@Runiver said:
@Lordtobirama666 said:
All you hear is killers crying all the time how there super underpowered and the survivor's are overpowered which is absolutely incorrect every dedicated killer just wants to turn the game into them winning every single match with no effort at all instead of just getting better at the game why does no one seem to want this game balanced at all ?Yet another "non-argument topic"
"You just want to win every rounds" isn't an argument. It's a statement, and it's a false one.True and sadly both sides extremists do this to insult the other side. Most people want a fun game that also can give them a good scare. Well occasionally a good scare since having a Myers sneakily stalk you and never be noticed is enough in 1 game.
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If you got an error message saying that there was a data error and any progress might be lost if you continued and did so anyways. That'd explain a lot but as @ceridwen309 said what are the specs etc.
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Do you have any screenshots sicn I'm not aware you could get onto the tractor.
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@etms51 said:
Description: Currently the game if you're Amanda which she puts the reverse bear trap at the head of the survivors, and if there is a survivor in the map with the trap in the head, can safely exit the trap.
My idea is to limit this functionality in which if a survivor has a trap in his head is that it is active, when it goes into the hatch area, must activate the trap and immediately kill the survivor as those of the exit gates, is only that to survive the survivor must surely go to remove the trap and get out of the hatchThe issue is that if you're last person alive with say 1 gen left to power, you can't power the gen without killing yourself. also if you're the last survivor and have a trap and have to play by your idea the pig will just follow you just far enough away . That way they don't trigger the trap chase timer pause but instead let you get blown up instead.
If you get to close to a box they either chase you and down you or get you off the box. The end result is going to be the same, the pig gets a kill no matter what.
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@Nightmare247 said:
What if the Devs created 5 (or so) specific perks for use in the 5th slot only? They could not be accessed in the bloodweb all players no matter what had them, but they can be selected as a build out, but only go in the 5th slot.
I had a few ideas. 1. Increased Gen Regression speed. (I don't think this is noticeable in a game to a killer maybe 5-10% faster) 2. A blood point multiplier that would trigger at the end of the trial. 3. Pallet reduction (remove 2-3 randomly) I don't think many would notice that. 4. Window Boards (a few windows would appear cutting off an escape route) 5. The random status effect when hooked that enabled when unhooked (survivors could get blindness, exhaustion, exposed, hindered, mangled).
The last one was a bit more than I was looking for, but it was a start. Then at the end of the game it would be revealed as the 5th perk activated only for the bp.
1st idea is actually quite nice but should the killer know it's been activated or not be told until after the game is over? Since unless the effect is hidden they'll know pretty quickly. Perhaps the 5 specific perks with no noticeable effect to the killer is a good idea.
The few ideas isn't bad, the 5% -10% regression speed wouldn't be noticeable to either side so survivors would have to risk tapping the gen. The extra bp is something that's been bandied about and most have no problem with it. Pallet reduction is a tricky one because it might take the 3 safe pallets and leave the survivors completely screwed. Perhaps a tweak of some kind on that one or leave it be for now.
The windows thing would be more easily solved by getting rid of some of the infinite spots (BARN !!!!) while perhaps removing some of the obstacles that allow endless looping. But give them more LOS blockers and places to evade properly after removal of infinites spots. The 5th would be really problematic.
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@Brawler said:
@powerbats said:
@Ihatelife said:
Please, play against the amazing SWF with their 4 DS,SC,SB and adrenaline at rank 1Yes because every game is a full 4 man swf group and ever single one they all run DS, SC, SB and AD at rank 1. It's almost as if you pulled numbers out of thin air again as usual to back up your claims. Well that's just one pic that blows your histrionics out of the water.
I don't know why did you cover the chat
. Anyway, it is not told that you can't get 4k on rank 1, because it is possible, even playing against SWF. The majority of players on that rank are usually SWF or people that can cooperate with the best perks and that are repairing the generators really quickly.I covered chat because name and shame rules still apply and I only posted it because the person I responded to was posting complete nonsense again. At that rank it's not mostly swf but people that know what they're doing on both sides.
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
@Orion said:
It's not known exactly which Killers were tortured, but one look at Evan should tell you at least one of them was. Those hooks and skin mutilations didn't get there by themselves...The Entity would want long trials. Gotta make the Survivor feel like they've got a chance, even if they don't.
But for some reason the Entity gives the survivors the power to end the game in less than 5 minutes. GG lol
Well the Entity does get amusement from things not going as planned so perhaps it gets enjoyment from the suffering of both sides. Someone gets tunneled and feels hopeless it enjoys it. Watching the killer get upset because the survivor got away, it gets amused.
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@Nightmare247 said:
You bring up some excellent points. Map balance would be a huge benefit to both sides. If you have better maps, less infinite loop spots, maybe more window/doors versus pallets you could start to remove Bloodlust, but that is a different topic. I have seen an increase in actually playing against each other (mindgames, decision making) versus sprint burst to the ironworks and loop 15 times over.
Agreed, the tile changes on Autohaven were nice, but some spots like barn really need a good nerf bat.
While I suggested the 5th perk, I understand the balance around that, but you cannot really balance around voice comms either. While I said before that I do not find it cheating, it was not intended for gameplay. That is why there are no internal game voice comms and very little emotes to provide information. Then it becomes how do you counter something that is not cheating, that there is no AntiVoice system and that is outside of your control, in the game? That comes down to one of two responses....Do you take something away (punish) users even if they are not using voice (perk, add-on, extra generator, etc) or do you increase the other side to improve their performance? Either way, one side is already unbalanced so how do you make that whole again?
The way to balance is to improve maps so if you improve the maps you can then tweak killers easier. But you also will probably need to change/remove some perks on both sides. Perhaps give the killer something t help them versus swf only but without telling them it's a buff. That way they don't know who's who until after the game
For the killer, you don't have much you can do. You cannot increase his/her power. Making 1 time instant downs is way too powerful. You could run a random add-on, but that could help/hinder a killer. Could you increase the speed? but again that could be unfair if there are any solo players. What is the best we could do? I think my 5th add-on suggestion was not a poor one. It allows the killer to choose what the add-on is. Just make it a default slot calling out SWF 5th perk or something. This can be the killers choice. Sure it may unbalance the game. A killer could run Ruin, Nurse, Whispers, BBQ + Franklin's/Make Your choice and that could steamroll a team. But remember a killer has to catch the survivors before the generators go off. (PLEASE DON'T SUGGEST ADDING MORE TIME TO GENERATORS) So they are fighting against a clock.
I think a 5th slot could work but there'd have to be limitations on what you could do with it to make it not completely game breaking. because then you'd have to either remove/rework it or nerf the killers. If they can ever get to where it's more about stealth and actual evasion swf won't be such a huge issue.
Because then it becomes a game of hide and seek and you can buff killers at that point to be really scary no matter who're they're against. Similar to how Hide or die works, even with groups the killer has advantages.