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@bloxe said:
powerbats said:All these other ones you refer to all have MASSIVE player bases to them.
But he didnt refer to any game.
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I used the same generality they did and your confused by me doing this but not them why now? Below is the 2 posts right above mine that you couldn't have missed. So how did you miss their generality for games but somehow noticed it in mine?
@CrowS said:
@Wahara said:
They say that it will increase lobby times by splitting the player base in half, but that seems to be overstated.Every other competitive game can get away with this. I'm sure dead by daylight will live.
I'm with @Wahara every other competitive gaming community seems to do fine with this, why is it a problem for DBD?
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You can just leave the chat as well but I believe on console there's an option to do something like that. I don't let it bother me since a lot of times it's just ppl blowing off steam and for the toxic ones there's the report button.
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@CrowS said:
@Wahara said:
They say that it will increase lobby times by splitting the player base in half, but that seems to be overstated.Every other competitive game can get away with this. I'm sure dead by daylight will live.
I'm with @Wahara every other competitive gaming community seems to do fine with this, why is it a problem for DBD?
All these other ones you refer to all have MASSIVE player bases to them.
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@HatCreature said:
@powerbats said:
@HatCreature said:
This is a good build and it's mostly what I use on my stealth build but I've been using Stakeout instead of Balanced. It's like a haha to the killer when I can just absorb those tokens and then dish them out on those Gens, also since they're Great skill checks it's more points, or so I believe. If that's not true I'm probably never using it again.Anyway, Jeff's new perk that blocks your aura would also be a great one for stealth since BBQ & Chili is so popular. Another stealth build I use is Urban Evasion, Lithe, Quick & Quiet, and Dance With Me, I can sneak by and if I'm caught I can use those windows to run around jungle gyms and disappear again.
I totally forgot about Stakeout since I used that before I got Deliverance and it's a great solo perk, stockpile 4 tokens killer has Ruin just lol your way through it. I'd literally follow killers around in a chase sometimes to get tokens.
You mean Diversion? I love throwing that pebble, it's hilarious to see it actually work.
diversion is great, especially against Wraiths and even Billy's.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
If you read my next comment, I also spoke about how killers would do it to survivors too. I'm not oblivious to the fact that both sides "LOL"d each other without giving any responses.
However, there are alot of survivor main forum trolls like the OchiDO fanboy and a few others I won't name. They never had anything valuable to say and just LOL'd every post that asked for killer buffs.
Apologies I missed that next part and yes the he who shall not be named fan club is beyond belief and I'm sure the mods took out a lot of them and they finally got the hint. The others yes there's about 5 or so on each side I won't name and shame but they literally follow around to troll.
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@HatCreature said:
This is a good build and it's mostly what I use on my stealth build but I've been using Stakeout instead of Balanced. It's like a haha to the killer when I can just absorb those tokens and then dish them out on those Gens, also since they're Great skill checks it's more points, or so I believe. If that's not true I'm probably never using it again.Anyway, Jeff's new perk that blocks your aura would also be a great one for stealth since BBQ & Chili is so popular. Another stealth build I use is Urban Evasion, Lithe, Quick & Quiet, and Dance With Me, I can sneak by and if I'm caught I can use those windows to run around jungle gyms and disappear again.
I totally forgot about Stakeout since I used that before I got Deliverance and it's a great solo perk, stockpile 4 tokens killer has Ruin just lol your way through it. I'd literally follow killers around in a chase sometimes to get tokens.
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@Avariku said:
I would support that especially with all the profits they probably get from DLC and cosmetics... but at the same time... the game isn't terribly expensive as it is.Yes but the profits from the DLC and cosmetics help pay for more hirings which helps them produce a better product and now dedicated servers. If they go FTP they'd have to go PTW like most of the other games out here where it's all about buying stuff that helps you skip ahead.
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@Hibbsan said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
How about you just go back to playing the game. Because we all know good and well as much as you ######### talk this game you most likely will still be waking up in the morning to play it.Feel free to point out where i trash talked the game? Not even once did i say anything about the game being bad. I'm talking trash to the developers for failing to actually show the game well on TGA to get new players.
You obviously missed all my tongue sticking out emotes that I purposely put in there as SARCASM so that people would know I was joking.
My comment was more directed at the actual trolls in various threads bashing them just to bash them usually because they HATE McCote.
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@Raccoon said:
Reduce Hatch BP to 5K, give the Killer the "bonus" 2K.Survivor escapes, Killer gets compensation, everyone's a wiener.
This would also provide a hefty incentive to "hit it and forget it" during a Hatch standoff.
Great idea and I'd love for the devs to consider this since it'd answer a lot of complaints.
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
How about you just go back to playing the game. Because we all know good and well as much as you ######### talk this game you most likely will still be waking up in the morning to play it.Logic bomb hits and it's very effective all trolls arguments are instantly destroyed. 😜😜😜😜😜😜
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.
I'm going to give you a very big LOL in size 5000 font if i could get it to fit for that nonsense since it wasn't just survivor mains but killer mains doing it as well.
If you honestly think only one side was doing it then there's nothing that could be said to help you, you're like the emperor with no clothes being told you're not wearing any clothes.
I never had an issue with people doing it to me and I'm pretty sure I know who my haters were so to speak that followed me around. I actually got a laugh out of them doing it as if they actually believed it affected me any which by the way it didn't.
I took lols as badges of honor and found amusement in them and so they never bothered me and it gave me great amusement that they'd think it did. Now as others have said the trolls will have to actually post something. While BHVR always knew who was doing it they could hide themselves from the forum, now that's not an option anymore.
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PremoAre all great choices and BL is good if off on something with a 2nd or 3rd story but on say the Coldwind maps except for Thompson house it's pretty worthless.
Quick and Quiet is really nice if you need to hop in and out of a locker quick or do a vault and not make noise but it'll still leave the scratch marks.
Lightweight is also really good in case you need to make a run since your scratch marks are visible for 1/2/3 seconds less than normal.
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Yeah apparently the trolls thought they were being cute and went overboard and now they've literally LOL'D themselves out of their favorite tool.
Sadly you can't lol a post you found to be funny I.E. good memes, jokes etc.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
Yes you heard that right they're bringing out dedicated servers.Second time I hear this now, where did you get this from?
Also they anounced all sorts of stuff already but then didnt hold their word
edit, never mind saw peanits link
Yeah I didn't put the link in since it was at top of page but stuff kinda gets lost up there.
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@Jed said:
Lol at the time huh..like how you add that in now. And no...you can look up my past comments if you want because nobody would answer my question when I was asking it. Looking at all your comments here tells me you must of been one of these people who thought they were so right in saying DBD doesn't need or cant have servers. It's ok to say you were wrong hehe.
No, I said that at the time as did other i didn't just add that in, now you're just making stuff up to make yourself look better.
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@Jed said:
powerbats said:@Jed said:
Hehe I wonder why they are doing this...hmm to make the game better? Sorry..it wasnt that long ago I remember arguing with some people on these forums about dedicated servers. I guess this announcement just proves my point hehe.
The points some of were arguing about were that it wasn't a panacea that would solve everything which quite a few didn't seem to understand. There was also the cost and that it took time to get everything in place yet people all thought it should happen immediately.
Then you have to realize that to change it from P@P to dedicated servers requires an immense code rewrite from the ground up, that doesn't just magically happen. Hence the console optimizations that're coming and why it's not happening until summer 2019.
Ok sure but I kept asking why do people ask for dedicated servers and why do most competitive AAA games have them if they are worse. Nobody would answer and just kept suggesting dedicated servers would be no good or not necessary for DBD. Well this announcement proves they are wrong hehe.
Actually most of us that gave good responses explained as I did many times why it wasn't feasible at the time and why it wasn't a panacea. To say that nobody would answer is being dishonest at worst and completely ignorant/oblivious on the other.
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@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
Gee it's almost as if all Doctor players didn't choose Gideons and his ultra rare and very rare addons all the time anyways. I mean good grief talk about histrionics it's not like he doesn't have madness illusion addons or anything like that.You'd think that most Doctors don't run Distressing, UP etc and don't pay attention to people screaming, or the big illusion saying oh they're over here.
I assume UP=Unnerving Presence?
Correct, I always see Doctors run that, Distressing, M&A and then either BBQ/FD for a bunch of 1 item/Sloppy if it's P3's/lots of medkits/Whispers again P3 outfits but no items really/bitter Murmur.
It's rare to see a Doctor ever running Nurses because any good survivors won't heal in his terror radius let alone try and snap out of it.anyways
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Gee it's almost as if all Doctor players didn't choose Gideons and his ultra rare and very rare addons all the time anyways. I mean good grief talk about histrionics it's not like he doesn't have madness illusion addons or anything like that.
You'd think that most Doctors don't run Distressing, UP etc and don't pay attention to people screaming, or the big illusion saying oh they're over here.
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@Raptorrotas said:
powerbats said:@RotBb said:
The hatch is the survivor NOED. “Oh NOED is a crutch, nerf it!” Why isn’t the hatch a crutch when it rewards a bad survivor for their poor performance? Can we at least get a rework? Add anything to balance this, please.
Yes because it's the survivors fault they powered enough gens to spawn this and it's the survivors fault if they actually find it. It's also the survivors fault if they find it 1st and actually can get in without being grabbed.
Also how is a survivor that worked on gens, did totems, unhooks etc being rewarded for bad performance again?
The killers totem can be cleansed if all 5 totems are destroyed thus preventing NOED, the killer by comparison can sacrifice all 4 survivors thus preventing the hatch from coming into play. They can keep gens from being powered enough to spawn the hatch.
The killer can watch for someone camping the hatch, they can hook someone near the hatch, they can actually hunt that last person down.
I just wantvto point out that you're conparing 5 stationary objects in mostly predetermined locations to 4 moving players with uncertain positioning and probably no interest in getting "cleansed". Additionally totems are a secondary/optional objective while the survivors are the main objectives.
So 5 stationary objects that each have several different spawn locations that most good survivors will look for because they no what can happen if they don't. I guess all the NOED is a crutch perk and nerf NOED posts are all illusions on the forum then.
Since those are all by newer players or those not so good players that don't know what can happen or don't think it will and it does anyways. Thus they come here and post said illusionary and imaginary threads while not looking for the stationary objects int their games.
Also each map has 3 predetermined locations the hatch can spawn and it chooses one of those 3 stationary locations to spawn said hatch. Now most of the really experienced killers have those locations memorized just as they do totem locations.
So the killer knowing this can check those stationary totem spawns and quite often find a survivor trying to cleanse it, if it's a hex the chances go even higher. The killer also knowing where a hatch is likely to spawn cna patrol near that or chase a survivor by changing their angle to maneuver a survivor through an area.
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For me knowing where the hatch is a rarity and it's only when we've gotten enough gens done like 3-5 gens done and it spawns because say 4 gens are done. There's 3 of you left and you're roaming around both looking for it and also making sure all the totems are dead.
But most of the time I stumble across it usually with the killer chasing me and it's like oh that's where it is but now killer will make a beeline right for it. The other times the killer even if they've never chased anyone enar where it spawns knows exactly where it's at.
When i'm killer it's the same as survivor I just stumble on it during routine patrolling or chasing someone so it's not a freebie for me.
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@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
@PigNRun said:
@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
@Attackfrog said:
As a killer, if survivors can't blame me for their ping/latency anymore, does this mean survivors and killers will finally get along!?For most it'll improve things, while for some others it'll make things bit a worse and the ones that're going to hate it the most are the lag switchers, the hackers etc.
I wonder what the people who blame the Killer for their own crappy connection will say now...
"Killers are DDoSing the servers! Thats why I died!"
Sounds about right.
I'm sure that'll be both sides doing it because both sides have people that can't admit their potato skills are just that potato skills.
Only one side has had to deal with being the host, just saying.
That's true but both sides suffer when one side lags badly and if the host does it screws everyone and same for one survivor screwing the other survivors over.
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So you get an ad spot during the super bowl and get given 30 seconds, do you blah blah blah about new game modes which the only ones that'll care are your current player base. No you showcase both the current product along with the upcoming one to get newer players interested.
Besides for your current player base you just announced dedicated servers and it doesn't even cost you a thing. It's like hey they announced something we want and it's free but we wanted more.
Oh by the way screw trying to entice newer players instead tell us more that you'll announce during a devstream anyways.
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@Orion said:
@PigNRun said:
@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
@Attackfrog said:
As a killer, if survivors can't blame me for their ping/latency anymore, does this mean survivors and killers will finally get along!?For most it'll improve things, while for some others it'll make things bit a worse and the ones that're going to hate it the most are the lag switchers, the hackers etc.
I wonder what the people who blame the Killer for their own crappy connection will say now...
"Killers are DDoSing the servers! Thats why I died!"
Sounds about right.
I'm sure that'll be both sides doing it because both sides have people that can't admit their potato skills are just that potato skills.
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@Attackfrog said:
@powerbats said:
@Attackfrog said:
As a killer, if survivors can't blame me for their ping/latency anymore, does this mean survivors and killers will finally get along!?For most it'll improve things, while for some others it'll make things bit a worse and the ones that're going to hate it the most are the lag switchers, the hackers etc.
Living in CA, I have never had a problem with my connection, but there have been many times I have been blamed for lag switching, poor ping etc lol.
I am glad they are finally doing this. It's a good sign for the longevity of the game (plus it gives survivors one less thing to blame me for...)
Cali here as well, and mine's usually pretty good especially as a host there's still the occasional hiccup you get on both sides. But I've had killers say they're internet is bad is why the game got laggy and not them lag switching. This despite it only happening during a chase and always for 5-10 seconds and then it'd go back to normal once the person was downed.
Also to those saying it's only the survivors bad skills and not lag switching or the killers bad internet you look really foolish. Both sides have bad connections as well as good connections.
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Use PWYF, Profit.
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@Attackfrog said:
As a killer, if survivors can't blame me for their ping/latency anymore, does this mean survivors and killers will finally get along!?For most it'll improve things, while for some others it'll make things bit a worse and the ones that're going to hate it the most are the lag switchers, the hackers etc.
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@se05239 said:
@powerbats said:
@se05239 said:
@powerbats said:
Yes you heard that right they're bringing out dedicated servers.Like.. actually? Truly? FOR REAL?
Yes they confirmed it on the game awards earlier and top of page @not_Queen also confirmed it.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33798/dedicated-servers-coming-summer-2019#latest
And here I thought they'd never bother since it always was "too much effort".
You totally ignored all the other reasons why it wasn't feasible at the time people were demanding it.
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@EntityDispleased said:
Have they mentioned anything about server locations? I live in North Africa and I either connect to West or north eu with 80-130 ping depending on the day. If I'm gonna have to endure delays and lag as killer I might just not play at all.They haven't yet but as it gets closer probably February or March you'll see them discuss it but they'll probably have regional servers same as League of Legends and Overwatch do.
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@RotBb said:
The hatch is the survivor NOED. “Oh NOED is a crutch, nerf it!” Why isn’t the hatch a crutch when it rewards a bad survivor for their poor performance? Can we at least get a rework? Add anything to balance this, please.Yes because it's the survivors fault they powered enough gens to spawn this and it's the survivors fault if they actually find it. It's also the survivors fault if they find it 1st and actually can get in without being grabbed.
Also how is a survivor that worked on gens, did totems, unhooks etc being rewarded for bad performance again?
The killers totem can be cleansed if all 5 totems are destroyed thus preventing NOED, the killer by comparison can sacrifice all 4 survivors thus preventing the hatch from coming into play. They can keep gens from being powered enough to spawn the hatch.
The killer can watch for someone camping the hatch, they can hook someone near the hatch, they can actually hunt that last person down.
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@se05239 said:
@powerbats said:
Yes you heard that right they're bringing out dedicated servers.Like.. actually? Truly? FOR REAL?
Yes they confirmed it on the game awards earlier and top of page @not_Queen also confirmed it.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33798/dedicated-servers-coming-summer-2019#latest
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@Jed said:
Hehe I wonder why they are doing this...hmm to make the game better? Sorry..it wasnt that long ago I remember arguing with some people on these forums about dedicated servers. I guess this announcement just proves my point hehe.The points some of were arguing about were that it wasn't a panacea that would solve everything which quite a few didn't seem to understand. There was also the cost and that it took time to get everything in place yet people all thought it should happen immediately.
Then you have to realize that to change it from P@P to dedicated servers requires an immense code rewrite from the ground up, that doesn't just magically happen. Hence the console optimizations that're coming and why it's not happening until summer 2019.
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I have to laugh when my 1st 3 vote responses on the dedicated servers announcement 1 was an lol. I'm trying to figure out which one of my haters/trolls put it there.
I just laugh when they do it thinking it actually means anything t me, if they're trying to troll me I take it as a badge of honor.
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@Arsoul said:
@Peanits said:
@Might_Oakk said:
Wonder if its all platforms? I know when For Honor switched from p2p to servers it was just on PC for a long time. With how much bhvr seems to care about console I'm abit worried.It's all platforms.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33798/dedicated-servers-coming-summer-2019/p1?new=1
muhahaha
pwnedMore like bam you've been Peanited™ !!!!!!
Now here's to @Peanits who's had a saying named after him and trademarked. 😁
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@LordGlint said:
Vietfox said:Kinda off topic: was i the only doctor not running NC?
No, I only just recently got NC. Still though, even if not using it... The threat of it can change survivor gameplay.
Anyone that knew how to play wouldn't try and snap out of it within his terror radius anyways because the skill check windows would be smaller. There was also the fact that all he had to do was get you within his terror radius and you'd probably jump up and scream interrupting it if he's in treatment mode.
I never ran it on him because of those reasons, it wasn't worth the perk slot for the drawbacks.
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@derfiesegehörnte said:
Macht langsam keinen Spass mehr als Überlebender rumzurennen! Immer mehr Buffs für Killer! ROTZE!Slowly make fun of running over as a survivor! More and more buffs for killer! Snot!
They are fixing their game but it's not going to happen quickly othererwise the changes would cause more issues.
As for your complaint about killer buffs, they're long overdue and really not that hard to adjust too.
Sie reparieren ihr Spiel, aber es wird nicht so schnell passieren, ansonsten würden die Änderungen mehr Probleme verursachen.
Ihre Beschwerde über Killerbuffs ist längst überfällig und auch nicht allzu schwer zu korrigieren. -
@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats Anyway… you have to do your calculations anew. 52.8% instead of 30%.Ok, Ill redo it then sigh I'd gone through so many recalculations of that to make sure it was right fml haha. But on the positive side at least I don't have t calculate cross platform play numbers.
I do still wonder however how long the data set was for and whether it was during an event or FTP time frame since both will really skew the numbers.
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@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
I believe that's the one where the stats came from possibly but @Orion knows for sure.Perhaps they know which one exactly and where the exact stats everyone has been referencing since around 7 or so months ago.
You overestimate my memory.
LIES !!!!!!! and besides I'm the old decrepit fossil here so my memory is the worser of the pair of us, 😜
I have ADD. If I'm off my Ritalin, I can literally forget what I'm saying mid-sentence. This becomes very obvious during my streams.
I think I've got AHAD or w/e it's called or was it Aspergers my oldest has it as well. I'm still a handsome old devil though. I even come with my own built in deviousness so no need to ever put an offering up. 😁
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@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
I believe that's the one where the stats came from possibly but @Orion knows for sure.Perhaps they know which one exactly and where the exact stats everyone has been referencing since around 7 or so months ago.
You overestimate my memory.
LIES !!!!!!! and besides I'm the old decrepit fossil here so my memory is the worser of the pair of us, 😜
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I believe that's the one where the stats came from possibly but @Orion knows for sure.
Perhaps they know which one exactly and where the exact stats everyone has been referencing since around 7 or so months ago.
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@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats Do you have a link to that stream? My last info was ~50% of all survivor are playing SWF and after that info they did not show a whole lot of stats anymore. So we need to stick to the old stats and have to believe they still hold true until proven otherwise.Yeah I kept the link because no one could remember it except for a few and I got the dates mixed up, it's from October 2017 apparently.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/1489987634004297840/?ctp=2
This below was my response in a different thread trying to head off more the devs have spoken so my side is correct flame wars again. It basically arose off of the as I said extreme survivor side people saying the devs stat prove that survival rate is below 50%.
But if the stats are skewed due to an event of any kind they're not really relevant for the discussions as well as 2 weeks isn't a lot of data. If it was 6 months to a years worth that'd be different. That would of course not include event since that skews it along with free to play times.
The escape stats aren't the end all because we don't have a complete data breakdown by any of the following metrics.
By rank (Both killer and survivor rank as well as average for survivors)
By time of day
By region (if this is still meaningful)
By groups solo, 1 duo, 2 duo's, 3 or 4 man swf etc.
Was this an exit gate escape or hatch escape.
For the above if it was hatch how many gens were left.
Did someone dc/crash on either side?
Did the killer let 1 or more escape either via gate or hatch?
Did people just suicide either on hook or to the killer (example the Halloween event is a perfect one)You'd really need those and the breakdown in each of those within the other categories as well.
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@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats said:
Actually it's not a myth since even when there hasn't been an even like recently and before the ptb killers have complained about long lobby wait times.
You're correct about survives being the vast majority of the player base but it's already been shown that only 30% as of the last data point is solo q only. That's only partially correct in and of itself since some of those solo players also play SWF as well.
Where did you get that number from?
Last time the Devs showed stats it was less than 50% survivor playing SWF.
70% of all lobbies contain "some sort" of Swf, but only (actually less than) 50% of all survivor join lobbies via the Swf option, including people that join solo, but click Swf anyway.
So I do not understand where your 30% calculation come from, but any further calculations from there are doomed to be flawed.That was the dev stream stats from December 2017 and the most recent dev stream they didn't explain if the 2 week time frame included the Halloween event or not. Which if it did would've heavily skewed the data due to ppl suiciding to killer after harvesting nectar. It also would've been all the ppl playing killer so much and not getting lobbies for so long.
But also killers taking far longer to get their vials via way more matches during the 2nd week of the event. Again if this is where they got the numbers you referenced the survivors survival rate being under 50% is also highly suspect.
@Orion and I discussed the stats possibly being flawed in another thread and i broken down all the categories in a different thread how it'd be skewed. Which if they are the extremist on the survivor side which are calling for no killer buffs due to survival rate being under 50% which would be false.
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@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats said:
@bloxe said:
ShrimpTwiggs said:This would increase lobby times for both sides.
I'd wait half an hour gladly if I knew I would be going only against solo survivors.
You'd be waiting for a lot longer than that, more likely hours as in several hours in a row since the player base of solo players isn't that big. There's already been killers over the last few months complaining about lobby wait times.
And here we go again… the myth of the lack of survivor.
Killer Lobbys got longer, but the reason is most likely NOT a lack of survivor.
Survivor are still the vast majority of all Dbd player.
From former experience with BHVR we can rightfully expect, that they messed up the MM again with the last event patch.
That's when it got the worst and only got a little bit better after the event.
And they are a already about to release a new MM system, so my guess is, they don't bother fixing the current one.
But still survivor jump on that and claim a loss of survivor player to encourage more buffs to survivor.Actually it's not a myth since even when there hasn't been an even like recently and before the ptb killers have complained about long lobby wait times.
You're correct about survives being the vast majority of the player base but it's already been shown that only 30% as of the last data point is solo q only. That's only partially correct in and of itself since some of those solo players also play SWF as well.
But using that 30% of the player base and going off that we can also assume that 60k (pc only) at peak give or take that one time is a good number to use. Now assuming it's a 4 to 1 ratio of survivors to killers that means there's 12, 000 killers out there.
Now that's 12k killers fighting over 18k survivors and that's assuming those 18k survivors are actually only playing solo q and not SWF like some probably will be doing. But lets assume for this arguments sake that all 18k are indeed playing solo only.
Since it's a 4v1 ratio that means there's way too many killers since there's not enough survivors then to go around. If we take the 99% of all killers argument it still doesn't add up since there's still way too many killers.
That's 11, 880 killers fighting over just 18k survivors which means a lot of killers are going to get screwed out of matches. Due to the 4v1 ratio your lobby wait times will be in the hours timeframe. Now if we throw in the variable of survivors playing SWF as well as Solo some of those 18k survivors aren't going to be playing solo. which means your available pool of people just dropped even more.
Some other numbers that can be used again PC only here let's assume that only 6k of al killers or 50% would choose to go solo only. Now using that as a baseline the only way no killer would get screwed is if the game was a 3v1 since that'd cover the 18k completely.
This would mean killers would have to get tweaked and so would solo q all separately, all taking time from further game development and also quite a bit of money to please a minority.
Now to further put the proverbial nail in the coffin do you honestly think that solo q survivors are going to want an extended lobby wait time if there's not enough killers? No, they'll either choose to play SWF thus lowering your player pool even more.They'll also clamor for an option to queue up with SWF lobbies so they get faster lobby times.
So again you're not going to get what you expect and instead quite the opposite you'll get longer lobby wait times. The solo people who're left are going to be the hardcore types. They're going to be the swat team types that're even more difficult to play against because they know what to do.
In fact you can't use their teamwork mentality against them the same way you can against a swf group. To really put this into perspective you think those hardcore types won't do what they currently do in solo q lobbies?
The really experienced players at rank 1 quite often post Discord info for that match, I've never joined since i'd prefer not to take the chance at getting flamed. But that's what you'll get because the solo people will know the ones that opt out can't handle it.
For them it'll be like ringing the free win here button because the ones that want solo only lobbies want an easier time. The ones that stay for the SWF want the challenge and also because they know how to face them.
No matter how you try and spin this it doesn't work out for the killers wanting solo lobbies, but if all of you really want this then commit to it. You agree if they make this you'll be forever stuck in a solo lobby only system. You can never as a killer queue up against anything but solo q even if you find the wait times suck you got what you asked for.
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@bloxe said:
powerbats said:You'd be waiting for a lot longer than that, more likely hours as in several hours in a row since the player base of solo players isn't that big. There's already been killers over the last few months complaining about lobby wait times.
Survivors would probably go solo more often than now, duh.
Why would they do that if they're already playing SWF to begin with? I play both modes depending on if my friends can even play or not and other times like today and yesterday I've not really played. So logic and common sense would say they're not going to suddenly change their play habits just because it fits your narrative.
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@Attackfrog said:
This sounds like something a typical survivor main disguised as a killer main disguised as a survivor main disguised as a killer main would say!
Nobody can be trusted!
The truth is out there Alexa play X-files theme music
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He's been freed from the Nether Regions™ aka his real life to come and play with us now. 😁
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@DarkWo1f997 said:
Pierre said:Guys we must discuss this in a calm and civil manner or the Devs won't take us seriously.
It won’t work. You’re basically throwing a textbook at a bunch of savages. They’ll just get mad, make monkey noises and burn your village to the ground.
In all seriousness just leave it be. The less people are paying attention to them the less severe it is
That was epic and almost made me choke on my coffee I was laughing so hard.
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No since she's not physically there anymore and thus you wouldn't be blinding her in actuality. Now if she's mind gaming you which I as a Spirit love to do sometimes you've just given her a free hit.
One funny thing you can actually do is drop a pallet on her husk which instantly gets rid of it if she's actually phasing but not moving and thus stun her.
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@KiraElijah said:
True, but why no IP bans?
Ip bans don't work anymore and have unintended consequences for say college dorms or apartment buildings that share a an ip. The person in say a dorm gets their entire dorm ip banned instead of their individual subnet address.
The person in the house can just reset their router/modem or unplug it and wait a few minutes and voila it boots up and gives you a new one. There's also the software route where you simply use the system command and do it.
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@bloxe said:
ShrimpTwiggs said:This would increase lobby times for both sides.
I'd wait half an hour gladly if I knew I would be going only against solo survivors.
You'd be waiting for a lot longer than that, more likely hours as in several hours in a row since the player base of solo players isn't that big. There's already been killers over the last few months complaining about lobby wait times.
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@Attackfrog said:
@powerbats said:
@Attackfrog said:
@Rebel_Raven said:
Lol
Any plans on how to make this happen, and what the rules might be?I can about guarentee every bad idea we see sounds like a good one to someone.
Yes! This forum is like an awesome reality show...only instead of involving some botoxed baby weight disasters who sip mimosas and pop Xanax like it's tic-tacs, it involves players of a fairly lesser known online pvp game.
I love the bickering!
In fairness.though, "killers" are entitled babies that cry for handouts...don't take them seriously!
There I had to fix that for you for fairness and equalities sake. You may now go back to our regularly scheduled forum bashing and entitlement reading. That is depending on which side you're on determines whether it's entitlement or just asking for qol stuff. 😁
Typical survivor rhetoric!
@moderators please ban this fool for crazed lunacy on an internet forum! He/she is off his/her rocker!! We all know killers are underpowered and this fellow seems to believe otherwise!!
Killer main or killer preferred player for last 2 seasons to be more politically correct. 😜
Of course but we can't let on otherwise the forum would go up in flames.😁