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@Viskod said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2070905#Comment_2070905
But the twins don't have any good cosmetics that change the overall appearance. I know, because I looked because i would have bought some. lol.
But we still bought the chapter
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@[Deleted User] said:
It's funny how these has been so much negativity and disappointment and not a peep. What happened to that community person that was here the other day?
Like any other company would have addressed this by now. BHVR is like "got your money, thanks. See ya in the fog!"
They wouldn't do that it's like this one story I heard. about a group of kids asking this "dumb" kid do you want 20 dollars or 1 and every time he said one somebody asked him hey why do you keep saying one? And he responded as soon as I say 20 they will stop asking made 42 dollars off them.
So were the "smart" ones in that story and if they say thanks for the money you think were gonna give again unless it's worth
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2071031#Comment_2071031
Considering how dogmatic he is I'd say it has very much to do with being an obstinate ideologue. And if demanding perfection is any indicator, I would say that the majority of this community does not, in fact, know the strain of COVID and having that much on your plate.
Trickster's concept is a pretty good one; it's easier huntress. Instead of having to land one clean shot, you can split the pain up into multiple different shots. You don't need accuracy anymore, it's a great beginner tool. Hence, he's labeled "easy." Not too shabby. Until they watered down the idea of splitting up the pain with a questionable aiming system and requiring 8 shots when you might as well just M1.
We don't know what kind of feedback the PTB generated. It was pretty "meh," but nobody was out in the streets, torches in hand, like Ghostface caused. Plus, people play differently on the PTB, which probably inflated Trickster's kill rates. BHVR knows that Trickster is weak, even with those figures, but they already delayed it by a week and they were clearly having trouble designing a fix and then implementing it, all the while with testing and tweaking. I'd rather have a bad Trickster in the game than no Trickster at all, as would BHVR, and so they released him in his current state. They'll probably fix him later, or even may be right now.
While I do like perfection I know it is not always possible.
tricksters concept is good but when huntress has a small window to land just 1 hatchet at normal loops Good luck landing 8 or 16.not to mention they decay after it feels like 12s and then 5s for each knife.
Then you get punished for using his power want to be accurate cool tap it too quick and you may have recoil for some reason. Spam it and you go as fast as nurse.
Not to mention we know pc dose better with ranged killers new ranged killer has not only recoil but random recoil so I guess f console players.
And this started out as just wanting a simple answer is he going to receive any changes before ptb. Funny how ignoring feedback has them in this situation and yet they dont say anything about it.
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@Withered8 said:
All these people asking for J-flicks to be removed and now that it might actually be happening, like what is going on? Do people want to vs stridor spirits and forever freddys everygame? First billy gets hurt and now blight? Idk what the obsession is with destroying any killers who are balanced for both sides and fun but if this goes ahead it's going to hurt the game TREMENDOUSLY. J-flicks is probably the most high skilled thing in teh game atm. Contrary to what ppl will tell you, it is NOT easy to play blight, let alone pull of J flicks. If you think it's that easy, then show me just how "easy" it is.
Please do not gut blight, probably the most balanced kilelr for both sides atm.
Wait you guys can flick?
"Every console player"
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@Zozzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2070905#Comment_2070905
I tried him and it seems the devs forgot they made all the new maps anti ranged. There is so much junk to hide behind it isn't funny.
Yea, but hey 110 m1 killer. but at least he is mostly bug free that's what really counts. right?
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@Zozzy said:
Wasn't trixter just an experiment to see just how bad they can make a killer and people still pay for cosmetics?
No that was twins trickster. was the product of that
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@Spill said:
As a survivor main I can confirm that I've wrecked trickster several times with a single 5 gen chase.
It's also kinda sad that no one is playing him. He was just released and I'm already barely getting lobbies with him.
Yea because nobody is enjoying him why hit someone 16 times with something you gave to fight.
When you can play bubba and hit them once with something you have full control over and break pallets with instantly
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@fr0sty1223 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2070772#Comment_2070772
How would any survivor actually escape a chase of semi-infinities were removed? It’s already extremely hard to get away from the killer as is.
I mean use your wits and environment. also you dont have to escape the killer if he dosent start a chase.
on you maybe instead if sitting on the gen until the killer is 5m away from you a bit of stealth could be an option
And if your that unconfident as soon as me looks in the wrong spot run to somewhere good waist their time
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2069721#Comment_2069721
I tried with noed and they broke my totem as soon as end game started 6 games in a row and I was like okay screw that and dropped it haha.
Lol not even noed can make him decent man this killer is so bad
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@Sluzzy said:
They need to wait and look at his stats because I'm sure he is killing well over 2. You need to learn him first. We don't need another episode like Freddy. He throws projectiles so the counterplay is extremely limited. If anything, survivors need to be buffed because most killers are too powerful, such as Blight with Ruin/Tinkerer.
Sweety, that's the perks not the killer and one is a hex that can be cleansed.I know how much the community loves you so please let the adults talk.
Jk still love your bait posts tho pretty funn it's like April fools everyday when you post
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@StibbityStabbity said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2069322#Comment_2069322
Actually, the new Killer CAN be compared to Legion in that the two are unfairly penalized for playing the game normally. Both get power penalties when using M1. In fact, unless I'm missing someone, I think Legion and Trickster are the ONLY two Killers in the game that get power penalties for using M1 (EDIT: Forgot about Ghostface, though that's a biiiiit different). It looks like they reduced it on Trickster, but it's still there.
The point of comparison I was making, however, is that Legion shows that the devs are perfectly fine leaving a Killer in a state where they essentially punish themselves for playing as intended. Legion does just that. Trickster gains rather severe penalties when using his knives despite how weak they are, and is insanely penalized when using Main Event. Similarly, Legion eats a DS every time he shuts off Feral Frenzy, and loses his power charge whenever he uses M1. So ya, I have no reason to think they are going to buff Trickster, because the exact same kinds of problems can be seen on Legion, whom the devs seem to think is perfectly fine and okay. Is Trickster weaker than Legion? Absolutely. Are their shortcomings similar? Well, ya.
Yea at least legion is fun to play that's why you occasionally see them
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@tippy2k2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2068862#Comment_2068862
I gave you a Vote Up but that pun is too good for just a mere Vote Up so here's a quote too. Well done!
I just realized that it is vote up not up vote and I hate it now
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@TAG said:
Why not look from the start and gradually keep track? Why wait more than a month to take a look at the data?
Well considering that technically it has been a month if you include ptb time something is wrong
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@DeadHardMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2070052#Comment_2070052
This is exactly what I want.
Thats basically what everyone wanted but it was all ignored
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@AshleyWB said:
What is the point of the PTB If no changes to the killer are made?
Exactly what I was saying
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@xxshyguyxx said:
I'm confused. With how bad he was during the PTB, why didn't the devs buff him then? Bc I like him. I like his power. I do. I just dont see how anyone can see his power as viable. It needs work.
The somehow made him worse from ptb to live with only qol changes
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You dont you just die inside and wonder what the ######### the devs and almo were thinking when they made this unpolished turd excuse for a chapter
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@Chilli_man2400 said:
Does anybody know who designed and created The Twins and The Trickster. Because I know McLean created the Blight and his power so who created the last 2 killers we got
Not McLean obviously their concepts are good.
but they just butchered it every way possible and no.
I dont think nobody that dosent work at behavior knows it's probably for the best as well
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2069359#Comment_2069359
Again, what else are they supposed to do? In order to make an informed decision, they need information and statistics, which you don't just snap your fingers and conjure out of thin air. Everything takes time, patience is a virtue.
So the ptb was meaningless? Wheres the bad stats from there?
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@[Deleted User] said:
Absolutely.
BHVR is just bad at listening to their community, but they do listen to stats. After a couple weeks of him having like a 0.5 kill rate they will buff him I am sure.
Yea after a month and a half literally almo, the balance director said. I dont look at the stats until like a month and a half after release
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2069244#Comment_2069244
Well that's how you do statistics; you have to give it time for an adequate period of data collection. Whenever you conduct experiments, you don't take results after 5 seconds. We all know that Trickster is bad, we just need to know how bad he is. We don't want another Freddy, I'm sure.
Yea you also don't let something that everyone is saying is garbage sit for a month and a half
And leave the player base wondering if it gonna be changed.
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2069149#Comment_2069149
Don't be so ideological. They have a strict schedule and you can't just rush through a hotfix in a week, without having it be either a buggy mess, woefully overpowered, or both.
Idk apparent they dont look at the new chapter data until a month and a half
https://youtu.be/pWaOyTrOLk8Here's a summary of why I'm so angry
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@Chilli_man2400 said:
Trickster will be buffed next week I guarantee on the 2 hotfixes I think they will buff him
I hope so so unenjoyable and difficult to play on console
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@GodDamn_Angela said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2068337#Comment_2068337
How can you disagree with Main Event being useless most of the time, and when it isn't it's actually a detriment. Think about how much of a time sink it actually is.
You get slower than nurse half way through it on top of not being able throw for like 10s after
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@brokedownpalace said:
They probably won't announce changes till Friday or early next week. If they do it too soon after release it will basically be admitting they already knew he was weak and released him that way despite knowing.
What gave it away the every growing list of complaints about this chapter
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2068294#Comment_2068294
I mean they didn’t really get scammed though. You could see his power in action on the ptb and his power works as intended
All of the newish people that dont know what the ptb is I am a console player and had to explain how to open the ptb to a friend that has had the game for 3 years now
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@Spooky13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2068296#Comment_2068296
You guys are missing the true monster here, Huntress only has to hit a single hatchet for a whole health state and has no recoil! Time to nerf her ASAP. She should need to hit all 5 hatchets for a health state and if you hold it for too long your camera starts swaying cause her arm is getting tired.
No not my ex main dont do her like that the sad part is they would probably do some bull ######### like that when reworking her addons
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@TheArbiter said:
Well if they continue their trend of balancing the previous chapter during the current chapter's midchapter, then I wouldn't expect anything till the 5th anniversary midchapter.
I swear to god if they do this again the community will never let them hear the end of it.
I'm makeing these posts for not only the people that basically got scammed. but for the devs sanity as well
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@RepostRiposte said:
What’s up ladies and germs of the fog, it's that time of year once again.
That’s right, its 𝘿𝙀𝙑 𝘼𝙋𝙋𝙍𝙀𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝘿𝘼𝙔.
So, some of you may be wondering... what exactly is dev appreciation day? Is it some kind of food? Something I can wear on my head? A myth, man, and/or legend?
Well wonder no longer! I’ve come to start a new thread intended solely to house 𝙋𝙊𝙎𝙄𝙏𝙄𝙑𝙀 𝙑𝙄𝘽𝙀𝙎.
So, everyone. Play nice for a change and say some good things about McCote and the crew.
Possible topics of discussion:
- How you got into DBD
- Your favorite killer, survivor, map, etc.
- Feel-good stories
- Most exciting match
- Why you enjoy playing DBB
- Funny moments
- Cosmetic loadouts
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/42AE0NI2IKB6/demopls.gif
Ah ha ha funny april fools joke got me good
Had me until dev apreacation
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@GodDamn_Angela said:
Didn't you hear? He's actually really strong and there is not enough data that proves otherwise. lol
Ah yea mb same power level as t2 only Myers ohh wait Myers is faster with a smaller terror radius time to nerf myers
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@fr0sty1223 said:
All I’m seeing lately from killers is face camping and hard tunneling along with them trying to hold the game hostage and anytime any survivor escapes they start sending messages to every survivor on the team telling them to kill themselves, that they suck, and that they are horrible human beings. It’s gotten to the point where I don’t want to play this game anymore since the killer mains can’t seem to act like anything but 12 year old children that think they deserve everything in the world. It’s even more depressing that this isn’t just happening at the los ranks but at red ranks too as I am a rank 1 survivor and still see this behavior from rank 1 killers constantly.
Jessh sounds bad people can be toxix
but killer can only hold one surivor hostage not the game unless you were somehow trapped in a corner as the last surivor otherwise the survivor is at fault for not doing the gens
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@Yords said:
Yeah, they aren't exactly on their best behavior.
I like that one made me chuckle
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2066602#Comment_2066602
Not true they said they weren't going to make any major changes which is why people told them to just release it and stop delaying then. If they said they would make changes then people would have been willing to wait.
No they still made people wait the extra week they used an excuse of we never gave an official date despite every chapter and mid chapter release 2 weeks after
People said were ok with waiting if they are makeing changes
(they were not and somehow nerfed him)
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@CheesyGuy said:
He will def gonna be buffed. I mean many times when the killer or survivor first released there will be problems and even they just buffed the Wraith newly which is a late buff if you ask me. He seems fun to play however weak at certain ranks. My advice is just to wait. I mean I dont know how long but wait. Sooner or later they will buff him and I think that it is gonna be sooner.
Yea but when a week a month 3 months next year
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For them to get off their high ducking horse and do something about these garbage chapters that they just left us to look at
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@KittenBee said:
This happened on every new chapter, why did you expect something different? People got mad when they were gonna delay the new chapter soooooo 🤷
I mean they delayed it and made no change
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@VikingWilson said:
I've been playing and watching for two years but, must admit, I don't know of devs outside of McClean doing streams, and even his are one-offs every few weeks that shows they don't play their own game.
I personally think MccClean is probably the best out of the devs not sure about queen I dont watch her
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@Todgeweiht said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065859#Comment_2065859
jesus
some of you guys need to seek help. For real. Join some video game addiction communities or something.
Yea I'm jus mad basically 6 months without anything good other than the ds rebalance
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@ImHexyAndINoed said:
I got you dad, if you struggle with Trickster on console run the IRI photo card and trick blades, aim at the survivors feet and whack them when they're laceration is 7/8
Survivor mains hate him...find out how to make Trickster slightly less bearable with this easy trick
I tried but the recoil is too much for me to control on console considering it's also horizontal not only vertical
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@YOURFRIEND said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065989#Comment_2065989
Yeah it's definitely a bummer that Trickster's power level doesn't match his aesthetics/coolness. He had a lot of potential.
But at least they didn't ship a perk that just does not work and didn't have to patch in basic functionality into the killer later. I think you're forgetting just how sad that chapter was.
I just had low expectations for that chapter
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@YOURFRIEND said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065939#Comment_2065939
The twins one was way worse
Yes and no I expected twins to be awful and saw no potential in them trickster has potential and yet they basically nerfed him despite feedback
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@CheesyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065916#Comment_2065916
I know but eventhough they did made a promise sometimes they could not manage it. Dont get me wrong I am not defending them but I am in software sector and I know especially in an online games like DBD there will be always "problems". These problems are not easy to fix and needs serious works and experiences. I dont know what kind of support team BHVR running but depends of their numbers and availibilty changes will be happen. Sometimes a small bug that we see can be quite a problem for whole team due to general structure of the main code and its connections to other parts. So best bet is to wait and hope that it will be a short wait but since the Trickster is the main killer now they will fix him first.
I sorta get that but this happens way too often and I'm both angry and just sad
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@VESSEL said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot2-1p_mrNs
Yes yes, go ahead and tell me how much you hate his killer main ass. He speaks nothing but truth.
Most people love him I do as well but holy ######### I've never been more mad at a chapter than this one
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@[Deleted User] said:
Let us know how he feels after consistent playtime with him.
Pain its just pain and a whole lot of it
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@CheesyGuy said:
He will def gonna be buffed. I mean many times when the killer or survivor first released there will be problems and even they just buffed the Wraith newly which is a late buff if you ask me. He seems fun to play however weak at certain ranks. My advice is just to wait. I mean I dont know how long but wait. Sooner or later they will buff him and I think that it is gonna be sooner.
I'm just sad that there is no communication so we have no idea if he will be buffed in a hot fix or have to wait a month and a half for mid chapter or 6 months like poor blight
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@[Deleted User] said:
Their track record is consistently making minor balance changes based on the PTB and continuing to make changes to their killers in coming patches. There is no reason to expect it will be any different this time.
I don't think they should make big changes just based on PTB feedback. Otherwise you have the potential to overbuff every perk or killer with a high skill ceiling and solving the problem with another problem. I much prefer to see how the killer does in actual matches before doing anything too drastic. I do expect he's underperforming, though, and if so I'm sure there will be changes coming down the line.
Its easier to nerf op things tho like ph and having no cooldown with his power because it's often just number tweaks or removal of something
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@Chilli_man2400 said:
Not true they buffed Twins from release they fixed the UI that was ######### after mid chapter. They fixed blight and buffed spirit and ghostface after PTB. Just because they didn’t change trickster from PTB does not mean they will change him at all he will be buffed probably in the next update.
Blight should of been fixed either mid chapter or on live that was 6 months ago it took 6 months to adjust a client sided camers issue that is literally just sliding the camera up and tweaking the break and vault animations
They did a good job with ghost face that was 1 year before blight came to live.
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@kosmi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065694#Comment_2065694
Well m2 is kind a strange like the aim is moving while throwing, almost imposible to keep at point while looping around the rock. And chases are tooo long, even if i get one injured other gets heal really fast. I just can't find a way to keep pressure with him at all.
It is moving for some reason he has vertical and horizontal recoil
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@kosmi said:
I mean i can't have press survs enough bearly get 2-3 hooks against good swf team. Does anyone have some perk combo that can help you get at least one kill?
So you get a refund if you spent any cash on this chapter that's how you play him
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@ImHexyAndINoed said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065652#Comment_2065652
You're Welcome Dad (s)
Lol