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Spine chill + sprint burst is the biggest pain in the ass
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is this really a question?
freddy
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@Sluzzy said:
It is the lazy way to win.
and im sure survivors are sweating their literal bums off with high iq plays such as holding m1 on a gen and looping. Mom gotta give the nea main a towel for all the sweat on their forehead. These gens ain't gonna do themselves! *wipes forehead*.
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@Tr1nity said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2874175#Comment_2874175
Pallet Stunned
Well get your ass out from under them\
Flashlight Stunned
You'd rather get clicked?
Looped
I forgot I'm supposed to run into ur weapon srry :(
Gen Rushed
This is the only game where ppl complain about survivors doing the game
Booned
As opposed to what? Survs never using them?
Body Blocked
Hit the guy, it's not complicated
Well I mean if you are getting camped and tunneled, it means you got downed/caught.
Just don't get downed lmao kekw
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@TheArbiter said:
I get that you find artist's playstyle frustrating, but she is easily high A tier lmao
She's A tier because map pressure and info you get from using your birds. During chase, I wouldn't say her power is very good, because of the W key strat (obviously needs to be done since it's the counterplay).
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@TheGrimQueefer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2872763#Comment_2872763
But you realise when the majority of killers just hard tunnel people out of the game, why it is such a commonly used perk.
If the game was balanced where killers didn't need to do that, it wouldn't be such a problem.
That really only applies to perks like DS and BT, except when people use them aggressively, despite the killer not trying to actively tunnel. DH is more used because people want to extend their chase, effectively making the killer in a lose lose situation. Continue chase and they waste more time. Drop chase, and now you wasted time chasing. And it doesn't help that generally 4-3 DHs in a match is common, making going in chases a pain in the ass.
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@Xperian said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2866306#Comment_2866306
Don't need you to go easy. Just don't facecamp me.
Then what I said doesn't apply to you.
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Despite spirit and sadako being based off of the same kind've idea, they each have a separate special place in my heart
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@Favi_MPx said:
coupe de grace (tier 3) should be boosted to 100 instead of 80. I think that would not be a problem if the survivor has DH. 1 perk vs 1 perk. is that fair?
except you literally only get to use coup 5 times per match. Just let me get a coup stack every time I hook instead of a gen being completed.
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@Zewolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2873586#Comment_2873586
How? (Reading that it sounds like youre calling doing generators boring.)
Its the same thing as doing generators but a bit more interesting.
1-4 people can work on the shrine but atleast one player needs to apply the clensing water.
And the envelopes are just generators but you need to get close to them as survivor to see them.
It just adds a bit of variety nothing too different.
I'm not calling it boring, I'm just saying that survivors will literally call any added objective boring if it doesn't favor them. I'd be down for the change, but a lot of survivors hate it. They just want to hold m1 on generators while predropping pallets.
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they seem fine, do you mean you're not getting the prompt? Either the killer is body blocking or you're too far or inside the pallet area.
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@Thusly_Boned said:
Solo queue isn't that bad. Yes, it's harder and often frustrating, but it's not the assured death some people make it out to be. I also think it's more in the spirit of the game than a team with comms.
A lot of hyperbole and melodrama about how bad solo is.
Agreed, people exaggerate way too much for some pity points.
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neb, from nebby, which was a pokemon from pokemon sun and moon (first game I bought day 1 release). Oddly enough people think my real name is Ben because it's neb but backwards.
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Oh they're talking about it a lot in the twitter replies... god don't look at the twitter replies.
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There was an early game objective mechanic that Patrick play tested or something, but survivors thought it was "boring". So your idea won't work because somehow in someway survivors will find it "boring".
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@DangerScouse said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/316150/hemorrhage-rework-hits-2-birds-with-1-stone
This is in no way a counter to CoH
my thoughts exactly.
People don't 99 heals with CoH. The rare survivor might for some weird reason (rEsIliEncE ValuE), then you'll get your "perk value". However it isn't a counter to CoH.
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@Starrseed said:
Since you lose the ability to reveal him the second you get marked the reveal just stops
I bet you there will be so many dedicated server moments where the survivor will reveal you even though you marked them before they could.
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@CashelP14 said:
Genuinely think the Onryo is underrated
And I genuinely think you're wrong. All her map traversal and condemn mechanic doesn't neglect the fact that at the end of the day, she's an m1 killer, and you can just predrop pallets on her. Play hit and run? COH. Commit to chase? You have no chase power, so your chases are going to be 3x longer. The time she saves with map traversal is used when you're in chase lmao.
Respect to bhvr for trying to make a viable m1 no chase power killer. But she just highlights the sorry state of the game towards non chase oriented killers.
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Camping, and to an extent tunneling, are only good in certain situations. The skill is when to know to do it. See a regressing gen while a hooked survivor is on stage two right next to it? You can proxy them to get the person dead while simultaneously get gen regression. Or tunneling someone when they intentionally DSed you before, and remembering that the person who's getting off hook doesn't have DS anymore. Stuff like that can change a game.
If you're not tunneling or camping, you're throwing the game. If you camp and tunnel and the correct moments, it's skilled imo.
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@dudette said:
Literally half the players (okay propably like 90%) complain about everything in the game. Is this some thing that og players dont talk here sikce half of the discussions are cringing about dead hard and noed being too good. Clearly you have forgotten how bad dedicated servers were. "ds is so op" okay these players wouldnt last a day with old inifites, perks and "mechanics"
if you think dbd is all about complaining, visit r/halo.
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@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2865129#Comment_2865129
Exactly this, imagine spawning into a game of battle royal like unreal, you get a strong weapon your opponent doesn’t, now you’re not allowed to shoot at them till they get a gun too because it’s not fair and will ruin their fun.
This is what you do when you play games against your 3 year old nephew so they can play too.
It’s pvp sometimes you are gonna get the short end of the stick and that’s fine it’s part of the game.
If people want a game that follows a set play and you always get your way, then demand custom game bots you can play against solo that way the game will always play out how you want.
I also find it absolutely hilarious how I'm required to play nice or i'm "absolute garbage and toxic", but I see NO effort from my opponents to try and play "nice". Why the ######### am I supposed to play nice and throw the game because little timmy wanted to win, except little timmy in this situation is a ######### grown man way older than me streaming on twitch, having a tantrum and throwing slurs at me over a video game. When he is having 0 thoughts about my "fun". Probably laughing at how stupid I look when I make 1 mistake.
I guess survivors should stop using God pallets, or loop me on strong tiles, or do gens fast, or predrop pallets, or send me to a horrible map, or run dead hard, or run any exhaustion perk, or use toolboxes, or separate on gens, or basically do literally anything that is unfun to me, right? What is this batshit stupid idiodic double standard logic that only exists in this stupid ######### game???
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Went against a Basement Bubba, and my teammates decided to feed him kills by going in the basement like morons. Then they had the audacity to say "boring basement bubba, no skill so op" the usual crap talking. I told them they shouldn't have gone down to basement, we wouldve all three of us escape (he had one person in basement and all the gens were done). They decided to focus their attention on me and started trash talking me and spamming "L neb" in chat.
Then they proceeded to go to my profile, and lie in my comments, saying "-rep he was teaming with the killer" (two of them commented the same thing). I asked them why they were lying just so they can get me somehow falsely banned, and they said they even had proof of me teaming with the killer. They then pulled up a photoshopped image of me in a steam comments section saying "+rep obedient killer, thx for teaming" when it was obviously photoshopped (text was crisp, while the rest of the background was pixelated.)
Just goes to show the weird ######### obsession and psychopathic nature these people have, just because I told them they shouldnt trash talk the Bubba for being "bad" when they literally fed him kills.
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@Phasmamain said:
Yeah hate those pesky survivors running the worst item in the game. God they are just too easy to kill
I don't think it's about how easy it is to win against them, just that OP doesn't like going against them probably because it's boring to them. A lot of people who say a similar thing to you tend to think winning is all that matters, so if you win it's all perfectly fine. I like to win, but if it was a boring match, I'm not going to be happy about it.
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@MikeyBoi said:
Nurse is overpowered, broken, busted, outdated, boring, unfun and miserable to face especially playing against a cracked nurse.. If you’re even remotely a decent nurse all you do is slap on haunted grounds, retribution, ruin and undying and you can literally have all four healthy survivors on the ground in 60sec… Nurse needs to be nerfed to the ground and the overheat mechanic on hillbilly needs to be removed so an actual fun killer to play against and that has counter play can make more of an appearance in matches.
Yeah I'm sure billy is super fun to go against, especially when you're just hugging windows and lobbing pallets for your dear life. People find "fun" in billy because you can just invalidate his power with a window or pallet. The counterplay against billy is just braindead pressing spacebar.
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I played a couple of games as survivor against her, since I didn't buy her, and I have to say:
Why is her condemn mechanic so weak? I barely had to care about it in the games I played.
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@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2844104#Comment_2844104
I guess a 15-second cooldown is no restriction. I guess not being able to go through walls and pallets is no restrictions (Nurse can do that no problem). She’s got directional audio now meaning you can hear where she’s coming from. Git gud mate.
Nurse goes in one direction while blinking, has a fatigue and power recharge timer, let's a player no with not only an animation change, but a sound queue that she's about to blink, and she has a trail that shows what direction she's going. Oh-OH b-but spirit can move any direction she wants while phasing she's super fast and is completely invisible while doing so, I guess that makes he completely busted and game breaking compared to nurse. GiT GuD MaTe.
That's just being biased at that point. Just because she can go through a wall doesn't mean it invalidates all the other flaws her power has that balance it out.
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@hiken said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2843613#Comment_2843613
seems u didnt read what i said. "if she is good". bad nurses never were a problem to me, i have 4k hours in this game. good nurses are the problem, agaisnt them there is nothing u can do, and holding w and press e to last 30 seconds at best is not fun.
I gave examples of what you can do against nurses that try to read your mind games since generally all good nurses know about mind games survivors do against nurses. If you don't mind me asking, what exactly do "good nurses" do that there's simply absolutely nothing you can do against them?
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@Nathan13 said:
ruin is strong if you're good at applying pressure.
yeah especially when it's inactive because it got cleansed 20 seconds into the game, now it's applying pressure on the killer because they ONLY HAVE 3 PERKS AVAILABLE
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If I remember you're on death hook, or DS. But usually the former, I try to keep track who's death hook and who isn't.
Or you looked at me funny.
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Start double backing in different directions instead of south, like southwest or southeast. It's easy to tell if she's blinking towards the ground, since she'll be blinking for way too long and you won't see the white trail go past you. Go in a bunch of different directions when dodging her blinks instead of the same 1 or 2 directions. You have 360 degrees movement for a reason, stop running in 2 different directions in straight lines like some bot. Move erratically.
You can also learn to double back at the perfect time, right as she blinks, but that's a bit more tricky, since you'll have to predict the exact time she lets go of right click and double back.
Early in a round, try to tell if she's a good nurse, like seeing if she doesn't fall for out of sight double backs. If she doesn't start committing instead of trying to double back all the time. When she starts realizing that you're not double backing anymore, then start to double back.
Use your surroundings a lot, like trees, rocks, and of course walls or structures. Of course don't really loop them. One thing I like to do is if I see a locker and she starts blinking or is charging it up, hop into it. She cannot open the locker unless she blinks and heads to fatigue. Of course it's not that good if she has double recharge, but most nurses run one recharge and one distance addon.
Also run dead hard, but 90 percent of survivors run it (including me), so I probably don't need to tell you that.
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Is dbd like people's first time playing an actual video game? Are flashlight saves really that hard to get it for other people? For anyone who has literally played a video game before, timings shouldn't be a problem for people, and it isn't for me. I feel like sometimes people whine about the most easiest #########. What next, are we gonna complain that we need to press the spacebar button on a certain spot near a pallet, and how it's too "hard".
If you don't know how, just watch those generic survivor youtubers and usually they always bring a flashlight. That's one way to learn.
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I believe it's because if you click at a certain direction your camera is facing, then it instantly moves your character's model to face that direction. It's to make 360's quicker and more fluid I'm guessing.
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@jeremycarinio said:
maybe the devs might need to work on this and give penalties to campers.
you already gave a killer which has the BEST mobility in the game, (which is a paid version of wraith+ freddy) and still they camp?
are these red rank killers now desperate to camp midgame.
They just need to reward killers for not camping, and by rewarding, I'm not talking about a little more BP. I want killers to actually win more if they start going for 12 hooks, because if all we do is punish killers for camping/tunneling, it won't do anything about the underlying problem of killers throwing the game because they decided to spread hooks, unless they're going against baby survivors. That's the tricky part though, how would that happen? What would they need to buff in order to make it viable to spread hooks and encourage chase?
Yes, it is out of desperation that these people camp, but it's because if they decide to spread out hooks and actively not tunnel, they're going to lose a majority of games.
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It, because get this, made the KILLER crash. How in the absolute-
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@Adaez said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xCiIhrazxo
Weak killer,easy to bully ✅
Perks that endorse bullying ✅
I can already see the titles on youtube from some survivor main content creators: "I made Sadako dc,haha i'm a god" .
Please dont do this to Sadako,I was excited when they announced she's gonna be in dbd,now i'm just dreadful .
"I can already see the titles on youtube from some survivor main content creators: "I made Sadako dc,haha i'm a god"."
I never understand why viewers like that sort of content on youtube. Maybe they get off to seeing killers angry or something? I guess it's the same reason why people like salt videos. One guess is that because they got destroyed in the game by some killer/survivor they versed, they watch a youtuber destroy completely different killers/survivors, but they envision the person they went against in their head as the person they're watching.
Or I could just be reaching and talking out of my butt, that's also another thought.
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2840849#Comment_2840849
I'm guessing he's talking about double lockers, which on most configurations can allow a 100% unavoidable flashlight save. I've had survivors do this to basically draw a game out for ages - if they know what they are doing, you're looking at an extra 15-20 minutes of frustration.
Yup, had a team send me to ormond and do the same thing in main building when i was playing nurse. Nothing I could do, it was a coordinated swf. So three people would be doing it to me, while 1 was rushing gens. I'd try to look for the person doing gens but then they'd just follow me, and the dwight that was doing gens would just swap places with another person and do the same thing.
Whenever I actually did get a down, there would be no walls around me, and there'd be like 2 people covering all angles, so I could do the quick 180 trick. They'd also get on top of this rock, and I didn't know how to get on top of it. Apparently it's a glitch where on a certain spot on the rock, you could get on top of. Even if I did get the down on the person who was on the rock, and if I got up there, I would probably be really easy to flashlight, since there's no objects. On top of all of that, they (most likely) purposefully left 1 gen left just so that they could keep trolling me, and I eventually started to hit the gen, and gave up trying to kill them, because I wanted out of the game. They eventually 4 escaped and typed "GGS <3" and "FUN GAME <3". Couldn't tell if they were being genuine, or they're just trolling me, especially with the "fun game", so I just typed ggs and left.
Either way I decided to take a 2 week break. I pray that I never see a team doing this ever again.
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I DON'T KNOW YOU TELL ME
WAS SADAKO BUFF ENOUGH ?
in all seriousness probably not. It's a step in the right direction though.
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839413#Comment_2839413
Yeah, our community is really special when it comes to how we treat new players. I remember how people deranked on purpose before a free weekend, just to stomp noobs and make their first impression as miserable as possible. Including telling them to uninstall and play something else.
When we should try to make new players feel at home and welcome them to DbD. Instead we scare them away.
Same people who go "why is our game not getting new players?"
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2832025#Comment_2832025
I don´t agree.
While sure, he´ll get better in time. A new killer is bound to face far more experienced survivors that will roflstomp him. Which obviously led to this thread. If a killer wants to play fair, then he´ll barely get kills. At least with the current meta. Only playing "scummy" leads to kills. But then he´ll feel the wrath of salty survivors which will haunt his profile and leave toxic messages.
After reading this thread, i´m probably the only one who felt some kind of empathy for the OP.
Instead of getting some building up words he just got rage comics as response, which is kinda sad and a reflection of our community.
@9InchDeck what killer where you playing? Maybe i can give you tips on what to improve.
I can sympathize with him as well, I just would be able to more if I could see footage of how he plays. I've honestly taken the scummy player route, I play normally in the beginning of the match, but if I start losing I eventually resort to soft tunneling or proxy camping. In turn though I get berated in end game chat. Who knows how even worse it would be if I started running NOED. It's kind've saddening to know we're limited to two choices:
- Play "fair" and lose almost every game against decent or above decent survivors, and in return you will get trash talked less frequently (had a game where I 12 hooked and didn't tunnel or camp, still got trashed on in end game chat).
- Play scummy (the option I chose), and have fun by winning your games more frequently, but in return 8/10 games you're berated in end game chat, or in your steam comments.
It's funny, I played Valorant before, and not once did you get trash talked for playing the sweatiest duelist or using the phantom/vandal (meta guns). It's considered a norm to do that. However in this game, playing strategically and using the best options is considered "ill mannered and rude". Not once have I played a game like this.
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The whole blaming argument that is/was going on is completely pointless, what a waste of time. Who cares who's to blame, can we just get rid of macro/clicking flashlights? It serves no purpose, you can get the killer's attention by tbagging in front of their face if that's what you want to do. I can't tell if some of you are trying to basically say "it's this person's fault, so macro clicking shouldn't be removed!"
If you are, refer to the first 2 sentences. If not, then what in the world is the point of this argument?
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@Munqaxus said:
Clicky-clicky is the survivors version of face-camping and tunneling-off-hook-till-dead.
What is this comparison even for? This is a post talking about health related issues regarding a game mechanic, not a they vs us post. Are you seriously that ######### petty that you would ignore the main topic of the post and instead try to start some argument? How sad do you have to be to do that
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If you're a baby doc than they must be ######### fetuses my god look at those bloodpoints
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They nerfed him and you're still losing? God you must be one horrible player, I hope I never get queued with you. Please stay out of my games, thank you.
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Quick and short, but I can't count how many Red rank survivors I've faced tonight that gen rush and predrop pallets and it just leaves me confused on how they made it that far. Just curious as if anyone else has experienced this or if it's just me xD
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I love how it now has such a mediocre power and is used to "counter" boons... but can be blessed/cleansed.... what.
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@OpenX said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SHYWFL2U8DX3/jan.png
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/XS0T28FK7UTI/feb.png
I mean not really, I don't really even have to try to get -rep. I get -rep for existing at this point.
But if I try for it, that's when you get the salty novels. Omegalul, such an easy game to troll
holy crap all of those were recent. I don't get many steam comments, but I get a lot of crap from end game chat. I only have like 3 pages on steam total, but the amount of end game chat salt I get is insane. Kinda funny to look at.
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@ThanksForDaily said:
With so much camping and tunneling lately, Borrowed Time is a must perk.
it's already becoming basekit, you guys haven't heard?
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why do you talk like this it is really hard to read what you're saying im trying to understand but theres no punctuation at all its very confusing can anyone help me is there a google chrome extension to automatically add punctuation its very difficult to read how did you even get passed english class it mustve been very hard for you i feel very bad one day i hope you can better your punctuation skills then you can be the best english professor i have ever seen that sounds very cool
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2834379#Comment_2834379
less of, "they prepare if they know where they are going" and more "going there IS the preparations or 90% of it"
Just an honest question. If a survivor complains about something that is OP, they are told to "git gud", but if the reverse happens, "survivors OP". So it takes no skill to play survivor, but also they should "git gud" (skill?), but a killer has every right to complain and being a survivor is just OP? So it is not at all possible for some killers to just suck at the game?
Source: This forum and dbd subreddit.
wrong. the source is you. YOU are the one perceiving it like this. or can you show me a table or something showing everytime "git gud" was used and what kind of player it was?
this is just your perception of the situation, don't treat it as truth.
IMO, this game is very good at showing skill gaps for both sides. Plenty of killers can steamroll even SWFs(E.G. Otzdarva) who I would consider an extremely skilled killer,
No. this is just wrong to say and can't be confirmed either way.
OTZ sometimes steamrolls swfs, and sometimes he can't do anything. that is the premise. but it's flawed. we can't know what is or isn't a swf 99% of the time.
therefore we can't really make a proper judgement.
even if we could tell it is a swf, we can't know if they have comms, if they play together often, or if they even know what they are doing.
this is just a moot point.
wanna make a point about actual swfs? use tournaments. not people playing randoms online.
and plenty of survivors can run a good killers brains out.
same issue. but I do find it interesting you pointed out 1 good killer player but no good survivor player... is one premise harder to believe than the other?
However, the average for both sides are nowhere near the skill ceiling of skilled players.
that is how averages work, yes.
and quite literally all games...
I'm not here to say survivors are OP or that killers are OP. I think some killers/perks have their advantages and some survivor perks have their advantages, but I think removing skill from the killer POV is just ridiculous and completely disingenuous .
again, that is just your perception. and this one is particularly terrible. no one says killer takes no skill (ironically, no one besides survivor mains).
For the record, I think this game suffers massive balance issues from each end that can make either side frustrated. But from what I see on this forum and subreddit is that Killers are always right and immaculate in their thoughts,
then you haven't been reading the forums all that much.
but if a survivor has anything negative to say about their experience...it's "bait, lol".
and if you think this only happens to survivors, you haven't been reading the forums all that much
How about some of you killers just "git good".
how about showing actual examples of killers ignoring actual issues from the survivor side instead of a very silly ad hominum?
Maybe you just suck and are a hypocrite.
maybe you just suck, and can't see from the killer POV. did you even consider that?
It's not confirmation bias.
it is.
The forum and DBD subreddit are MASSIVELY killer leaning to an outrageous extent.
says you... again, just your perception. which is always biased.
The amount of "lol, bad bait" responses when a survivor has a complaint is ridiculous.
yet you showed none...
I'm not saying the reverse NEVER happens, that would be delusional.
no, what you're saying is that it happens substantially mofr for one side than the other. but you show nothing besides your opinion to support it.
But anyone with the ability to read can easily see these forums and subreddit are riddled with killer bias to an unbelievable degree.
but you see, only a true scotsman can read
Like I said, if a survivor has a complaint, it's "git gud" but in the same breath "survivor takes no skill".
I heard the same for killer plenty of times...
I mean which one is it? Why do killers not apply this logic to themselves? It's like they all believe that they are God tier and their skill is never a question.
it's like you think killer players are a single entity. that what one says applies to all of them...
but hey, there has NEVER been survivors who think they are gods and their skill is never a question... right?
Again, I'm not making a claim one way or another about the game being balanced against one side. That's an extremely nuanced debate with many, many many factors. It just seems like on these forums or on reddit, the killer's skill is never in question. It's just weird.
again, you haven1t been reading the forums all that much.
Everyone is entitled to WANT to have the experience they desire when playing a video game. I mean, that's why we all play video games, right? To enjoy ourselves and have fun. There's just a massive bias against survivors here and it's like they're not allowed to have an opinion.
why do you keep repeating that you don't read the forums a lot?
Like here's another example I constantly see on these forums if a survivor mentions camping/tunneling: "The killer can play how they want and they are not responsible for how much fun you have" but in the same breath talk about how DS/BT/UB make them miserable. So only killers are aloud to have any sort of complaints whatsoever?
What about saying "the killer can play how they want" means the survivors can't complain whatsoever?
at worst this would mean they can't complain about camping/tunneling but that isn't even what's happening.
what usually happens is survivors saying the game shouldn't allow killers to do such things, which is usually what brings the "they are not responsible for how much fun you have" argument. which is correct.
the survivor voiced his complaint, he got answers. same happens to killers.
The game is just so ridiculously killer sided that the mere mention of a complaint from a survivor is "bait" and "entitled".
what happened to "I'm not making a claim one way or another about the game being balanced against one side"?
These are just my observations after being on these forums for a while.
glad you recognize that it's just your perception of things. which will forever be a biased thing.
Again, I'm not mentioning that I personally think survivors or killers are OP.
but you did say the game is killer sided...
I just find it aweful that people get berated for expressing their frustration as a survivor as if it's one of the 7 deadly sins.
yes, that is bad. but not a survivor only thing.
It's baffling that out of 10's of thousands of players, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences.
It's baffling that out of thousands of users, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences in this forum.
What you just said is EXACTLY what my post is addressing. You have it in your mind that you're so unbelievably skilled that it couldn't possibly be anything you're doing, it HAS to be that the game is survivor sided. Never mind the statistics or other people's experiences. None of that matters...no no no no...Your word is law and streamers that get 100+ win streaks(4ks or 3+hatch) are just wrong and obviously pay survivors to throw the game so they can consistently get these wins. Couldn't possibly have ANYTHING to do with their skill, right?
what a big amount of nothing... at least make some sort of point.
you are just insulting someone's intelligence here. or trying to...
replace game experience with forum experience and it would suit you. stop thinking so highly of yourself, like you know all the answers and if people have a different conclusion they obviously didn't consider what you did. because you are so amazing.
grow up!
Surely your comment is being sarcastic. You can't be so dense to completely miss the meaning of my post. It's incredibly ironic how many people are just not reading my post or are just blocking everything out then going on to prove exactly what I said, and get 20+ upvotes for doing so lol.
Meanwhile anyone going against the status quo for killers get no upvotes. Un-freaking-believable how so many of you are missing this.
It's baffling that out of thousands of users, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences in this forum.
I don't disagree with any of this. And I think this is a conversation for another thread. My main reason for this post was just to point out how unbelievably killer biased and completely illogical and contradictory statements are constantly spewed on these forums. I have nearly 3k hours in this game and have played for years. I have plenty of complaints for both sides, but the mere mention of something from a survivor about a negative experience is met with extreme hostility, condescension and completely irrational beliefs that people couldn't possibly have different opinions/experiences. Hell, I can say with utter certainty that my experience drastically changes from night to night.
it's amazing how much of what you say can be countered by either "It's baffling that out of thousands of users, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences in this forum." or "It's baffling that out of 10's of thousands of players, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences."
you need a mirror.
In an asymmetric game, how is a near 50% win rate not ideal?
many reasons. specially when you consider what the game considers a win.
but counter question, can you even demonstrate that a 50% win rate is ideal on an asymmetric game?
See, why is it believed that killers should win/get 4k-3ks much more often than the survivor escapes.
and this is either a strawman or a missrepresentation of the most common killer argument.
either way, you're arguing against yourself there...
That's already a massive flag for bias about killers.
the strawman/misrepresentation? it's a red flag against arguing with you.
Also, the same can be said about context of killers. I can't tell you how many killers I've made DC just because I won't let them down me or get frustrated with being constantly juked.
seen it happen aswell.
doesn't help your case in any way, shape or form.
I've also experienced several "boosting" killers who are doing a daily with a killer they don't want to play and throw the game and everyone escapes without even being hooked. Do these situations also not skew the stats,
yes. it does. which is why the stats are bad and shouldn't be used to make any point whatsoever.
or again, anything that veers away from the killer status quo on these forums just don't matter? Funny how you gave an example that would inflate killer stats, but completely skip over the fact that the opposite happens.
talking about X is different from ignoring the existance of Y.
don't even try, there isn't a point to be made here. they showed one reason why the stats are flawed, you showed another.
Don't get me wrong buddy. I even said in my op that this game suffers from massive balance issues, but that's not what I was getting out. I think every single person is entitled to their opinion based on their own experiences. I'm not at all saying killers cannot have complaints, but here on these forums survivors cannot.
"I think maybe The Artist base speed should be 110% instead of 115%"
Response:
"Lol, bad bait 2/10" - 20 upvotes
"This is a joke, right" - 37 upvotes
etc...
ahem... "It's baffling that out of thousands of users, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences in this forum."
Doesn't matter if it's 4 survivors, it's only one game's statistics. Whether you get a snowball 4k because of a DC or due to overly altruistic plays, Or the killer DCs or boosts the lobby resulting in a 4 man escape, they affect the statistics the same because it's for one match. And I certainly don't mean to be rude, but "in your own experience" is another example of bias as if other people can't possibly have different experiences. You're fixing your own personal experience on the larger image to confirm your bias on what you think without only anecdotal evidence and nothing with actual substance. Again, sorry if that sounds rude, but I thought I should point it out since this is what my whole post is about.
2 in a row "It's baffling that out of thousands of users, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences in this forum."
The threads do not reflect what you're saying in the slightest.
says you.
I mean, I don't have anything else to say other than go look through the threads, and if you still disagree...well...um...you can lead a horse to water, right?
almost 3 in a row... "It's baffling that out of thousands of users, it's impossible for you to think that people can have drastically different experiences in this forum."
I'm sure it's completely impossible for either killers or survivors to claim they play one or the other or both in order to push their agenda by appearing to have a "nuanced" view by pretending to be the opposite side while saying something to benefit the other side.
I'm sure it's completely impossible for someone to claim they participate a lot in the forums in order to push their agenda by appearing to have a "nuanced" view by pretending they have the full picture.
again... get a mirror.
It only works for steam, but people could easily post their stats if they wanted to prove they play both sides. For example, here's mine:
https://dbd-stats.net/profile/76561198024224074
Clearly very survivor heavy(90% solo q) but also hundreds of hours as killer
ignoring the fact this could be literally anyone... what do you think that shows?
is it really that hard to imagine most people would play both roles of a game they own? even if they play one more than the other?
it's like someone owning mario party but only ever playing on 1 board. they are the exception, not the rule.
Beautiful.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2835716#Comment_2835716
I can sympathize with the map issue as well.
but the title is very much shifting the focus away from the actual problem that is even in the post not really well described.
Agreed.