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@Weasdat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2348859#Comment_2348859
The game isn't always just counting the seconds for distance gained from holding w. Dead hard for distance also negates mind games where the survivor ######### up. No other exhaustion perk can do that. That's not to mention the million utility cases dead hard still gets over other exhaust perks.

Ironically, at high level holding W and maximizing distance is one of the strongest strategies since so many of the top Killers are anti-loop. Do not underestimate the power of gaining distance, it is one of the strongest things a Survivor can do in the game, which is why all exhaustion perks are stronger than most non-exhaustion perks.

As for fixing mistakes, playing risky is part of the strategy with Dead Hard. What you might have considered a mistake could have been planned or at least predicted by the Survivor because they were playing around their Dead Hard.

If you can get away with it, greeding and playing risky can be the optimal way to use Dead Hard.

in Why people hate Dead Harding for distance Comment by gatsby July 9, 2021

@Superyoshiegg said:
...people hate it because it has no requirements to use besides 'be injured', which is going to happen in a chase anyway.
It may not give as much distance as the other Exhaustion perks, but it's on demand distance with no downsides.
Sprint Burst forces you to move slowly lest you activate it prematurely, Lithe needs a vault, Balanced Landing needs a drop & Smash Hit needs a pallet stun. Dead Hard? All you gotta do is push
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It takes no skill, or effort, or timing to Dead Hard for distance. Mess up a loop? It doesn't matter, because you can simply Dead Hard to make it to the pallet/vault anyway. There's no counterplay to this. The Killer cannot prevent the Survivor from using it incorrectly.
It's a free second chance button that can be used multiple times a match with only a short cooldown between them. The definition of a crutch perk.

You didn’t read my post lol.

Distance adds up over time. The reason a Survivor barely makes a pallet/vault in chase could have been from a BL, SB, SH or Lithe used earlier on in that chase.

Dead Hard’s burst of speed is just more in your face than other perks. An exhaustion perk doesn’t end the second its timer runs out its value only ends once all the distance that was gained with it is lost and the Survivor goes down.

in Why people hate Dead Harding for distance Comment by gatsby July 9, 2021

@humanbeing1704 said:
Is power struggle really that strong? Always seemed like a meme perk to me

Power Struggle + Flip Flop is strong. It’s inconsistent and might seem troll at first, but the Killer could lose the entire game if you can pull off a solo pallet save. All you gotta do is go down on a pallet and recover to at least 50%.

The main case against it is that Unbreakable is another slugging counter perk but only uses one perk slot, while Power Struggle needs the combo with Flip Flop.

in Inconsistent perks are all overrated Comment by gatsby July 9, 2021

@Ruma said:
You telling me i am stupid for running boil over, tentacity, unbreakable and flip flop?

Yes because you should be running Power Struggle instead of Boil Over :)

in Inconsistent perks are all overrated Comment by gatsby July 9, 2021

You can't get an anniversary crown on Nemesis so anyone doing the event won't play him.

Also, he's just an average Killer nothing super special. I would expect him to have a similar pickrate to Demo

in Why does no one play Nemesis? Comment by gatsby July 8, 2021

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2335363#Comment_2335363
Flashy just means ostentatiously attractive or impressive and I based my reply off of that definition. Regardless, I feel the point I made stands and I hope it resonates with you.
I do however agree that the perks are descrete and can really bite the killer in the behind.
For example I was once personally responsible for getting a 4 man escape against a red rank trapper. He had a Claudette hooked as the final gen popped and was camping. I ran in for the rescue having an active deliverance and DS, knowing full well I would replace her on the hook. That's exactly what happened and the rest was history. I never even needed the DS because I also had sprint burst and the hook was quite close to the gate (not right next to it but relatively close).

Flashy has multiple definitions. Other definitions from merriam-webster are "momentarily dazzling" and "superficially attractive or impressive," which capture more what I was going for.

I don't use like Decisive Strike, Unbreakable and Adrenaline because I find them unreliable. I prefer consistency every game over the occasional montage worthy play like 25% of the time.

So you'll find me using healing with Inner Strength, getting a head start with Spine Chill, Dead Harding for distance or using Kindred to pull off an uninterrupted save. Not using a Head On into Decisive Strike into Flashbang into Lucky Break meme play.

in There’s no reason not to run Spine Chill Comment by gatsby July 5, 2021

@[Deleted User] said:
Spine chill is a good perk but I prefer not to run it, it doesn't really fit into my builds. It's a great perk against a Stealth Killer on Lery's or Hawkins.
Just touching on your comment about it not being as flashy as Unbreakable or Adrenaline, as a Solo Queue Survivor I never run Unbreakable or Adrenaline. They are very situational; One only works if the killer slugs (quite often I'll admit, but whenever I equip the perk the killer never slugs) and the other only works if the killer made enough mistakes or your team was strong enough to have all the gens pop.
Similar to 'Left Behind' you have a perk that is literally no use to you until the very end of the game. If you play in SWF, Adrenaline is much more valuable. In Solo Queue lobbies, all too often you will get Survivors who are dead within a couple of minutes and you will have a wasted a perk slot. SWF is different because of how stark the contrast is between it and Solo Queue.

"Flashy" perks just mean perks that have very obvious value. They tend to be the more "in your face" perks that Killers are constantly reminded of because they have extremely high value when the opportunity arises. Think Soul Guard, Power Struggle, Unbreakable, Decisive Strike, Head On, Dead Hard, Borrowed Time, Deliverance or even Iron Will etc. They're not subtle at all when they get used.

Spine Chill, Bond, Kindred, Detective's Hunch, Resilience, Windows of Opportunity, Inner Strength, Distortion, Desperate Measures or Alert etc. are all examples of powerful perks that might go completely unnoticed by the Killer because they're subtle and don't give the Killer any real visual cues to confirm what you're running. It's not a matter of strength its a matter of discretion.

in There’s no reason not to run Spine Chill Comment by gatsby July 5, 2021

@FattiePoobum said:
To add to the conversation
l think it’s a very handy perk for those who arnt comfortable playing injured.
but on the flip side it also encourages to much caution sometimes
how many times have you been on a gen with someone at about 90% and the killer is coming and you are yelling at the other survivor “commit” and they just glide of because of SP and the gen doesn’t get done.

Those are two different types of Survivors. The ones who are comfortable playing injured usually hard commit to gens if they think they can finish them.

And the ones that get scared probably didn't even pay attention to the gen progress very closely anyway.

in There’s no reason not to run Spine Chill Comment by gatsby July 5, 2021

@bobateo said:
1.) Speed bonus not that much. And if the Killer is looking at you long enough to make that boost meaningful, you better be running.
2.) It has downsides - you don't know which direction the Killer is facing you from. On maps where you have 2 paths to choose from, that's literally a 50/50. (See: almost every area in an indoor map.) On outdoor maps, unless you're relatively in the open (which can have its own problems), you still have the same thing: you don't know from what angle the Killer is approaching unless they're in LOS. Which, lbr, if the Killer is in clear LOS, it's not SC keeping them from getting a down. SC 'flickers' and for nervy SC users, those flickers are pretty much free pressure for the Killer. It takes a lot of game sense to get real use out of the SC. As with the 2 points before 'nervy' SC users are as likely to run into the Killer as not and that is .... more free pressure. On maps with two floors, SC is even more uncertain as the Killer can be on a different floor and SC will 'flicker' or stay lit up even tho the surv is in no immediate peril.
Combined with a perk like Bond and Resilience, SC can have more utility to the average surv. But hey that means they only have one slot for something else which should be a blessing.
Unless they're really good at looping and have excellent game sense, then the Killer might be in trouble. But no one says you have to chase that surv.

I'm the Red Rank Survivor that can infer a ton of information from the perk. And that's the use of Spine Chill that I'm talking about.

I keep track of where I last knew the Killer to be and the likely direction they would come from based on my location in the map/the gens that have been completed, so usually when its lighting up I'm not surprised about where they come from.

Also, I use Spine Chill to be greedy so flickers of the perk don't scare me at all. I use the perk to tell the difference between the Killer chasing someone else in the area and actually knowing where I am and coming to chase me.

in There’s no reason not to run Spine Chill Comment by gatsby July 5, 2021

Here’s some for Twins.

Hexes are the best perks for Twins because they all work even while Victor is in use. (i.e. Crowd Control>Bamboozle, Ruin>Pop)

Victor’s Lunge Animation is faster and farther than Dead Hard so 90% of the time he will hit through it.

Victor has built in Bloodhound, which is something you can abuse when Survivors are injured. It heavily counters Iron Will and helps snowball slugging. The blood is so bright that I’ll sometimes go on top of hills and see a blood trail from across the map.

And my final tip is for Charlotte. Always keep her centrally located since she’s only 115% while Victor is 150%+. It saves time in the long run and totally freaks out Survivors when you chase them with Victor into the center of the map right to Charlotte.

in People who consider themselves masters of their main Comment by gatsby July 4, 2021

It’s possible yes. If you play a lot and always run WGLF/BBQ, you’d be able to get at least one P3 per week.

However, it would be a huge waste assuming you already have characters maxed out with good perks, offerings and items

in Completion Question Comment by gatsby July 3, 2021

It’s the event.

People are playing Killers they normally don’t play to level up, prestige or simply just farm cakes/addons.

Basically, no one is playing normally because the event incentivizes grinding all the Killers/Survivors

in DBD has me worried about humanity Comment by gatsby July 3, 2021

@DwarvenTavern said:
Do they have a date when these will be released?

PTB is July 7th. The Live patch will probably be the end of July/beginning of August

in TLDR of the Developer Update Comment by gatsby July 2, 2021

@MojoTheFabulous said:
You seem to have explained it yourself. Obviously the blind and stun is useful but revealing the aura of the gen to every survivor is a great bit of info to have, especially in solo queue. The fact that if the gen doesn't get kicked you get blast mine right back makes it so using it at any point isn't useless.

Now I understand. I didn’t realize you got it back if the gen doesn’t get kicked so there’s no way to “waste” it

in Can someone explain Blast Mine users? Comment by gatsby July 2, 2021

I'm doing the same thing. DBD really pushes up against 8gb of RAM. You can run the game fine but if you have other applications and tabs open it quickly becomes a problem.

In a week or so when I'm done assembling my new PC with 16gb DDR4 3600, I hope to not have to worry about running stuff in the background anymore (Netflix and YouTube during queues and loading screens is too good to give up especially since DBD will probably never be optimized to use less RAM just more over time)

in Is 8 GB of RAM enough for this game? Comment by gatsby July 1, 2021

@tippy2k2 said:
At least in Red Ranks, killers are too good at the stutter step to make Smash Hit really all that useful as you rarely get to actually stun them.
Not to mention a few killers like Nurse or even Bubba who basically eliminates pallets completely unless something very strange happens...
I suppose when it works, it's probably one of the most effective exhaust perks for just plain getting away but in my experience, it just doesn't come into play very often.

I use it at Red Ranks. Most Killers don't fall for it twice but I pretty much always get one activation of Smash Hit.

The real key is running slightly past the pallet and backing up to stun them. Its a skill that you have to learn over time. A lot of Red Ranks know distances so well that they pre-drop when they know they can't make another loop around, so they never get stuns due to being super predictable.

in Smash Hit is criminally underrated Comment by gatsby June 29, 2021

@MadLordJack said:
Don't forget the fact that he's the only killer in the game who never, ever mindgames because it's more efficient to just walk at people and throw teeny little knives as you're coming around corners.
Trickster is a wierd killer.

Depends on the loop. There are plenty of loops (or even entire maps) where the knives will decay quicker then you can consistently land them

in Trickster's playstyle confuses me Comment by gatsby June 29, 2021

Legion and Twins

Not perfect but I can put up one hell of a fight against a high rank SWF

in Which Killer do you think you've mastered? Comment by gatsby June 28, 2021

Killers have worse performance optimization on console.

Try playing Blight, Nurse, Billy, Deathslinger, Trickster, Huntress, Plague etc on Console and you'll see why they're all Survivor players

in Where Are All the PC Survivors? Comment by gatsby June 26, 2021

Camp and three gen.

If you see anyone on the other side of the map with BBQ, ignore them its not worth it.

in Killers- How do you play Trickster? Comment by gatsby June 26, 2021

@Iliketoplaykiller said:
So you want free points for being tunneled out of a game?

Actually that would make the experience better

in Camping and Tunneling shouldn't hurt Survivors Comment by gatsby June 24, 2021

@DwarvenTavern said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2302689#Comment_2302689
Uh.. they did though on stream..?

Nope. Might wanna check again

in So about the anniversary (IT'S ABOUT CROWNS) Comment by gatsby June 23, 2021

... no one said the fourth anniversary crowns are coming back

in So about the anniversary (IT'S ABOUT CROWNS) Comment by gatsby June 23, 2021

It's possible to load into ONE MATCH with a glitched cosmetic but it will reset every time after the game ends.

So a dedicated person could do the cosmetic glitch, but its super unsustainable long term

in Did they patch the Outfit glitch? Comment by gatsby June 22, 2021

@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298818#Comment_2298818
I could be wrong but to my understanding as long as you don't change your current combination, you're not going to lose your bugged outfits. It's just if you change it, it won't be possible to get back. So not really a waste of money in that perspective if you're happy with what you already have.

I lost my gliched Leon (he was set to default when i loaded in) and I'm upset about it.

Everyone else stayed the same though so it seems like they patched it specifically because of the RE license

in Please, for the love of god, don't fix the cosmetic glitches Comment by gatsby June 22, 2021

twins are good against SWFs and the matchmaker has been giving sweat matches?

in rise in twin players Comment by gatsby June 21, 2021

@SomberNokk said:
Id like to see something like survivors voting on what boon totem with different effects to spawn within the trial before the match starts.

That’s a bit of a stretch for the Devs. If they could’ve done a pre-game voting system they would have done that for the maps years ago.

in My boon totem theory Comment by gatsby June 20, 2021

The balance of the Survivor to Killer ratio has shifted.

I guess Survivors left because of the bad patch.

Or the new RE players are more inclined to play Killer?

Either way. Survivors are now usually with quicker queues as the Killer playerbase seems to have increased

in Are Queue Times Broken Right Now? Comment by gatsby June 20, 2021

@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/259228/why-is-trickster-the-most-graphically-intense-killer
I have a 2080 super. Never had frame drops with him.

A 2080 super is one of the better gpus. It even beats out some of the rtx 30 series. I'd be shocked if you knew what DBD frame drops were

in Why is Trickster the most graphically intense Killer? Comment by gatsby June 19, 2021

If Trickster was 115, he’d still be weak

in Random Thought: 112.5% Killer Comment by gatsby June 18, 2021

Survivor sided at low skill.

Killer sided at average skill levels.

Survivor sided at high skill.

There’s a reason average Survivors cry for Killer nerfs and Rank 1 streamers cry about Survivors being overpowered.

in Do you consider Dead by Daylight survivor sided, killer sided, or balanced? Comment by gatsby June 16, 2021

@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/258069/why-are-the-devs-making-ranged-projectile-killers
Nemesis is definitely not ranged. His m2 is the same range as a lunge.

the range goes up slightly in tier 3 and its got a unique hitbox thing going on for windows and pallets that a normal M1 lunge doesn’t

in Why are the Devs making ranged projectile Killers? Comment by gatsby June 16, 2021

@WiiFitTrainer said:
This is pretty much my experience.
Ironically, using his power is similar to trickster. Against good survivors its almost not worth using.

At least he’s not 110...

in After +35 Matches With Nemesis Comment by gatsby June 16, 2021

@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/256901/how-to-instantly-tell-weak-teammates
Agreed. Except in instances it’s critical to stop someone being eliminated from the gane, especially if they’re a valuable asset because they’ve been able to keep the killer in really long chases.

Unfortunately, very few Killers respect DS anymore and even less Survivors actually bring it.

So Killers can get good loopers out of the game easier than ever. A good looper will usually only go down in an area once its completely burned of resources, which makes it really hard to express their skill considering they're usually being chased again the second they're unhooked.

Yes, BT it a thing but its not a perk anyone outside of a SWF can rely on because someone else has to bring it to help you. And there are no promises in solo queue. zero.

in How to instantly tell weak teammates Comment by gatsby June 14, 2021

@FIEND8LOODED said:
Remember, NEVER help your teammates. If you see somebody on a hook do NOT try to save them, lest you get labelled as a LOW RANK SURVIVOR.

If they're being camped (yes even proxy camped) and you don't have BT. Thats exactly what you should do.

The Killer has minimal map pressure from staying near a hook. Slam the gens and gtfo of the game if the Killer refuses to play don't be a hero. Altruistic people that try to play hero are more likely to make things worse than better.

in How to instantly tell weak teammates Comment by gatsby June 14, 2021

Yun-Jin with Spine Chill (its just a generally useful perk that doesn't really have weaknesses or counterplay).

Smash Hit is one of the best exhaustion perks and Fast Track is essentially the solo queue version of Prove Thyself. Self Preservation is alright but pretty average. It helps a bit with anti-tunnel because you get to disappear if someone takes a protection hit for you.

Overall just a nice balance of chase potential and utility.

in Just for fun: 3 Teachables + A Generic Perk. Comment by gatsby June 12, 2021

The issue is that running a dedicated perk to counter Iron Will is only worth it on Spirit with every other Killer its not enough value to consider running. And Bloodhound doesn't even work with Spirit unless you have the Iri add-on

in With how regularly Iron Will is talked about, I think too many of you sleep on Bloodhound. Comment by gatsby June 11, 2021

@KingFrost said:
Does anyone even wear the crowns? I think I maybe see them every 50 games or so. But they're like a big flashing light saying "Come get me!" I don't have any (well, I did. But then I changed platform so I had to start everything over) but I don't think I'd use them even if I did.

To be fair, Legacy has the exact same issue of being a big flashing "come get me!" sign