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@JC316 said:
I too was getting angry at this, till I changed my mindset and tactics. First off, I don't care about pipping as killer since I am getting survivors way outside my rank anyway. Say I'm in a match where ruin goes down instantly, I'm using a weaker killer, and one survivor frustratingly loops me for two gens. The game is over, no point in stressing, hit the basement, look at a wall, and read a book until they escape. There's just no point in feeding into a survivors ego, if they want to be that sweaty, I will remove their fun.
Second thing, if you're on a losing streak, get a strong, easy to play killer with fun add on's. I myself love scratched mirror meyers on Lerys. I also enjoy playing gatekeeper nurse. Save the best for last, insidious, and noed. Play normally, but when the last gen is getting close, blink behind the exit door and use insidious. If you chose the right door, they open it and get one heck of a surprise.
The last though about this, is the really good survivors are like double bp's for my skill level. Once I play them, I will eventually get average survivors, and I stomp them.
I think the thing is, if I try hard and make predictions of where they are and how good they are and whos the strong links etc, it makes my loses more impactful? I guess my thing is just being too serious and competitive, but of course it's a death sentence considering the sheer RNG level of the game.
RN it's harder to play any good killers because I'm halfway prestiging everyone, and not everyone has the best perks sadly. I got bubba to prestige 3 level 1 and I'm never touching him again haha
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@Mtom912 said:
Nope, killer is pathetically easy at rank 1 now because of how it’s easier to get red rank, the swf matchmaking so half my games I verse a rank 13 or something as well
and survivor is painful unless you’re in a swf, since all you get on solo is potatoes
I've been having very opposite experiences. I think If I just on killer rn, the only way I'll have a chance of winning is if someone DCs or throws, because those have been my only "wins" in the last week.
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@thesuicidefox said:
I'm actually being pushed to play killer more.
Matchmaking at red ranks takes forever as survivor. Solo or SWF. But as killer I can find a game in less than a minute every time.
With old rank reset I could actually play survivor after a reset. Now I'm stuck in lobby simulator forever.
I remedy that with youtube videos on the side tbh :P makes the wait feel non-existant. Plus with Survivor I can watch the videos while playing as I don't need to focus
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@Mr_Digi said:
Why get a penalty when the game crashes.... thats not my fault :(
Considering you only got a penalty in one crash, I'm guessing you previously did quit from a few games. I left one game (for reasonable reasons) and had my game crash twice in the last week and I still have no penalty
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@nyan_painbow said:
the author is a German who doesn't speak English.
The title should be: what have we got
...I'm a white Englishman you donkey
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40 - I'm thinking I need to start playing more :P
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@Sleephartha said:
Evidence just keeps piling up and I don’t see how people can keep denying it. First there was the devs own data that showed 75-80% kill rates. Unfortunately the devs also toss in the “dont draw conclusions” so all the killer mains say it means the data is worthless. Completely wrong but yeah... ok. I stayed away from the forums after that. Then today I read the thread about wraith and notice Tru3tal3nt and Otzdarva tracking their win rates. Whaddya know? They were like 90%. This with wraith and trapper. Along with that are the other people in the thread noting their 3k averages, etc. (Though anecdotal it supports the data).
So.... what is everybody seeing that shows killers being at a disadvantage aside from the occasional beating by high level 4 man swf teams?
I’ll tell you what they’re seeing: nothing. Everyone who complains on here about survivors being entitled and owning the game gives anecdotal, subjective information about their games. All the data and facts continue to show that most games will end with a 3-4k. Thus killers are almost always “winning” whether judging by pipping or in-game experience of kills, and survivors are almost always dying. In this case, since we know survivor pipping is fairly easy, survivors are often winning by pipping but losing by dying.
IMO what these high kill rate data show, and which matches my own experience in game at green thru red ranks, is that survivor game experience is suffering, even though we pip. The exception being those red rank swf squads.
This is also what is pushing me away from the game. It seems killers must have 3k to “win” but survivors can die all day long and “win”. Playability as solo survivor sucks. All day long at all levels you get bad teammates, dcs (which will become suicides on hook), killers with Ultrarare addons, proxy camping, tunnelling, and a multitude of little mechanics that make survivor life suck, like being downed during a pallet stun, getting hit 6 ft thru a window, slow and medium vaults that make no sense...
How about redefining killer wins away from 3ks? Tweak the “win” conditions and balance so that survivors can escape more, more like 50% kill rates, and killers can still “win” via pipping. Right now it seems like pipping is balanced but game experience is very killer sided.
Some days I feel like the game is balanced one way, while some days the complete opposite. It's way too inconsistent to really draw conclusions. yesterday I played like 15 survivor matches solo and survived about 70% of them. The recent killer matches have been similar honestly, but I'm quite a skilled killer, and that's pretty much the main deciding factor - skill.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
That sounds like a lot of work
I'd definitely spent 20 minutes of my time ruining the fun of someone who gets fun from ruining others tbh
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I think it would be best for the health of the game if Moris and Keys were removed.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
What are we discussing? That solo queue is miserable? Yes, it is.
This be a crying thread. I cry a bit then sell the tears to you for an extortionate price
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Medium vaults will usually guarantee a hit, considering the hit box stays there longer. Fast vaults have a lower window of opportunity.
But at times the dedicated servers can screw it up and make the difference in distance different between both players. On the survivor side, they may have been away from the window, while on the killer side, the animation may have only just ended.
I assume that's what you're talking about anyway.
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I'd count myself as a veteran, but you just stop caring when you haven't got to prestige 3 with all characters yet, 4000 more hours to go xD
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Thanks Tom. You know what really grinds my gears?
Toxicity
DCing on both sides
Useless Perks
Gen Speed
Taxation
Quentins Face
C L A U D E T T E
N E A
The death of the pretty good job meme
The comment below me
The inevitability of Killers being eventually nerfed to the point where no one will ever play them again
and most importantly...
THE FACT THAT THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF GOTH SKINS.
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######### I forgot to say "WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY"
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People joking about will not result in a locked discussion. We are all joking here
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@Nyaren_Chan said:
I know it's a troll but meh, to be honest Meg is pretty good for beginners, i love Sprint Burst and Quick & Quiet. Even Adrenaline is pretty decent, can't deny.
@hinoutoumei said:
obviously this is just a troll post..but I can't resist the urge to point out that none of the survivors are any different than each other. Once you unlock all the perks they basically just become reskins, with the exception of Ash who talks. I hope they do something to give each individual survivor either some sort of personality difference or special ability exclusive to them like the killers.. not sure this will ever happen though. Nothing about the survivor aspect of the game actually makes much sense, since according to the game's lore, people have been abducted by the entity since at least the late 1800s, yet..all these characters we play as are from beyond that. This is further complicated by the plague..who comes from ancient babylon. It would be interesting seeing more interesting things happening with survivors (voice acting, special exclusive abilities, more characters from the past ..or even future). If this game is even along much longer, developing for playstation consoles has always proven difficult and since the ps5 is literally a year away it begs the question of whether this game will make it to 6 years let alone 10 (at least on console). Hopefully if it does we will see some more interesting things.
Less of a troll more a ######### post :P I like people joining in over triggering people
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UNO!
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@Sairek I'm conflicted as I love the fact she doesn't have a vault due to her "ethereal"-ness, but I do understand it adds too much to her arsenal.
Let's hope when they do re-work her that they don't ######### it up ROYALLY
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(just a comment to get this back to the top of the recent discussion so new players can give some opinions)
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@Merlin said:
How do survivors escape if the generators haven't been finished or the hatch isn't open?
Since when did the survivors have to escape? If you end up in that situation, accept your fate.
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*shakes violently*
I...I have an addiction
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PWYF, Corrupt Intervention, Ruin, Pop
and if you can, Primer Bulb, Carburetor
Objective: 3 Stacks or DEATH
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Neither.
I play Dead By Daylight.
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HAHAHA YOU ALL FELL FOR MY TRICK! I'LL BE THE MOST UPVOTED PERSON ON THIS FORUM WITHIN THE DAY! >:D
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@arslaN said:
Get ready for "git gud" comments by our entitled killer mains.
Please don't invalidate peoples opinions due to their preference.
I'm so sick and tired of this ######### up "Them vs Us" attitude. Just. STOP.
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@Gcarrara said:
Oh you are so evil @MandyTalk @Gay Myers (Luzi) ! 😮
Don't worry @MineAntoiya, you still have the BHVR Read that you can stop at 666! 😁
Yeah give me 5 years of posting only DBD balance, content, and change ideas LUL
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@Boosted_Dwight said:
I'm gonna do it! >:v
WHICH ONE OF YOU GODDAMN BASEMENT BUBBAS DID IT. I WANT ANSWERS D:<
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that moment someone vocalizes what we've been all thinking.
However, have you seen Otzdarva with Bubba? That is legitimately terrifying...
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@SmokePotion said:
@SpaceCoconut has an old vid that shows most of the core concepts. It's a bit out of date and could use some updating. But it will still teach you how to 4k. check out his youtube channel for it.
I love how you tag the best Hag main...in a post he made himself
10/10 xD
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Biased poll as it assumes people who say No think it's still a grind. With the perk spawn changes, I think the grind has been lowered by a good 50% after level 50 which I'm perfectly happy with.
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*continues pushing the us vs them agenda*
At some point, I'm really gonna stop acting civil :/
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Hex: Dance of Death
*OVERRIDES ALL OTHER HEX PERKS*
Every Totem on the map is converted to a hex totem. Every 20 seconds, a random totem turns blue for 10 seconds. If the hex is cleansed when blue, the survivor who cleansed Aura is always view able when 32 meter away.
Each totem gives 2x the amount of bloodpoints for the cleanse, and to every other action for 30 seconds after.
[I just had this idea and I love it for some reason]
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@LCGaster said:
A killer about drug addiction could be very interesting in my opinion
There are many ways to take it
The drug doesn't have to be something like cocaine, meth, etc.
The killer could even just be an ex athlete that's addicted to steroids or other performance enhancing drugs
It a something that happens IRL too
Steroids can cause someone to become aggressive and violent
I think we keep coming back to the Clown lol. Considering he was an athletic individual who said "######### it" and started indulging on junk food and drugs too.
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something...something...Benedict Baker
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@Fibijean said:
I think this would be super loaded and rather insensitive if they were to implement such a thing. If I understand what you're proposing correctly, I'm against it for two main reasons: drug addiction is a real problem that so many real people struggle with, and using it as the driving force behind the actions of a video game killer could be seen as trivialising the issue. Secondly, it would imply that drug addicts are dangerous and homocidal, which is offensive at best and downright damaging at worst.
Fair points, but to assume that because one video game antagonist is a drug addict that ALL drug addicts are similar is quite a stretch. The devs would be able to cater a backstory that could make the character hated before his descent into substance (again, Sort of like Clown). While it is controversial it does open u an avenue for interesting add-ons, perks, maps etc.
This is a 18+ game so they definitely have the choice to do something, however PR will probably greatly go against it as more people are more sensitive to things these days (not a jab at anyone, just that empathy is much higher nowadays than it was 20 years ago)
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@YaiPa said:
Clown is kinda based on drug addiction and stop taking care of yourself.
"he fell into bad habits. Drinks, junk food, drugs, he indulged in all of them to excess. For a time, these vices were enough, but then his old urges returned and his nomadic existence became a cover for him to resume killing."
Ahh fair enough
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@VNGNCE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/720077#Comment_720077
Styptic not stupid, but with the change to brand new parts and DS there's nothing survivors have that'll tramautically tilt the game with instaheals it's possible and same thing with the brand new parts BUT it's gotta be timed right and MOST of the time there's not 4 survivors using those things.. but all it takes is 1 killer to use a green Mori and kill the 1st guy right off the hook and kapow the game is 99 percent in the killers favor ESPECIALLY if there's 4 gens left with RUIN still up and dont even get me started on Ebony's and op add-ons killers have, stop complaining and get good If you can't learn how counter play simple survivor mechanics and learn how to manage your limited time then killer is NOT for you. What do you want them to do? I MAIN PIG and get 3 and 4Ks all the time dude. I'm in purple ranks for killer but i play killer when I get bored playing RR survivor( I play solo and alot of times the randoms suck and most of the time it's the same killers being played at rank 1)
I've done 3 man escapes when one guy quits straight after loading in. It isn't impossible and based on the skill of the players. It's not always so obviously a win.
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Drink About It, a song by Issues on Spotify
Been listening to this all day. FINALLY a good song from them since their first album
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@Skylanxer said:
I use: Balanced Landing, Adrenaline, Decisive Strike, and Inner Strength. Am I a tryhard when I only come with perks and no items? lol I mean the guy was entitled, but don't label everyone who uses meta perks for killer or survivor as tryhard.
Could be worse, could use one of the many purple items + Red add-ons for survivors, could use one of the many Mori or red add-ons to make my killer have a free 4k. Let people play whatever perks they want, it is proven to work well.
It was mainly for the DC. If someone played normally and took a loss with these perks it wouldn't annoy me at all. But in the context it's more noticeable for the stereotype. I run Spine Chill, WGLF, Sprint Burst and Urban Evasion. I don't expect anyone to have a go at my perks if I've played normally unless they're 110% salty 'cause they lost
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Thank you. I was having trouble with my homework
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@baron said:
Try playing survivor. Experience the reason most want to play killer
The reasons to play Survivor out stack Killer.
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@Darkskies said:
Probably trying to hide shame in that locker... the shame of being un able to handle a defeat gracefully and be a good sport.. But seems to happen alot hopefully you didn't lose out on you bbq stack or anything.
Props to you guys out there that can handle the game but it's very few and far between sadly.
🐷💖
I was one of the SURVIVORS LUL. Just hate it when teammates let me down
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We're Gonna Live Forever and BBQ and Chili
POINTS OVER PEOPLE, YOU'RE WORTH NOTHING ELSE, I LIVE ONLY FOR STACKS MUHAHAHAH
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@Nicholas said:
The same can be said about a number of things, decisive strike and borrow time are so popular because many killers tunnel and camp!
It's the context. Don't act like it's the same reason (toxicity) everytime
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Rank 10 for Killer is modestly ok. Queues are like 3+ minutes
Survivor Rank 3 is ok, but survivors are being more potatoe than usual
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imo the current ui does the job as well as we need. Having pretty much all of the UI on the left side of the screen is distracting, especially with the size.
Perhaps in order for the current UI to tell you what survivor they're playing as, it gives a specific coloured outline to the status in the bottom left. So Bill would be Green, Adam would be White, Feng would be blue (This wouldn't change based on outfit)
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I'm going to ignore the horror game talk in favour of acid, rainbow vomit, and liquid cheese. This game stopped being horror at 50 hours. LET'S GO FULL ON MEME
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Sometimes I find a post that reflects the complete opposite experience from mine. I've had like 2 douchebag killers in my last 20 survivor games, but I've had a good few survivors get cockey in my last 5 killer games.
Also I wonder what you define as unsportsmanlike
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@justarandy said:
Fear of puke... Hmm I mean puke is disgusting I agree. But fear? Well, I guess welcome to 2019 when fears towards anything exists nowadays.
Back topic: idc honestly, but it might end up looking cool so I agree on the suggestion.
@ProfessorDunwich said:
She is called the Plague for a reason. The plague is central to her character. This is a horror based game. It can't be tailored for every sensitivity. Same goes for pretty much any other media. There are some things I don't like in this game, but I would not argue for them to be replaced.
It's easy to disregard something when you don't have it yourself. I'm sure there's people in this world that, when they see someone vomiting, feel the need to vomit themselves, or hell, maybe just shake violently. If they made a new skin to counter this then there would be nothing lost - everyone would get a new skin, and the few people it does effect would be massively grateful. Sensitivity is not a factor when it comes to hardcore aspects of the human psyche :P
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@Almo said:
I don't farm during Blood Hunts. I do, however, make an earnest endeavor not to tunnel anyone. I'm not ordinarily a tunneler, but during BHs I try not to hook the same person twice in a row.
I do get a lot of choice insults when the Survivors who want to farm find out I'm playing for real though. :D
I love the idea of someone talking ######### in the after game chat without realizing they're one of the people that actually makes the game they're playing. I get funny visions of a random "You have been banned for 72 hours - Yours truly, that Dev you talked ######### about the other day :) "