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  • Camping has been an announced feature since the beta. Insidious is a camping perk. Leatherface is the king of basement camping.

    Yet survivor mains somehow think that camping is bannable.
  • Nickenzie said:
    Hey, I noticed that multiple amount of killer or killvivor mains say that generators are completed too fast. This isn't fun for both the survivor and killer because the killer has no chance of sacrificing survivors and the survivor is just doing skill checks for the entire trial. So I have a solution to this and hopefully you'll enjoy! :)

    Generators will now have 3 steps that survivors will need to complete to power on the generator.

    Step 1: Repair

    The survivor will have to do a 80 second repair on the generator. After the survivors have completed the 80 second repair, the generator will take 10 seconds to move on to step 2 "Ready". The pistons that move on the generator when you repair it will no longer move since you haven't turned the generator on, you just repaired it.

    The killer can regress the repair progress by damaging the generator. Doing so will cause an instant 10% repair progress loss and then normal regression will take effect after the instant repair loss.

    Step 2: Ready

    Since the generator is now repaired, it's now ready to be powered on. When standing at one of the sides of the generator, you'll get an option to "Pull". The survivor will do a 5 second animation pulling a piece of string attempting to start the generator. After completing the animation, the survivor will have a 25% chance to successfully get the generator to start up. If the survivor fails then the survivor will need to try again after the animation. When the survivor successfully starts up the generator, the generator will move on to step 3 "Warming Up".

    The killer can grab the survivor during the "Pull" animation but the killer cannot do anything to the generator during the "Ready" step.

    Step 3: Warming Up

    After the survivor has started up the generator, it'll take 80 more seconds for the generator to completely warm up and output full power. The survivor cannot interact with the generator during the "Warming Up" step but can see the progress by standing beside the generator. The pistons will begin to move as the generator begins to warm up since now it's beginning to power on.

    The killer can kick the generator and slow the "Warming Up" step by 50%. So, if the killer kicks the generator immediately after the survivor starts the generator, it'll instead take 160 seconds for the generator to completely warm up and output full power.

    Complete:

    Once the generator has completed it's warm up, the generator is completely repaired and finished.

    What do you guys think? Hopefully this was a creative idea because I really think that this would work! :)
    I like 1, because that 10% regression would stop gen tapping mid chase.
    Not sure about 2. Something similar could be achieved with a different objective.
    But 3 is a no go. Yes, gens would be done slower, but since neither survivors nor the killer can interact with it (after that one slowdown hit). It would be boring for survivors. Because nothing to do, and boring for killers, because where do they search the survivors?

    Survivors need more (interesting) objectives. 
    Gasoline, parts for the gens, locks on the exit gate interruptor (where survivors have to find keys during the match), etc.
  • Nickenzie said:
    Tsulan said:
    I agree. 
    Can't wait to have the developers spoon feed me a free win :lol:

    However in all seriousness, please don't make playing a survivor be so stupidly easy, thanks!
    I would love a hardcore mode. Where killers are actually scary.
  • Tsulan said:
    @not_Queen or @Peanits, where can I apply?
    You guys clearly need help. 
    I volunteer and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
    Marry me
    Uhm... what?
  • Orion said:

    @Tsulan said:
    It's not a variation of Spanish. It's actually closer to French. But neither Spanish nor French will understand Catalan. Or at least most part of it.

    Catalans are very proud of their language and culture. Btw, I'm not Catalan.

    Oh and thx!

    I've read it, and it seems to mix Italian (which I'm learning) and Spanish (which I speak, among others).

    Let's agree that it's not a variation or dialect. But a different language.
    My wife is from Catalonia and when I met her parents for the first time, I almost didn't understand anything, because they were used to speak Catalan between themselves. Back then I spoke Spanish but only a little bit Catalan.
  • powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:
    powerbats said:

    I speak English, I still remember some of my German and Spanish from school and my ex fiancee. I also speak fluent nerd. I also have no life and am up at odd hours of the day which probably means i'm overqualified.

    Nerd like... Klingon?

    Qapla

    Well actually I speak many dialects of nerd including ancient nerd.

    tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhaHbe’,
  • powerbats said:

    I speak English, I still remember some of my German and Spanish from school and my ex fiancee. I also speak fluent nerd. I also have no life and am up at odd hours of the day which probably means i'm overqualified.

    Nerd like... Klingon?
  • Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Orion said:

    These were new accounts. The others were all banned or got caught by the filter. Furthermore, this isn't any one individual; it's a group of individuals. Lastly, there isn't a "lack of moderation", the mods just don't cover enough timezones.
    
    
    
    We need to cover more timezones.
    

    They also should have made the requirement to post in this forum, that you have your steam, ps4 or Xbox account linked.

    This would have reduced the amount of spam accounts.

    Sure it would be better to cover all timezones, but the real problem is that they dont have enough manpower to go through the reports at all. The timezone argument might be valid for the forum being spammed, but what about ingame bannable offenses being ignored for weeks, months or sometimes forever

    The ingame report system is being reworked. 
    No idea what they are going to improve. But as long as people report for useless stuff like camping, slugging, etc. (Which are desired game features.) The response time won't improve. Since it's to much spam from angry kiddies.

    Yeah yeah its being "reworked"
    Just like the maps were supposed to be reworked or the pallet loops were reworked in order to make mindgames possible

    It will never happen, prove me wrong :wink:

    I can't. No one knows exactly how the new system looks. Unless they release it or show something during a dev stream, we'll have to guess.
  • Master said:

    @Lowbei said:
    “Survivors shouldnt feel safe in front of the killer” - devs

    (the required disclaimer: ive got 1800hrs and been rank1 on both sides at the end of the season dozens of times)

    knowing that looping is a problem, why are we nerfing bloodlust?

    Bloodlust vs a skilled survivor is already nearly useless, since after looping him for long enough to get enough bloodlust to catch me, i can just drop the pallet and force em to lose bloodlust when he breaks it, then its off to the next pallet.

    what seems extremely obvious to me, a survivor main, is that survivors raged and review bombed after the last patch, and the devs solution was to cave to one of the items on the survivor main checklist on the road to starting the match with the gates open. press 3 to twerk at the exit gate.

    the point of bloodlust, was that the devs say the map assets need to be fixed to prevent looping, yet i see no map fixes in the notes, just a nerf that will cause even more “being safe in front of the killer.”

    This is what happens when devs arrogantly assume that they know the gameplay better than the players, and make decisions based on their own rank 15ish experience. The obvious solution is to have a small group of the most experienced players (not streamers), on both sides, review your potential decisions. The near universal opinion of your veteran players, was that the last patch was the first step in the right direction in a long time... only for you to then immediately sabotage yourselves by caving to a tiny 500ish player review bomb. Well, since it worked, next time they will bomb you much harder.

    Just let the devs hand out the free win to survivors and watch from the backseat how they panic once queue time rises because killers abandon the game.

    I agree. 
  • Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Orion said:

    These were new accounts. The others were all banned or got caught by the filter. Furthermore, this isn't any one individual; it's a group of individuals. Lastly, there isn't a "lack of moderation", the mods just don't cover enough timezones.

    We need to cover more timezones.
    They also should have made the requirement to post in this forum, that you have your steam, ps4 or Xbox account linked.
    This would have reduced the amount of spam accounts.

    Sure it would be better to cover all timezones, but the real problem is that they dont have enough manpower to go through the reports at all. The timezone argument might be valid for the forum being spammed, but what about ingame bannable offenses being ignored for weeks, months or sometimes forever

    The ingame report system is being reworked. 
    No idea what they are going to improve. But as long as people report for useless stuff like camping, slugging, etc. (Which are desired game features.) The response time won't improve. Since it's to much spam from angry kiddies.
  • Make a requirement to post on this forum, that you link your steam, ps4 or Xbox account.
    Make a special "new players" subforum where those limitations don't apply, but instead require a captcha.
  • Orion said:

    These were new accounts. The others were all banned or got caught by the filter. Furthermore, this isn't any one individual; it's a group of individuals. Lastly, there isn't a "lack of moderation", the mods just don't cover enough timezones.

    We need to cover more timezones.
    They also should have made the requirement to post in this forum, that you have your steam, ps4 or Xbox account linked.
    This would have reduced the amount of spam accounts.
  • @Tsulan said:
    I speak English, Spanish, German, Catalan and have a degree in International Trade.

    I speak English, and can count to 10 in Italian and Mandarin.

    Am I qualified?

    popoles said:
    Tsulan said:
    Lowbei said:


    On their website it says to send your resume to [email protected]

    best of luck im rooting for you!

    srsly tho im interested in your qualifications
    I speak English, Spanish, German, Catalan and have a degree in International Trade.
    I speak Czech, English and German. Can I join this multilanguage party?
    Yes, you both can ;)
  • Orion said:

    @Tsulan said:
    I speak English, Spanish, German, Catalan and have a degree in International Trade.

    Let's be honest, you speak English, Spanish, German, and what amounts to a variant of Spanish. Still impressive, though.

    It's not a variation of Spanish. It's actually closer to French. But neither Spanish nor French will understand Catalan. Or at least most part of it.

    Catalans are very proud of their language and culture. Btw, I'm not Catalan.

    Oh and thx!
  • Tsulan said:
    Tsulan said:
    Nickenzie said:
    ChraizE said:



    Is this what you are referring to?

    This would definitely be great addition to DbD! Now I don't want any super buffed male or female because then you'd get questions like... "If (s)he is so strong then why don't they just KO the killer?"
    Results may vary*
    Dating her would give the term hit and run new meaning.
    Depending on who hits whom.
    I wasn't talking about that type of hitting...[insert lenny face here]
    Badum tsss
  • Tsulan said:
    Nickenzie said:
    A single survivor which is 25% of the killer's objective shouldn't be able to loop a killer for 3 generators which is 60% of a survivors objective. Additionally the survivor still needs to be hooked 2 more times before you actually do complete 25% of your killer objective. See the problem? A survivor can complete their objective WAY too fast than a killer can complete theirs.
    Your calculation is wrong.
    It's not 25% of the killers objective but 8,33% since every survivor has 3 lives. Killer has to get 12 hooks in the same time as survivors have to do 5 gens. That's 1,25 gen per survivor or 100 seconds to complete 1 and 1/4 gens as a single survivor. Even less if survivors use toolboxes. 

    Its not wrong, a survivor is still only 1/4th of a team and they can die on the first hook. Even though its rare.
    Considering that someone who dies on the first hook, either does it to troll, because he's the last survivor or because he gets camped (in that case the killer wastes 2 minutes to skip several chases). 
    I'd say my numbers are closer to reality than the 25% of him. Otherwise we wouldn't have the balance problems we have right now.
  • Lowbei said:


    On their website it says to send your resume to [email protected]

    best of luck im rooting for you!

    srsly tho im interested in your qualifications
    I speak English, Spanish, German, Catalan and have a degree in International Trade.
  • No mither should start uninjured and not have a that heal icon in the status bar for killers.

    Support perks like botany knowledge, streetwise, leader, etc. Should give way higher bonuses.
    People want to spend 3 perks to have a regular heal speed with SC? So be it.
  • Esheon said:
    You can use Unbreakabill if you hate slugging.
    Unbreakable, Tenacity, or No Mither. All punish slugging to some degree, and IMO Unbreakable + Tenacity is especially good for that.
    But, but my DS, SC, SB, BT build...
  • Chrona said:

    @Global said:

    @Chrona said:
    Could someone explain what's going on? I have no context for this thread

    Bloodlust is being nerfed

    Yes, I had gathered that much. How so? Severely? Is it being removed entirely? How do we know? Do you have the source?

    Specifics are always welcome.

    Old bloodlust gives a speed bonus of 0,2/0,6/1,2 m/s after 15/30/45 seconds.
    New bloodlust gives 0,2/0,4/0,6 same time.
  • Lowbei said:
    powerbats said:

    I've been getting froum locked because I report too quickly #########. But they've got 74 as of last count 10 mins ago on the 1st 4 pages from several different posters. I wish they'd give us the ability to block them till a mod takes care of it ie hide them.

    I'd stake my forum privileges on being able to hide spam posts for further review by regular mods. If I abuse it than revoke my posting rights for x time or permanently. But this is ridiculous that it happens every 2 weeks like clockwork or so.

    agreed. they need a late night mod, and you would be a good one.
    This is madness!
  • Nickenzie said:
    A single survivor which is 25% of the killer's objective shouldn't be able to loop a killer for 3 generators which is 60% of a survivors objective. Additionally the survivor still needs to be hooked 2 more times before you actually do complete 25% of your killer objective. See the problem? A survivor can complete their objective WAY too fast than a killer can complete theirs.
    Your calculation is wrong.
    It's not 25% of the killers objective but 8,33% since every survivor has 3 lives. Killer has to get 12 hooks in the same time as survivors have to do 5 gens. That's 1,25 gen per survivor or 100 seconds to complete 1 and 1/4 gens as a single survivor. Even less if survivors use toolboxes. 

    Killer needs 45 seconds to get bloodlust 3 which resets on a pallet, hit, or if the game thinks you lost the survivor.

    This event demonstrates again how ridiculously fast gens can be done. I really hope the devs take the data of this event to balance the game, but I doubt it.

    Bloodlust shouldn't even be in the game. Since it's a bandaid to the looping problem which doesn't even solve looping. 

    The game announces itself as horror game. But the only ones who feel horrified, are the killers when survivors run to a building.
  • Tsulan said:
    Nickenzie said:
    ChraizE said:



    Is this what you are referring to?

    This would definitely be great addition to DbD! Now I don't want any super buffed male or female because then you'd get questions like... "If (s)he is so strong then why don't they just KO the killer?"
    Results may vary*
    Dating her would give the term hit and run new meaning.
    Depending on who hits whom.
  • Thankfully I equipped BT. Now I'm gonna unhook and we all escape. Oh wait...
  • Lowbei said:
    @Homer2017

    you are violating forum rules. you may not witch hunt here, and ignorance of the rules is not an excuse to break them.

    you are lucky that these nice people were willing to tell you what youve done wrong. you have been informed. refusal to remove your links may result in a forum ban.
    Any news on when you start as mod?
    in sorry Comment by Tsulan
  • The forum bots have been bypassed again. Happened twice this week.
  • Nickenzie said:
    ChraizE said:



    Is this what you are referring to?

    This would definitely be great addition to DbD! Now I don't want any super buffed male or female because then you'd get questions like... "If (s)he is so strong then why don't they just KO the killer?"
    Results may vary*
  • @IronWolf115 said:
    I hope they play Leatherface, Freddy and Wraith so that they realise how terrible those killers are and then decide " Hey these killers are pretty weak, let's buff them ".

    I mean this BTW i'm not trolling just in case it sounds like that.

    They already said they were buffing Freddy and Wraith. They already showed what they planned to do with Wraith.

    Sounds like trolling b/c they've already acknowledged these concerns. It's in the Dev streams/q&as.

    But you know about the big announcement of the Wraith cube, yes? Where they promised a complete overhaul and delivered a QoL change with some nerfs to uncloaking.

    So I'd be a little more cautious on what they promise. We could get a big deception.
  • Nice suggestions.
    I don´t like the BT effect, but the rest sounds neat.

  • Could you elaborate on those OP killers? Also it would be interesting to know your rank...

  • powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:
    powerbats said:

    @finitethrills said:

    Thrill of The Hunt
    
    Devour Hope
    
    Ruin
    
    Do I really need to go on here since survivors will always break dull totems whether NOED exists or not. It's also amazing how when NOED is used killers still complain about gen rushing. I always break totems since the killer might be running Devour Hope which is even worse than NOED because then you not only get downed instantly but can get killed without ever going near the hook.
    
    Throw Devour in with one of the other perks like Warden etc and you can wreck them.
    

    You realize all those perks cause the totem to be lit, right? If you see ruin and go around breaking dull totems to try and get rid of it...

    You realize that Devour Hope isn't lit up until it's actually active so when it activates it catches you by surprise. Throw that in with the late game perks and you destroy teams, especially on maps that are better rng wise. Get a good killer and it's even more powerful.

    Devour Hope is lit like every other hex totem. You can usually see them from the distance, since they look like a burning torch.

    I've only ever seen it lit once it's active in my games, Ruin and Thrill I know are always lit and NOEd when it goes active. But when I've done all 5 totems myself and none have ever been active I've seen post game the killer had Devour Hope as a perk.

    That's why I said what I did because it's never been lit for me.

    You just didn't found it before.
  • @SnakeSound222 said:

    The hatch changes and pallet changes were already being discussed since Feb-March. They were already considering killer woes LONG before patch 2.0.0.

    Except they gave in to the whining Survivors and changed the hatch to where it still makes escaping too easy as the last Survivor and it took them way too long to implement the pallet fixes (they should've been implemented over a year ago).

    "Gave in to whining survivors". Of course, because player feedback and objective PTB game statistics aren't good enough reasons to consider.

    Maybe it's less about Devs not listening, and more about your need for every change to go your way.

    @Tsulan said:
    I wonder what rank they'll play.
    During a dev stream they played on rank 20 with people that never played before.
    So I expect something like that.

    I wish they played more often against the community. But I fear that the community plays toxic instead of pointing out the flaws in their game.

    A lot of game developers use player testers and focus groups made of players for this purpose.

    So does bhvr. Haven't you seen that girl that plays on rank 20?
  • That makes as much sense as teabagging the killer after each pallet or window. How many people would do that irl?
  • I wonder what rank they'll play.
    During a dev stream they played on rank 20 with people that never played before.
    So I expect something like that.

    I wish they played more often against the community. But I fear that the community plays toxic instead of pointing out the flaws in their game.
  • powerbats said:

    @finitethrills said:

    Thrill of The Hunt

    Devour Hope

    Ruin

    Do I really need to go on here since survivors will always break dull totems whether NOED exists or not. It's also amazing how when NOED is used killers still complain about gen rushing. I always break totems since the killer might be running Devour Hope which is even worse than NOED because then you not only get downed instantly but can get killed without ever going near the hook.

    Throw Devour in with one of the other perks like Warden etc and you can wreck them.

    You realize all those perks cause the totem to be lit, right? If you see ruin and go around breaking dull totems to try and get rid of it...

    You realize that Devour Hope isn't lit up until it's actually active so when it activates it catches you by surprise. Throw that in with the late game perks and you destroy teams, especially on maps that are better rng wise. Get a good killer and it's even more powerful.

    Devour Hope is lit like every other hex totem. You can usually see them from the distance, since they look like a burning torch.
  • Tsulan said:
    I always say gg. But I know what you mean. Unless the survivors could teabag at the exit gate, they rarely say gg.
    They don't like to be outplayed.
    Had a match as Leatherface against 2 swf with flashlights. They would blind me when there was even the slightest bit of my fov exposed.

    I slowly took them down. They flashlight saved 4 times. I didn't camp or hit them on the hook.

    End game chat: gg team, bg killer. Noob killer.
    That reminds me of this one time as Pig when I caught the last survivor (before a single gen was done), farmed with him, killed him (didn't wanna waste 5 minutes as I had Dying Light on) and was called a noob trash killer.

    I have no skill because I use the "stupidly broken OP Pig"
    "You know you're bad killer, when you have to use Freddy to win"
    "Freddy pay2win"
    "Leatherface pay2win noob camper"

    I got tons of those compliments
  • Zanfer said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Zanfer said:

    I say it doesn't matter cause flashlights are completely useless in this meta anyways. If you can't deal with a flashlight that is your fault as the killer not the survivors who are bringing an item in.

    Flashlights are useless?
    That's strange. I have no problem getting a save. Have you tried aiming at the head?

    Every time I tried to flashlight save someone, I managed to do it. With flashlights I found in a chest, since I don't bring flashlights into a match.

    You can drop the survivor and the blind doesn't go through so I don't know what you are talking about sir. Even if you aim and do a perfect flashlight save I will deny it..

    Then I'll run away and either lure you away, so someone else can heal or wait until you turn around to pick up again.

    Either way, survivor gets rescued. Might take more charges, but since I wouldn't have used it in the first place, I don't care.
  • @Tsulan said:
    This game is terrible on Xbox. If enough salty survivors report you, they can ban you from playing any multiplayer games.

    Never should have released it on Xbox. 
    Survivors are toxic on every platform.

    Just FYI they don't ban you from multiplayer for reports alone. Reports for anything other the profile or comms only affects your rep, which used to block you from playing games but AFAIK they removed that feature. It's also based on a ratio of players encountered online vs. number of reports, which is why it's easier to lose rep on a new account than an older one. I've had mine for 13 years, currently have maybe 30 reports against me for stuff like "cheating" but no impact to my rep because I've played with thousands of players over the years. In fact the only time my rep ever dipped was for about a month back when Xbox One first came out and they introduced the new rep system (which at the time was broken AF).

    But you can't get banned from this game for reports. The worst that happens is you get a rep of "needs work" or "avoid me" (which as killer I do if I see that on your profile, but that's by choice). You could a year ago but not anymore.

    If you want to stay out of "needs work" or "avoid me" play games like Fortnite, PUBG, Minecraft, etc., that have a lot of players in a game that won't report you. Once you build up that list of players encountered then it's a lot harder for salty players to bomb your rep.

    It's also a bit entitled to say they should have never released the game on Xbox. From what I've seen, PC and PS players are just as salty, if not moreso, than Xbox players. Moreso only because you can be more toxic on those platforms and get away with it, where on Xbox actual toxic players get punished pretty quick. I mean I had a buddy that got a comm ban mid-game while we were in a party because he sent an angry message to a killer a few days earlier. If a message gets reported and it is indeed toxic, MS does something about it. It's actually one of the best things about Xbox, because to me it looks like no other company will punish toxic players.

    Not everyone has a 13 years old account on Xbox.
    So new players might be forced to play games they don't like in order to protect themselves from unjustified reports from salty or toxic players.
    This report function doesn't punish the most toxic, but the one with the most reports. Which happens to be the killer. 

    Xbox suffers from framedrops and nurse is almost unplayable on certain maps. 
    So I don't think it's entitlement to think that this game should never have been released on Xbox.

    But hey, if you are fine with those problems, then that's ok for me. Since it doesn't affect me.
    So just enjoy the game.

    Not gonna start a war on what platform is the best one. Or has the greatest benefits.
    Farewell
  • This game is terrible on Xbox. If enough salty survivors report you, they can ban you from playing any multiplayer games.

    Never should have released it on Xbox. 
    Survivors are toxic on every platform.
  • @Peasant said:
    TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Peasant said:

    TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @popoles said:
    
    I am one of the killers who don't change their build based on items survivors have. I'll maybe throw in burn immunity to my wraith, but that's all.
    
    
    
    thats why i said 99% but thank you for making the game less toxic will you marry me nurse? im sorry about tagging your asylum.
    
    
    
    ". . . thank you for making the game less toxic . . ."
    

    "NEW TROLL TO THE KILLER WORKS 99% OF THE TIME!"

    Since you are lying about your loudout by last-second switching you are being toxic. Yet at the same time you wish for less toxicity. Can you not see the irony in your statement?

    well if i didn't have to last second switch from nothing to what i want to use like a flashlight every lobby cause the killer at rank 4 doesn't want to "deal with the toxic" then i wouldn't be suggesting this cause the ones that dont switch to light-born and or Franklin's and the only way to really fix this problem is to not allow the killer to see the survivors only the name

    The killer has every right to see survivors and prepare perks to counter them. They have to kill 4 players who each have 3 lives, all within 5 minutes. Sometimes I run sabotage on Jake. The killer has every right to counter that with Hangman's as without them I don't even have a match.

    i could say the same thing the survivors should be able to see the killer and be able to put the right perks on to prepare for him or her. and not everyone plays SWF and not everyone saves people. most games i play i save people ASAP but others dont.... they instead wait until i am in struggle or dont save me at all most of the time i get 1 life not 3. most games i play the survivors dont know how to get all the gens done they hide so games for me last 10 - 20 minutes not 5. just because your experience's on PC are fast doesn't mean that its the same for me on Xbox. i wouldn't care about any of this if the killer didn't dodge every other lobby or DC in the loading screen cause they see a Nea in dark brown clothing with dark hair and a flashlight. or they put on light-born and or Franklin's demise and basically ruin any chance i have of flashlight saving since i have to be in front of the killer at 1 sec to start flashlight saving since it take 2 full secs to blind a killer with no add-on's that affect it.

    No, not everyone plays swf. Only 70% of all matches contain swf.
    So you are mad because you don't get a free effortless flashlight save. 
    Maybe work for that save?
  • Btw. Go search tunnelling on the urban dictionary.
    You're in for a surprise.
  • Congratulations! You reached the point where playing survivor became so dull, that you only enjoy playing, when you can bully the killer.
    Don't forget to take DS and to dc the moment the killer downs you.
  • @Mikessnow said:
    Since I started playing killers and it's so easy to play, I'm surprised if I don't get everyone after every game. Looking in dead by daylights community section today shows me that people say it's balanced or killers are not strong enough

    It´s balanced towards survivors. Rank killer up and you´ll see yourself.

  • @White_Owl said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @White_Owl said:
    Eh, I think Doc is in a very good spot. He is not considered so good because his power has more depth than average and so requires some understanding but believe me he can do very well at rank 1. Obviously not if you play him to make skillchecks harder and make survivors scream, which works only on noobs and potatoes.

    That´s why i proposed more illusions. Fake open and closed windows, fake survivors and doctors.

    Yeah that is a good suggestion (I missed your reply). Allow the Doctor to play more with survivors' minds, not just "make them scream more".

    A bit off topic: sometime ago I saw a Doctor using Insidious to trick survivors into believing he was illusion just to smack them as soon as they went too near. Don't know if it was effective in the long term, but it was amazing

    He defineatly should play more with the minds of the survivors. Tricking them to fear other survivors and to "ignore" him, because they think he´s fake.

  • @White_Owl said:
    Eh, I think Doc is in a very good spot. He is not considered so good because his power has more depth than average and so requires some understanding but believe me he can do very well at rank 1. Obviously not if you play him to make skillchecks harder and make survivors scream, which works only on noobs and potatoes.

    That´s why i proposed more illusions. Fake open and closed windows, fake survivors and doctors.

  • @Peanits said:
    I've seen some good doctors that are able to time the shocks to prevent vaults/pallets and get a hit pretty reliably. Is he top tier? No, not really.

    The thing is, most of the suggestions I see attempt to make him more of a chasing killer. I don't really think this is the right way to go about it. Making him a chasing killer is making him something he's not (e.g. Hag is a defensive killer, not designed to be powerful in chases, but powerful in controlling a section of the map). The doctor's power is mostly to find/track survivors and slow down generator progress through madness.

    The only thing I might want to see changed is madness itself. It's too easy to snap out of it, so applying madness to someone and breaking off to keep the pressure up and slow down progress isn't worth doing. It stops them from working on generators, but the second you aren't chasing them they can very easily just snap out of it and go back to working on generators. If the time to snap out of it was increased, or maybe a secondary objective was added to snap out of it, I feel like that would be better.

    Basically, make him his own dude, not just another chase killer. I don't like seeing every killer shuffled towards being chase focused. If his gimmick is being able to control objectives better than other killers and slow them down, that's great, that's his own unique playstyle.

    We had some pretty amazing ideas for the doctor on this thread:
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/90114#Comment_90114

  • That´s normal.
    Matchmaking is a mess. Players with 1000+ hours derank to bully (or stomp) new players.
    You´ll get a lot of toxic comments and reports, when you play as killer.
    Game is balanced around survivors and people disconnect the moment they get downed first.

    On the plus side, it´s an incredible addicting game. With a unique game play. Which can give you thousands of hours of frustration and joy (yes, both at the same time).

  • @SovererignKing said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Mr_Jay_Stark said:

    SovererignKing said:

    Mr_Jay_Stark said:
    
    I mean I could write a whole wall of text regarding this but no one will read it so I’ll just say I don’t think it’s necessarily the perks that are the problem I believe it’s the mechanics of the game that’s the issue. 
    
    Thank god someone else said it as well. I wouldn’t mind DS if the game was balanced for it. NOED... well... I don’t think I’d ever agree with that perk. Suddenly flipping the game like that is kind of cheesy.
    
    Sorry for posting it again but : 
    
    This Huntress had plenty of time without Gen Rush to do well. I did break two totems and was anticipating NOED. I’m sure the rest of my team broke at least two themselves. So because we missed one totem some where, this Killer went from maybe a 2k if he camped that last guy out to a 4K. Never mind he played terrible (You can watch, I had eyes on him the whole match.) He couldn’t land hatchets at all and missed swings like crazy. Me and the 3 other Survivors got cheated out an escape we deserved. All because of one perk. 
    

    I don’t even know how she let both you and Quentin get away at the beginning. Yea she was terrible but I always cringe when I see killers like huntress or anyone with one shot capabilities (unless running add-ons to prevent them from doing so) running NOED! She needed more practice! I’d ask how she got to rank 8 but I think I know how lol

    Maybe not used to play Huntress and got a daily.

    Happens to me all the time.

    He doesn’t usually play Huntress. I’ve faced him multiple times, he usually plays Leatherface with Insidious and NOED. I get that in the current meta, NOED can be used as a perk to balance Gen Rush games, but at the same time what’s balanced for good Killers that get Gen Rushed can easily carry bad Killers. It’s not as bad as how much DS carries bad Survivors mind you, but it’s the principle that irks me. 

    The developers need to do something about Gen Rush and bad map balance. Then do something about NOED. DS is already on the chopping block, NOED needs to go or changed as well. However, only after the developers do something about Gen Rush and poor map design. 

    There ya go. Someone who got a daily with a killer/survivor he´s not used to.
    Not discussing about NOED.

    We can agree to disagree on this one ;)
    Maybe once we get better endgame perks and people can actually prepare a strategy around that. Maybe than we will discuss again.
    I personally would love it, if Blood Warden was activatable just like DH. Pressing a button. Maybe keep the 1 hook requirement after gates are powered (not open). So i makes more sense.

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