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Iron Maiden... How are you complaining about it
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They're both hot
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@Edilibs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2637071#Comment_2637071
Your opinions are factually wrong? Lol this will keep going back and forth when you say things like that. Wwhat you SHOULD say is that i "dont agree" with your tier list then explain "why" you disagree. All the killers are appropriately placed in they're correct position this includes A and C+ tierings. I already explained why there is no tier below C+ even with boon totems as meta. If you ask me i'll tell you personally how i came to this conclusion. Freddy is better than Demogorgon imo. Am i open to putting Demogorgon higher? Maybe. Right now i dont see him higher than he is but i can keep an open mind.
Imagine telling a top player, pro or someone really strong at a game thay they're playing a at a low level and not a high level and that the only reason why they win is because they are going against nothing but bad players and thats why they win...Its the same thing, you dont know anything about me as a player but instead of disagreeing on a tiering etc and then telling me why your saying im playing at a low MMR and this is why tiers are not valid! lol Right! Thats why im responding to you the way i am. You can disagree and bring up points and im fine with that but telling me im playing low MMR or that i only have 100 hours or whatever some idiot replied to me about how good i am is not the way to go when having a topic discusiion, especially about tiers.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2637080#Comment_2637080
They are not all C tier killers those killers mentioned are good.We clearly are playing at different levels and or you dont understand this game on the killer side. Do you main killer? Who do you play with if you do, how well do you do with them and at what rank?
I've disagreed respectfully and explained why, and you kept saying that they are where they should be. You didn't even explain why there is no Killer lower than C, you just said "If they're lower than C, that means they barely get 1 kill" which is what happens at high MMR as Pig or Trapper for example
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Chase music
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This would be fine, aside from the DS skill check you mentioned
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@JohnWeak said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2625551#Comment_2625551
Demo, PH, Plague and Spirit are clearly not tier A, especially at high MMR.
They are all really weak M1 killers. For me they are all tier C.
Blight is Tier A, not higher.
Everything else i agree.
I'd agree on PH, but his tunneling capability is the best in the game so I gotta give him that.
Demogorgon might just be bias lol.
Plague counters Boons completely and her Corrupt Purge is one of the best Antiloops in the game, baking able to hit over most loops
Spirit has MDR with DCB which make sher better than pre nerf Spirit (should probably get MDR nerfed next time they rebalance spirit again)
Blight is S tier because of his insane mobility and 1v1 (flicks are amazing)
Also Hag is under Blight, I accidentally put her over him
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He takes too much skill for his very lackluster reward mid chase and his Passive is garbage without addons (which got killed) and perks. Also the NFT came up which understandably made people not want to support Pinhead
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@Edilibs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2632982#Comment_2632982
I dont need to go against SWF to prove to you how good i am. i dont give a sh** about swf or proving anything to you. Dont manipulate things! You said i play at low or mid MMR while your playing and or talking about high MMR which is an insult but its more ignorance than anything just fall back your not gonna win this, your in the wrong!!!
I never insulted you? I just said you're probably playing at low to mid MMR because most of the Killers you placed at A tier are not A tier. You don't have to prove anything, I'm just not going to belive you're playing at high MMR because most of your opinions are factually wrong, like for example that Demogorgon is not consistently better than Freddy and Nemesis, or that no Killer is below C tier.
Why are you so defensive?
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@Nos37 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2636710#Comment_2636710
So, throw on hex perks = wins because survivors can never cleanse... 👍️
Do the box
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@WyldStayls said:
Or is it me. I have played with Bubba as the killer 4 times today and the whole team goes down in a moment. And this is with even seasoned players. He needs to be buffed, very very irritating and unfair. I can't even get decent bloodpoints.
Bubba has normal movement speed. If his chainsaw is problematic, use windows and you'll be fine
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@Kira4Evr said:
Definitely not. He does not need to be more oppressive than he already is
Trickster isn't even close to being oppressive lol. If your getting downed in less than 20 seconds that's a you problem. Loop high wall structures and he can't do anything about it
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@araniella said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/294570/hex-totems-suggested-changes
Or yall can just find the boon totem since it makes a loud noise and deal with something mildly fair for once. Killers are given so many advantages and are given so much power to completely counter survivors that if we have to look around for the totem and wait all that time to bless it on top of that, you can spend some time looking for it and destroying it since you can literally hear it from a mile away.
1. Boons weren't mentioned a single time
2. Boons are op. Killers can't "do bones"
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The first 2 Killers you mentioned, Ghostface and Myers, are some of the worst Killers in the game but are really good against new players due to their inexperience. Oni is a snowballing machine, being able to kill a team of Survivors quickly, especially against inexperienced ones that don't know his weaknesses
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His Passive is his power, the active chains are useless. His addons already got nerfed, anymore nerfing would kill him if he isn't already dead
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I agree, this would be a very nice addition to an otherwise clunky Killer
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Pre nerf it was Wraith, but now it would be Blight or Trickster
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Camping is a necessity as Killer at high MMR, git gud
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The game in general is getting stale and boring
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I'd keep her as is. There's no point in nerfing her, she's one of the only 2 Killers that can compete with a good SWF
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They won't be getting a buff anytime soon. I think it's obvious enough noone wants to buff them because then they would be a good Killer again and we can't have that
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Daddy and Demo are better
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@Sluzzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2631824#Comment_2631824
There was no counterplay to Deathslinger. Boon totems are very easily snuffed because they are so loud. Cenobite was too oppressive and was winning too much.
Cenobite too oppressive? Are you living in an alternative universe where Pinhead had an actual power?
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@Edilibs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2632964#Comment_2632964
I can get 4k with any killer i play period. Im not going through all that just to prove something to you. Im godlike at DBD on both sides, i just main killer. You dont know anything about the builds i play my strategies, the add-ons i use etc and your just assuming that im playing at low MMR. What you dont know is that im exceptionally great with killer and my overall ability! lol
Aagree to disagree my friend, agree to disagree! It is ok )
OK that was the cockiest response I've ever gotten. Great work, you've made a fool of yourself. If you think you're so good, play against Oracle or Seal Team 6 lmao
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@Edilibs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2632897#Comment_2632897
Pig and Trapper ARE low tier and placed at low tier but they arent lower than that at high MMR. I said this already but no killer is F or even D tier bad! I play these killers at high MMR and the most that will happen is that i get Brutal Killer at worst. All the C+ killers can get 1k and 4-5 hooks on average. The killers above them can get 2k and 5-7 hooks on average
If you're getting more than a few hooks as Trapper and Pig, you're not at high MMR. If you want to prove it, ig send a video but otherwise I'm not going to belive it
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This is probably just a you problem. I don't really have a problem when I'm facing people on PC
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What
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Can we buff camping and tunneling as well?
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@Edilibs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2632793#Comment_2632793
No dont put words in my mouth, make assumptions then manipulate words to enforce your narrative thats not cool to do! I base my tier list on high level play whether you want to call it high MMR or whatever. I only base things at the highest level. I can easily say and do the same thing your doing but i wont. We either will ask questions to determine how we've concluded things or it just ends here.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2632802#Comment_2632802
Freddy can teleport to a gen and Pop it. He's not lower than A
I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm just saying your tierlist isn't that good when talking about high level play, especially with there not being a Killer lower than C+. Noone will say that Trapper or Pig are decent. Everyone will say that they are low tier and can't win at high MMR
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@Edilibs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2627736#Comment_2627736
Killers are all appropriately placed, everyone outside those killers you mentioned definetly are not C tier. You are probrably basing it off swf but im basing it off balance (swf and non swf) with a number of factors included.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2627782#Comment_2627782
Lets just agree to disagree. I say Pig is better than Legion while you say she isnt. Again its debatable but i dont feel like bringing up counter arguments for two weak killers. They are both killers that are not that good. One got nerfed (Pig) while the other remained the same.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2628037#Comment_2628037
Shes not in a class of her own because of her high learning curve. Nurse would only be SS if she was easy to play thus raising her player count of people that play her but shes not. Nurse has been SS tier in the past but not now, remember she got nerfed. Still the best but not in a class of her own because Blight is easier and can get the same snowball effect/results Nurse gets. I dont know why some people say theres F or D tier in this game because its not. Not every survivor you come across is swf, thats the only way killers are F tier. If at least 80% of the survivors were swf then there would be F tier but the game is revolved around survivor (swf w coms, swf without coms & non swf)
There simply is no killers that are THAT bad, not even Clown, Pig, Legion or Ghostface.
Let's agree to disagree since we are basing our tier lists based on different things. I base it around high tier play while you base it around low to mid MMR
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After his nerf, he's back to being a weak Killer
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He's not bottom 5, his Power is usable and not counterintuitive, but he's also not good. Probably around low C or high D
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Shack is fine, I'd only change it to where it isn't around any strong loops so it doesn't create a God zone where you can't chase as Killer
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All of his masks are obtainable, I'm pretty sure
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Since when is Doc a Killer that can only be beaten by top teams???
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@Hunter_Main_322 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2624725#Comment_2624725
Look at other games like Dota 2
Is there only one hero?
Or a choice of only 5 10 20 30?
You're pulling games out of completely different genres. Stop and accept the fact that you are wrong, and that adding passives for Survivors will kill diversity even more
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5v1 would be even worse for Killer than a 4v1 and 3v1 would be a pain for the Survivors, not great ideas
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Yeah, let's nerf a D tier Killer. Very cool
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2628156#Comment_2628156
I agree with this. Once combo i am worried about is Overcome and Dead Hard. Use overcome, the killer will probably give up. Repair a gen whilst injured. When the killer comes you have dead hard. Could be avoided with a longer cooldown.
That sounds annoying as hell to deal with
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The devs really love nerfing Killers with the Hillbilly technique. Make them unfun to play as
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@Beaburd said:
I definitely sympathize with this issue, but I don't know what to do.
I'd try to console you, but I doubt it'd work.
Just ask the devs.
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I'm so sorry, I've been waiting a long time to make that joke somewhere.
Ngl that was a good one
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@Incarnate said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2628282#Comment_2628282
I think that would be a good fit.
The abilties could come into play through addons:
- Sense - Unlocks his aura reading ability during the activation of Shift, and lingers for 1/2/3 Seconds after Shift ends.
- Stalk - Reduces his terror radius to 0 during the activation of Shift, and lingers for 3/5/7 seconds after Shift ends.
Power: Jason's Revenge (aKA Shift):
When Shift is activated though using power button, Jason de-materializes (becomes invisible) and moves at great speed for the duration, however moving into pallets and walls stops Shift immediately and awards a rage token, doesn't stop addon-effects from working. If Jason isn't moving when Shift ends, it counts as not having moved for the duration.
Whenever taking a stun, Jason's Revenge receives a rage token, up to a maximum of 5, each token represents 5 seconds.
Activating Rage can be done by pressing the ability button, which enrages Jason, while enraged Jason receives a temporary bloodlust 1 speed bonus, and can destroy pallets and walls by walking into them without getting stunned. When the effect ends the ability goes on cooldown for 45 seconds, but can still receive rage tokes.
.... I will add more to this. But it gives you an idea of what I'm think down the lines of.
This will basically be making him one you don't want to stun, because it only make him more dangerous. Not sure at what speed precisely Shift should be working at, but definitely a very high speed similar to what you'd see in the F13 game.
I can see how certain perks, like Insideous would be good on him, same with Endurance.
I quite like the idea, I will try to add Shift as a main Ability instead of Morph, I'll see if I like the Token idea for Rage though as I also enjoy my idea of becoming a beast at chasing the whenever you feel like it. Great ideas though
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@Incarnate said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2628073#Comment_2628073
Also seemingly with the powers from the F13 game, like for instance Morph - which basically is a very similar power to hags trap/teleport power. I think those powers might actually be better as addons, rather than powers.
So what power would you like for the basic Jason to have? Something similar to Shift?
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@Incarnate said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/293841/killer-concept-the-slasher-f13-chapter
Sounds like you're being heavily inspired by the F13 game, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but there could be IP problems with it.
You have some interesting ideas with the addons, but some seem a bit too powerful and it's also should be considered how it affects the other sides playability.
Yes, I am using the F13 game as a refrenence for the addons because the way they added the Jason was cool and I thought it could work in dbd aswell. I do agree some of the addons are a bit overboard
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@Edilibs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2625551#Comment_2625551
All your killers except top tiers are way too low. Nurse isnt in a class of her own although she is #1. 2 or 3 poatches ago i would have said different. None of those killers are D or F because they would get wrecked every single game if they are that bad but clearly they are not. Your basically saying these killers cant get more than 2-3 hooks on average and 0-1 kills on average again this is not the case even with swf
Nurse is definitely in a class of her own. She ignores every game mechanic. Yes, some Killers are D and F tier, it's just a fact. Some Killers can't get more than a few hooks against a coordinated team. Tell me how Trapper is supposed to win against a team of coordinated Survivors. He can't. He can maybe get a kill with camping and tunneling but that is it.
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@RodDeWitt said:
Besides her long-ass neck, she is a beauty, she can mori me anytime!
Even the neck is a beauty
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They probably will never do that sadly
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Git gud.
But more on a serious note, yeah Twins got gutted aswell as Oni to a lesser degree. Since Boons are just better version of already existing Perks, I can't wait for Boon: DS or Boon: DH. It'll be some much fun
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I would guess so. It would make sense, especially since the Killer is called The Artist
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Don't think it's problematic as it's a Perk that grants you Aura reading on Pallets and Windows. WoO is cool just not my favorite (No Mither+MoM is just way too fun)
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This is my most recent tierlist, it's not that accurate since Boon: Unbreakable isn't fully in the game yet but I'm going to presume it'll be released to live as it currently is