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@KillScreen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279524#Comment_3279524
Getting ppl do dc won't give you points either. Same goes for survivors. If they don't get heals or unhooks they won't get many bloodpoints or peeps. Look at booster loobys, even trying to find every totem and using prove thyself its hard not to derank.
Same goes for survivors. Only 3 gens and no hooks? Open a few chests, do totems. Get some boldness points in looping the killer and feed him a few pallets. Gen rush its as boring as proxy camp.
all of that doesnt matter in the DC meta we are in rn. the newest, hottest playstyle. Noone gets points. Finally both sides can equally see where they gonna be because obviously devs dont want to work for real improvements and just go for the less time intensive thing they could go, even if that means ruining all players experiences.
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@Rudjohns said:
I don't know why my comment was deleted here. What did I say wrong?
well it was off topic.
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@I_CAME said:
People refuse to acknowledge this even happens. People pretend like every DC is just someone who is salty because they got downed early. The majority of DCs I see in my games are people who are being face camped or hard tunneled off the hook. Then this leads to the chain reaction where the rest of the team just gives up since the game is a lost cause. I feel like it comes down to people feeling like they're in a no win scenario. Same reason people immediately give up against nurses and alch ring blights with four slowdowns.
@Rogue11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279554#Comment_3279554
I've kept track of teammate DCs over my last 24 miserable solo queue matches. There were only 2 DCs and surprise, they were against an alch ring/crow blight and a 4 slowdown perk + strong add ons + autohaven offering nurse.
"oh killers dont play fair so its no surprise people DC"
yeah obviously. Still it was better when the old penalties were there, if we come to a point where killers even have to play by your rulebooks in order to have a normal match i really think this game is the wrong place for me, im not here for your entertainment. And if devs promote this by reducing DC penalties then im certain this game will die in the long run.
But what yall with this argument are missing is that devs probably have done it because of the instable servers and Playstation cursor issiue that is occuring rn.
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Maybe some more transparency would be nice.
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@MrsGhostface said:
I’m sorry but this cursor glitch in PlayStation makes me glad the penalties are off. Please keep them off until bugs like this are fixed
I fully understand that. But i want the devs to finally acknowledge the issiue and find a REAL solution instead of just letting us with 1 minute penalties/off penalties for litteraly over 2 weeks by now.
By a real solution i mean finally fixing this issiue. Like... How big do you wanna screw up? BHVR right now: "YES!"
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@KillScreen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3274839#Comment_3274839
Camping isn't illegal, tunneling either, devs can't fix so they just embrace the fact that its "ok". How many attempts did we got to have a matchaking system?!? 3? 4? lol
When you're against 4 guys with 5k hours on comps its ok. On a tournament its something to be expected. The killer needs to remove one as soon as possible.
Against baby survivors its not ok. Do you understand that? Good. You have done a better job then the devs then.
Doing a better job than the devs aint really hard.
however there we go, "dont do it then, you can do it then and then but in that situation its unfair." which varies so much to whoever you ask, i make it easy for myself and just decide to dont follow a rulebook that is designed for me loosing and handing the opponents free wins.
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@CrowVortex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279315#Comment_3279315
It's easily replicated on custom matches against bots if you want to see for yourself. But yeah, unplayable.
Unplayable summs it up pretty well. I really would love to have my money back rn. But that aint possible so ima going to stay mad until they fix it or despite having put money in it im able to cut myself loose from DBD.
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@Coriander said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279298#Comment_3279298
Punishing people for the actions of others isn't going to solve the issues both sides have with each other. I always let people get challenges, and as many have said they'll die right after. You're not killers and survivors in a sick experiment, you're human beings playing with other people who enjoy earning goodies through gameplay. Besides, there are plenty of challenges to complete the Rifts, if that's what you wanted.
I start to feel like the main issiue is BHVR themselves anyway
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@drsoontm said:
I haven't noticed an increased number of rage-quits, not even of hook-suicides.
I would love if the it was punished more harshly right after the player has been downed or a hooked.
That being said, the game seems a tad more unstable since the last release. I've got it closing all by itself when starting and yesterday I've closed the game while in a lobby and I got a crash report window popping up.
i mean i have noticed this uptick and it seems im not the only one. I just wish they would give us back the normal dc penalties, it was fine as they were.
i get the game is unstable in some cases rn but that just means they need to work on it ASAP. as of right now they just avoid any confrontation, merge threads together (meaning they indeed read those) and idk what they are doing. This is the problem, a simple "we are working on it" would alredy be something. But they cant even give us that, guess i wasted money with this game because its unplayable rn.
Cant even refund.
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@Rootlo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279449#Comment_3279449
I do it all the time. I get pips all the time. Just cause 1 person DC's dosent mean I can no longer work gens or unhook others who dont dc. You just give up and stop playing when someone dc's from your game
yeah whatever you say, keep tell yourself that. I dont waste my time on you anymore.
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@Rootlo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279441#Comment_3279441
Yeah, as the other 3 can still rank up and get points since they are able to play all 4 aspects of the game.
Thats the point they cant, they will loose pips because you decided to throw the game cause there was a slight inconvienience that match.
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@jesterkind said:
The part that I don't understand is when a team tries these absurdly reckless moves, fails, and then gets mad at me in the post-game chat. Really feels like they're only having fun with the game when they're winning...
Don't get me wrong, I love going against hyper-altruistic "bully" squads who try bodyblocking and flashlight saves more than they try doing generators, I find those the most fun matches DBD has to offer. It just seems like those squads get super touchy and mad about losing even though they're clearly throwing the match for a laugh.
i actually hate them. But i love destroying them and leave them on the ground slugged for a bit.
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@Rootlo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279416#Comment_3279416
I do swap games when it gets bad. Learn to read what i wrote and youll see i play them out. I only Dc if the killer obviously is cheating
But appearantly when other people DC its okay when the killer doesnt follow the survivor rulebook is what your saying, again. If the game is that bad dont ruin it for others and dont tell people its ok to do so.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/356329/rage-quit-dcing-it-needs-to-stop
Wouldn't it be fun if the penalties went back and punished people who repeatedly abused they were off.
i would find it great!
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@Rootlo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279030#Comment_3279030
Do you really want to waste time in a game where you know the killer is only going to target you after being unhooked? You wont get any points or anything because all you are doing is just running the whole game. Minimal objective points (cause your team is probably not doing gens while being chased) no Altruisim, becuase you are the only target. No survival, because you will die. Its a big waste of time, i dont blame people who DC if they get hard tunneled. Ive had to play a lot of 3v1's and i understand why they do it.
maybe switch to a diffrent game then when its that bad. At least you can go onto the next game after you died on hook but oh well, now that the penaltys are low we can abuse it dont we?
really i wish players like you would just quit alredy
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Because on Playstation (maybe xbox too im not sure) there is a bug currently when loading in the cursor doesnt get replaced by the controller, so they cant move and have no other choice but to dc.
also servers disconnect alot lately, but also, what ive seen most -> people abuse the DC penalty reduction. So all 3 issiues mixed together just means DC,DC,DC. Cant even play a few games without someone or multiple people dcing.
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Well... that explains why my crying because of the dc here in the forums didnt got some official answer yet XD (despite me doing it for a whole week now) i dont matter. Sad the money ive lost with this game matters to me 😬
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Oh and thanks for merging my thread from the feedback to this one, so you actually read it and yet keep silent.
@BHVR how long do we have to deal with reduced penaltys? just give us SOMETHING!
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@[Deleted User] said:
Some killers will let you get your glyphs and others won't. It's just how it is. I always let survivors get their glyphs, but I know they're not obligated to do the same for me when the roles are reversed, and I'm cool with it.
thanks for not taking it personal ❤️
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Pretty good job so far, if i think about it, im starting to see what a good Company BHVR is. I was a fool thinking they were anything else than the other big names, but at least the penaltys are reduced so we can experience even more fun
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@Rydog said:
If you're the killer, why not? Just wait! The survivor is saying "I am giving up to get this glyph," so why not let them? You aren't actually a killer in real life, just have a little bit of courtesy to the player who is handing you a free down, this is obviously important enough to them that they would do so. The game should just make you invulnerable when doing glyphs.
(I 100% do this every time, and I will always hold everyone to my standard on this sort of thing.)
you are 1 out of 100
@shalo said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/80UFOBXTWEOO/noglyphforyou.gif
Way back in Tome 1 there is a challenge, Six Feet Under (sacrifice 4 Survivors in the basement within in a single trial), this was before the DC penalty and every time Survivors realised you were doing that challenge they would DC as you carried them to the Basement, every single time. So, no, I won't help you get your challenge.
And we are going that road again with the penaltys so it seems. People dc left and right. I need a new game i think.
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@Phasmamain said:
Solo queue can be fun when you don’t worry about winning or losing. Try out some fun builds and focus on doing archive challenges
That’s what has kept me sane for 2000 hours of solo queue
thats exactly what im doing for soloQ. But i need to transfer this mindset over to killer side because i tend to get sweaty for sacrifices there. And it can not always go well XD
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@SiaOiz said:
I was Killer in a match earlier and had 2 survivors DC. Both had been downed and were being transported to hook for second stage of sacrifice.
I just find it (in this type of instance) selfish and childish. Its leaving the remaining survivors with an uphill struggle to hope to complete the gens and/or find the hatch.
exactly but BHVR seems not too concerned about it. they read all of this too and just ignore it.
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I want to know if you work on it, because rn i just feel like i would want my money back if i could. Players abuse the reduced DC penalty like nothing else.
This is what you understand by customer service? im very disappointed, unseemingly disappointed. Fix the playstation issiue ASAP, make sure your servers dont disconnect about this often and give us back the old penaltys, so players dont abuse them like that.
The game is litteraly unplayable rn, i need to start to look out for something else. Its in this state OVER A WEEK, i havent seen something like that after back in 2012, where online servers would have crashes if too many players were on.
Idk what you managed to break with the new update, but reducing the penaltys has proofen a mistake in the past and i cant believe you did it again.
At least let me know if you are working on this or not. So i can watch out for something else if you dont plan to get the old penaltys back.
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@fake said:
Penance. I have now dc'd due to an inoperable bug with the cursor display on the console.
I am so sorry to the other 4 players. I do not want my DC for the bug during this period to be recorded and to be perceived as the selfish and self-serving player I am... But I did not want to wait AFK over and over again. I felt selfish. I hope you will forgive me. What a thing I have done.
you can stick your attitude somewhere else, i feel i have to explain it over and over and over again with you guys and still you dont understand..
im not talking about someone being unable to move from the start and then dcing.. Im talking about RAGEQUITS!!! can we finally understand this please????
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@ElodieSimp said:
At least if a survivor DC's you can still get a lot of BP. When Killers DC, it's over and a waste of time.
i can go to the next game and hope to have a FULL lobby in the next game, while when survs DC all the time it becomes so annoying even as killer, more so as soloQ survivor. Dont make a killer v. survivor thing out of this. DCing sux. period.
@th3syst3m said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3279030#Comment_3279030
Well there is a reason for that attitude. Playing solo I can tell you what is expected, you go down first and you'll be tunneled out, you go down last and you'll be facecamped, you run the killer for 3-4 gens you'll be facecamped and quite often left to die while your team escapes. I'm not excusing the behavior, but playing solo is just an awful experience most of the time.
I plas solo quite often, hardly get tunneled out let alone facecamped, despite probably being a weak link. But even then, i dont DC. What if i would DC any time i have a bad game as killer? DCing and not sticking to it ruins the whole game for anyone, also if my team can escape then good for them, no need to be so pity and feel entitled to an escape. Also you can just move on after you died, next round maybe is gonna play out better.
@GlitchyGamer said:
If they fixed the balance issues, maybe people wouldn't dc so much. The game is miserable to play right now. But people keep playing hoping to feel just a sliver of the joy they felt playing the game a year ago.
@Stealthdoorknob said:
People are quitting so much because the game sucks, it was better years ago. If the game was more fun, people would stay in the match and actually try. The reason they quit so much for you, is probably because you are a trash killer or survivor. There is no incentive for a player to stay in a game that doesn’t reward players for a win or punish them for a loss. They are only playing for fun, if you were perceived to be trash player/players, then there is little chance for fun in this game. The people who complained about ranks and got them removed, the babies who cried about the old matchmaking, congratulations this game is what you asked for. RIP
Oh look, there we have it! I for one enjoy the game on both sides.. Or i was until they reduced the penaltys. How about all you players that find the 6.0.1 THAT bad. How about yall just search some other game then instead of ruining it for all of us others??
@Stealthdoorknob way to judge what kind of killer/survivor i am "if they dc on you, your probably trash" i sent a report, enjoy it.
@Stroggz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/356329/rage-quit-dcing-it-needs-to-stop
aint it more harsh atm? like its 45 sec, 5 min, 45 - seven hours.
no before i think first penalty was 5 minutes no? it was more for sure.
@bm33 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278742#Comment_3278742
It's not just killer, it's survivor too.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278759#Comment_3278759
My swf teammate and I have both had similar games where one of us gets DC'd and it probably looks like we ragequit but it's the game itself kicking us. It's happened to him a few times recently and each time end game screen says the killer DC'd too and he can see the killers load out even though the match is still going.
im saying it AGAIN. natural disconnects is NOT what im complaining about. They dont happen as much as you want to make it look. I have seen 1 or 2 the past few weeks that indeed were natural, the rest? all ragequits. Obvious ragequits.
And even if all of them were natural than BHVR has a server issiue, one way or the other game is unplayable like that.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278817#Comment_3278817
I’ll admit while playing today and when I downed someone early on or if they screwed something up like a stun I kept thinking while carrying them to a hook “Are they going to DC?” Got a few of them.
exactly, it just kinda destroys all the fun in the game, now you worry even if people gonna stick to it or not. It becomes super annoying while playing as killer happening that much. But as survivor its even way worse.
We had a trickster game a friend and me, with 2 solos. One of em dced after I got downed early, it wasnt even them. And my friend was also all like "oh great, weve lost. Lets just give him the kills" and we did. He let me have hatch and even showed me a halloween medkit to escape with.
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@CrowVortex said:
There's that bug i was talking about, replicated in a custom bot match, after pouncing on a healthy survivor which forces a switch back into Charlotte. It's not the cursor one, afaik but that's also present at times. Believe Hag has some bugs too.
i understand dcing because of unplayable bugs, but i have seen nothing else than ragequits still, it gets abused and BHVR needs to get to fix those things ASAP so they can give us back the old penaltys. Im just mad i wasted so much money into this game rn, if i could refund, i would.
yeah but i also want bloodpoints, i need to level up stuff. And bots are rn always the same, no variety. Also i cant play against killer bots rn. But if this is gonna be like that all the time i wont be a dbd player until next year.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278782#Comment_3278782
If you get full BP and the bots are competent who cares.
well amen to that.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278808#Comment_3278808
On that we agree
Yeah im sorry if im a bit harsh rn but im sitting here with my calculator on how much money i have lost into this game, its litteraly unplayable since over a week. Cause if i never know if next round people gonna DC what is the point in trying at all.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278787#Comment_3278787
They're on for everybody else.
I assume they aren't on because of, you know, Playstation players aren't able to play.
then bhvr should maybe get their stuff together and fix it
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@Seraphor said:
Annoyingly, I got DC'd the moment I was hooked for the first time in one match today. It must have looked like a ragequit to the other players, but I had an active Renewal ready so I was more than prepared for the hook.
that is a 1 out of 10 situation
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@th3syst3m said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278760#Comment_3278760
For Playstation players they are off, I guess they're still on for PC players?
oh great so its worse than i even thought....
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278728#Comment_3278728
No, they aren't off.
OP is just unhappy about the length of the penalties.
i never said otherwise though. And i cant believe you actually would think DC penalties off could be a great idea, you must be trolling at that point. But its not funny at all in fact its extremely annoying. What is the point if people gonna dc about every little inconvienience, killers would only play against bots at one point. Well at least they aint flaming for stupid things i guess.
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@ArthurVeloso said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278705#Comment_3278705
Okay! 👍
*Proceeds to get hit by a double range add-ons*
skill issiue
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@JPLongstreet said:
With the current instability of the game, it's hard to fault players wanting to yeet on out of wonky matches.
Our PlayStation cousins are loading into matches as killer just to have their cursor fail. What exactly should they do then? Can't even farm properly, let alone kill.
@CrowVortex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278718#Comment_3278718
Just pointing it out, that it's not only rage DCing. There's actual problems.
these are not the examples im talking about. Its the fact people abuse the 1 minute reduced to quit whenever they please for the most dumbest reasons. They dont quit when they load into a match and didnt move. I litteraly just provided examples, see above.
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@GenJockeyNance said:
The DC penalties are confirmed off? That would certainly explain the slew of DCs today as both killer and survivor.
not off, but first penalty lasts only 1 minute. it got reduced.
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@Emeal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278695#Comment_3278695
no, I think you are confusing game development with democracy. haha you only have an advisory role, like the rest of us.
wouldnt it be smart for them making a game fun to their customers?
im not a game developer but i would perfer MY customers to be pleased with the service i provide, my livelyhood depends on it after all. But i guess people working at BHVR its their secondary job and not main income.
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@fussy said:
Penalty should be 15 minutes and double every time. Over the past week, I've seen SO MANY pointless dc, even in games where the survivors' game was going very well, that I no longer even understand why this is happening at all, except as a huge inflated ego in the child's ass of these survivors.
If you don't want to play, you go to another game. Besides yourself, you are responsible for the result of the game of 4 other players, because this is a TEAM game. The game is about survival, but most of the survivors just want to sleep neat the monitor with the m1 button pressed so that no one interferes with them. It's disgusting to watch. Go play tetris, please, if you have enough ability, of course. I don't want to see you either in my games for killer, or in my team for survivors. You are the worst thing in this game right now after cheaters, nurse, coh and dh.
1000% agree. Honestly im really fighting with my mood to play this game at all, i played it today because my friends was on. I thought start of the week i would totally juke the 1,5 times bloodpoint event but i have leveld knight from p2 to p3 and gave jake and yui some more perks/items out their bloodwebs. That is like 1 and a half prestige, because i didnt play enough. Its really sad how that has to drain my fun when finally bots arrived which i wished for a long time.
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@HoodedWildKard said:
Oh did they remove penalties again? Noticed loads of DCs friday.
lowered them to 1 minute. Heaps of people will come in this post and talk about how on console there is some bug that lets them not move, however all i see is rage quitting after so many various reasons..
It might be actually the coffin nail for me for this game not gonna lie, maybe i just need a break but honestly i cant enjoy the game with so many dcing going on.
@CrowVortex said:
Don't think it's fair to say that right now, there's a lot of bug's and glitches around. I tried 4 Twins games and i got stuck in at least 3 of them after Victor pounced on a healthy survivor. Only thing you can do from that point is just DC because you cannot see at level height, move or attack.
oh bugs and glitches, thats a new one. I have people seen dc after:
- -They saw a killer they didnt like
- -got downed/hooked early on
- -havent been able to use wiggle builds
- -couldnt finish their gens when it was almost done
- -got baited out DH
- -got grabbed off gens/out of lockers/off pallets
- and so on. This i experience both as soloQ survivor and as a killer too. We had a 3man swf going on today which got screwed 3 times by dcing randoms IN A ROW. All because penaltys are shorter.
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try shift+W
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Oh yess!!! more rules for me to break XD pls!
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@Emeal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278235#Comment_3278235
So they can get a head start on Hotfix 1, while the game is checked for submission by Console Companies and make small adjustments.
bHVR does not do sweeping changes from PTB.
so no matter what we say, they gonna do what they think is good. And if they think its good a killers power litteraly weakening itself then thats the fact..
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we will see if BHVR listens to us and removes all that stuff we said to remove in the PTB feedback alredy but they didnt... Why did they not? no clue.
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it never left the meta.
The issiue of that perk is its very concept, granting just a third health state basicly, so the killer has to find a workaround to be careful with the hits in a game were every second counts anyway. So you loose time no matter what, still a loose loose situation which will never get solved.
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Im having fun with the bots.
And with all other killers except knight. Just too many built in counterplays for him.
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horrible idea imo.
4v1 alredy is hard for the killer, especcially at the start of the match. also that would be 32 perks versus 4.
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@JustAnotherNewbie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278288#Comment_3278288
If you are not good at a killer and the survivors are better than you, then you should not be 3-4k that game, on ANY killer. But that doesn't happen because mistakes are weighed differently on different stages of the game.
What does conservatively playing Trapper even mean?
guess im above average then, i still have my 0k rounds though.
And it means playing him how we all played killer originally, without knowing all the tactics and knowing how to traverse te map right. Running around, from edge to edge, trying to down and hook people. placing the traps on some vaults maybe but not particularly closing off a 3-gen or playing basement trapper.
Again, camped sacrifices and 'conservative' hooks, like not camping and just down -> hook -> repeat does both add to killrates.
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@JustAnotherNewbie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3278290#Comment_3278290
You said that, doesn't mean there aren't other killers claiming solo is fine.
ok? bet there are survivors claiming to be killer mains too