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@Impartiality said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2690020#Comment_2690020
Well in that case the killer is just terrible or lacking brain cells, how can you be baited to hit a snowman 😂

How can killers be baited into punching walls or whiffing M1s?

in So can we remove the snowmen early? Or like, fix them to not tank hits? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Rizzo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2690011#Comment_2690011
I'm sorry and I don't want to turn this thread into a "bash on random huntress player" but I really wouldn't use this specific example to prove your point, the player missed very open shots even before Steve reached any snowmen.
I understand you don't like the mechanic, and it's fair, it's basically impossible to please everyone, but at this point it seems like you are reaching to find issues with the snowmen.

I wasn't attempting to bash the huntress, sorry. That wasn't the direction I wanted to go. It's just a direct example of how the snowmen can be used in a clearly not intended way that also does put killers at a disadvantage.

in How is this fair for Killers? Look at this BS! Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Impartiality said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689986#Comment_2689986
This forum and killer mains call anything an issue. There’s hardly any advantage with them, a hit cooldown is 3 seconds which it wastes, but it takes about 2 seconds to hop in the snowman. That difference is not a game changer and barely affects any chases

So let's just ignore survivors using them as moving shields. Like, I'm going to try using them now as M1 bait instead of hopping in them to see how successful I am.

If I'm not in it, they respawn, right? 🤡

in So can we remove the snowmen early? Or like, fix them to not tank hits? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

Just an extra hit is why we aren't calm. Survivors are using them to play in very not chill ways.

in Snowmen are just an extra hit....calm down.... Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Rizzo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689979#Comment_2689979
It will respawn randomly on the map, of course, but it's worse than using a tree or any structure to avoid a hit.

I agree it's worse than using a structure, but it's still kind of cheese to randomly put these on the map that can be used as terrain, as well as get out of jail free cards. Let's imagine that the Steve in that video just used them like corners/trees instead of hopping into them. Can we really fault the Huntress at that point for missing all her shots? Or did Steve outplay her at that point by using the snowmen? Because if survivors play that way instead of hopping into them, it's just an RNG shield that the devs added and called an event. It's just shaped like a snowman and can be used as a free hit state.

And frankly isn't fun to deal with as killer.

in How is this fair for Killers? Look at this BS! Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

To be honest, this is pretty much tied with hit the survivors through the snowmen anyway. I'd even be ok with making them immune to damage while hopping into the snowmen, since that turns into being on the killer for being impatient.

But like, the current implementation actually really sucks.

in Why not just remove the hit cooldown for hitting snowmen? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Impartiality said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689975#Comment_2689975
Cos there’s no issue to fix, if you’re struggling so bad it’s probably your gameplay that’s the issue

People have been explaining what the issue is. Do you care to try to read aloud some of the arguments against them?

in So can we remove the snowmen early? Or like, fix them to not tank hits? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@throwaway79465468797 said:
I'm not going to lie, call me a scrooge if you want. I pop a few snowmen when the game starts so I dont have to worry about popping them later on. This gives less snowmen for the survivors and they have to go out of their way to find them.
Believe me there are ways to deal with the snowmen that dont cost a lot of time at all. You could even use your powers to pop more snowmen costumes faster if you wanted. Especially at the start of the game. Huntress can do it, Trickster, Doc, pretty much every killer has a way to deal with the snowmen early on.

They respawn in 15 seconds if you hit them while they're empty. You're just wasting your valuable seconds early on, instead of later.

in So can we remove the snowmen early? Or like, fix them to not tank hits? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Rizzo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689943#Comment_2689943
Yes, the hatchet will break the snowman, empty or not.

So it would protect Steve if he just used it as a hatchet block? That's actually worse than hopping into it, because now it'll respawn.

in How is this fair for Killers? Look at this BS! Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689946#Comment_2689946
I know they're not permanent, but it's still 2 weeks worth of these snowy demons

It's two weeks of super ######### survivor queue times because no one wants to play killer in this clown fiesta.

in "It's an event, have fun!" is not a good argument for snowmen Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Tiufal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2689932#Comment_2689932
Thats soo far off in compariosn with this. But I guess you cant see this.

Yeah this is actually much worse. Mettle of Man is just one hit and is still hella effective if you can get the stars to align.

in So can we remove the snowmen early? Or like, fix them to not tank hits? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Rizzo said:
This video has been posted already multiple times, it's 5 gens, the survivor basically used all the snowmen in the map (keep in mind they do not respawn if you get hit while inside them) and the real issue there is the Huntress missing most shots, Steve would've reached the loops no matter the snowmen.

Actual question btw. Does the hatchet still get eaten even if she throws it at an empty snowman? Or if Steve hides behind it instead of inside it, will he still get hit if she throws through it?

in How is this fair for Killers? Look at this BS! Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

I just had 4 games in a row with all flashlights and 16 meta perks. One was even on a killer I do not play, so my MMR should not have been all that high.

They're playing so chill and enjoying the event though

🙃

in "It's an event, have fun!" is not a good argument for snowmen Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

So does the huntress hatchets ignore the snowmen if no one's in them? Or do they still absorb the hatchet even if they're empty? Because if they still take the hit, then it doesn't matter if she was "missing shots." He's still clearly capable of playing around them.

in How is this fair for Killers? Look at this BS! Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Fantasy said:
Oh god, just go play something else scrooge.

Uh, why? I didn't ask for this event.

@Tiufal said:
Can we pls stop this obnoxious complaining about some stupid snowmen?

Can we please stop blindly defending them? It's not balanced, is not fun, is not fair, and is extremely irritating to deal with. Especially when combined with Shadowstep or dead hard.

in So can we remove the snowmen early? Or like, fix them to not tank hits? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

Wraith with zoom zoom addons, if you're good at body blocking.

in Which Killers counter "Hold W" gameplay well? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

You don't loop The Artist. Her kit shuts down looping, but struggles with Hold W.

in How do you loop The Artist? Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Myla said:
Fun for the survivor that's it. Killers didn't get anything event related for this one beside cosmetics. Did you even get any winter related oferring/add on a Killer? You don't. As always you're the toys for the Survivor. Oh you don't like that? Oh my God just chill for two weeks being the toy and deal with it 5head.

I know right? It's like everyone's answer to this is "Don't play the game" like somehow that's acceptable.

in So about these snowmen Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Hex_Llama said:
I think the problem with a lot of events is that the survivor players get something fun to do and the killer players either get a chore or nothing. Running around in a snowman sounds super fun. Chasing someone in a snowman sounds like there's an extra step you have to do and it's annoying.

Basically this.

in So about these snowmen Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@Purple_Orc said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2688596#Comment_2688596
Then how explain how this is fair.
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/rclrpu/snowmen_make_good_body_blockers/

Well duh, it's just good fun.

*wiggles head*

in So about these snowmen Comment by SonicOffline December 10, 2021

@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/299260/so-about-these-snowmen
You literally can't do anything when in the snowman. If you think it's another objective you've lost it.

https://youtu.be/92RJ5pR7d1M

Here you go.

in So about these snowmen Comment by SonicOffline December 9, 2021

@scenekiller said:
Heaven forbid we all have a chill event and a fun time instead of being ultra sweatlords 24/7
I can’t stand this community sometimes lol

Heaven forbid the already dwindling killer population have to deal with another problem.

Yes, it's an event. No, it's not something both sides can "enjoy." If they had made it obvious somehow which snowmen had a survivor inside it wouldn't be so bad.

in So the issue with the Snowman Comment by SonicOffline December 9, 2021

@Sonzaishinai said:
It's official
People playing this game hate fun.
Next time a survivor jumps in a snowman, dance with them. Maybe the whole gang will join and you can have a conga line.
It's 2 weeks where you don't have to take the game seriously. Enjoy it

Or maybe we define fun differently.

I don't find it fun to have another objective that doubles as a get out of jail free card for the survivors.

in So about these snowmen Comment by SonicOffline December 9, 2021

As someone who slugs and camps because I play for myself (and myself only):

I have no issues with it. I just let people come in for the res anyway, and down them again, like normal. I generally get a free hit before they can do anything with the free getup, because I just hit them and down them again. It's just a safety net that does nothing, since I'm under it cutting holes in it.

in Do people actually have a problem with Exponential? Comment by SonicOffline December 8, 2021

@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2672960#Comment_2672960
Why would you hold W against a ranged character.....bruh she will just shoot you through a wall....

Why would you not look behind you to avoid the slow projectile the size of a semi truck that you can see through terrain?

in The artist is an S tier killer Comment by SonicOffline December 2, 2021

You should secure hooks faster instead.

in Adrenaline should not work if you are already exhausted Comment by SonicOffline December 2, 2021

I don't see how people can play with high DPI. I hover around 300 DPI and in-game sensitivity of 50%

in Blight Mains and DPI :) Comment by SonicOffline November 26, 2021

Are you seriously upset that people want to play video games with their friends?

in Nothing is going to be done Comment by SonicOffline November 25, 2021

The trick to nurse is

Sometimes press S.

Sometimes press A or D.

Sometimes take your hand off the keyboard.

in The Nurse has little counterplay to none. Comment by SonicOffline November 22, 2021

@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2642001#Comment_2642001
Because what's the point in the killer continuing to play when he knows the survivors can just hook bomb and body block everyone out?

So because the survivors are experienced enough to know how to handle a situation you've created, their perks are supposed to be disabled...?

How is that fair?

in DS should be disabled the MOMENT all 5 gens are done, period Comment by SonicOffline November 22, 2021

@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2642410#Comment_2642410
I don't think the five second stun is overkill or anything. But a five second stun is pretty significant. But that's not where my problem lies with DS. My problem lies with the fact that you can get punished both for playing around it and for playing into it.

May I offer a suggestion and just force disable it?