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  • @Acromio said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @Acromio said:
    Either give her normal movement speed or remove the lullaby. Her ranged attack doesn't justify both of these hindrances. The Clown has a very powerful raged tool, but he's not hindered in any way.

    The Clown''s vials don't directly damage people wit ha short cooldown. They are not comparable abilities.

    It doesn't matter. The Clown doesn't get screwed by [auto-bad word]tty collisions and even [auto-bad word] map design. The Huntress does.

    ..it does matter when we're discussing projectiles specifically.

  • @Acromio said:
    Either give her normal movement speed or remove the lullaby. Her ranged attack doesn't justify both of these hindrances. The Clown has a very powerful raged tool, but he's not hindered in any way.

    The Clown''s vials don't directly damage people wit ha short cooldown. They are not comparable abilities.

  • @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    ScottJund said:

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:

    ConsoleNurse said:

    No git gud.Watch zubatlel or scottjund 
    

    I’m aware... im already good with her and have fun playing her. But against solid swf teams, she’s not good enough to keep up.

    If you are good enough at her (and you're not on like...Lery's or Haddonfield), yes, yes she is.

    You struggled against marths depip squad sooo

    Bruh it was literally the sweatiest team on the planet, I didn't use Iridescent Head, or Instathrow, or Ruin, and I was on Swamp of all maps...with Huntress. Also I still won.

    Obviously yeah it was hard as balls but there's pretty much 0 teams that try that hard. A normal SWF can be destroyed by a good Huntress.

  • @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    ConsoleNurse said:

    No git gud.Watch zubatlel or scottjund 

    I’m aware... im already good with her and have fun playing her. But against solid swf teams, she’s not good enough to keep up.

    If you are good enough at her (and you're not on like...Lery's or Haddonfield), yes, yes she is.

  • Poweas said:

    My personal tier list
    Top tier
    1. Nurse
    2. Billy (yes I've finally accepted that he's better than Hag)
    3. Hag
    4. Spirit
    Mid tier
    5. Myers (1 more buff and he's top tier)
    6. Clown
    7. Wraith (He's solid right now ok? He's got a counter to looping and he's decent
    8. Pig
    9. Huntress (Don't bother making an argument with me on this, she's not top tier she's mid tier and she's overrated as hell she's lucky to be 8th I'm being very generous putting her here.
    Bottom tier
    10. Doctor
    11. LF
    12. Trapper
    Trash tier
    13. Freddy

    I respectfully disagree with Tyde when it comes to Hag and Leatherface.

    Imagine putting Pig and Wraith above Huntress.
  • @Dr_doom_j2 said:
    ScottJund said:

    @AgentTalon said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @AgentTalon said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @AgentTalon said:

    @AndreasLyUs said:

    @AgentTalon But they also gonna nerf DS soon (maybe in this patch?) and what can the survivors do? Nothing. Maybe it will be more balanced if they did so you only had 1 or 2 hatches with that addon. Addons to add more will not add more with that addon, i think what will be better because 4 hatches instadown is really OP like the old insta hatches build.

    To be fair, to have more than 2 hatchets you need to use multiple add-ons. I think using 2 limited use items is where the balance lies.

    Considering Huntress only has one Ultra Rare, I get an Iridescent Head on like every Bloodweb. It really isn't hard to sustain an infinite supply of them if you wanted to.

    Dang at 41 I have only gotten 2 of them so for me they are still a rare item. Again though, that's less an issue of the add-on and more the RNG and bloodweb setup. I still have yet to play against it, granted I don't have the 500+ hours everyone else seems to.

    If you haven't played against it why the hell are you commenting on it's balance?

    Because I have played against the Huntress and a hatchet throw is a hatchet throw. I've been hit by 2-3 in total. If hatchets were sniper rifle speed with no windup this would be a problem but in my experience, it seems pretty easy to dodge a hatchet.

    Just because the Huntress is bad doesn't mean the addon isn't brokenly strong. Technically a 5 blink Nurse is terrible if she can't hit her blinks.

    Scott, you act like you've NEVER missed a iri hatchet. Why the [BAD WORD] you always have to white night for nerfs against killers, even against balanced ones? You want to nerf Pig too, maybe having extra helmet add ons just allows for too much sloppy play?

    Do you actually believe if you took away iridescent heads that would be healthy and fine for all huntress players, just cuz you got 3 times as many hours playing period compared to most players? We get it, you're so good, everything is broken when YOU use it, and we all just need to play as well as you every single game you post to realize it.. [BAD WORD] it bro, lets nerf the red claxbone add on for wraith too. Its atupid broken to come out of invisibility whenever you want without warning, and I have like 30 of them bitches. Don't lose at rank 1, plz nerf

    Of course I've missed Iridescent hatchets before. That's why you get 3. I'm sorry man there's just no justifying that it feels awful to be downed by an Iridescent Head as a Survivor. You really have to come at it from both sides or you won't be reasonable.

  • You're supposed to break the chase and hide, according to people who don't actually know how to play the game.

  • @Raccoon said:
    Is this his fastest saw build?

    I'm honestly completely ignorant to Hillbilly Strats/Tips - As I've shown in previous threads, I mostly main the power roles of Camperface and Sharp Hand Joe. I usually run Ruin/BBQ/NOED on every killer, as they're pretty safe choices, at least for me.

    When people answer YOUR baiting remarks (Oh, let me guess, you "insert whatever putdown/looked down upon tactic you want here") with a facetious reply, that's totally a confirmation of them baiting you!

    Bazoonga.

    If you're truly oblivious to it then that's fine, but you need to know the build is like the polar opposite of nice.

  • Yikes, what a nice guy with NOED Ruin Instasaw Billy.

  • SenzuDuck said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    ScottJund said:

    I still don't get why killers complain about SWF. Like you realize if you see a 4 man group you now have no moral objections to using the most brokenly OP killer ######### you can bring, right? 

    SWF kinda doesnt mean a damn thing when you're an omegablink ebony mori Nurse or an Iridescent Head Huntress, instasaw Billy, Tombstone Piece Myers, etc. Killers have equally overpowered tools at their disposal.

    Assuming the killer even has access to that.

    Swf is way easier to get access to.

    4 Man SWF isn't that common, stop pretending it is.
    If you don't have these killer addons then you're not playing much anyway, thus implying you're probably not very good and the issue lies within your skill and not the "OP SURVIVORS".
    If you were investing time into these killers you'd have the addons you want to use when you need to use them.

    It would be nice if you stopped normalizing your gaming experience and expecting it to be the same across the board.

    3, and 4 man sets are that common.

    Again, you gloss over the massive gap. A 3 or 4 swf against someone who doesn't have the time to get the arsenal to fight them.

    And again, the refusal to admit that SWFs can pretty easily break the game with coordination and communication. Nope, it's all on the killer to overcome that.
    I would much rather the solution be "get better at killer" than "remove SWF and kill Dead by Daylight." Solo survivor is weak enough and any nerfs to SWF will probably indirectly affect them.
  • ScottJund said:
    I still don't get why killers complain about SWF. Like you realize if you see a 4 man group you now have no moral objections to using the most brokenly OP killer ######### you can bring, right? 

    SWF kinda doesnt mean a damn thing when you're an omegablink ebony mori Nurse or an Iridescent Head Huntress, instasaw Billy, Tombstone Piece Myers, etc. Killers have equally overpowered tools at their disposal.
    Assuming the killer even has access to that.

    Swf is way easier to get access to.
    Come on man if you dont have a single OP setup for just one game what the hell are you spending your BP on
  • I still don't get why killers complain about SWF. Like you realize if you see a 4 man group you now have no moral objections to using the most brokenly OP killer ######### you can bring, right? 

    SWF kinda doesnt mean a damn thing when you're an omegablink ebony mori Nurse or an Iridescent Head Huntress, instasaw Billy, Tombstone Piece Myers, etc. Killers have equally overpowered tools at their disposal.
  • @AgentTalon said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @AgentTalon said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @AgentTalon said:

    @AndreasLyUs said:
    @AgentTalon But they also gonna nerf DS soon (maybe in this patch?) and what can the survivors do? Nothing. Maybe it will be more balanced if they did so you only had 1 or 2 hatches with that addon. Addons to add more will not add more with that addon, i think what will be better because 4 hatches instadown is really OP like the old insta hatches build.

    To be fair, to have more than 2 hatchets you need to use multiple add-ons. I think using 2 limited use items is where the balance lies.

    Considering Huntress only has one Ultra Rare, I get an Iridescent Head on like every Bloodweb. It really isn't hard to sustain an infinite supply of them if you wanted to.

    Dang at 41 I have only gotten 2 of them so for me they are still a rare item. Again though, that's less an issue of the add-on and more the RNG and bloodweb setup. I still have yet to play against it, granted I don't have the 500+ hours everyone else seems to.

    If you haven't played against it why the hell are you commenting on it's balance?

    Because I have played against the Huntress and a hatchet throw is a hatchet throw. I've been hit by 2-3 in total. If hatchets were sniper rifle speed with no windup this would be a problem but in my experience, it seems pretty easy to dodge a hatchet.

    Just because the Huntress is bad doesn't mean the addon isn't brokenly strong. Technically a 5 blink Nurse is terrible if she can't hit her blinks.

  • @AgentTalon said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @AgentTalon said:

    @AndreasLyUs said:
    @AgentTalon But they also gonna nerf DS soon (maybe in this patch?) and what can the survivors do? Nothing. Maybe it will be more balanced if they did so you only had 1 or 2 hatches with that addon. Addons to add more will not add more with that addon, i think what will be better because 4 hatches instadown is really OP like the old insta hatches build.

    To be fair, to have more than 2 hatchets you need to use multiple add-ons. I think using 2 limited use items is where the balance lies.

    Considering Huntress only has one Ultra Rare, I get an Iridescent Head on like every Bloodweb. It really isn't hard to sustain an infinite supply of them if you wanted to.

    Dang at 41 I have only gotten 2 of them so for me they are still a rare item. Again though, that's less an issue of the add-on and more the RNG and bloodweb setup. I still have yet to play against it, granted I don't have the 500+ hours everyone else seems to.

    If you haven't played against it why the hell are you commenting on it's balance?

  • @AgentTalon said:

    @AndreasLyUs said:
    @AgentTalon But they also gonna nerf DS soon (maybe in this patch?) and what can the survivors do? Nothing. Maybe it will be more balanced if they did so you only had 1 or 2 hatches with that addon. Addons to add more will not add more with that addon, i think what will be better because 4 hatches instadown is really OP like the old insta hatches build.

    To be fair, to have more than 2 hatchets you need to use multiple add-ons. I think using 2 limited use items is where the balance lies.

    Considering Huntress only has one Ultra Rare, I get an Iridescent Head on like every Bloodweb. It really isn't hard to sustain an infinite supply of them if you wanted to.

  • @AndreasLyUs said:
    @AgentTalon How many hours do you have in the game lol? Insta down hatches is broken.

    How is it more broken to have 2-3 hatchets than a perma chainsaw? It's also a pink add-on, how often do you come across it? If it was a perk you would have a point but it isn't.

    you cant throw a chainsaw across the map and the chainsaw, even with instasaw, still takes more time to ready up.
  • Nah nah nah they nerfed killers every patch and now look at the position the game is in what the devs can do is buff the rest of the killer to the level of hillbilly nerf gen rushing because relying on a hex totem is fkn ridiculous huntress already has shxt add-ons as it is iridescent heads requires accuracy they killed her insta hatchets and tried to "fix her hatchet hitbox" and huntress mains slaughtered the devs and it was reverted immediately let her be add an opt out for swf and you say "killer is to ez"(my goodness the cringe) i have to disagree just because you go against some mediocre survivors doesn't mean "killer is ez" i can already tell you haven't ran into an optimal team in a good minute but when you do you'll see just how hard killer is 
    Bro you gotta use punctuation
  • @ScottJund said:
    alivebydeadight said:

    @AndreasLyUs said:

    
      
      

    * FIX BROKEN ADDONS: Instadown hatches at huntress and addons like that.

    Oh no instadown hatchets what will we ever do, oh I know, not throw the pallet infront of huntress with her hatchet ready, fake her out when she gets ready to throw a hatchet, or just crouch at random to avoid them, NOT BROKEN AT ALL JUST GET GOOD

    Would you like to do a quick KYF where you show me how to get good at going against Iridescent Head?

    Not going to make a video but it's all about moving in irregular patterns, getting behind cover, and most importantly listening to her. The Huntress makes a pretty noticeable noise when she winds up so you know to start juking.

    Okay so you start juking and she just holds her hatchet while getting closer. Then what
  • @AndreasLyUs said:

    1. FIX BROKEN ADDONS: Instadown hatches at huntress and addons like that.

    Oh no instadown hatchets what will we ever do, oh I know, not throw the pallet infront of huntress with her hatchet ready, fake her out when she gets ready to throw a hatchet, or just crouch at random to avoid them, NOT BROKEN AT ALL JUST GET GOOD

    Would you like to do a quick KYF where you show me how to get good at going against Iridescent Head?
  • @Malakir said:

    chance of paste

  • Yes its broken overpowered.
  • Maps are the same? You joking? Have you seen how dead Sheltered Woods is?
  • Can we just do a show of hands of people on this forum who have been provably DDoS'd via DBD?

    Gonna just take a wild stab in the dark and say that number is 0.
  • @Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
    They destroy the frame rate of killers, some more than others, and some maps are worse than others. Doctor has frame rate issues already. Throw on 360 using survivors and good freaking luck. 

    And then they wonder why you tunnel them out of the match lol.

    @Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
    They destroy the frame rate of killers, some more than others, and some maps are worse than others. Doctor has frame rate issues already. Throw on 360 using survivors and good freaking luck. 

    And then they wonder why you tunnel them out of the match lol.

    360 players are one of the few exceptions I think camping is warranted. You want to abuse gameplay mechanics? Ok so will I. Same thing with teabaggers.

    Imagine camping someone for turning
  • @amneoss said:
    ScottJund said:


    Weederick said:

    Billy doesnt work with 110% movespeed, since he cant deal with loops. If you ever got looped as hag or huntress, you know what i mean (5-6 loops thanks to hitboxes), but billy has no means of countering it.

    If that went live, he would drop down to mid-low tier to be THE MOST loopable killer in the game by far. That wouldnt be fun, since he would just be deleted from the viable killers.

    The devs could rather focus on making him even more unique. Keep the strong chainsaw, but give him appropriate drawbacks. I always thought about him beeing the loudest and most aggressive of the killers. A savage.

    Give him global, directional sounds. Everyone should hear exactly where billy is, when he is using his chainsaw. That would balance his map control (mobility) with survivors map control (knowing where he is) and also close the gap between swf and solo survivor. As SWF can communicate where killer are, which makes them op, but against bily, you know it anyways.

    On top of that, double his cooldown and nerf his addons.

    Just my 2c, i hope they wont just nerfhammer him mindlessly (like flickremoval).

    Bro you should not be getting looped 6 times around anything with a 110% killer

    Bro not everyone is as good as you bro.

    Look Scott I love your streams. Best Huntress by miles. And it's cool to see you getting Spirit up to your Huntress skill.

    But you have to realize that most of us aren't you, Marth, Tru3, or Monto.
    You are far better than 99% of the killer player base. Judging everyone by your skill isn't fair. I know you'll try to be modest about your skill but inside you know how good you are.

    Dude I'm not even remotely humblebragging. You just go around corners tightly. That's it. You can't be looped 6 times around anything. It doesn't take skill at all.

  • Weederick said:

    Billy doesnt work with 110% movespeed, since he cant deal with loops. If you ever got looped as hag or huntress, you know what i mean (5-6 loops thanks to hitboxes), but billy has no means of countering it.
    If that went live, he would drop down to mid-low tier to be THE MOST loopable killer in the game by far. That wouldnt be fun, since he would just be deleted from the viable killers.

    The devs could rather focus on making him even more unique. Keep the strong chainsaw, but give him appropriate drawbacks. I always thought about him beeing the loudest and most aggressive of the killers. A savage.
    Give him global, directional sounds. Everyone should hear exactly where billy is, when he is using his chainsaw. That would balance his map control (mobility) with survivors map control (knowing where he is) and also close the gap between swf and solo survivor. As SWF can communicate where killer are, which makes them op, but against bily, you know it anyways.
    On top of that, double his cooldown and nerf his addons.

    Just my 2c, i hope they wont just nerfhammer him mindlessly (like flickremoval).

    Bro you should not be getting looped 6 times around anything with a 110% killer
  • Whatever dude, I bet you're not even a professional game developer with over two-decades exp- OHH ######### nevermind man u rite u rite

  • @lyric said:
    ScottJund said:

    @lyric said:

    ScottJund said:

    so you think a rank 4 and a rank 5 are just totally different? like you actually believe this #########?
    
    i can't speak for survivors, but the only reason to ever derank killer from red to purple would be to get faster queues. the games dont change. now red to green or brown is a different story
    

    Of course not from 4 to 5 that’s a dumb assumption we both know I’m talking about rank one play compared to the others and there is a difference even though I’ll agree some people don’t belong there, there is still a skill gap 

    Alright answer this then, you seem civil. Do you believe the sole reason I'd derank from say, 1 to 7 is too face weaker survivors?

    It may not be your intention but it turns out being that way and it proves it in the post that got closed where you claimed to feel bad when you stomp the noobs being at rank 10 when you get them instead of competent killers and sure that still happens at 1 every once in a while but it happens a whole lot more below the 4-5 range they just aren’t as serious or don’t really care anyway so the skill will be different than someone who actually wants to win along with less hours in usually, on PS4 the ques are fine even though the frame rate isn’t I can instantly get matches at rank 1 unless it’s late in the evening time with swf, I just don’t agree with supporting a streamer who would derank on their stream and condone it to their viewers when it’s a manipulation that keeps you at a rank you don’t belong for “FUN” , if you can’t see how this could hurt more than help this game I just don’t know what else to say.

    Where did I ever condone it? I hate that I have to derank to find games in under 10 minutes, its extremely stupid. Granted I'm only dropping to like 7 or 8. I'm not even deranking there for "fun." I'm deranking to play the game AT ALL. My alternatives are wait 10 minutes (this is not an exaggeration on PC) between each game and bore the hell out of my stream, or play survivor and get instant queues. I don't like the situation I'm in either, dude.

  • @lyric said:
    ScottJund said:

    so you think a rank 4 and a rank 5 are just totally different? like you actually believe this #########?

    i can't speak for survivors, but the only reason to ever derank killer from red to purple would be to get faster queues. the games dont change. now red to green or brown is a different story

    Of course not from 4 to 5 that’s a dumb assumption we both know I’m talking about rank one play compared to the others and there is a difference even though I’ll agree some people don’t belong there, there is still a skill gap 

    Alright answer this then, you seem civil. Do you believe the sole reason I'd derank from say, 1 to 7 is too face weaker survivors?

  • so you think a rank 4 and a rank 5 are just totally different? like you actually believe this #########?

    i can't speak for survivors, but the only reason to ever derank killer from red to purple would be to get faster queues. the games dont change. now red to green or brown is a different story

  • @lyric said:
    ScottJund said:

    @Dehitay said:

    Even after being questioned on it, he didn't mention what toxic behavior he was referring to. Which makes it sound like he's probly upset about flashlight stuns, run by insta heals, and other valid (but often broken) strategies rather than glitch abuse, harassment in post game chat, and actual toxic behavior.

    tbh half this forum hates streamers for no real reason. People literally wish death upon streamers here, its disturbing.

    I actually like streamers who don’t derank believe it or not , I know that’s hard to believe 

    do you legitimately believe there's a vast difference in player skill between purple ranks and red ranks?

  • @Dehitay said:
    Even after being questioned on it, he didn't mention what toxic behavior he was referring to. Which makes it sound like he's probly upset about flashlight stuns, run by insta heals, and other valid (but often broken) strategies rather than glitch abuse, harassment in post game chat, and actual toxic behavior.

    tbh half this forum hates streamers for no real reason. People literally wish death upon streamers here, its disturbing.

  • Its not getting killer favored, its getting actually balanced.

  • muh 4 seconds

  • @Lowbei said:
    ScottJund said:

    @Lowbei said:

    ScottJund said:

    @Lowbei said:
    

    i never said that rank1 = skill,

    lol i only play at rank1 kiddo, solo, no swf. let me know when you git gud enough to do that. dont worry, its not hard, youll make it someday.
    
    
    
    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    

    i replied that to senzu. do you have reading issues also?

    ""Hey Senzu, let me know when you're skillful enough to hit rank 1."

    "I never said that rank 1 = skill."

    if you can't see what you said there I think you legitimately might have something wrong with your brain.

    this isnt rocket science. you have to have slightly more skill to hit rank1 than rolling your face on the keyboard. that doesnt mean that hitting rank1 = being skilled.

    also, you have to be slightly more skilled to drive a car than a 5yr old has, but that doesnt mean that you are a skilled driver just because you can drive.

    stay in school kids!

    god bless

  • @Lowbei said:
    ScottJund said:

    @Lowbei said:

    i never said that rank1 = skill,
    

    lol i only play at rank1 kiddo, solo, no swf. let me know when you git gud enough to do that. dont worry, its not hard, youll make it someday.

    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    i replied that to senzu. do you have reading issues also?

    ""Hey Senzu, let me know when you're skillful enough to hit rank 1."
    "I never said that rank 1 = skill."

    if you can't see what you said there I think you legitimately might have something wrong with your brain.

  • @Lowbei said:

    i never said that rank1 = skill,

    lol i only play at rank1 kiddo, solo, no swf. let me know when you git gud enough to do that. dont worry, its not hard, youll make it someday.

    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • @Lowbei said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:

    lol im a survivor main, rank1, and was doing a daily. even someone else pointed that out to you. youre just butthurt that everyone laughs at your opinion and discards it. also, you arent a rank1 killer son, you already admitted you only play swf. git gud.

    Don't worry, I do truly believe you'll be good one day, anyone on planet earth can google my name and see that I play killer so I don't really mind you lying about it to make me look bad, it just invalidates what you say because you find it so easy to lie to try and prove a point.

    Hey look, it's me playing really poorly as a killer, I figure if you're going to lie I might as well just disprove it by adding proof, don't worry - one day you'll make a valid point that doesn't consist of you lying through your teeth.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/320518169?t=05m58s

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/319718948?t=12m33s

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/319718948?t=26m02s

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/319718948?t=42m52s

    The game is easy, and maybe once you get a little more practice in you'll be able to play at a rank one level like myself and so many other people do.

    I believe in you Lowbei.

    lol i only play at rank1 kiddo, solo, no swf. let me know when you git gud enough to do that. dont worry, its not hard, youll make it someday.

    How after 2000 hours you can still be so dumb as to equate rank to skill, I just don't know how you messed up that much.

  • @Rottimic said:

    @ScottJund said:

    Also very noble of you to judge people without even slightly knowing them. Dann dude ironically you sound more toxic than the people you're complaining about.

    Considering this is the bulk of what makes up yours and Jen's stream, this is truly the pot calling the kettle black. Neither one of you are capable of going 10-15 minutes without insulting and passing judgement on random strangers for how they play

    I don't discriminate. If someone does a dumb thing, I'll say they did a dumb thing. If I do a dumb thing, I'll say I did a dumb thing. Half of it is an educational tool: "What this Claudette did was dumb, she should have done X, etc"

  • @Lowbei said:
    ScottJund said:

    @Lowbei said:

    i think its hilarious that jen cried in her stream that shes being laughed off the forums and her trashy fans came here to defend her with new forum accounts.

    shes not welcome here any more than ochido. nobody is buying your bullshit about rank1 players playing the same as low ranks, or that you derank to play against other killers while we have 15-25k players online at a time. the truth is that she doesnt like losing and her trashy followers are too immature to understand how balance works.
    

    git gud and you wont need to derank. better yet, play solo sometime to develop some real skill.

    Damn you are obviously very personally affected by her.

    never seen her before. im making a broad statement about sponsored streamers dcing. she is simply the most well known for it.

    you seem equally trashy tho if it makes you feel better about being left out. neither of you are welcome here.

    Okay I'm sorry Gatekeeper of the DBD forums.

    Also very noble of you to judge people without even slightly knowing them. Dann dude ironically you sound more toxic than the people you're complaining about.

  • @Lowbei said:
    i think its hilarious that jen cried in her stream that shes being laughed off the forums and her trashy fans came here to defend her with new forum accounts.

    shes not welcome here any more than ochido. nobody is buying your bullshit about rank1 players playing the same as low ranks, or that you derank to play against other killers while we have 15-25k players online at a time. the truth is that she doesnt like losing and her trashy followers are too immature to understand how balance works.

    git gud and you wont need to derank. better yet, play solo sometime to develop some real skill.

    Damn you are obviously very personally affected by her.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @inkedsoulz said:

    @ScottJund said:

    @inkedsoulz said:

    @rha said:

    @shasta said:
    Bullying noobs for either side should be a big no no I agree with the ban

    Wanting to play at lower ranks doesn't automatically mean bullying. The pipping system for survivor is so screwed up that it's easy to end up at a rank where it's absolutely impossible to enjoy the game.

    Was watching a small streamer, plays DbD only occasionally, she's nevertheless rank 1. She played at rank 1 for 5 1/4 hours and escaped only twice during that time, once vs a meme Leatherface insidious-guarding his basement chest. Multiple times the killers had 4ks even before hatch was unlocked. Towards the end the only reason she kept playing despite being deeply frustrated was because she was hoping for one good match to finish off which never came. Despite playing hopelessly unsuccessful at rank 1, she didn't drop in rank either and when she dropped to 2, she was back at 1 the next game despite having a bad game.

    I hate playing at higher ranks as well, mainly because the fellow survivors you get in solo queue are on the same skill level of those you get on rank 15 (red ranks didn't change anything), but the killers get better and better and fully perked out and totally tryhard I can't easily 1 vs 1 them anymore (which is necessary considering my teammates are mostly more of a burden than help). Moreover, almost every single game 3rd person got slugged to deny the 4th the hatch. Makes the last four minutes of the game terribly boring.

    I am managing my own rank by simply playing at most one survivor game per day, and many days I don't play at all. Last season I managed to never get higher than 11. I would rather like to play more and not be forced into simply playing only one game every couple of days.

    So you guys want to play against newbie killers, that chase you a little bit, but they are not able to catch you, just for your own enjoyment?

    Maybe you are not trying to intentionally bully, but wanting to play at a lower rank compared to your own skill level just in order to have easier matches is like bullying for those lower rank players.

    You guys really, really have to stop equating rank to skill level. Yes, it matters from like 15-20 because those are the genuine new player ranks, but once you get above that, while higher ranks will probably have a few more good players than not, it truly, truly does not make much of a difference. Everyone knows that equating your rank to skill in this game is something only new players do.

    You said it yourself "...while higher ranks will probably have a few more good players than not..."

    So you guys try to stay on lower ranks on purpose in order to avoid facing those extra "few" good players, just so you can have more amount of easy matches.

    I do understand when people try to stay on lower ranks in order to get faster queues.
    But staying on lower ranks just for the sake of having easier/funnier matches doesnt seem right to me(it might be fun for you, but probably not for the other side)

    Maybe you will change your mind after you have been buliled by a SWF trying to learn a new killer.

    What does SWF have to do with deranking?

  • @Condorloco_26 said:
    ScottJund said:

    I've heard a lot of people say that for console. Maybe console just has more survivors ranking up faster for whatever reason. I'm envious.

    Maybe you can join the console community. I think more skilled huntresses are needed at R1.

    o god i am not aiming with a controller at <30 fps.

  • @Condorloco_26 said:
    IMO there's absolutely no need to derank to get a game in PS4. For the last 4 or 5 rank resets, I've ranked up back to R1 as a killer in just a couple of days barely missing pips in the process, and I've never waited more than 2 or 3 minutes to to get a full lobby.

    I've heard a lot of people say that for console. Maybe console just has more survivors ranking up faster for whatever reason. I'm envious.

  • Every time I get a lobby full of streamers people always go "MORI THEM XD". I'm always like...why? Why would I treat them any differently? In fact, I'll usually go out of my way to let them live longer so they don't have to spend their stream slugged / immediately dead because that sucks for them.

  • @ChesterTheMolester said:
    @Kilmeran 
    Too bad, goodbye, cant force you to stay.

    @TheBean
    Our small previous beef aside, here is a thought; what if the top streamers actually damage your income? 
    I think its a bad idea by BHVR to allow them to derank to pull of their stomping on the unfortunate newbies AND support them officially in the progress.The fanboys want to keep the games status quo while the vets will not be happy about that, and try to denounce it.
     This of course can create a bad reputation that might precede the product and company. Its better to fix the game and shut down those streamers, they are replacable as TF2 and Overwatch has proven.

    Remember that PUBGs downfall can be partially credited to the horrible streamers they supported and catered too. Even banning anyone on their command. Their reputation got destroyed really fast.

    you gotta be on crack if you think free exposure demonstrating people having a lot of fun "damages their income".

    also, that ignores the streamers that don't derank and still play like complete #########, of which there are several big ones you could easily name.

  • @Kilmeran said:

    @ScottJund said: See you in a week.

    Fine, one more post just to put that to rest here and now.

    If you mean the Blight event, then I'm afraid not. I'm already turned off the game as a new player. There's absolutely no reason, and no investment from me into the game, to feel any need to play the event.

    I've returned to Overwatch, where I am enjoying Halloween Terror and a game that isn't so damned broken. I've been in Overwatch since launch, and will continue to be in Overwatch. I tried DBD, it didn't work out.

    imma be honest I just wanted to bait you into posting again. Good luck in whatever game you enjoy next my dude.

  • @Kilmeran said:
    You know what, I'm already bored as ######### with the whole thing.

    You have Vets deranking and stomping lower-rank (and sometimes fairly new) players and defending it.

    You have BHVR endorsing such people simply because they provide free marketing, which also endorses said behavior to all the viewers.

    You have a rank reset every goddamn month so that Vets are dumped with lower ranked and newer players, thereby further screwing up such matches.

    With over two years behind the game, you now have a completely new player unfriendly bloodpoint grind system that forces you to level character after character, even if you would never enjoy playing them (which still causes wasted bloodpoints at bare minimum) just to get teachables that you need in order to make Perk builds that are even the least bit viable on a character you might actually want to play. Because without those Perk combinations, you're at a disadvantage as you inevitably rank up. Add to it, most new players will likely rank up to at least the green ranks (where those Vets have deranked to) before they even begin to have the needed Perks.

    The Teachables, after all that asinine grind, are then completely RNG as to whether or not, or even when, they appear in another bloodweb.

    This is further added to every three months with new Killers/Survivors and new Perks being dumped into the game.

    SWF and outside voice comm. Not saying more about that.

    I tried, but this game is just not for new players. Unfortunately, with all of its issues against being a new player, some of which is fostered by some members of the community, I'm afraid that I'm going to have to shelve the game, move on, and recommend against it in the future.

    This is my final post on the forums.

    See you in a week.

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