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@28_stab_wounds when you've been here for longer, let's see your opinion :D
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@MegMain98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484632#Comment_484632
Spirit can...she’s just gotta be REALLY good and know how to track survivors movements perfectly. I have destroyed SWF groups with her, she’s the next best option after Nurse. Still not as good as Nurse but viable. A decent Spirit won’t be able to handle that, you’ve gotta be really good and have RNG on your side.
Hag is the same way except I’ll argue you’ve gotta be even better with Hag than you would with Spirit. If you have a good set up with traps then you should be golden.
Billy is great if you know how to maneuver the chainsaw but you can say “sayonara” to a 4K if the map is either Lery’s or a very loop heavy map. Billy is easy to loop unlike the previous three killers.
While I prefer Hag and Spirit over Nurse, I can argue with the fact that Nurse is the best and most viable option. She is the only killer that can never be looped.
@MegMain98 you perfectly summed it up. Awesome.
I use surveillance to combat SWF, no way will they get to endgame since late game, everything is in my control.
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@PeepingPeacock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484640#Comment_484640
If you want to claim that Spirit takes more game sense to be good with than Nurse you could argue that, but saying Spirit is harder to play on a mechanical level and there's more to master in her power is nonsense.
If you ask people to use Spirits power to get to a specific location in one go 100% of people could do that. If you asked people to blink to a specific spot in one go, not everyone could do that. There is WAY more skill involved in hitting blinks accurately and consistently then there is in moving places while phasing.
@PeepingPeacock oh wait, I meant chasing and pressure wise. It's harder for Spirit to do that.
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Spirit benefits most. I don't use Tryhard beads or any addons, but it still works. It's mostly useful in 4-3 gen situations but u can get a lot of use when a survivor tries to commit to a gen. It's good for tracking basically.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484656#Comment_484656
@Poweas The best Hag builds are brutal to play against. MYC is god tier on Hag. It's unreal.
@edgarpoop now I totally gotta do it. My current build is yet to be defeated though, it's OP at delaying the game.
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Depends, at the moment probably yes cuz the sound is bugged and tracking non injured survivors is extremely difficult. But once the sound is fixed, it should be no problem to track someone. Especially not an injured without iron will. Also, she's the only killer who can hit someone by just standing still :P
I personally had much more trouble mastering Nurse than I had issues to do so with spirit (pre sound bugs)
@HavelmomDaS1 I had a really good standing still mindgame. It was a game where I triggered EGC (It was close to them winning tho but I won somehow, my sister held a phone in my phase while I was playing and distracted me XD typical) but a Dwight was left, I was chasing him, he stunned me, and he was injured. He pointed at me but I stood still and he vaulted into me XDDD.
That was a lovely game. The Laurie was so nice after.
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@TragicSolitude said:
I take it you mean on the PC? Because I find Spirit much easier than Nurse, but I'm on the PS4.
@TragicSolitude yeah on PC. On console Nurse is far more difficult.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484592#Comment_484592
Dat Haunted Ground Hag with Rusty Shackles
@edgarpoop I've never tried that, but I definitely will now :P. I need to get MYC so I can do a Mint rag, Rusty shackles, MYC, Devour Hope, Thrill of the Hunt and Surveillance Hag grabbing build. I normally use Thanatophobia, A Nurses calling, Sloppy butcher and STBFL with no addons. But that Hag build would be so much fun... For me only tho.
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@Gay Myers (Luzi) you're not soulless, you're awesome!
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He is pretty decent when you're good.
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@GrootDude said:
@Poweas I’ll try it when I get a chance, I can hear healing and footsteps easily with them.
@TreemanXD then you'll be fine. Good luck for when you try.
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@PeepingPeacock said:
In terms of what?
Because Spirit sure as hell isn't as mechanically difficult to play as Nurse.
@PeepingPeacock in terms of mastering every little kink and getting to a good level.
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@GrootDude said:
@Poweas I only have earbuds.
@TreemanXD I'd get a headset, Spirit is one of those killers than NEED one. But tbh, earbuds might work actually. Try it.
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Spirit can handle god tier SWF. A ridiculously skilled god Hag can too (I used to be able to). Billy too.
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@KillermainBTWm8 yeah, I picked her up in 2 games, but I'm still learning Spirit.
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@TreemanXD wear headphones, and activate spatial sound. Then it's a massive loop of learning to predict, mindgame and chase. It's tough af.
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@TreemanXD my guy!
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@GrootDude said:
@Poweas you’re correct.
@TreemanXD :D. I'm going to make a thread about it and ask them to change my mind.
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Plague, has the most detail.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484603#Comment_484603
Nobody has “twisted your words”.
A.Yes She is.
B.Her add ons aren’t.
C.She does require a lot of skill.
@TreemanXD yes, but nowhere near as much as Spirit.
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Leatherface is the worst. Freddy can at least delay the game, Leatherface has nothing.
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@KaoMinerva definitely disagree with B, she does need reworks for her range addons and her extra blinks.
Also disagree with C, Spirit undoubtedly takes more skill.
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@TreemanXD done, thanks for telling me.
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@TreemanXD OH GOD DAMN IT. 2 SECONDs.
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@GrootDude said:
@Poweas I see the names.
@TreemanXD how?
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This will be no surprise to everyone, but undoubtedly Spirit. Hag is close second.
With Spirit I just love the mindgames and being rewarded for my skill. I love how she's not unbeatable, but she can win just as well as Nurse. Not much else to say honestly, she's just my favourite.
Hag, I love because of the planning, strategy and most of all, her incredible snowball. I don't think any other killer in DBD can snowball like a Hag and that's being completely honest. I love how like Spirit, she's not unbeatable, but can win like Nurse if you're good enough. And she rewards skill, planning and brains. Oh and she can mindgame with traps sometimes.
In short, I love mindgaming.
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Wait that's in a bad order, let me fix it.
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My favourite is this, this guy was a real gem-
See below.
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Kate, too thicc to ignore.
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484467#Comment_484467
I love the spirit too, but these renewing powers will kill her for me. The nurse here wins :/ And that you can not use it when it is not fully loaded. It hurts very much.
@noneofyourbusiness that used to annoy the absolute hell out of me. It was sooo unbearable. But, if you adapt to it, (I managed to by strictly playing her base only) it's quite a small inconvenience. If you are good at chaining hits with the phase quickly, the cooldown is irrelevant.
Most the time, the 5 second duration is more than enough to get a hit and I usually have about 3/4 of the bar to fill (11.25 seconds) but sometimes have half of the bar to fill (7.5 seconds). And it's quite easy. Sometimes, I get a hit, phase and a down within like 7 seconds. Her chasing is insanely strong and undoubtedly the best in the whole of DBD.
But yeah, you might need practice if the cooldown gets to you. No offense obviously, I think you're an awesome player but you should try practicing Spirit if the cooldown is the problem. Also, can you imagine Spirit with no cooldown? She would literally be the single best killer in the whole game.
Idk, I might just be used to it, but try adapting to it. You'll find Spirit is basically almost as good as Nurse once you get used to it. I used to have the same issue, it's just a matter of practice.
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@Mandy said:
Thank you so much for this, it genuinely made me cry to read these.
What a lot of people don't realise is that we love the Community, which is why we do what we do. We see the good parts as well as the bad and whilst we do obviously have to enforce the rules it's always incredible to watch the growth of people and to see them develop through their time on the forum.
Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
😍😍😍😍😍
@MandyTalk ❤️
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484434#Comment_484434
For me it's everyday, you have to manage somehow friend :D
@noneofyourbusiness yeah, when I reached rank 3 last season, it was just continuous SWF. I stomped them with Spirit though :P
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484396#Comment_484396
Ty man you're probably better than me :D
@noneofyourbusiness as Nurse, I highly doubt it. I haven't played her in 7 months and I'm probably rusty. Looking at ur skill from that picture alone, I honestly think ur just better than me overall. Because that is an insanely good stomp to the SWF.
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/614/XQ6QTS37O8FP.png
Like someone said that when something happens to the SWF and the survivors are balanced, then we can think about changing the nurse's adoons. Lmao
@noneofyourbusiness damn, you rekt them.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/484374#Comment_484374
I LoL'd for real haha
@Blueberry yeah XD.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483879#Comment_483879
First things first, learn to space your sentences. People don't like to read a long run on paragraph. You also keep typing in broken English with grammatical and structural errors which makes your points very disjointed and difficult to follow to a native English speaker.
"on another post i can't remember where and guy ran through all the killers and their counters to MoM"
This is something I shouldn't have to explain which is why it's annoying. The only counters to MoM are playing a killer that can 1 shot. That is limited to only a few killers and even on those killers you are not reliably going to down someone with that 1 shot every single time. You WILL end up eating that MoM at some point. Now if you play one of the other 3/4 of killers without 1 shots you are just SOL. The perk punishes the killer for doing his job and is ANOTHER chase extender which is extremely unhealthy for the game as we already have an issue with that and it is already why DS got nerfed in the first place.
I didn't want to have to write all this because you aren't going to agree. You aren't going to agree because you don't play killer and survivor at rank 1 so you haven't experienced why ANOTHER chase extender is even a big issue and why it is extremely unhealthy for the game.
Even the devs agree with what I am saying here which is why it's currently being reworked for the next patch in the first place.
"Im not a new player."
Someone with a lot of experience in the game would not think the things that you do which is why I do not believe you. Want to prove me wrong? Link your profile for us to see.
"Because you are play more killer than you do survivor"
What makes you think I play more killer than survivor? This is purely your ASSUMPTION because you disagree with me. I play BOTH sides at rank 1 on every single reset since the game game out.
"Like with your comment saying implying a glitch is a killer buff isn't accurate. I never said it was a killer buff or implied it."
This is you being very disingenuous. You did indeed imply that or there was no reason for you to have said it.
"Those words came outta your deflecting, alternative facts mouth"
Please list what I have "deflected".
Also, "alternative facts"? That doesn't even make sense. Facts are facts. You can't have such a thing as alternative facts, that's an oxymoron.
"You just saw the always and are like wrong,"
No, that is incorrect. I didn't jump at the word "always". Even "generally" speaking, your statement was still not accurate.
"generalization and exaggeration"
As I said, even taken as a generalization your statement is still simply not true.
"I have friends that have been ranked 1 many seasons constantly, and play killer somewhat as well so this isn't just a biased opinion from me"
You are basing your opinions on watching some other players...not even your own experience. You must realize the fallacies in that.
"You on the hot nonsense right now cause im talking about your main role and obviously you feeling personally attacked and are taking it some type of way."
You have no idea what my "main role is", you just assumed it. I also do not feel personally attacked at all. You are assuming my responses are based on emotion from your replies and that isn't the case whatsoever. You have just been advocating for terrible changes that you know nothing of and could potentially ruin the game that I care deeply for.
"Killers have to be super op cause its 4v1 is the go to staple comment and argument from majority of people that disagree with survivors complaining about anything unfavorable towards them."
Are you really implying that in an ASSYMETRICAL 4v1 that the singular role should not be more powerful than the individual survivors? That is literally what an asymmetrical game is.
@Blueberry not going to lie, when you said 'First things first' it reminded me of Nightcore Believer.
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@not_Queen @Patricia @Peanits @Gay Myers (Luzi) @MandyTalk you guys are awesome!
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Yeah I still have a laugh.
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@gantes I'm not going to bother discussing this with you. You obviously wont understand.
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I'd sell tryhard beads.
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@GrootDude said:
@Poweas I know XD I think in that thread I’ve been aggressive. Although I think spirit is a touchy subject for you, kinda like nurse for me.
@TreemanXD she honestly is, I cant see how people think she's so much worse than she is. And Hag. They're both Second (Spirit) and Third (Hag) respectively. Billy sucks in comparison.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483550#Comment_483550
I generally try to stay polite but sometimes I get a bit aggressive.
@TreemanXD saying that, I literally just went aggressive in ur thread XD.
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@gantes Nurse is jukable, but Spirit is not.
So I'll send the 'LOL' back.
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@gantes said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483344#Comment_483344
LOL
Sure, if you can't hit your blinks as Nurse Spirit is better
I'm talking about God Nurses, not an average to good player playing Nurse.
@gantes LOL if you are even relevant as Spirit, she chases far better than Nurse. It's a fact. If you can't see that, then you need to seriously improve. Spirit can manage 7 seconds chases. I saw it all the time as survivor and do it sometimes as killer. And she's unjukable. Obviously this is from when she wasn't bugged, since this data was collected like 5-9 months ago. #
Once she's not bugged again, I will show you the evidence.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483539#Comment_483539
@Poweas at least we’ve all changed for the better, admittedly my toxic side still shows every now and then.
@TreemanXD the amount of times I hold myself from going aggressive at people is unreal. But I do.
@PhantomMask20763 said:
I've been more mean as of recent, I am disappointed in myself 😔
You can still easily fix it @PhantomMask20763
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@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483520#Comment_483520
Trust me, I was way worse in my early days. I didn't even want to open this discussion because I couldn't stand to see how awful I was back then. Don't judge me too harshly, I'm a different person now, I promise!
Well, open fire at me: I regret doing this a lot, it's been on my conscious for a awhile now. I asked @Gay Myers (Luzi) to delete this discussion because I hate seeing it on my history. 😭
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/1877/console-reporting-in-dbd#latest
@NMCKE wow, you were lowkey toxic. No offense. But, we all change eventually.
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@friendlykillermain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483517#Comment_483517
We all masks mistakes don’t wirry about it no one has lost their cool more than I did and I regret that
@friendlykillermain I'm just really happy we all changed lol. Most of us in this thread have changed a ton, it's why we get along so well.
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@NMCKE then Luzi warned me about my situation and helped me out, and I changed my ways completely.
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@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483323#Comment_483323
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/483358#Comment_483358
Aww, thank you but I really don't deserve it to be honest. I usually don't like admitting to my mistakes, but I use to be really rude tbh.
@NMCKE you'd be surprised how rude I was about 2-3 months ago. Heres a few examples
@Poweas said:
@thekiller490490 said:
IlI' be sure to keep hitting survivors on the hook as long as people t bag after pallet stunning me. You can deal with your character screaming their face off for a couple minutes.How does that annoy you? In 2019? Seriously?! Obviously they're trying to tilt you and if you facecamp them, you're giving them the salt they want. Then they'll flame you in the aftergame chat. Best thing is to nod at them and smack them on the hook. It annoys them so much more then the teabagging annoys you.
@Poweas said:
@Onionthing said:
Legion's creation makes me smile:Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't tunnel?
Killers: What? This is a awful idea ...
Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't instant down you?
Killers: Okay but we will need some outplay mechanics or...
Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't have traps/invisibility or other mind game gimmicks?
Killers: Wait.. what? How are we supposed to...
Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't get much use out of the most common "broken" perks out there like NOED?
Killers: Devs you can't seriously be listening to this garbage right? Cause..
Devs: Here we go friends, a non tunnel, non insta-down, just gotta run fast, time wasting troll as ordered
Survivors: This isn't very fun
Killers: /facepalm
Typical. Always assuming that killer mains are right. I was a neutral player but now I'm a killer main (solo survivor is so boring) but I don't agree with you thinking killer mains have the moral high ground. They don't there are lots of survivor mains who have common sense too.
Trust me, I was a lot more aggressive than you ever were @NMCKE which is why I respect you so much.