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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2062720#Comment_2062720
Ngl I unironically had a dream about there being a massive overhaul alongside the 5th anniversary that addressed most of the issues with the game and idk if that was the alcohol kicking in or what
Freddy hit you so hard ingame it made you dream IRL 😴
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@Kolossoni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2062724#Comment_2062724
"Having multiple strong killers is a good thing because that means that there are more different kinds of killers you play against. Nothing is more boring than having to play against the same thing over and over again."
No no no. Don't say that. It should be the opposite!
The more strong killers there are the more common they'll be!
Like with strong perks, they'll dominate the game with the presence and that's not good!
If you want all killers to be strong then all the survivors will have to be strong too, and that's absolutely a big NO NO!
We should be making everyone less strong overall so that weaker ones don't get to be seen so weak!
Or we could just buff the weaker ones :P
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@Kolossoni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2062617#Comment_2062617
If strong killers were to be equally balanced, to the point where the Trickster didn't look so bad everything would be good.
Same with survivor perks.
Of course, the downside would be that people won't buy him until that happens.
Most people want to buy strong & fun killers anyway that make them feel good when playing. Not some mediocre, average killer.
But I think it's better for the health of the game.
Trickster isn't even average/mediocre.He's just bad.Like really really bad.
I get it.
Not every killer has to be Nurse and Spirit tier but they have to be decent so people actually want to play.
Having multiple strong killers is a good thing because that means that there are more different kinds of killers you play against.
Nothing is more boring than having to play against the same thing over and over again.
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My expectations are already down to 0.
I don't want to be dissappointed for the third time in a row
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@SnakeSound222 said:
I don’t see a point in the knives. It seems pointless to use them unless you’re in M1 range. Am I really supposed to play him as a 110% M1 Killer?
If you're at anything other than a low wall loop then yes
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@SasukeKun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2062163#Comment_2062163
there's buffs coming?
Nothing officially confirmed yet,but pretty much everyone agrees he's really really weak and needs some serious buffs.
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@Warcrafter4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2062134#Comment_2062134
Man he must be giving the plague a run for her money to be better at deranking then her with her legendary 4k depip.
At least i get Brutal Killer with her 🤣
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2062165#Comment_2062165
The only time I got a 3k or a 4k as Trickster was when the survivors basically hard threw the game and handed me the win.
Against actually good survivors? There's been games where I'm struggling to even get a single hook and if I'm lucky I'll get one or two more.
He's just so bad. He has no map control, no lethality, no snowball potential, no nothing. If you even get a survivor on the hook, you have to camp or tunnel for any chance to get a kill.
If you even get a survivor on the hook, you have to camp or tunnel for any chance to get a kill.
That's my Trickster experience in a nutshell
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@[Deleted User] said:
I mean lets not underestimate how bad survivors can be haha.
I just 4k'd against a red rank SWF as Trickster on Haddonfield. I only downed maybe like....one person with my power the entire game. Basically just playing Gunslinger without a gun.
Same,had a game where survivors just ran up to me to get downed by Starstruck.It happened so often in that match that i started to ask myself if they even get an Exposed notification 🤣
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@[Deleted User] said:
You're not supposed to win you're supposed to make sure the other players have a good time. Be the party clown.
Well,he is an entertainer after all 😉
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Noticed that bug aswell.
Great,now i can't even use one of my favourite perk combos anymore.
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@UnentitledBunnyMan said:
U can't control which way survivors run towards as killer, u can only follow or cut corner. This killer might be okay in open ground but terrible in tight high loops
Even then we already have lots of killers that can punish outpositioned survivors better than him.
He's just trash and there's no reason to play him over any other killer right now
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The only power he has is deranking like nobody else.
I'd rather play console Blight 😧
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@Zaytex said:
Not going to lie I played Huntress straight after a Trickster game where I didn't even get a single hook because HES that bad and I suddenly got a 4k.
He's so bad it's undescribeable. I'd even say he's E tier, D is too good for him.
Trickster is pretty much a Trapper buff because he isn't the worst killer in the game anymore
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@GodDamn_Angela said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061864#Comment_2061864
Main Event is the worst design decision BHVR has made in a long time. You lose time if you don't down someone almost immediately with it. The start-up, stun, and cooldown are unbelievable. If you don't down anyone with it you're basically throwing. AND you have no real control over when to activate it because the bar resets after a certain amount of time of not activating it. It's insane.
Main Event is the most pathetic power i've ever seen.
Just compare it to other power spikes like Myers Tier 3,Plagues Corrupt Purge or Onis Blood Fury.
I don't get them,are they using the magic conch from Spongebob Squarepants to make their design decisions or something?
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@CornHub said:
As a community we sometimes forget that the way we play is vastly different from the way the devs intended this game to be played. The same way old Freddy & Twins aren't supposed to be played as a regular killer could be the same case for the Trickster.
I assure you that Trickster has absolutely NOTHING over any killer in the game.
He just has no identity power wise.There's not a single situation where you'd think "Damn,i would have not been able to do that with any other killer.
The only thing he's great at is getting "Entity Displeased" over and over again.
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I'm sure you've been here long enough to figure it out yourself.
This the same as the Twins or the UI change
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061448#Comment_2061448
Hi, my name is Charlotte, and this is my brother Victor. Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, the Entity?
Twins are absolutely awful to go against but at least they are able to actually get kills
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@Cancan71 said:
Besides the obvious downsides of aiming with a controller, I think the main two killers that suffer from controller are Blight and Trickster.
Blight for his attack that can barely go past 45° on console.
Trickster for his ridiculous autoaim that while manageable on PC, is a nightmare on console.
Seriously it feels like I have joy con drift while playing Trickster, if joy con drift made your cursor snap from side to side. It's almost impossible to hit someone running in a straight line consistently.
Agreed.
Trickster and Blight are the only Killers that really suffer on console.
Everything else is fine
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@[Deleted User] said:
HE's special because no one can lose as hard as he can.
Oh yeah,he's a "Entity Displeased" machine.
Why play AFK Wraith if you could just play Trickster 😎
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@GeneralV said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060234#Comment_2060234
As an Old Freddy main, I guarantee you would. Old Freddy was a very underrated killer, and quite deadly once you managed to master his unique playstyle.
Trickster has nothing, other than a very weak power and "Main Event", which isn't even threatening.
Yeah,i used to play old Freddy a lot too (Coulrophobia was amazing on him).And he 100% is waaay better than current Trickster.
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@HealsBadMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061513#Comment_2061513
Surge can be use efficiently and isn't complete garbage. He's the Killer version of Monstrous Shrine.
Yeah ok that's a better comparison 🤣
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This killer really is overbalanced.
He's the killer version of Surge
EDIT:Ok,he's the killer version of Monstrous Shrine
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@Zaytex said:
Yeah this guy is fun but he's easily one of the worst killers, if not, the weakest of them all. I'm just debating on whether Trickster or Trapper is the worst, because they're both awful.
Trapper is 115% so that already makes him better than Trickster
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061448#Comment_2061448
Ptb Ghostface was worse but they did fix him at least
Also old Freddy is probably worse
Old Freddy is WAY better than current Trickster imo
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It's kinda funny how any other killer with a power spike that has to be earned has a really strong and scary power (e.g Plague,Oni,Myers)
And then we have Trickster """Main Event""" which is just him throwing a barrage of knives at the survivor.It looks so stupid and isn't even close to being a threat as survivor
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@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060931#Comment_2060931
That no competition survives is pretty much proof that DBD is NOT garbage.
DbD is definetely not garbage,but it could also be a LOT better than it is right now
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@[Deleted User] said:
When the clown mains think Trickster is bad.....I don't know if the developers could have a bigger red flag.
Clown isn't even CLOSE to Tricksters level of weak
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@OtterBelief said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2059942#Comment_2059942
I play both sides generously, killer and survivor. I tend to play more killer, I am a fan of the hunt.
I have used each killer extensively over 4years, also every DLC and here is a little insight on my experience playing the *Trickster*..
His main ability - throwing knives - well let’s talk about that for a while..
• There is unpredictable horizontal & vertical recoil, to echo what someone said above - you fight it more than the survivors.
• There is no true aim, and the knife throw grouping is so inaccurate, you can easily miss someone in front of you (trying to aim at them)
• Can we talk about the FPS drop when beginning to throw a knife ? Borderline makes him unplayable.
• Any LOS blocker, renders him useless.l and trust me there are a lot of them. Couple that with the decreased movement speed 95% while throwing knives & it you can say goodbye that chase... you would of won using your basic attack.
But don’t take my word for it, try him yourself . My assessment, 0/10, stay away or only purchase with shards.
Already played several matches with him.
It seem to be much easier to go for normal hits if the survivor isn't completely out in the open or at a low wall loop which is terrible for a 110% killer
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061199#Comment_2061199
Well I think the in-game reason for recoil was to prevent a lack of line of sight from being a death sentence. They overdid it, undeniably, but it's still a well-deserved concept.
But we already have killers like that (e.g Nurse and Deathslinger)
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061182#Comment_2061182
I doubt Trickster is going to get buffed. His whole niche is a thin line between kicking nurse out of line and dumpster fire.
That's quite a bold assumption that anything could beat Nurse in this game
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2061178#Comment_2061178
Well you're putting your whole arm into it so it probably should. Definitely more than an ipecac drinking contest.
Killers in this game are supposed to be something supernatural so i could see it getting removed.
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060245#Comment_2060245
I don't know what kind of food poisoning you've had but I can assure you that vomit is not supposed to cause recoil. Even after Taco Bell.
I mean,throwing knives shouldn't cause that much recoil either 🤷♂️
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@onemind said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060665#Comment_2060665
Well considering that he had 3 weeks to be adjusted and in that time they somehow nerfed his best addon and only gave him quality of life changes ohh and added a cooldown to his poweraftwr main event
The cooldown after Main Event is so stupid imagine that on killers like Myers or Plague
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Can someone show a picture of it?
Haven't played on this map yet after the update.
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It REALLY sounds weird.
Make sure nobody hears you while she's on your shoulder 😳
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@Profezia said:
Knives dont hit survivors when they are supposed to
You cant do anything at loops because apparently knives dont have enough speed to hit survivors
Lacefuckyouation disappears almost immediately so if you lose a survivor you can say goodbye to those knives you've landed
Main event hasn't been useful even for once because Im forced to use it immediately (which usually happens when I'm already a few knives away from downing a survivor)
He really feels like an old legion, with an exception that old legion was at least fun to play because of many stabs and speed.
Never have I felt myself so helpless as I felt when playing this killer, even though I had a lot of experience playing huntress or deathslinger
I usually stood to an opinion not to judge things until I've tried them myself and I decided to give "tRiCkStEr" a chance, well, that was a mistake.
You're really losing your grip BHVR, because gameplay wise this chapter is a disappointment. I felt like maybe it would give me some more fun in this game, but no, it only ruined my day and mood for the rest of that day.
Goodbye, I've played this game for almost 5 years and this "chapter" and its atrocious killer was the last straw that broke my spine. Couldn't care less about other changes you also couldn't deliver working properly.
I guess I'll have even more fun playing dota, than this game.
Uninstalling, maybe I'll hang out on these forums to monitor the situation for next mid-chater/chapter, but nothing more for sure.
Never have I felt myself so helpless as I felt when playing this killer, even though I had a lot of experience playing huntress or deathslinger
I totally agree with this.
I would be better off just ignoring his power and go for normal hits because it's so extremely clunky and frustrating to use,especially on console
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@ManWithALemon said:
Trickster has the most self-defeating power I've ever seen.
It's meant to be spammed, right? Without spam, you're not going to get downs quickly. The problem with that is that in order to spam, you need to stay in throw mode. And when you're in throw mode, you move SLOWER THAN NURSE.
So you enter throw mode, start spamming, and then the Survivor rounds a corner after two or three knives. Add on to that the fact that he's 110 so he can't catch up and initiate spam to begin with, and you have a completely useless power that literally cancels itself out.
That's like making Legion heal Survivors with Frenzy. Why did this Killer make it to live like this? Why did they NERF him off the PTB?!
It's dumb,
You need to be as precise as Deathslinger,but need to hit 8 times while being slower as the survivor and on top of that deal with the horrible spread/recoil.
So the best option most of the time is to just hit them instead of trying to use his power...
As a 110% movement speed killer.. 😦
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@TheMidnightRidr said:
They gave him pretty much every weakness possible. Slow? Check. Recoil? Check. Even slower when using power? Check. Needs to land an absurd amount of knives to even cause one health state? Check. Lacerations disappear after a short time? Check.
I love the character and everything they’ve done with him, but the power is embarrassing. Now that he’s out, hopefully they’ll finally give him the attention he needs. Key word “hopefully”.
Yep,i have never felt so weak playing a new killer like i did with Trickster.It's pretty sad to see how a normal hit is often times better than using your power.
As a 110% movement speed killer... 😧
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@Yords said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060280#Comment_2060280
Dropping a pallet early on Clown deprives him of a hit, trickster can still throw knives at the survivor who just did.
That only helps on loops with low walls though.
And clown can definetely play around certain dropped pallet
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@Yords said:
Clown is still weaker, at least Trickster has some lethality on loops with gaps.
I'm telling you that Clown is WAY better than Trickster could ever dream of
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@Astrian said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060226#Comment_2060226
He'd still be unplayable
Yeah,but then i would actually be able to hit with his knives
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Yeah,playing him on console is definetely fun :^)
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@gibblywibblywoo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060234#Comment_2060234
You would. He's 115%. Honestly any 115% killer without a power could do better than him at this point. Wraith from 3 years ago could do better than him.
Yep,at least Trapper isn't the worst killer in the game amymore 👀
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I don't even know why he has it in the first place.
Plague didn't have that so why does Trickster have to deal with this?
It makes him pretty much unplayable and i would rather play Plague,Huntress or Deathslinger and get WAY better amd easier games.
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@gibblywibblywoo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2059456#Comment_2059456
People called old Freddy bad. He was. New Freddy was never considered bad.
I feel like i would get more kills with old Freddy than with current Trickster.
It's quite depressing honestly
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Just remove the spread and recoil from him.
Imagine Plague had something like this.It's unnecessary and makes him pretty much unplayable on console imo
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@SilentHillOnDvD said:
I feel so weak with this killer. Playing him just makes my head hurt and annoys me. 3 months for this piece of trash? How do you do so good on blight but flop with 2 killers after him?
I mean,even Twins are pretty decent if you camp and slug a lot.
But Trickster?
He's beyond weak.
Especially on console with this awful spread and recoil
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Yeah,i don't get it either.
Played a few matches with him and was constantly asking myself.
"Why would i ever play this guy instead of Huntress,Plague or Deathslinger?"
Also,the recoil and spread is the worst thing ever and makes hitting with the knives incredibly hard on console
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@ALostPuppy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2060038#Comment_2060038
It does go up and to the right so moving the mouse down and to the left slightly would be the way to control it, but it recoils in such an unintuitive way that it's nearly impossible to control properly. It shouldn't even be there in the first place tbh.
God have mercy on console players because I have absolutely no idea how they're gonna control this guy.
I can tell you it's absolutely awful on console.
The recoil amd spread is so damn hard to control on console that i might aswell play Huntress,Plague or Deathslinger and have a MUCH easier time.