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@Imagine_Milk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1962598#Comment_1962598
i never said it is the devs fault for bad teammates. please don't put words in my mouth.

I am am not putting words in your mouth. You start with a statement calling the DEV ignorant. That is not particularly constructive, nor likely to get you the response you want. You follow up by complaining that you can't survive. If I were to, like any English teacher would, diagram your sentences I would show that you blame bad teammates for it. The other stuff you mention have NOTHING (absolutely nothing) to do with your survival rate. So whether you know it or not, that OP blames the DEV for you having bad teammates.

Your other gripes are your other gripes, and there is nothing wrong with them. They are, however, irrelevant to the main issue you are upset about. We all face the same problems. Some of us survive JUST FINE. Stop blaming other people or the company for your own failures. It has no dignity. Own your problems. Control the things you can control.

in I've had enough. This needs to be said. Comment by Moundshroud February 21, 2021

@Imagine_Milk said:
Devs. You guys are honestly very impulsive and ignorant. I can't even play a game without depiping. I work my ASS off to survive but still can't survive. I keep deranking every match because of the teammates I get. Nobody asked for the new animations or HUD. You guys don't even listen to your community who try and help you make this game better. You guys only follow your path and never take advice from us. I don't understand why some things need to be rectified immediately but the ones that need to be fixed immediately are put off. For example, you guys are so worried about getting killers in the game but you don't even pay attention to what needs to be fixed. I love this game but, the state that it is in may make this game decline. I can't rank up. My teammates are all over the place. I'm sorry that I'm this serious but it must be said. You guys don't even play your own game too often which can show that you guys don't have REAL empathy for us. But with that being said, I don't hate anything about this game. It's my favorite game to play in my free time. I just wish you guys would pay attention to the things that are significant.
Have a great day! Feel free to give me criticism

How exactly is you having BAD teammates the DEV's fault? Do you think they can magically match you with only Superstars? :) Your other gripes have nothing to do with your MAIN complaint, i.e. your teammates suck. That is on you and them to correct.

in I've had enough. This needs to be said. Comment by Moundshroud February 21, 2021

@Thasard said:
I got all my survivor and killer rift tasks done so I've just been waiting for Level 2 to be released with just my daily tasks to give me purpose. Maybe I shouldn't do these tasks because they're always on my non-Prestige 3 characters with less than optimum perks.
I've been trying to get Kate to survive to open an exit gate, but the first match had 2 survivors crouching across the map (I saw this from the start with my Bond), allowing the 4th survivor to get to the second hook stage and then left me to die on my second hook so they could get the hatch together because one of them brought a key (I didn't notice this).
Game 2: I brought a key and decided I was going to be selfish and play like those other survivors. Except every time the killer saw me, they stopped everything they were doing and tunneled me to take the key out of the match. And the window hits have never felt worse than they did with this update with this Blight.
I'm trying to find the point in playing this game if all I do is wait for more rift tasks. It just feels like all the good players have left the game, and all we're left with are crappy survivors who don't do crap in this game.

For all the people who complain and say Solo is nothing but hell, I assure you it is still possible to play. Is it harder? Yes. Can it still be fun (and can you still win)? Yes. I play most games Solo and I do ok. When it comes down to it I'd rather be with a team of ALL Solos than a damn 2 or 3 Person SWF. That is what is awful for Solo Players, being treated like the Red Shirt.

in How do people still play this game solo? Comment by Moundshroud February 21, 2021

@PodgeNotRodge said:
I mean it needs a change. Yes. But does it need the current idea change, fuckn hell no. And let me explain why:
Current change is basically now: Once unhooked, you have 1 minute of DS at tier 3 so if you go down by tunneling, you get an escape of shoulder free card. But doing literally anything will negate it. Ok. So same as before but now you cant do anything.
Heres why that doesnt work for survivor more than it does for killer.
A survivor with 1 minute DS must now make a choice.
Option 1: Be useless for a full minute doing nothing to progress the team for the sake of holding on to DS. Deliberately get tunneled but killer picks up on this... slug. Useless anyways.
Option two: Waste DS in that split second thinking the killer is going for someone else, attempt heal, 20 to 30 seconds later, killer spots you, downs you. DS useless.
Option 3: jump in and out of a locker in Hope's the killer will grab you. Killer realises you're being useless... DS useless.
Option 4: On the off chance you may or may not have interacted with something if the killer comes back to you after 40 seconds and downs you. Get slugged on the off chance killer still thinks you have DS... DS useless.
Or Option 5: You do get tunneled and by some miracle not slugged.
So I ask... how is making a survivor perk benefit the killer more a good thing? I mean, it's now made to be an "Anti-Tunnel" perk now but all that is defeated by simply slugging... as it was before change. I get it, I play mostly killer and I dislike eating DS's when I dont deliberately tunnel. I am guilty of slugging sometimes depending on how much they pissed me off. Other times I will deliberately eat a DS.
But this change is dogshit for survivors and now it's gone from a garunteed survivor freebie to a garunteed win win killer freebie. Cause 4 out of these 5 options benefit killer more than survivors. And if you had more than one with DS at once, that's twice as bad for them.
I say again, this needs a good balanced change. Not this current idea that makes them be punished if you potato for a minute, or punished cause you tried doing something but got tunneled 30 seconds later.

Incorrect; you do not pass go, and do not collect $200.00. Your entire premise is wrong because you are working under the assumption that you CANNOT do anything for (60) seconds or DS turns off. That is because you are STILL trying to operate under the framework of using DS aggressively. As soon as you are SAFE, feel free to get on anything you want. Consider the following:

Killer does not follow you. It does get wasted. You can get on anything you want.
Killer does tunnel you immediately; you use DS and get a 2nd chance.
You move off and squat like a toad wanting to save that DS for some reason.

Two out of three of these options are fine for you as a Survivor. Only ONE of them works in favor of the Killer (most of the time). Look if you want to squat like a toad, more power to you, but you don't HAVE to do anything. The only reason to do it is because you are hoping to stun that Killer. That is your choice. But if the Killer does NOT immediately tunnel you, the DS isn't going to be wasted anyway.

in Yes, it's about DS Comment by Moundshroud February 21, 2021

@Dragonshensi said:
Just had a match where everyone was constantly grouped together and the minute I hooked someone they would unhook. Of course most of them had Dead Hard except one. They kept trying to bodyblock and would never leave the hook so forced me to camp. Finally downed the one who didn’t have dead hard and killed him. Everyone else escaped. Think they were a team cause I could never find them for the longest. Also I’m low level Killer 13. Getting ranked with sweaty tryhard reds. The one I killed messaged me accusing me of tunneling and I need to get skills. It’s not my fault they all hovered around the hook and I couldn’t leave. I seriously wanted to DC cause it was the swamp, everything was dark and all everyone do was crouch. I only get one kill and I get hate for it. And of course these survivors were toxic. Constantly tbagging and such. I managed to hook and chase others so I wasnt tunneling. I mostly camped the dude during endgame cause they were constantly around me. All of them.
It made me feel like a loser honestly. They had all the advantages in this match and I had practically none. I was the Huntress. I can throw a hatchet....yay. Honesty doesn’t make me want to play Killer anymore.

Just ignore the after game chatter. Who cares about some nameless, faceless idiot quacking on the internet?

in Apparently Chasing Someone is Tunneling Comment by Moundshroud February 21, 2021

@hardtimefun said:
Do you think survivors will just run around when they get unhooked trying to bait the killer into chasing them?
Will they do objectives and deactivate the perk and complain about tunnel and make forums posts about it? (this is not a insult or complain, i am pretty sure it will be a thing)
remove it entirely from their builds?
How do you think this change will affect the game?

I don't think it will affect the percentages of people who run it one bit.

in with the upcoming DS nerf, how do you think it will affect survivors behavior/build? Comment by Moundshroud February 21, 2021

@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1960487#Comment_1960487
Why are you avoiding the question? I’ve just asked for an estimate

I didn't avoid it. I was quite clear. I don't have enough information to make an estimate, nor do you. If you like, I'd be happy to track my next hundred matches as a Killer and as a Survivor (which would be 200 matches) and count the times I am tunneled, i.e. I'm unhooked and immediately followed by the Killer again and hooked next with nothing in between. *Likewise, how often I do it as a Killer. But to get an estimate, you need real data. Otherwise, you are just guessing and your memory will play you false. You will remember what you want to remember, i.e. whatever feeds your theory. It is seeking confirmation bias.

So, exactly WHAT are you basing YOUR estimates on? You seem to throw around a lot of numbers. Where is that data coming from?

in The DS change looks good but... Comment by Moundshroud February 21, 2021

@Jarol said:
Lately I no longer see anyone using any Memento from either Cypress, Ivory and Ebony in my games when I play survivor. Maybe in your case it is different, but lately in mine I don't see any sign of memento mori. Is it because the rate of increase of the use of the 3 offerings has dropped considerably after the nerf they gave? Since before they used it a lot and eliminated the 1 hanging hook.

The change they made to the Memento (and the Green) was overkill and made them entirely pointless, UNLESS you want to play very dirty and play keep away after your first hook. You can, if you want, use them to force the first hooked Survivor to go to 2nd Stage and then allow the rescue and Mori off the hook taking the game to a 3v1 relatively early. That is the only value they have not, and most people aren't that cutthroat. I never used them that often to begin with as they are counterproductive to points and Emblem advancement. However, if I bring one in, you can rest-assured I'm going to use it to maximum potential and I will use that nasty tactic.

in Nobody uses the memento mori anymore? Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@ITSMEASS said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1960768#Comment_1960768
Okay, thats true, sometimes camping is necessary, but its not necessary like, 5 gens left, 1 survivor on hook and a bubba in front of it... Thats not fair, and losing a pip from rank its not even something that killers cares, some of them just want derank to bully newbies. Thats why this matchmaking is not even fair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSrv-yE6Agk

Accept it, embrace it, or not. It's not fair, but that is just the way things are.

in Hook camping Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@ITSMEASS said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1960734#Comment_1960734
So that why Im saying this, to killers stop camping and learn how to play.

Herding, Camping, Tunneling, Slugging, and the Mori are all niche tactics that Killers can use. It doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing. Done wrong they hurt the Killer; done right they are very potent. Why don't you spend less time worrying about what OTHER people are doing and more on yourself. Control the things you can control. We all face the same problems and obstacles. Some of us seem to be doing fine. That means you need to OWN your own failures and stop blaming the Killer for doing his/her job and start worrying about you doing YOURS.

in Hook camping Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@ITSMEASS said:
Okay so, camping the hook its something that a lot of killers does and I think there's should be a change. So, if a killer stay in an area like 20-30 metters of the hook, it freezes, stopping the countdown. That would be fair because, most of this kind of plays ruin the fun of the players and for that, you will need to change some perks that stops the countdown. Camping will also make the killer lose, and I think putting that freeze thing, it will help killers get better and making more pressure on the map. Its my suggestion, if you don't like it don't need to "attack" me.

How about... no. Start working your basics, looping, evading, coordination, etc. Accept that nothing is going to change anytime soon, or ever. You either enjoy the game or you don't.

in Hook camping Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@dbdisbroken012 said:
Hello to anyone reading this, I've started to play DBD for about 2 months now. I have a massive love/hate relationship with this game. It's beyond obvious to anyone who has played this game for more than an hour that matchmaking is horrible. I won't be discussing that but I'd like to talk about a problem worse than that, ranking up to a higher level is way too easy. As stated earlier, I'm only two months in and last month I became a rank 3 survivor and I'm currently a rank 5 killer and a rank 8 survivor. For the killer aspect right now it's basically unplayable because of the complete sweats I'm going up against. I honestly don't care for this competitive style and it's ridiculous how fast I got to rank 5 and I don't even think I belong here. As playing both sides, I can promise you I've seen way too many people at the same level as me that are just superior in every single way. At this rank by the time I even hit someone a gen is done and the second one is basically at 80%. Before I hear just get better or maybe you need a better killer/perks I literally don't care to hear that. I have a great setup and maybe that's why I climbed the ranks too fast but its literally unplayable. Also can someone explain how when I'm a rank 5 killer I'm getting only red rank survivors yet when I'm a 8 rank survivor I get red rank killers? I know I'm not the only one with this problem since my friends are always dealing with this. If you happen to be a sweat or a red rank honestly good for you this isn't to attack people like you, it's me stating you should be put into a lobby against someone of equal skill or at least close. Playing comp that's way too difficult won't make you better, it pushes people away.
Next: hatch is way too luck based. I understand why the hatch is in the game and I'm not saying remove it. But for the love of god get rid of the stupid keys people can find/bring in since its completely based on luck when they find that hatch. With or without a key at this rank I literally have to down someone and keep him down just to find the other guy first to get a 4k. If the killer is at this point the killer basically won, why give a key alternative?
Next: Hex totems need a fix. I think it's great that some perks are hex's since some would be way too powerful to have as a guaranteed permanent perk. With that being said, finding them is stupid. I find that normal totems are hidden 5x better than a hex. I mean come on when I'm using hex ruin some games people literally spawn right next to it or literally have it in their view at the start of the game!!!!!! It's so broken and immediately I'm at a massive disadvantage. They need to be in better locations, right next to a hook or gen like really guys. Take this into consideration since its way too common for people to find it so fast.
Next: Bloodweb is awful. I decided I'd give the shape a try since I enjoyed the movies etc. I have a ton of good perks in my web that can be found and I figured he'd definitely get them. He's currently lvl 42 with no barb-chili, no hex ruin and I just found corrupt intervention (finally). The frustration out of seeing these completely GARBAGE perks pop up 20 times before I can even find barbeque and chili once is ridiculous. I would literally spend extra bloodpoints getting these trash perks out of my web.
To sum it up, yes this entire post sounds real negative but its simply because I love this game. I understand maybe there's going to be people that know much more about this game that will pick this apart, but new players is how this game can grow and the developers will earn more money. Just from myself and my friend I play most with the game got $30 out of us and I'm sure I'm not the only new person out there. If you disagree I'd actually like to hear why but as of now, I'm trying to grind through these problems but its hard.

Ranking up is more a matter of time in grade currently than skill. That is because you are not being matched up properly. For the longest time, as I worked toward Rank-1, I was fighting Red/Purple teams every match from the time I hit Green. About a month ago, we entered the "taste rainbow" phase. As a result, I fight all manner of Survivors and sadly most of them should NOT be in the ring with me. I suspect your ease of Ranking has a lot to do with the "taste the rainbow" situation.

in I've got a ton to say Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1960434#Comment_1960434
Okay answer this simple question, roughly as a percentage, how often as a survivor do you get tunnelled? Or if you don’t play survivor, then a rough estimate of how often you think a general survivor gets tunnelled?

I play both Killer and Survivor (Solo mostly). On average, I have no clue. Unlike you, I don't just toss out numbers to try and make my case. When I want to test something, I record my games and go back and count. A good sample size is a hundred matches. Do I think people get tunneled near as much as THEY think they get tunneled? No. But short of collecting actual data, as I have for other experiments, I don't assume. For the record, I don't run DS much at all because I don't think I get a good return on it. However, enough people (a LOT of them do) so clearly they must be getting a return.

in The DS change looks good but... Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1958719#Comment_1958719
Comprehension not something you’ve worked on? My point was to explain the new DS which it did and I didn’t use any math, so mathematics you’ve not learnt either?

And as I've said, and everyone can clearly see, your point is pointless. :) By all means, continue... amaze us with your insight... impress us with your acumen. Continue to tell us that the new DS will be useless and how no one will take it. In short order, we will see if you are right or not. That is why I love these Forums because whenever you post some other bit of your odd wisdom, I'm going to to jump on and link them back to this topic so they can know the quality of your credentials. :)

in The DS change looks good but... Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@poomanchu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1958856#Comment_1958856
I guess that’s a way to look at it, but in red ranks, all survivors are highly motivated gen rushers. It’s difficult to accept making a build specifically relying on a perk that may get you an end game insta down. In the red ranks, as soon as the survivors see you’ve downed 1 with NOED, they are going to find that totem. Seems like a waste of a good perk spot just to get one survivor down.

Of course they are going to find that Totem, but a good Killer isn't facing 3-4 Survivors at the End Game. More often he is facing 2-3 and the time it takes them to find that Totem generally means getting at least 1-2 of those on hooks or slugging them. Again, it isn't a Build I use often, but I've seen it done very effectively. *It bears noting that I play Myers and when I'm not using a Spooky Myers build (Scratched Mirror + Boyfriend's Memo) I'm usually using a Fragrant Tuft of Hair and have infinite Insta-Down long before the end of the match. That is another reason I don't usually run it. However, when I run my Spooky Myers and "ride the lightning," i.e. I don't put in a map offering, it means I am going to be fighting on larger maps and I do often get to the End Game against a Red Rank SWF fighting on terms not favorable. That NOED at the end can come in quite handy.

It really depends on how good you are at keeping up pressure. The greater the pressure you keep on Survivors, the less time they have for doing Bones and the more desperate they get about doing Generators. It becomes easier to manipulate them into a 3-Gen by carefully herding them. Survivors take the path of least resistance when under pressure and thus you can get the 3-Gen which forces them to come fight on your terms. Then the attrition game starts. Red Rank Survivors will break the 3-Gen but you usually get them down to 1-2 before they do and that is a number that NOED can slug.

in NOED Discussion Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@poomanchu said:
I don’t think experienced killers use NOED unless they are doing a gimmick like NOED, & Blood Warden. It’s just a waste of perk slots. There are much better perks to use. So if you’re facing a killer that uses it, either they are new to the game or you are. I guess you could be facing a disgruntled killer who just wants to smash some survivor hopes, & dreams because of an earlier bad beat, but that’s going to be few and far between.

You would be thinking wrong. I'm not trying to be mean, but you do need to understand that NOED is used by all level of Killers. More experienced Killers who take it have specific plans, and are often doing what is called an End Game build. Some top Killers who face Red Rank SWF frequently throw them in because when you are facing a fast Gen-Rush with highly coordinated and motivated individuals, it is nice to have an Insta-Down.

It would be unwise to assume that only Potato Killers use it. It would be better to assume that it could show up at anytime, but with one key difference, experienced Killers are going to use it BETTER. For example, if/when I run NOED (and it isn't a common Perk for me as I'm not huge on the End Game builds) I will purposely ignore their Looper(s) all game. No matter how hard they try to get me to chase them I just decline and focus on the others. After all, their loopers are often NOT on Generators as they try to waste my time. What this means is that when we get to the End Game they generally have less fear of me, have no idea how I loop, and suddenly their first hook is also their final hook.

There are different strategies and styles of play. NOED just thrown in is the sign of a Potato Killer. NOED selected as part of a strategy to be applied during the entire match is going to be far more effective.

in NOED Discussion Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@DownUnder said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1949534#Comment_1949534
How is doing your MAIN objective first is a poor gameplay? And what do you mean by lazy? I do every totem I find in soloq and still can't prevent that pesky perk.

Do I really have to answer this question for you? :) Technically, if you are having a problem with NOED... you kind of already have your answer. I don't think people who don't do Totems are "lazy" but I do think they are gambling. It is a high risk gamble, i.e. will the Killer have NOED or not. It is no different than the gamble the Killer makes when he/she puts NOED in and HOPES it gets to activate. If not, the Killer played one Perk down the whole game.

in NOED Discussion Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1958433#Comment_1958433
######### are you on about? When you can actually understand what I write then reply otherwise just keep quiet. Why do you keep mentioning old DS, I didn’t mention it once and I’m not trying to talk about it. I’m purely talking about the usefulness of the new DS idea

I understand you crystal clear. Your point is irrelevant and your math is dubious at best.

in The DS change looks good but... Comment by Moundshroud February 20, 2021

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1958083#Comment_1958083
https://youtu.be/UkUCmxo2oAk?t=1403
If the link doesn't work, the timestamp should be 23:25
1 survivor on hook about to die, 1 slugged, 1 OoO injured and too afraid to go for unhook, last survivor runs in for the farm.
Had the grab worked that would have been 1 survivor on hook dead, 2 incapacitated just leaving the OoO. Instead the grab cucks him and survivors get to reset the game and get all gens done.
That's been happening for YEARS now. It happens so often and it has a HUGE impact on how the games play out, as you can see from the video.
I'm sure survivors can put up with a few wonky looking hits for a week longer. Consider yourselves lucky that the developers take survivor gameplay as their utmost priority and not an afterthought like they do killers.

Please stop pedaling a false dichotomy. Game balance, for us as Players and the DEV, is not an "us versus" them situation. We all have a vested interest in achieving the best, ROUGH balance possible. Perfect balance is a nice utopian dream, but not achievable in an asymmetrical game. Most of us play both roles, and do not see it in these limited terms you are pushing.

in Killers are mopping up the floor with survivors right now. Thx BHVR Comment by Moundshroud February 19, 2021

@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1958100#Comment_1958100
Lol you clearly don’t understand English or something. Again the stuff you said has nothing to do with what I said. All I explained is that the new DS will be pointless in roughly 90% of games

I understand your posts perfectly. You are not looking at the big picture. How much use do you think people get out of DS now? What percentage of games does it come up in NOW? What I'm pointing out, which you either are missing or purposely ignoring, is that since the new DS has exactly the same utility in so far as tunneling as the old DS, it will get exactly the same use by Players and come up for use just as much. The utility hasn't changed. Thus if you think the new DS is going to be pointless in 90% of games, that means you think it is pointless in 90% of current games. *I disagree with your math. I think it comes up about 30%-40% now for people who use the Perk slot.