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  • @Jack11803 said:

    @RagingCalm said:
    When replying to someone, just use @[username]. Do not quote their whole message, especially if it is very long. Obviously, it is required to quote the message if you are replying to a specific part of it, or 1 of many messages, but then you shoould still try and delete unneccesary parts of that message.

    inb4 you guys spam quoting my message >_<

    @weirdkid5 said:
    Unless it is needed for referential purposes, @ is probably good enough.

    @KroolTheField said:
    Good that you mention this. People need to understand the features of this forum

    Did I do it right ;)

    I think you did a pretty good job so far :wink:

    in PLEASE Comment by Master
  • Exclusive skins
    cough cough

  • @FoxWolfFrostFire said:

    @Master said:

    @ThePloopz said:
    Well what’s stopping a rank 1 killer from farming ultra rares on rank 20 survivors when the rank reset happens because at rank 20, survivors basically give you the 4 man. 

    When a rank 1 killer faces rank 20 survivors it will result in a 4k no matter what addons he uses
    And if he doesnt manage to 4k, then there is sth wrong :wink:

    There is something wrong. The idea that those survivors could also be rank one. Just on rank twenty accounts/Reset/etc. You're acting like it doesn't feel aweful as killer even if you get a 4k. I am just trying to suggest something to maybe make the killers not feel like total ######### and stressed out.

    We were talking about true rank 20 survivors, at least that was the commented to which I reacted.

    And yeah, playing killer is really stressfull and not enjoyable because you are not the powerrole. The balance basically contradicts the whole concept of the game

  • terror radius is reduced to zero, i.e. no heartbeat
    They can still see you, no invisibility
    huntress lullaby isnt effected sadly

  • The only advantage you get frmo palying PTB is experience with the new build

  • Yes I have seen him already

  • @MikeLatin7 said:
    are you crazy the doc is top tier if you know how to work him,

    Excuse me? You can loop a doc easily if you are a somehow experienced survivor
    The only reason why nurse is the only top tier killre is because she cannot be looped

    in The Clown Comment by Master
  • @Vulipus13 said:
    Okay, so please enlighten me as to why if survivors DC a killer gets bonus points and when a killer DC survivors lose everything? When will this ever be fixed? I just get tired of losing all my points and stuff? (Note I have never DC nor do I plan to yet as a killer it seems to be only benificben when force closing app from what I hear)

    Actually its exactly the other way around
    When survivors DC the killer gets a small amount of BP, if all survivors DC he will go out of the game with 2500 BP. He will lose all his addons and offerings which were considereably more expensive than 2500, the game will give him a black pip for that

    If the killer DCs survivor get 5000 BP (everyone of them) for the escape and KEEP their items+addons, they only lose their offerings. They will also be given a blackpip

    To summarize, survivors gain BP from a DC in total, killers lose BP from DCs. Rank will stay the same

  • @GMan79 said:
    Can auric cells be paid with paypal or paysave card or will they be available on steam?

    Most likely both

  • @ThePloopz said:
    Well what’s stopping a rank 1 killer from farming ultra rares on rank 20 survivors when the rank reset happens because at rank 20, survivors basically give you the 4 man. 

    When a rank 1 killer faces rank 20 survivors it will result in a 4k no matter what addons he uses
    And if he doesnt manage to 4k, then there is sth wrong :wink:

  • Definitely bannable, but sadly devs removed the report option.
    The only chance is to upload a video on youtube while leaving the after game report screen open in the background. Then you manually need to copy the link into the report text box, its kinda pathetic I know

  • @SteveyTheExEevee said:

    @Master said:

    @SteveyTheExEevee said:
    You're locking people out the game and are surprised when they complain about it?

    Killing is pretty much kicking them out of the game and rendering them waiting for their SWF mates. They dont like it either and complain about it, but should we just play the clowns?

    Yeah, no #########. But in any other situation where you're NOT hookcamping or INSTANTLY using a mori on them after a hook, they actually got to play the [BAD WORD] game they paid for. Expecting you to play hte game as it was designed as a killer is not "you playing like a clown". Its...surprise surprise, you not being an entitled little ######### and playing the game!

    Ahhh dont quote that.... it was prior to the clown release on PTB, now my statement is kinda pathetic, :silenced:

    in Camping Comment by Master
  • I would love to see a really detailed hag guide, after the clown dissapointment I think I will give her a try when the vacuum is removed

    in The Hag Comment by Master
  • @Jack11803 said:
    It’s the killers fault for trying to pick the survivor up, or trying to kill them. /s

    Yes, instead you should let every DS bleed out. Thats the alternative how to kill them

  • @powerbats said:
    @Master The devs are working on the looping issue and as I've said before most of my games the killer either aces all 4 or camps and aces all 4. The super high rank games are where this is probably more of an issue then say the 15-20 range or there abouts.

    Funny, but when I camp I rarely get 4 kills, only if I am playing against a really stupid SWF, but this is an exception

    Btw camp = standing in front of the hook
    Having an eye on the hook while checking nearby gens isnt camping :wink:

    in Camping Comment by Master
  • @Saint_Judas said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @FrenziedRoach said:
    I'm gonna have to say no. They said it would never come back, and I would prefer they stick with what they said.

    Going back on it just sets a bad precedent and makes me wonder if I can trust their word again.

    I would be cool with them sticking to their word if so many people didn't hack Legacy and if their own ineptitude didn't cause hundreds of people to lose their earned Legacy. They gave it back to 72hrs.

    Why not everyone else that lost it? Seems unreasonable to me.

    streamer benefits, its a sad chapter

    Of course. Streamer benefits is the most shameful business practice any developer could do.

    The twitch shirt is cool. Literally doing special things for Streamers is not.

    I can only tell you that you shouldnt give the slightest [BAD WORD] about skins
    Just hope that they concentrate on balance.... dont disturb them because they cant even get the easiest stuff right =(

    Trust me I am more concerned about balance. But again, the art team and balance team are completely separate and don't interact much. Skins can be done at the same time as actual balancing.

    Funny that yuo say that, in the store I can see pitch black cloths, I wonder how this is affecting the balance,.....

    Black clothing only works on some maps though. Sure on Macmillan estate and Prenn Asylum its op af, but put that person on Coldwind or Lerys? Not nearly as good there eh

    Survivors have the power to choose the map

  • @Axlegolas said:

    @Master said:

    Í would stand my man if this were a balanced game. But at the moment?`A squadette with flashlights and most likely 4 DS? Nah thanks, thats not why I play killer

    then there are also ping issues btw....

    this is a perfect example...you only play killer when you're sure you kill all. that's no competition, poor killer. dodging flashlights has nothing to do with balancing. you can avoid beeing flashed, just another mimimi killer with no skills. that's exactly why dodging should be punished!

    @powerbats i agree it is an overall problem of BOTH sides. rage quitting of the swf should also be punished hard. so many teabag swf out there who, once get caught after minutes of looping and teabagging, just ragequit. no one wants those swf, even the rest of the swf group

    @SnakeSound222
    sure there are always good reasons to quit, too. but a time penalty won't harm you if you are playing well. it should punish mostely killers who are hosts but waiting for the "perfect group". and a progressive time penalty should not harm you, when quitting a game 1 or 2 times because of hackers. it is not about a total ban but only for a few minute penalty. For now 5 seconds buffer to create a new lobby is just way to little. see Masters post, he is the perfect example why penalties should be implemented

    Kill all?
    No, but when I know that I will struggle to get even a single kill, then nope, im not gonna bother going through such a game. I did that mistake a few time and learned my lesson

  • @Vancold said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @FrenziedRoach said:
    I'm gonna have to say no. They said it would never come back, and I would prefer they stick with what they said.

    Going back on it just sets a bad precedent and makes me wonder if I can trust their word again.

    I would be cool with them sticking to their word if so many people didn't hack Legacy and if their own ineptitude didn't cause hundreds of people to lose their earned Legacy. They gave it back to 72hrs.

    Why not everyone else that lost it? Seems unreasonable to me.

    streamer benefits, its a sad chapter

    Of course. Streamer benefits is the most shameful business practice any developer could do.

    The twitch shirt is cool. Literally doing special things for Streamers is not.

    I can only tell you that you shouldnt give the slightest [BAD WORD] about skins
    Just hope that they concentrate on balance.... dont disturb them because they cant even get the easiest stuff right =(

    Trust me I am more concerned about balance. But again, the art team and balance team are completely separate and don't interact much. Skins can be done at the same time as actual balancing.

    Funny that yuo say that, in the store I can see pitch black cloths, I wonder how this is affecting the balance,.....

    God forbid more incentives to play stealthy, amirite?

    There is a difference between playing stealthy and being invisible :wink:

  • My slugg build on huntress is kinda enjoyable against altruistic SWF, especially when they cant use their lightsabres and DS

  • @powerbats said:
    I refuse to camp since I feel that it just demeans what it means to be the killer and what the Entity is all about. That said I've been tempted to camp especially against svf groups or those who're so geared it's like a noob playing against pro's. As a then lvl 3 Trapper I went against 2 with 2 ultra very rare and 2 very rare perks, The other 2 had all 4 ultra very rare perks and all were highly leveled and experienced. They'd either body block me while attempting to hook, use the escape ability after 4 seconds or sabotage my hooks in less than 4 seconds in front of me.

    They weren't jerks and actually felt bad for me that matchmaking put me up against them like that. They did compliment me for my chases and the fact I got quite a few downs done and even a few hookings. Most killers are good about roaming while there's a core bunch that either gets 1 survivor and camps them or patrols just out of range and waits.

    They never do anything but that even when it's obvious the solo queue group isn't either well geared or experienced. They get their 4 sacrifices and then brag about how ez it was in post game chat when it doesn't take skill to camp. The really good killers when they realize it's an inexperienced/low geared group hunts and gets people and scores a hecka lot more points than the camper does.

    To me the entity feeds off the chase (more points for killers would induce less camping), the brutality of smacking the survivors (more blood spilled the better). It loves hooking them and hearing them scream, bashing gens thereby reducing their hard work and taking away their hope etc.

    I've had matches where as the killer I didn't ge sacrifices but got a great score and the entity was pleased because I was a brutal killer. I got lots of hooks and downs and lots of bleeding going on as well as chasing. That to me is what the entity wants along with the sacrifices.

    The whole game is basically against what it means to be a killer.
    An assymetrical game where a single survivor can loop you for the entire game, well, guess you chose wrong if you want to play the "powerrole"

    in Camping Comment by Master
  • @Soren said:
    We have a whole discord dedicated to her character and we discuss often about her cube and how Scarred Hand is crap. We all have different ideas, yet we're according on the fact that as the queen of map control, she SHOULD have a way higher teleport distance by default, and that her traps mechanics should be buffed during chase (camera lock, no-lunge duration, cooldown...).

    I think her teleport range is fine, but just up her movement speed by a little

    in The Hag Comment by Master
  • @JohnLöffel said:
    I played today a round with a doctor.
    They pallet looped me, teabagd and then i camped seens pretty earned.
    but then they began to bully me in the chat.
    Why are the survs so salty and why arent they get banned or some sort of other punishment

    Just adapt, logg into the next game and bully them harder than they can bully you (at least try to)

  • @Zavri said:
    They do ban for DCing, it has to be a ton though.

    I got hit for one back in march when I was trying to derank from 1 to 20. ( Queue times were insane )

    I doubt that you deranked in PTB from 1 to 20 :wink:

    What was the punishment though?

  • @weirdkid5 said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @FrenziedRoach said:
    I'm gonna have to say no. They said it would never come back, and I would prefer they stick with what they said.

    Going back on it just sets a bad precedent and makes me wonder if I can trust their word again.

    I would be cool with them sticking to their word if so many people didn't hack Legacy and if their own ineptitude didn't cause hundreds of people to lose their earned Legacy. They gave it back to 72hrs.

    Why not everyone else that lost it? Seems unreasonable to me.

    streamer benefits, its a sad chapter

    Of course. Streamer benefits is the most shameful business practice any developer could do.

    The twitch shirt is cool. Literally doing special things for Streamers is not.

    I can only tell you that you shouldnt give the slightest [BAD WORD] about skins
    Just hope that they concentrate on balance.... dont disturb them because they cant even get the easiest stuff right =(

    Trust me I am more concerned about balance. But again, the art team and balance team are completely separate and don't interact much. Skins can be done at the same time as actual balancing.

    Funny that yuo say that, in the store I can see pitch black cloths, I wonder how this is affecting the balance,.....

  • @weirdkid5 said:

    @TeambossFloze said:
    I had 3 people quit on my because I was playing Clown on the PTB - seriously...why are they even playing the PTB if they going to do that...

    "It's just the PTB. So it's ok to commit bannable offenses here."

    I dont think you can be banned in the PTB
    Also there are lots of bugs, you never know why they DCed, even though the reason will most likely cus nurse OP or sth^^

  • @weirdkid5 said:

    @Master said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @FrenziedRoach said:
    I'm gonna have to say no. They said it would never come back, and I would prefer they stick with what they said.

    Going back on it just sets a bad precedent and makes me wonder if I can trust their word again.

    I would be cool with them sticking to their word if so many people didn't hack Legacy and if their own ineptitude didn't cause hundreds of people to lose their earned Legacy. They gave it back to 72hrs.

    Why not everyone else that lost it? Seems unreasonable to me.

    streamer benefits, its a sad chapter

    Of course. Streamer benefits is the most shameful business practice any developer could do.

    The twitch shirt is cool. Literally doing special things for Streamers is not.

    I can only tell you that you shouldnt give the slightest ######### about skins
    Just hope that they concentrate on balance.... dont disturb them because they cant even get the easiest stuff right =(

  • Sounds like another survivor who bought a horror game and wants to turn it into sth else now
    Whats the point of the killer in an assymetrical game if he has no power at all compared to survivors?

  • @weirdkid5 said:

    @FrenziedRoach said:
    I'm gonna have to say no. They said it would never come back, and I would prefer they stick with what they said.

    Going back on it just sets a bad precedent and makes me wonder if I can trust their word again.

    I would be cool with them sticking to their word if so many people didn't hack Legacy and if their own ineptitude didn't cause hundreds of people to lose their earned Legacy. They gave it back to 72hrs.

    Why not everyone else that lost it? Seems unreasonable to me.

    streamer benefits, its a sad chapter

  • @Saint_Judas said:
    Well see, the thing about campers is... the easiest way to deal with a camper is to forget the survivor on the hook exists at all. As that guy on the hook (speaking from experience) it sucks, tremendously, but literally if that one guy doesn't struggle and just makes the camper wait him out the entire time it takes to sacrifice and all 3 of the others work on gens... by the time he gets the first person killed you will be more then halfway done and out. Genrushing punishes campers, if by the end he has 1-2 kills and you guys escape, he likely won't pip from that, and if you can manage to get him to only get 1 kill he will probably depip, which will serve him about right. So I dont think there should be any regression speed, because camping is a flawed strategy to start

    @Saint_Judas said:
    Well see, the thing about campers is... the easiest way to deal with a camper is to forget the survivor on the hook exists at all. As that guy on the hook (speaking from experience) it sucks, tremendously, but literally if that one guy doesn't struggle and just makes the camper wait him out the entire time it takes to sacrifice and all 3 of the others work on gens... by the time he gets the first person killed you will be more then halfway done and out. Genrushing punishes campers, if by the end he has 1-2 kills and you guys escape, he likely won't pip from that, and if you can manage to get him to only get 1 kill he will probably depip, which will serve him about right. So I dont think there should be any regression speed, because camping is a flawed strategy to start

    camping only works against "stupid" survivors that feed the killer yeah
    If survivors are clever and just do gens, then the killer will go out of the match with 1 kill and will depip GUARANTEED

  • @Outsidedarkness said:
    I play on ps4 and when the killer turns off the internet on thier end we loose all progress on our side. It is very hard to get to low rank because of this. The killer get no regression for this. Amother question is on campers we as survivers get birds so campers should jave regressed speed where we can get the players off the hook. 

    You dont loose progress on your side, you will gain all the BP you eanred during the match +5000 for the escape. A DCing killer will always give you a black pip, none of your progress is taken away

    The killer doesnt get any regression by DCing via internet loss, but suvivors dont do either.

    What do you mean with regressed speed?

  • They tried to do the last gen ofc, only rarely the last survivor held the game hostage, but it happened too

    Dont worry about all the survivors crying, they always do when they have to adapt because something was changed for the killers favour, you even hear some guys crying for a "small vacuum" again

  • @steezo_de said:

    @Zagrid said:
    To get all of the feng skins you would need to spend 59 dollars on auric cells

    Ya.. isn't that nuts? And you know with those flashy colors, you're going to get those players that really want to get your attention. They WILL buy it. Lol.

    They will buy a tunneling killer
    Anyone who destroys my immersion in a horror game will be removed from my games ASAP :wink:

  • @Dwight_Confusion said:
    If I were to take the massive amount of time it would require, and make a definitive perk list of what I thought things should get buffed... and add ons that need messed with...

    Would anyone really be into that? If I get some support I'll take the time and really put something special out. Let me know.

    Sure, communtiy always supports this kind of stuff. But dont think that the devs are gonna listen to you =(

  • @boogiewoogie said:

    Just take this shack for example…

    https://youtu.be/za1Smffi1RY

    Thank god, finally a good job

  • @Twix said:

    @weirdkid5 said:

    @Twix said:
    https://clips.twitch.tv/TolerantMoistArmadilloDansGame

    @ASpazNamedSteve
    Here it is again, it looks to be an issue when holding sprint like you said, which most of the time people do it without noticing, I hope it gets changed.

    This change is intentionally. Simply let go of shift, it isn't that hard. If you wanna stay same side, stand still and hit space. If you want to go to the other side, hold shift, run forward, and hit space when on the other side. You can't throw same side if you hold shift.

    It's as simple as lifting your pinky finger when hitting space. It's a part of the pallet changes that remove the vacuum from the game.

    It's not as simple as you think, because most of the time it is done unconsciously - your concentration is towards your surrounding and what the killer is doing that you simply forget that you're still holding down shift.

    Sounds like you have to adapt

  • @RSB said:
    Have you noticed something? There is no thread such as this. You know why?

    Because the killer is weak as hell. Even Wraith had his "Wraith OP, plz nerf" threads...

    Simply change the blur effect which does nothing into a blindness effect. Survivors have to ability to completely blind the killer and they are playing the weak role....

  • @Axlegolas said:
    This game REALLY needs a time penalty for dodging as host or leaving the game via disconnnect. the killers can choose their very own swf group, preferably with no items. most killers right now dodge groups or items instantly (sometimes if you are just Dwight or Claudette or with legacy skin). this is ridiculous.... those killers should get a time penalty. you are host, you want to kill, then stand your man! those cowards are annoying. this game, as other online competetive games, needs a time penalty for that. also the mimimi rage quits of killers AND swf is annoying, too. the depipp doesn't harm anyone but a time penalty will. the penalties could increase progressively. so first dodge starts with a penalty of 3min to a limit of 15min i think. disconnects should have a standard time penalty of 15min.

    Í would stand my man if this were a balanced game. But at the moment?`A squadette with flashlights and most likely 4 DS? Nah thanks, thats not why I play killer

    then there are also ping issues btw....

  • @MusicianDavid said:
    Before the PTB, the Evader Emblem seemed too hard to obtain. In the PTB, it feels like it's too easy. I think Lightbringer and Evader need to be made slightly harder to obtain but not much :)

    Thoughts?

    Agreed, you can double pip in the PTB even without tryharding,

  • @steezo_de said:
    Yeahh.. I was thinking about that. I'll just post the sum of all cosmetics for each character then and if you want to see a detailed listing of prices, you can click on the link.

    Trapper - 3055
    Wraith - 3555
    Hillbilly - 1675
    Nurse - 4820
    Hag - 2565
    Doctor - 4240
    Huntress - 3490
    Clown - 2330

    Dwight - 4725
    Meg Thomas - 4590
    Claudette (my cutie) - 4455
    Jake - 4779
    Nea - 3470
    Ace - 1512
    Feng - 5900
    David - 3794
    Kate - 2525

    I like the killer skins a lot (esp. Trapper and Doctor) as well as most of Claudette's. I know where a lot of my money is going. Haha.

    #########, didnt they say 500 aura cells = 5$ or am I wrong?

  • @Zavri said:

    @SaltyKiller said:
    It's fine. The perk still serves its purpose and stops them from vaulting that spot again. Realistically, what is a Survivor going to do once they know a spot is locked off? "Oh well, I guess I have to go somewhere else. I hope to god a pallet or another window is up ahead." And that's when Bloodlust kicks in.

    "i hope to god a pallet or another window is up ahead"

    Don't worry, there is a perk for that!

    Also, there is ALWAYS another pallet or window available, let's not kid ourselves here.

    Just break the pallet? :wink:

    in Bamboozle Comment by Master
  • Pallet can be thrown down if you are standing still

  • @weirdkid5 said:
    This video right here is the reason Killers hate you all so much. Excuse the language, especially at the end of the video:

    Worst Game In A Long Time

    For those not willing to watch the clip, I ended up winning this one. I made a few mistakes here and there as Killer as it has been a minute, but I just wanted this to be here to show how hypocritical Survivor mains really are. Keep in mind I AM A SURVIVOR MAIN.

    This is why Killers camp you. This is why Killers hate you. This is why they all call you a bunch of babies that have to have their hands held. Where is your sense of respect and honor? These guys had the gall to call me a tryhard, but seemed to be a full 4 stack, looped me, teabagged me, taunted me, disrespected me as a Killer at every opportunity, and then quit my game when they get bodied?

    This game is still hugely frustrating. You can see towards the end of the video how my screen is shaking, because I'm so angry my hand cannot stay still. These players continue to make playing Killer a living nightmare. The new pallet changes are good, there are several instances in this video where I manage to land hits I otherwise wouldn't have due to the removal of the vacuum.

    However the problem of looping is still ever so present. As you can see, pallet spawns are still absolutely ridiculous. At what point do you plan to make this game fun for the Killers, BHVR?

    Honestly, 30 seconds into the video I can tell you your mistake already.
    There is a twitchtv name in your lobby, if you dont feel like dodging him, then prepare for the most toxic, most frustrating game :wink:

    And then they didnt even have a single DS; imagine a DS/flashlight squad....

    Ingame, well if you follow the best looping survivor then you will lose 100%, everybody knows that the game isnt balanced. You only chance is to get the weak survivor in the team and tunnel him, maybe you can even bait one of the good loopers at the hook and get him like that

  • @Twix said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @Twix said:
    I was standing next to a pallet (not in the middle of it) killer lunges to hit me, I hit spacebar and the pallet doesn't drop.

    Depends on where you are standing near the pallet cause if you stand to close to the deadzone it won't work you have to be on either side of the pallet..

    I was in the other side of the pallet, I have over 500 hours in this game, you think I don't know how to throw down a pallet? lol

    Honestly, yes thats what I am believing
    Your 500 hours mean nothing because the pallet mechanic got just changed a few days ago
    If you cant provide footage about the "bug", well.....

  • Guess we got fooled again
    3 weeks of new streaming schedule and 2 times already not following the schedule, nice

  • I can tell you that the grind for cosmetics will be insane if they stick to the current progression

  • I am not aware of such a bug, provide some footage pls

  • @Slay___ said:
    https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/16/1698294337784879162/

    Never seen anyone complaining about disconnect ban on any of the forums (this or Steam), never seen any screenshots of disconnect bans either. But I guess they are punishing them.

    I still see lots of people disconnecting on first time being downed or hooked - or just before last hook.

    Noone is complaining because the DC rate is probably somewhere at 70-80% till they take action

  • @Runiver said:
    Camping is a legit reason to complain because it's quite unfun to be camped.
    Camping is also a legit strategy, and a necessary one, considering the recovering abilities of survivors that can get back to work under a very few seconds if left unchecked, leading to very one sided matches if you do not camp at times, unless the survivors are really slow and low ranks.

    Looping is a legit reason to complain because its quite unfun to be looped.
    Looping is also a legit strategy, and a necessary one, considering that most survivors dont know how to hide

    Its just sad, but I dont think that DBD will experience a major rework anytime, I had hopes for the 2.0 patch, but turned out that they forgot about mindgame pallets and sticked to the super safe ones instead

    in Camping Comment by Master
  • @THEPUMPKINSHAPE said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    @THEPUMPKINSHAPE said:
    Otherwise, I'm out and giving it a trash review as I leave.

    I put over 200 hours into the game and I'm [BAD WORD] sick and tired of getting my ass handed to me by noobs who ONLY win because they CHEAT. Where's the [BAD WORD] FUN in that?

    This man has seen one too many Squadettes.

    It just gets me when they say it's not cheating and that it's not a big deal and doesn't change the game enough to matter. Yet, it changes the game completely for me. If it doesn't matter, why not take it away? Whenever anyone suggests that, the skies open and blood rains down. But, when I call it cheating, 'It doesn't effect the game that much.'

    See the totally insane double standard?

    Just because it ticks you off doesn't mean it's cheating. Just because you have a specific perspective of what it is to cheat doesn't lend any more validity to calling this cheating.

    By exaggerating the problem, you're making yourself look less credible. Keep to calling it unbalanced and unintended, because at least that makes sense to people.

    And no one is even saying that SWF voice chat advantages aren't a big deal or not affecting the game... And you even flagged the other guy's post? Relax buddy. You need to take a chill pill. He's just disagreeing with your wording and reaction. He didn't kill your puppy.

    In the words of our dear Director Cote, you should play some Civ.

    Definition of cheating:
    Gaining an unfair advantage via 3rd party Programms
    Discord and ts is exactly that, it's just said that sad that devs allow it

    The correct term would be "accepted cheating" 
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