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@terumisan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095212#Comment_4095212
even in a stalemate there are still 4 survivors so if they all split and do 4 seperate gens jason loses unless he gets a down in 30 seconds since the survivors can still progress their objective
Thats true, but they rather do everything but play well and improve. So they will kick and scream that stuff that isn’t op is op.
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@Jonkler340 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095235#Comment_4095235
No, people just flock to the easiest thing. It was freddy right after the first rework, then ghoul, now jason. They'll just pay the $5 for easy wins. Put in a content creator on their winstreak and they'll hop on the bandwagon. It didnt work with vecna 2, nor hillbilly, because they are actually difficult to play, despte being probably better than jason.
Same thing happens on the survivor side. Lithe+finesse, old mom, coh, etc.
nah, i play jason because i’ve wanted him in the game since i started playing. Like majority of the people playing him right now. You can’t say this about jason. The most requested killer ever. You could about ghoul for sure, most of the playerbase never probably even heard of him. But jason, get your head out of the sand.
This entire topic is why im glad the devs ignore player feedback, its mostly brainrot.
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@Jonkler340 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095231#Comment_4095231
If this killer isnt braindead then what is he? Where other killers get punished for playing bad, this killer has forgiving mechanics and a low skill floor. If you miss your shots on huntress you have to stop at a locker, but jason replenishes his ranged attack mid chase with no slowdown. Cant let the ADHD kids get discouraged by risk/reward gameplay. If you have trouble finding survivors, just stay in the OE form. He may have a high skill ceiling but he also has a pretty low skill floor and probably the most forgiving ranged killer in the game.
slinger doesn’t have to do anything to reload, springtrap just summons his axe back mid chase. Guess they’re braindead.
OE form isn’t that strong it also has the strongest anti camp punishment in the game. It also has one of the strongest and easiest hard counters in the game just crouch.
Jason is b tier maybe b+ he isn’t even a tier and yall still refuse to learn.
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@Jonkler340 said:
Man i truly hate this degenerate killer. Devs saw that skillful gameplay is too hard for a licensed killer (Vecna 2) so they went back to making braindead p2ws with minimal cooldown.
this player base is cooked if they actually believe this.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095221#Comment_4095221
Who cares, it's like saying you didn't play old blight with compound… want a medal?
i didn’t play blight period.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095218#Comment_4095218
So you're literally saying he has stuff to nerf, exactly.
You just want an easy timei dont use deputies badge lol.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095215#Comment_4095215
I've been advocating for changes for not making a swift opinion on him until time settled, but playing against him casually for days on end, I'm at the point he has too many buffs and debuffs for a 12s cd and a ranged attack and gen regression.
If you can't have literacy for that, then I can't help youidk other than deputy badge i think he’s fine. I’ve escaped him more than he’s killed me. But i also play him too so i guess i know his weaknesses and strengths pretty well.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095212#Comment_4095212
Why isn't everyone playing those then LMAO
No answer? Shut up.because they weren’t the most requested killer for 10 years? Hello? And you say we’re not self aware.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095207#Comment_4095207
I don't agree sorry, he is the problem, his kit is overloaded (buffs and debuffs, information, ranged attack and mobility galore) and people need to stop being in denial over it.
I'm so bored of the community not being self-aware.self aware really? You guys need to stop being in denial about how omnipresent evil is worse than, wraiths uncloak, and dracula’s batform. It’s only better than spirit’s phase. None of you know what a stalemate is apparently and are just bad at the game.
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@random1543 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095189#Comment_4095189
People can do gens and totems for 12 seconds before he leaves chase with the person that took the chase because they are leaving the prime area, Ruin regresses all progress, progress on totems lost unless you stay on it in which case he will know you are their he will chase you for the 12 seconds before returning to OE making sure nobody is touching any of his prime objects with no way to tell how he is pathing around. its not a stalemate its Jason slowly and slowly grinding to a win by OE spamming.
Other killers can utilize thrill builds, but no other killers has this issue as they all have visual or audio ques that they are nearby (wraith, Spirt, Drac bat from, henry underground mode) or have set spawn points if they do not have normal pathing (dredge, spring trap onryo)
Trap killers who I think are more commonly associated with thrill builds can also be heard and traps can be disabled, causing them to have to set up again (singu, Trapper, Hag)once again ruin is the problem here, and guess what ruin is a bigger problem on other killers too. Its almost like we shouldn’t be nerfing killers when busted perk combos are the problem.
Ftp + buckle up was a problem and it was killed.
So should ruin + thrill
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@Chomperka said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095181#Comment_4095181
i dont get your argument lol, yeah if everyone crouch and aren't doing gens he can just go out of his power and look for them
then he’s not in power and people can do gens? Maybe you should ponder it a little harder.
If everyone is crouch teching jasons power, jason isn’t chasing/downing/hooking anyone. Neither jason nor the survivors are progressing the game, that is what we call a stalemate.
If jason isn’t in power, survivors will hear him like any other killer. So what exactly is the problem?
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@GroovieAshes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095180#Comment_4095180
Daculas bat borm you can see coming, that means the average survivor will still stay on gen. I understand that someone should take the aggro by staying on gen but, if you have a guy hooked, a guy saving, and injured survivors… in solo, most likely he just pulled EVEYONE off gens, they are regressing to Ruin and nobody knows where he's going even the guy on the hook, Comms does nothing.
again you see what the problem is, its ruin.
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@Chomperka said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095177#Comment_4095177
jason already has ton of information and mobility in his basekit, imagine how much time you win if survivors crouch between generators or even not doing them to hide.
you win exactly no time because the survivors are hiding and you’re in power and can’t see them. That is what we call a stalemate. He doesn’t get a chase and survivors do not complete gens.
I’ll go further and say survivors who just try to crouch his power and jasons that stay in power are both bad players who don’t know what they’re doing.
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@GroovieAshes said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4095176#Comment_4095176
It's not the spawn locations. It's the unlimimted timer that allows him to always find an advantageous target and if he can't, just return to the hook. There is no decision to make with OE because it's unlimited.
once again his unlimited timer isn’t a problem. No ones complaining about dracula’s far superior bat form. The problem is the majority of survivors think “ counter play is crouch” when it is only partially true.
Me and my duo haven’t lost to a jason in days, because we know that someone has to be bait so you set your self up in an advantageous position. Then you just dodge him like you would any other ranged killer. He is like dracula in that he can’t flick his spear like his ranged counterparts.
Jason is b to high b tier. Hens is just one of the best killer players using a busted perk combo.
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@Chomperka said:
tbh only thing i dont understand is why does game spawn broken pallets as teleport location from him, i do not remember lockers number being increased if dredge is in a match, and lockers are already far worse spawn. Thats just unfair.
Everything else is fine, it takes some time to wind up spear, eventually survivors will start playing around it. Deputy badge is actually mid and most overrated addon ever, every experienced surv knows how to hit those skill checks. Only problematic thing with it is that there are way too much spawn locations right next to generator which guarantees hit unless survivor has sprint burst
Okay limit locations he can spawn from but in return completely remove the crouch counterplay.
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jason is fine, the only change needed to him is deputy badge. thril and ruin need changes though.
I swear if you just crouch the entire time its no wonder you guys are losing to him. Omnipresent evil is more than fine especially considering he cant even damage you coming out of it like wraith or spirit.
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@EdenFinite said:
Yeah survivors having the ability to just portal away or go invisible while killer gets borderline nothing is not fun, which should've been obvious to the devs.
you mean the devs who don’t play their own game.
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well said just wish bhvr actually cared instead of just pretending to care and taking us for granted. The speak during the anniversary stream how it is all about us the players and yet this is how they treat us.
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my queue times during the event has not been longer than 30 seconds, heck the majority of it has been around 4 - 11 seconds. Im on na east. Now if we’re talking regular none event ya the queue times are long.
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its a terrible mechanic tbh and i can’t believe there are people who think it would balance anything.
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@Smoe said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4094410#Comment_4094410
https://x.com/spencerink/status/2067577325529485713
Behind the scene video in question. People legitimately confusing bad cgi and stock animations for ai.
thank you for finding this.
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@Slurp_Ramen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4094419#Comment_4094419
I HIGHLY doubt they did an entire 180, when people invest in Ai they’re locked in till it kills them.
These kinda people who use gen ai the way they do, never actually quit they just get better at hiding it.
You’re so wrong and you don’t even understand why or how they used it. Again it was them trying to be meta about a song they made.
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@Slurp_Ramen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4094415#Comment_4094415
”just because they cheated in the past, doesn’t mean they’ll cheat again”
again, it was for their matrix song, and the whole ai thing was about them being replaced. Stop talking about stuff you don’t even know about. Ignorance is not bliss when it makes you look like a fool.
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@Slurp_Ramen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4094408#Comment_4094408
oh really it’s misinformation?
So them using Gen Ai 11 or so months ago to advertise they’re crappy band was just a hoax then?
that was for their matrix song and them trying to be meta, which was a one time thing,
@GentlemanFridge said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4094408#Comment_4094408
Oh, really? I'd love a link to that, if you have it.
Would help immensely with combatting the misinfo.
it was posted on twitter, but i don’t have an account so I can’t find it despite my attempt too sorry. If you have a twitter account try there.
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@Slurp_Ramen said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/K7CV4LS1HL66/img-2546.jpeg
So we’re just gonna pretend like I.N.K. Didn’t happen? Ok!
They’re Actually just laughing at us.
it was cgi there was even a behind the scenes on how they made the video. Quit spreading misinformation.
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nemy is my main because he is the entire reason i bought this game. I always overlooked dbd but when that first re chapter came out and i learned i could play as nemy it was an instant purchase.
I love you nemy.
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@UnicornMedal said:
Why would Survivor play? The most aggressive Killers are in the event queue and the only thing that's fundamentally different is putting food on a table. 🤣
thats the biggest load of dung i’ve seen.
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@TropesDaMan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093384#Comment_4093384
as a killer main, i have to say if someone thinks this mode is unplayable…thats a lie. its playable you just have to put more effort in to get a win.
Idk your post reads as someone who is pretending to be a killer main and maybe plays a killer match every now and again. Even as a 50/50 player who has a pretty high kill rate even amongst killers i don’t main and over 9k hours in the game. This mode is uber busted in survivor favor and not worth loading up for as killer.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093901#Comment_4093901
Honestly it's just going to make survivors resent you, there is no reason not to when you get like umpteen in return.
that's an awful attitude.if you played my killer matches you wouldn’t honestly care if they resent you. This event sucks and i’m not boosting their bp while they abuse this busted event to prevent me from getting any myself.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093908#Comment_4093908
I just tried it and its fixed, but the cakes are still hard set at specific levels, they just increased the amount of levels that it comes in at. If you do 50 levels for a whole prestige, you will get 27 cakes every single time.
it isn’t fixed because the torte is still very rare so bulk spending more often than not will just not get them. I’ve prestieged jason 4 times manually since this fix and i’ve recieved 66 tortes. That is only 10 more than I would have got an hour ago.
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its because the torte is still very rare. L bhvr. Switch it to common and increase the rate even more.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093882#Comment_4093882
Like I get that, but that's kind of hurting yourself in the long run, they just fixed it supposedly and you get more cakes for bringing them.
Don't take it out on the other players lmfaothey didn’t fix it tortes are still very rare so bulk spending is still a no go. and after manually spending 2 prestiges on jason i got 34 cakes instead of 28 big whoop. Yes i restarted my game.
I’m not taking it out on the players because i will use them in the regular mode. But in event mode? No its survivor pudding.
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remove the group heal, invisibility and invincibility and i’m okay with the event.
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idk i see people say killer is easy during this mode, or you have to try to win and im going to be honest if you say this, you’re not a killer main, heck you probably don’t even play both sides.
This event atleast for me in my mmr a mode where i just get absolutely screwed by body blocking and group wide heals. Atleast half my matches have 1 person dedicated to the dinner table for heals while the others gen rush and/or bully.
It usually goes 1 person on the table, 1 person on gens and the other two prevent me from doing anything about the other too because if i down the person on gens and try to hook the other two take hits, body block and sabo. In which case the person i was trying to hook wiggles free and while im in the stun animation the person drops the fourth plate and all 3 of the others get healed in full. Or i go for the glorified waiter and the person on gens becomes the new waiter.
Either way the result is the same even if i manage to down them that free group heal is the bane of my existence.
If anyone just says “killer main whining” look at my post history, i’m usually accused of being a survivor main. Even though i’m a 50/50 soloq player. Especially now with play while you wait im more 50/50 than ever.
This event is so survivor sided i feel like from atleast my experience this is a hey killer go sit in the corner while we farm bp mode than anything. The majority of my matches during the event have been like this and i’m a player who has a kill rate higher than 60% with my mains being 78% and up without needing to tunnel camp or slug.
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@HexSlugged said:
i love celebrating the 10th aniversary with matches that have a single cake offering.
even if they fix it, i’m not bringing any when I play killer. I will when I play survivor but this event is so bad. As someone who plays both sides, i understand that most events are killer sided but this event is more along the lines of hey killer go sit in the corner while survivors bp farm mode.
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@Skittlesthehusky said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093786#Comment_4093786
with regulation. for example, we have federal laws here that ban non-natives from selling crafts as native unless they're affiliated/enrolled or are an artisan. essentially, an actual tribe recognized by the government has to back the seller in order for their product to be on the market
most regalia is sold by actual natives, and people who often purchase it are either native themselves or are non-natives who are supporting the reservation that the artisan is from.
in canada, such things does not exist (as far as im aware) and i think that's where the gap in the bridge begins.
canada does not have these same regulations unfortunately. Many of us still can barely get help with access to clean drinking water and lets not forget the residential school scandal up until 1998 which was a cultural genocide.
Further with bhvr being located in quebec which is notorious for their bigotry it does not surprise me at all that bhvr despite all their pro lgbtq+ stances would then step on us too to make a dollar.
Canada needs an native arts and crafts act. It is in an unfortunate truth that no one cares about our people. Which has been made especially apparent on these forums.
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@Equinox_One said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093783#Comment_4093783
You absolutely have and will.
Remember the Unknown discourse? David discourse? Trickster discourse? Houndmaster? Krasue? Hell, I remember the whole 'Tapp is bad because he's a cop and therefore racist' discourse, because time is a flat circle.
Also…did you seriously just play the 'if you don't want to be called a bigot, you're a bigot' card?
Nobody is attacking you, unless you're saying that you've above criticism for being 'marginalized'. I'm pointing out that this sort of pettiness and wokescolding is the biggest own goal possible, and eventually you'll probably win - and lose.
no i don’t remember the discourse for those things. I tend to stay out of topics i have zero knowledge on especially when it comes to other peoples cultures. Speaking on things i have no knowledge about is ignorance.
@HexSlugged said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093770#Comment_4093770
But native regalia is in fact sold all over the place in the usa. Im not sure about canada but in the usa regalia is not uncommon to be sold in stores in areas connected to natives.
So it seems that your attitude is not held by all other peoples, so probably hard to hold bhvr to that standard.
you’re correct to a degree. however those are not the same. This isn’t about jim buying a random regalia sold in shop that has no connection to anyones bloodline or ancestors. Shanes is or would be however. We would never sell our own personal regalia, it is deeply personal and sacred.
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@Equinox_One said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093767#Comment_4093767
This is somehow both wokescolding and tone policing. I'm honestly kind of impressed, and well on my way to a Bingo.
If you want BHVR to just stay in their lane, be as passively progressive as possible and never take a chance on representing anything cultural because they'll be bombarded with petty nitpicks and painted as bigots again - keep right on at it.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093765#Comment_4093765
- You're not fighting against progress. You're actively discouraging anyone from even trying, because the goalposts will always shift.
- Twitter does not exist anymore, but yes - this is the exact sort of mouse/cookie problem that I'm describing.
- You are doing literally all of the rest.
- Did you just compare me pointing out that you're impossible to please with actual, IRL profiteering?
If all of us deserve equal representation, then all of us deserve to have our best efforts treated with charity and not spat on because 'well you're still capitalists'.
Again, we're living in the worst timeline and, frankly, stuff like this is why. Progressive communities operating on Highlander rules.
no one called them bigots. It is okay that they didn’t understand a lot of people do not. We only seek that they correct this error and remove the auric cell option of purchase. You do not understand the significance of the regalia and clearly have not even done a basic search about it.
You rather attack us a marginalized people for speaking out, maybe you are a bigot, since you’re so truly worried about being perceived as one.
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@Equinox_One said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093754#Comment_4093754
Companies are people.
BHVR need to make a profit to keep this game up. And demanding that anything of any sort of cultural significance to anyone not be sold is unreasonable and patently ridiculous. All you're doing is moving the goalposts and berating a company who is doing just about anything right - and eventually, they're going to stop trying.
And then you'll complain about that instead.
This is why we can't have nice things.
no goal posts are being moved.
The problem here is only with the regalia and as i’ve said it never should’ve had an auric cell option, they should’ve used one of his other non auric cell exclusive cosmetics to take its place.
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@Brokenbones said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093578#Comment_4093578
I think your concern is valid honestly but this post in particular irks me because…
People ask to be represented in the game right, the same way as anyone else? That means the content is treated the same as anyone else I.E the same way to get it, the same methods of purchase and so on. I guarantee you if Shane had released and the content you're taking issue with was excluded, people would've been upset, angry and so on
Something to the effect of "It's not real representation, BHVR was just being lazy". I don't believe you would have but some certainly would have. Or at the minimum asked for it.
Plus, you act like BHVR never gives back to communities when history shows they do. The donations to LGBT+ communities, the portion of profit from Orela's cosmetics was donated. So you're not wrong in saying they COULD do something like that but to act like they don't is a bit unfair imo
Not trying to be a BHVR defense force guy tho, criticise them to your hearts content if you ask me.
you don’t understand and likely never will, but regalia is something that should never and i do mean never be sold for profit, it never should’ve had an auric cell option, shane could’ve had some of his other cosmetics take the auric cell purchase point instead.
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@Equinox_One said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093578#Comment_4093578
Outside of literally disbanding their company or giving everything away for free, what exactly could they be doing better?
BHVR are probably THE most progressive company out there. I hate it that all they get is wokescolding and I'm honestly surprised at times that they bother trying.
this isn’t wokescolding. Our regalia is not for sale, sell other cosmetics but regalia should never ever be sold for profit and you trying to call this wokescolding is incredibly tonedeaf and disgusting.
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@IronKnight55 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093755#Comment_4093755
May I ask why it’s such a big deal? I’m just curious, and I don’t mean to come across as rude or anything.
Just going to be quick here i won’t give you a full run down of why when google exists. However regalia is deeply sacred, in fact it is so personalized that no one other than the owner is even allowed to touch it without permission. There is a spiritual aspect as well as it being worn during dance as a form of prayer. There is way more too it than that, if you really want to know more i do suggest you look into it. I just am not the best at explaining these things.
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@IronKnight55 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093747#Comment_4093747
It will be available for shards in about a month or so. I'm not going to comment on whether it's right or not since I’m not part of that group, just letting you know.
its not about it being sold a month or now for iri shards. It should not have had an auric cell option point blank period. As a native i would’ve rather they left his regalia out entirely instead of ever making profit off of it.
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@Xendritch said:
It's so over if we get stuck on the idea that "progressivism is when nobody sees the fruit of their labor" like that feels more performative to me because there's no utility only signaling.
Real life is not twitter people actually need to make rent.
think of the corporations people! Screw that some things should not be used for profit post.
Seriously the regalia should’ve been an iri shard only cosmetic with no auric cell option. Other cosmetics that were release could’ve and should’ve been used in its place.
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maybe its because i don’t bother with the counter play, since if everyone is doing it the game stalemates. but I like playing against jason, i don’t get the boring complaints. maybe jason shouldn’t be able to hold his power forever, but it could be too that survivors shouldn’t get to be hidden for that long either.
Jason isn’t the problem imo, its my teammates who default to must crouch avoid chase at all cost even if i haven’t been hooked yet and do nothing all match because jason is in power.
Take risks stop being afraid unless you’re on death hook. Split gens he can only chase one person at a time.
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as a native tc is right, maybe they should’ve used another cosmetic as the auric cell purchase instead of the regalia but of course this community wouldn’t understand how wrong this is. Screw marginalized people think of the corporation!
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jason doesn’t need any nerfs or changes. He is in a good spot. He isn’t krasue, ghoul, blight, nurse or even dracula levels of strong.
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@MilkToast said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4089824#Comment_4089824
Given the scummy history of this group y'know it was manual takedowns and they're using automated system as the scapegoat.
I know at least on YouTube if you copyright someone's video you take their money they made from the video or stream. This is probably a predatory tactic from ice nine to earn money
it’s their management company they’ve done the same with other bands it was worse what they did to sleep token fans, striking them for fan art and tattoo’s. Rico management is to blame here not ice nine kills.
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@cogsturning said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4088746#Comment_4088746
OR remove killer info from lobby so they cant see oppenents but i know thats unpolular take.
I want this too but not just killers lobby shopping, but other survivors too. The system needs to be good though. There should be a near zero chance of matching a 5k hour with a 100 hour.
They could go with some sort of visible rank, like the old rank system, or like how prestige was once visible (but, like, something that means something instead) so you can at least see what you're in for, but without browsing Steam profiles.
I believe they could backfill properly though. There's always a lot of people on and only so many brackets. I recently got matched to someone with less than 50 hours. I was shocked and even messaged him to be sure it was accurate. Every once in awhile I get people who should be below the soft cap. No functional system should allow that.
as long as that playtime isn’t dictated by platform and is by actual account stats. Since you know playstation could say you have 7k hours but on steam you’re that 100 hour player. Playing with a console to pc friend has taught me not to judge profile playtime.
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honestly losing 2 - 3 gens early has always been a thing. Efficient survivors have always split gens. It used to be worse when survivors were always split up at the start.
however I notice when i play survivor gens never get done though matchmaking stacks the deck for me to lose, always getting survivors who will do gens but can’t last in chase, survivors who do nothing but edge map and walk around, or the allergic to gens, linger for saves and usually throw the match.Honestly the problem is this games matchmaking, i feel you’re either stomping or getting stomped in this game. the very close hard fought edge of your teeth games are very rare even though i wish they weren’t.