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@Catzilla said:
Currently playing through Village, its amazing. And yes, I would love for it to be her, she’s much more interesting than Myers wannabe Mr. X or Rawr run away me Hulk Nemesis. I doubt it will be her though.
Why do people compare Mr. X to Myers?
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@Sup3rCatTree said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2170073#Comment_2170073
According to the RE Wiki "Though his role essentially similar within Resident Evil 3: Nemesis, there's a noticeable change on this character: First of all, he depicted standing roughly 9 feet tall.". Where did you get that information? Also, you know you can minimize a picture right?
Nemesis' height varies wildly from game to game. In his original appearance he was only a couple of inches taller than one of the playable characters, and the main character, a woman of probably average height, comes up to around breast level when standing in front of him. He was no bigger than the Trapper in his original appearance and kept getting bigger and bigger in later appearances, such as fighting game crossovers and the remake.
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The real issue with indoor maps isn't generators but the fact that the indoor maps have unique loops and tiles while outdoor maps are largely standardized outside of the main building. This means you can play and you'll get better on outdoor maps, but with indoor maps you'll rarely get sent to each one and will die too quickly to learn anything. I'm pretty sure the only people who know how to loop on indoor maps are people who screwed around in the map with a friend. Solo players aren't even allowed to try that.
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I'd give Nemesis the rocket launcher but make it like the Plague's corrupt purge, not something he can pull out willy nilly. And it would be hard to land hits with it, and maybe only oneshot if it's a direct hit. It wouldn't be the primary power either way, that would be the tentacle and probably an infection mechanic to go with it.
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@D3spair said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2167266#Comment_2167266
Isn't Freddy and Ghost face supposed to be loudmouth mofo and Pyramid Head in Silent Hill 2 used only his Knife that one time but used a spear 80% of the Game?
DBD interpretation of Killers changes.
Yeah, but with Pyramid Head the knife is what became iconic and people who hadn't actually played Silent Hill 2 didn't know about the spear. With Nemesis the rocket launcher remained iconic throughout to the point where he still has it in the fighting games even though he's mostly a melee character there.
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I wouldn't call Mr. X classic. The one in the remake is essentially a different character from the original, from appearance to gameplay function to even the story, and nobody cares about the original guy from 1998. Even Jack Baker feels more classic to me, at least he's had a few years to stew. If I had to choose a classic character that wasn't Nemesis I'd go for Birkin or the RE1 Tyrant or even Lisa Trevor.
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@D3spair said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165426#Comment_2165426
Who says Nemesis = Rocket Launcher ?
RE3 Remake Nemesis just uses Tentacles and Runs super fast and gives zombies parasites so he's scary enough even without weapons.
Nemesis has a rocket launcher in every single one of his appearances, even if the frequency with which he uses it varies. It's his most iconic weapon along with the tentacle.
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@DemonDaddy said:
What headache? Almost every enemy in re results in a creature boss fight. If size restrictions are a factor, it will have to be someone that doesn't become a hunkering beast. The only bad guy I can think of that remains even close to human size after transformation is wesker.
Just personally if the killer is just a human form (not vary representational of re) it might be the first time I skip on a killer just for the Survivors
The headache of BHVR animating a creature that runs on four legs and has to someone transport people to hooks like this. The nightmare of making it work in gameplay. They could barely make the Twins work and the chapter came out a mess because of it.
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@xmenfanatic said:
I hope for a killer from RE 8: Village. Jack and his family are cool but not distinct enough IMO. I guess they would give the game a hillbilly family vibe it they did a legion thing and did all the members! :D I'd dig that.
Nemesis and Mister X are not gonna fit as well as people wish though. The size reduction would make them all feel odd.
Nemesis was like two inches taller than Carlos in the original RE3. He can't have been any larger than Trapper. But he became an icon and people forgot that being smaller than previous Tyrants was the point, it made him more dangerous, not less. So then later appearances make him a giant because they feel that since he's the biggest deal he has to be, well, the biggest.
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@DemonDaddy said:
Doesn't have to be humanoid, plenty of creatures to chose from.
BHVR doesn't want to go through the headache of that. We wouldn't have even got Demogorgon if not for the money, but with Resident Evil there's no strict need to go for a creature like the Licker.
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@Dabihwow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2167200#Comment_2167200
I got a challenge for you... give me a reason to believe that Nemesis would work in DBD without saying the word iconic, or saying that people really want him.
He has a wide variety of powers which allows them to do whatever they want with him while still feeling true to the character, while also producing a powerset that feels like it belongs exclusively to that character and couldn't be done with any other license or even as an original character. With someone like Jack they'd have to make up a new power wholesale and say that Mold did it, but at that point it no longer feels like Jack, because that's not how he acted or felt in his original game. In his original game Jack is noteworthy for searching for you in the house and killing you in rather conventional ways. His only real power was being invincible but that's true of everyone in DbD. Nemesis has had so many appearances that there are probably at least half a dozen clear powers they could go with, and if they kept it to the original you'd still have 2 or 3. And Nemesis has just enough personality to be conveyed in DbD without watering that personality down.
You could make Jack work, gameplay wise, but it wouldn't feel anything like the Jack from RE7, and he wouldn't have the personality either because BHVR is very stingy on speech.
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@QwQw said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2167129#Comment_2167129
Truth be told, it is beginning to wear on me a little that the primary reason I see people say they want Mr. X/Nemesis isn't because of their lore or overall character, but rather that they're "iconic".
People want Nemesis because he's iconic. People want Mr. X because of memes. If this DLC were coming out 3 years ago there would be more people suggesting Alexia Ashford or James Marcus as the killer than Mr. X.
People want Jack Baker because he's a good character, but being a good character doesn't necessarily make one a good playable character in DbD.
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I want a Grey alien.
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@Dabihwow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163816#Comment_2163816
So what I'm getting is that a game... the first RE game that I ever touched... that helped me paint the whole franchise... in a new light... that I thought was a stereotypical/overdone and overused zombie apocalypse series... doesn't deserve to be in DBD because... it's just... one game... I'm sorry but RE7 helped bring back what a ######### show it became since 5, and 6. I think all of the mainstream games of RE should get represented because it's not fair to just include the classics it's like giving a middle finger for not existing 20 years ago. I'm sorry but I have been slightly grinding my teeth while typing this, its not fair for everyone
I actually agree with your view on 7, I'd rather play it than 5, 6, or even 4, and think it was a return to form. But being hunted by a corrupted family in Louisiana for one game just isn't iconic to the series. People associate RE with zombie outbreaks and laboratories. Jack would not be recognizably a Resident Evil villain. And the other elements of the game are even less deserving of representation - the Baker house is good but it has nothing on the mansion from the first game or any part of Raccoon City, and Ethan literally has no face as far as Capcom is concerned.
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@Jarol said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163763#Comment_2163763
What I can think of this: The Silent Hill chapter brought us a mix, the Midwich map belongs to Silent Hill 1, The killer belongs to Silent Hill 2 and the survivor to Silent Hill 3 (I'm not sure what I'm saying since I know very little about Silent Hill and the truth is that saga scares me).
Looking at the cover, I'm sure you can do the same 2 times in a row, The map may come from the first Resident Evil game, The killer may be Mr. X, The survivor may be Jill Valentine. But this I do not think fits perfectly and perhaps they seek to deceive us.
But I am sure that the survivor (s) can be members of S.T.A.R.S, a woman and a man and from there they can get many legendary skins like Claire, Leon, Ada, Ethan, Alice, etc.
The killer, I still hope that this is the first chapter to bring us at once, 2 killers.
There will never be two killers in one chapter, BHVR can barely release one without breaking the game. Two survivors, one male, one female is highly likely and BHVR would be throwing away so much money if they didn't. Leon would be guaranteed as the male survivor as he prints money and since Nemesis is more likely than Mr. X it will give RE2 fans something to work with, as well as RE4 fans, which aren't likely to get anything else out of the chapter. The female survivor could be Claire, which would likely, under the Silent Hill methodology, mean that the mansion from the first game would be the map. But if I were BHVR I'd choose Leon and Jill, because they're the most iconic protagonists and Jill is arguably the face of the early Survival Horror games while Leon is the face of the 4-6 action era. It would also give fans of both the RE1 and RE2 duos one character each, and it would be the first time Leon and Jill ever meet.
@Dabihwow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163785#Comment_2163785
Maybe each one from a different timeline. Now say Mr. X from the old games, and have someone like Jack Baker, Dimetrescu, or Heisenberg be the other killer for fans of the current timeline, a nice balance for everyone.
I think it's still the same timeline, the first person games just don't have anything to do with the old games outside of the presence of Chris Redfield. I'd actually argue that Mr. X should count as a new character at this point because nobody really cared about him until two years ago and the hardcore, 20+ year RE2 fanboys probably care more about Birkin. Even Jack Baker feels like an older character to me than the version of Mr. X that everybody loves.
I think it's unlikely that the newer, first person era of Resident Evil will get any representation simply because it's one single game (Village doesn't count, being far from release when BHVR started working on this DLC). If Village had already released last year to massive acclaim, then sure, that would be fair. But as it stands when people think of Resident Evil they think more of the old classic survival horror games or the action games, not a single first person game from half a decade ago.
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@Dabihwow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163777#Comment_2163777
Well, it's just, I hate to say it I am... one of those people that don't really want Nemesis in DBD. Now it's not that I don't think he is iconic, it's just mind-boggling, to see a monster like Nemesis be stopped by... well anything in this game, pallets, flashlights, all of it. Mr. X seems a bit more logical, but my personal favorite that would make me ######### my pants real hard... is if we got Jack Baker as well. RE 7 was my first ever RE game that I ever got and it wouldn't feel right to only just include the old-time stuff, it should be a mix for everyone.
Jack Baker was a great character for RE7, but he just wouldn't fit in DbD. Too much like an original BHVR killer, just a man, no powers beyond the usual strength and endurance, and his personality wouldn't fully shine through since he wouldn't talk. He's also not iconic and is only recognizable and beloved to RE7 fans.
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@Dabihwow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163764#Comment_2163764
Oh boy is bad for me to be absolutely concerned if is going to be nemesis?
Concerned?
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I think if it's hinting at anything, it's Nemesis and the original RE3 boxart. They did promise us "impressive stars that will blow your minds" on New Years Eve, and that doesn't suggest RE8. Unless they chose Chris as the RE8 representative instead of Ethan. That would kind of work.
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I can't see them using the DLC to shill some minor antagonists from an unreleased game, characters that may not have even been revealed to the public by the time the collaboration deal with Capcom had been made. They could definitely have some interesting gameplay though, moreso than Mr. X.
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If Nemesis gets his rocket launcher it will be treated like Myers in Tier 3, Oni powered-up, Plague when she has corrupt purge. It wouldn't be the core power.
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I doubt it's a hint at anything, but if it was, my guess would be a Nemesis tentacle, as he is by far the most likely killer choice.
Edit: I also see someone posted the RE3 boxart, and I definitely see the resemblance.
@Sonzaishinai said:
I don't know, the 5 does look rather special but if it's actually a hint or just a red herring i'm not sure.
I am also kinda curious about the zombie ( i think it's a zombie anyway) and the zombie noises from the teaser.
is it just to show hey it's RE or will it actually be something relevant in game
I'm of the opinion that the teaser video has absolutely zero real hints for the actual contents of the chapter and that the video only exists to confirm that the chapter is Resident Evil.
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This seems like the Freddy nerf back in 2017 that was clearly intended to just put a lid on him so the complaints would stop.
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@MongolPSR said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2159281#Comment_2159281
I think BHVR needs to get over their monster affliction. seriously they are leaving to many famous horror icons on the table by being against monsters
I think it has more to do with programming than anything else.
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@MongolPSR said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2159253#Comment_2159253
I think we are more likely a licker than Birkin or Mr.X.
The licker is iconic enough and would make a great, unique killer, but BHVR doesn't like doing monsters and made an exception for Demogorgon because of the money. They don't need the Licker when they can use a bunch of other, humanoid characters. Licker would be even harder than Demogorgon in that it walks on four legs.
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If BHVR wants a werewolf killer they'd get an iconic one or more likely, make one themselves. Same with vampires and Dracula.
@HealsBadMan said:
No way. He's not even one of the main baddies of the game (like Mother Miranda or Lady Dimetrescu), not to mention this is RE's 25th anniversary. The most likely candidate is a classic RE villan like Nemesis or Mr. X.
Mr. X is barely classic, in that he didn't have any fans until 2 years ago. Birkin would be a better classic choice even if he doesn't have the memelord audience.
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There are literally dozens of horror game licenses I would list before Outlast. Even Amnesia, which Outlast clearly built itself upon. Decent game though.
@ZoomZoomKaWaow said:
Neither Outlast nor Amnesia were anywhere near good enough to be put on a pedestal next to Silent Hill and RE. Both were good games, but they didn't become the foundation for horror games. Fatal Frame is the last of the holy horror trinity, and there's no way in hell that DBD should get to piggyback off yet another IP since they suck at original concepts
I'd argue Amnesia deserves some credit for knocking the industry out of the "action horror" stupor it had fallen into since RE4. RE7 probably wouldn't even be in first person and lower on the action scale without Amnesia. The reason Amnesia stood out so much, beyond how much Frictional was able to do with so small a budget, was that it released in a time in which "horror game" meant "the enemies look spooky, but you still shoot them all dead as they pop out, pick up the coins they drop, and buy a rocket launcher with them".
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For me, the biggest disappointment wouldn't be Dimitrescu but instead if the whole chapter is a shill-job for the upcoming RE4 remake.
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If they do a standard Tyrant, whether it be the RE1 one with the claw or Mr. X, you're looking at a killer with some sort of lunge attack and probably wall-smashing, pallet breaking elements like what you'd expect of any really big killer. The only way to really surprise people is if Mr. X has to chase you into zombies like a Hag chases you into traps. That would emulate how he plays in the RE2 remake.
If they really wanted permanent mutation powers the better choice would be Birkin.
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@Buckoben said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2156827#Comment_2156827
I have a feeling the killer will actually be The Tyrant from RE:1 (even matches the naming convention).
Just to add to the speculation If it was The Tyrant, the amount of cosmetics they could make is high as there is basically a tyrant (or something like one) in every RE game.
That's true, but I hope you're wrong. If you can slot 5 different legendary skins on a killer and have them all fit, it means you have a very generic killer whose power lacks personality. Even if they did go for a generic Tyrant though they'd probably choose the RE2 one because he's far more popular since two years ago. The RE1 Tyrant would end up being the skin.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2156767#Comment_2156767
No, it would not. Nobody wants a regular tyrant anyway except maybe me. Mr X and Nemesis are way more popular.
Mr. X is basically a regular tyrant, just a finished, mass-produced one.
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@danielmaster87 said:
I would. It's not honoring the franchise to include a bad guy from RE7 or RE8 because that's just bandwagoning and trying to seem hip with what's popular right now. There are tons of characters more deserving than someone like her.
I doubt Dimitrescu had even been shown off to the public, and thus became famous, by the time they made this deal with Capcom. Using her wouldn't be bandwagoning - it would be shilling. Bandwagoning would be using the RE2 Tyrant.
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Nemesis, but Birkin isn't a bad choice either. No other characters are iconic enough for the slot in DbD, or if they are, they don't fit in DbD, like Wesker for example.
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Licensed: Cheryl and Ghostface. Ghostface is already basically a BHVR creation so there is a lot of room to work with. Cheryl because it would be neat fanfiction.
Non-licensed: Feng Min and Clown.
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I'm not being paid so I'm not going to expend the energy to come up with a rework, but I think Myers is most in need of total rework. He was designed for October of 2016 and it shows.
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The reason I play killer is I don't want to sit in a queue for literally 20 minutes.
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S.T.A.R.S???
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That is exactly what I would choose as well. It's cohesive, has the best killer and survivors, and gives fans of both classic duos one character each. Jill and Leon have better outfits to monetize as well. But if they wanted to truly follow the Silent Hill DLC model they'd probably give us Leon and Claire and the mansion instead of the police station.
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Every single perk is a crutch perk. No perk is a crutch perk. With that said, Spine Chill is totally unfair and unbalanced versus stealth killers.
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Nemesis is the only correct choice. He's the most iconic and influential monster in the series, he has the most personality of all the RE monsters and a personality that would fit in DbD very well, and he has the most interesting powers that could work and make sense in DbD. He's also the only RE monster you can beat up Spider-Man and Iron Man and Captain America with in Marvel vs. Capcom.
Birkin isn't a bad choice either, nice backstory and looks great, but he'd probably be harder to implement in a way that is true to his transformation powers, and he isn't quite as iconic as Nemesis.
Mr. X, or any other generic Tyrant would just be some bland, personality-lacking, wall-smashing, charging killer that is a composite of what we already have and wouldn't be worthy of the RE license or the DbD anniversary. The only reason to go for this is that it lets you lazily swap a Nemesis and Big Lady skin on the Tyrant because a Tyrant is so bland and basic that literally any large character can be superimposed on to it and work to some extent.
Jack Baker is a great character and would fit but he'd also fit too well. He wouldn't really feel like a good Resident Evil representative, he could be mistaken for coming from some slasher movie or being a BHVR original. And he doesn't have any real powers beyond the strength and durability that every killer is granted by the Entity.
Big Lady would be shilling a game that isn't out yet, agreed on while her game was still midway through development, perhaps even before the public got a look at her, and RE8 could end up being a flop for all we know. This one isn't happening.
Wesker is iconic enough, the only one as recognizable as Nemesis, but he's also a Matrix reject who would not fit in DbD aesthetically or mechanically. May as well put Agent Smith in while you're at it. The most this guy should get is an outfit for Felix.
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Give us the jeans + shirt combo and the princess heart look while you're at it.
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Thought it was funny that it took them a year and a half to remove the "full health" requirement on Fixated when they already made that mistake with Urban Evasion.
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The Thing, though I don't think it would actually work. An Amnesia chapter would be neat too, as long as it was based on the first game.
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I would like to point out that in his original appearance in Resident Evil 3 (1999), Nemesis was no larger than the Trapper. He may have even been smaller. He was a couple inches taller than Carlos, one of the playable characters in the game. He was smaller than previous Tyrants in previous games. His size in later entries is a case of flanderization and people forgetting that what made Nemesis stand out from other tyrants was that he was smaller, faster, and more intelligent with more tricks up his sleeve than slowly walking towards you and smashing everything in his way.
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Jack is a good character, but there are multiple problems with him as a killer.
1: Jack isn't iconic. Only RE7 players know and love him, he isn't close to being the face of the franchise, and is likely too recent in his appearance.
2: Jack doesn't have any noteworthy powers beyond being nigh-indestructible and strong, which is a problem when every killer in DbD is invincible and stronger than the survivors because the Entity wants it that way. They could come up with something involving mold even though Jack never does anything with it outside of transform into a big monster for his final battle which won't happen in DbD, but at that point they'd be going out of their way to justify Jack, and you shouldn't have to go out of your way to justify your crossover choice.
3: Jack is a human who has simply been corrupted, but is still recognizably human and retains much of his personality. People expect a monster from Resident Evil, even if it's a humanoid shaped one.
4: Adding on to the first point, nobody but RE7 fans are going to rush out to buy the DLC if the killer is Jack Baker. He simply doesn't have any selling power or draw to anyone who isn't a fan of that particular game. So even if BHVR loved Jack and wanted him in no matter what, it's less money.
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@Exerath1992 said:
And i want vampire lady! Lol. Good luck!
She'd never be the base character but if they make the killer "The Tyrant" probably with RE2 remake Tyrant as the base, then she'd likely be a legendary skin. Loads of money.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2145562#Comment_2145562
But he's still a Tyrant. All tyrant class zeds have the same structures and powers. They all have ridiculous near immortal regeneration. They all have some form of biologically manipulating their bodies, wether it be claws, tentacles etc. They all have super strength and because of their height advantage extreme speed. My take is, for the highest profit ratio for skins, they'll either do full on Nemesis, and include a few skins where he's either using the remake reskin or the original, or some odd obscure variant. Or they Just straight up do a Tyrant class Zed with generic Tyrant class abilities, and manage a way to sell all of the Iconic Tyrants at once. I have a feeling that its gonna be a charge skill that breaks through pallets, and a tentacle grab.
The tentacle thing is Nemesis only, tied to the fact that he's actually a Tyrant being puppeteered by a parasite. If we get a generic Tyrant (probably Mr. X) he's probably going to be a lunging, charging, smash-stuff killer, and I don't think that would be worthy of the license. More of a filler-chapter thing. Licensed chapters should ooze personality.
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@IWasLeft2Die said:
Hot take
I really hope it's not nemesis
For a few reasons
1. I feel like he has been overused and I'd rather give others like mrx a chance to shine more. We have MvC, Resistance, Reverse, and Remake3 (im sure other things have had him in some capacity in recent years too)
2. Granted I never played original re3 but remake3 he was cool but not THAT cool imo. I liked him but felt he was overhyped
3. Things like not having his rocket launcher makes me just rather have someone like Birkin or mrx tbh
1: Mr. X is a year older than Nemesis and nobody cared about him until 2 years ago, 19 years after his debut. This is because he's pretty generic. So generic that Mr. X isn't even his real name, a toy company slapped it on him and Capcom has never officially labeled him that. He's named T-00. The guy really isn't iconic and it's just recency bias and internet memes propping him up.
2: You should play the original RE3. Original Nemesis is scarier and more dangerous than even remake RE2 Tyrant.
3: A rocket launcher would be a lot easier to implement than Deathslinger's speargun was. It could absolutely make it in, it just couldn't be his primary power because Nemesis did not stand back sniping people with a rocket launcher all day. I'd take Birkin over a generic Tyrant any day though.
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It will be Nemesis or the RE2 remake Tyrant depending on whether they want a single, iconic killer with unique powers or a guy who charges at you and breaks through walls fast and because the power is so generic you can slap 5 different Tyrant skins (including Nemesis and RE8's big lady) on him and have it fit. Probably more money that way, but it will make for a less interesting killer.
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Not having Nemesis would be like not getting Pyramid Head but instead Walter Sullivan from Silent Hill 4, or getting Pamela Vorhees down the line but not Jason.
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Nemesis had a rocket launcher, and it's iconic to him, but to make him revolve around it to the point of having a lower movement speed to balance it out would be the wrong call. It should be a secondary power, a limited powerup that spells trouble.