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@Kaelum said:
I agree with everyone that by default all personal stats should be private. There should also be aggregates that are public, daily, weekly, by season, and by event, which can be compared side-by-side with your personal stats. And this should be done for the exact reasons that @Jago opposes them. He gave a specific 80% number, w/o any proof to back it up.It's not a general statistic. That's my own opinion based on my experience. I know how much I play and what do I face. Whatever no one care about stats, I made a post about it and no one reacted to it.
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On the paper it looks cool. But I don't think it is a good idea.
Cause it risks to set rules and manners to play the game and how to be "optimal". The camping and tunneling rate with noed is already around 80% on PS4. Bring stat to make it even more competitive ? Lel. That's gonna be even worse. Let's bring a mori on each game with iridescent hatchet and noed so I can please my virtual ego.
No thanks.
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Im a killer main, a BT is nice cause it's one of the only tool survivors got against a camper / patroller.
Great perk
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Le camping, le tunnelling sont des mecaniques de jeu qui ne sont pas punissables.
Désolé mais va falloir faire avec.
Le probleme vient simplement du jeu en lui même. A force de se faire tbag etc, ca genere de la frustration chez les tueurs qui vont simplement miser sur le fait que les survivants vont jouer de facon altruiste. C est le but du jeu non ? D'aider ses collegues...
Du coup c'est la ou les mauvais tueurs vont te donner l'argument que "c est une strategie". Effectivement, c est une strategie, et elle fonctionne. Pour ma part en tant que tueur je trouve cela triste car tu ne vises pas à t'ameliorer sur ton gameplay, tu mises simplement sur les erreurs des survivants qui vont tenter de sauver leur pote du crochet.
Du coup. C est une strategie, et comme toute strategie, c'est contrable.
Si quelqu'un dans ta team se fait camp, ne perd meme pas de temps a le sauver. Fais des generateurs. Le temps qu'un mec meurt, si chaque personne de la team fait un generateur, t'as le temps d'en faire au moins 3.
Si TU te fais camp... Sale histoire, mais surtout N ESSAIE PAS DE TE LIBERER. C'est ce que le capeur veut, que tu meurs au plus vite pour qu'il ait une game facile contre les 3 autres restant.
Si tu te suicides tu ruines la game des autres, certes ta game est ruinée parce que tu vas pas t'en sortir, mais au moins tu le feras stresser car il va voir les gen' pop et qui sait, peut etre qu'il va decoller du hook pour que tu te fasses sauver.
Donc ouais. Le jeu est designé comme ça. Les mauvais tueurs campent et utilisent Noed car ils ont trop peur de "perdre", ce qui est subjectif. Pour faire des points faut chasser, toucher, accrocher. Mais ca, tres peu de tueurs l'ont compris.
Have fun ^^
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Des choses qui arrivent ^^ la majorité des tueurs maintenant campent et usent Noed parce qu'ils ont peur de pas faire de kill. Si tu joues avec des amis et que tu tombes sur un campeur, prends "sur la reserve" si vous voulez faire un save, sinon, faites des generateurs ! Le temps qu'il campe 1 mec vous avez le temps d en faire au moins 3.
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But I guess the main objective of this killer has been accomplished....
Selling Suzie outfits.
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omagad genrushing
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Cause you don't even try to get better. You're just forcing people to do mistake.
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@Raccoon said:
Jago said:@Raccoon said:
All these people trying to justify or vilify a legitimate/possible playstyle with their thoughts and feelings.
You go guys
Camping. Playstyle.
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Lel
As I mentioned earlier, a topic was created with images of multiple games in a row (Rank 6-4/3 progression iirc) showing that you can coast your way to decent BP and results, at least in the top ranks, by camping.
You can call it whatever you want, but it is so easy to find success with it, it's almost laughable.
That subject is a never ending cycle anyway. To each his own vision of having fun.
Of course survivors gonna try to save their team mate, cause that a party game. So you just rely on the obvious altruistic action that are gonna happen, except if you're facing a SWF that just gonna gen rush you.
Yes, camping is effective. But imo it's just a b-e-tch move
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You can't be good at Legion.
You can be good at killer, tracking, priorizing objectives, slugging etc...
But Legion has no counter play. This killer isn't skill relevant.
Your performance gonna be influenced by
- How wide is the map (if you can't hit multiple survivors and have to have a tunnel vision, then it gonna be add on influenced)
- How survivors react to legion (if they heal, they waste time, if they gen rush, you're #########)
- Add ons (Frank mixtape and CD reduction. Basically you end each chase in less that 20 sec without any mind game or counter play on the other side)
If you're bad a tracking, it's not legion related.
Bad at priorizing and lacking on broken "playstyle" aka camping + Noed, it's not Legion related.
Be a good killer first. Then you'll see Legion is actually broken and boring. (for both sides)
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@Raccoon said:
All these people trying to justify or vilify a legitimate/possible playstyle with their thoughts and feelings.You go guys
Camping. Playstyle.
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Lel
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The answer is : Unsecure player that are too scared to face a self defined "loss".
Lel. Git gud.
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@Iceman said:
Iceman said:How about for every injured survivor The Legion speed increases.
It is basically similar to how the devs mention about the idea of Freddy getting stronger every time a survivor is in the dream world. And it also punishes survivors for staying injured.
1 survivor 2% speed increase = 112
2 survivors 3% speed increase = 113
3 survivors 4% speed increase = 114
4 survivors 5% speed increase = 115I think you all would be interested in this idea for The Legion
That is not a good idea to give him a speed buff. Legion is already easy to play enough. The only counter is to do gens separately and not healing since it's useless and lot of Legion use Thanato. Giving a speed buff based on the health state is in my opinion totally dumb.
This killer needs a rework already. Period.
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No optimization anymore my dude.
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@Bravo0413 said:
Jago said:@alivebydeadight said:
@Bravo0413 said:
alivebydeadight said:
Is this a joke, because they are skill based indeed
Their power prettymuch a free hit... theres no skill involved with vaulting and theres no cooldown on missed attacks... how is there any skill involved when using their power? 😂
you need to know when to lunge before the timer runs out, you need to know if the survivor is willing to fall for your mindgames, you need to know the amount of time for the frenzy is over, you need to know if there is a vault near by to be able to vault in time after the survivor does while having the time left on your frenzy, you need to apply pressure to all survivors aswell, and you can still 360 legion too
Or you just can tunnel, camp and noed. As every killers do those days.
If you 360 a legion while they are using frenzy what's the point unless the frenzy ends?? No cooldown on missed attacks so it doesnt matter really... need to know where vaults are while using frenzy? The only time you have vault while using frenzy is in chase and after the survivor which you vault faster anyways.... I can understand being a bit biased towards them if you love the gameplay but by no means is there true skill involved with them... the only skill that is involved with them is the basic mind games for certain loops, which you can do on every killer! (Asides for nurse because shes to slow without her blinks) from Billy-legion.... there's no special mind games with them like there is with almost every other killer.. Billy forces pallets down with his chainsaw, huntress gets hits at pallets with hatchets, trapper can Hurd survivors into traps, hag same and force the survivor to vault back towards you... legion? Ya get a hit no questions asked go on to the next get another hit and go back to the previous person and down them EZ no skill required
Totally agree with you ! No skill required. It's survivor designed. Just wait 6 sec and you're ready to hit. Lel. But the P3 looks great at least -_-
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@alivebydeadight said:
@Bravo0413 said:
Jago said:@alivebydeadight said:
@Bravo0413 said:
alivebydeadight said:
Is this a joke, because they are skill based indeed
Their power prettymuch a free hit... theres no skill involved with vaulting and theres no cooldown on missed attacks... how is there any skill involved when using their power? 😂
you need to know when to lunge before the timer runs out, you need to know if the survivor is willing to fall for your mindgames, you need to know the amount of time for the frenzy is over, you need to know if there is a vault near by to be able to vault in time after the survivor does while having the time left on your frenzy, you need to apply pressure to all survivors aswell, and you can still 360 legion too
Or you just can tunnel, camp and noed. As every killers do those days.
If you 360 a legion while they are using frenzy what's the point unless the frenzy ends?? No cooldown on missed attacks so it doesnt matter really... need to know where vaults are while using frenzy? The only time you have vault while using frenzy is in chase and after the survivor which you vault faster anyways.... I can understand being a bit biased towards them if you love the gameplay but by no means is there true skill involved with them... the only skill that is involved with them is the basic mind games for certain loops, which you can do on every killer! (Asides for nurse because shes to slow without her blinks) from Billy-legion.... there's no special mind games with them like there is with almost every other killer.. Billy forces pallets down with his chainsaw, huntress gets hits at pallets with hatchets, trapper can Hurd survivors into traps, hag same and force the survivor to vault back towards you... legion? Ya get a hit no questions asked go on to the next get another hit and go back to the previous person and down them EZ no skill required
you quoted the wrong person btw, and legion requires skill to play every single reason, everything you just mention is showing you need skill to use legion
No .I can link you some RAnk 1 legion gameplay from me. and it's crappy easy to do 4K.
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@alivebydeadight said:
@Jago said:
To each his own definition of winning. Not hooking the entire game, does 4 hook with noed at the end ? Is that winning ?Different answers for different people.
winning is getting 3 sacrifices, if noed gives you a kill that is an issue
You see, I don't agree with you
to me, sometimes, winning is just having fun and have those 4 BBQ stacks. Got lot of chase, hook on different people, so I know everyone enjoyed actually have a playing experience... -
@Unicorn said:
I've been having a lot of in game lag as well. My skills checks kept freezing yesterday causing me to miss them. Also my Menu freezes for about 5 seconds before loading up. The optimization patch is coming soon though so I'm willing to put up with it. :chuffed:Sorry to disappoint you but they announced some days ago there will not be optimization for console...
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@Dreamnomad said:
@Jago said:
Doesn't exist for survivors. I'd say it's close to a 3 gens doc or an insidious basement Leatherface.Change my mind.
I absolutely hate posts that use "change my mind". I don't really care if your mind is changed or not. I personally don't mind running into Legion as the escape rate is pretty decent and you generally get good bloodpoints in the process. It also feels good slamming a pallet in their face when they are in frenzy. The only time I don't like Legion is when they are a camping scumbag, but that is true with all killers.
Yes 90% of the time those guys camp and bring NOED on PS4. It requires no skill but to wait to frenzy again when you're tunneling, so yeah, it can be frustrating to play against.
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Money maker killer for teenagers survivors ;D
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To each his own definition of winning. Not hooking the entire game, does 4 hook with noed at the end ? Is that winning ?
Different answers for different people.
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@alivebydeadight said:
@Bravo0413 said:
alivebydeadight said:Is this a joke, because they are skill based indeed
Their power prettymuch a free hit... theres no skill involved with vaulting and theres no cooldown on missed attacks... how is there any skill involved when using their power? 😂
you need to know when to lunge before the timer runs out, you need to know if the survivor is willing to fall for your mindgames, you need to know the amount of time for the frenzy is over, you need to know if there is a vault near by to be able to vault in time after the survivor does while having the time left on your frenzy, you need to apply pressure to all survivors aswell, and you can still 360 legion too
Or you just can tunnel, camp and noed. As every killers do those days.
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@Shad03 said:
The frame rates are slow sure, but I barely noticed anything else the next few seconds. Thank the Entity that it doesn't affect gameplay. That would be sad.Yeah hopefully it's not !
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@Watery said:
I don’t quite get what you mean in that regard; I understand your concerns asto framerate, but the bloodweb design is fine. Due to the increasingly high demand for the winter event, they pushed one out in hopes of making those happy and continuing the tradition of said winter event. Though there is no objectives, or alternatives, rest assured knowing that sweaters will come out at later dates. The framerate, though annoying does not purely only affect console; I have been on pc and have had some issues.
EDIT: If you’d like to voice a complaint, there’s an ongoing survey! It’s a great way to get some facts on how the community thinks of stuff- you can find it in the thread about winter solstice.Try it console if you can. You'll understand what I mean by "it's awful".
You can barely move the cursor, the snow particules are 20fps, the bloodweb style decrease the visibility. It results into a headache when you're leveling up, as it takes so much time cause of those fps.
Voice a complaint ? I don't know, they said there would not be console optimization.
I'm just upset and spread my toxicity.
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Prefered killer to go against is the match where everyone got a chance.
No camping, noed, early moris, DS or insta heal.
A game that last where everyone got fun, at doing kills, at chasing or getting chased, at saving, healing and doing objectives.
That are the games that we remember. And no matter the killer.
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2/10 for the map
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You won't get laughed at if you're taking pleasure at getting better. You don't care about what people are thinking.
I don't even use ruin or noed and when you do a 4k with that ######### killer without camping or what, seriously that's a satisfaction.
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@Gamzello said:
Plus there's always a counter play to everything.
Lol. There is no counter to legion. It's a braindead killer that just have to wait his power to come back to use it again.
I agree with the OP, Legion needs a twist.
As a killer it's sometime frustrating especially if you play "fairly" (No NOED, No camping), you won't kill much unless you're playing against bad survivors, that stay packed or that waste time healing.
As a SOLO survivor goddammn it's so boring. I don't enjoy it at all, there is no chase fun, no challenge of countering, nothing. You just do gens and hope your team mates know how to play against him. And cause this killer just brung survivors players to play killer, 90% of them camp and use noed. (on PS4).
Legion is bad designed at all points. It's basically just a money maker that please survivor players.
Nice marketting lel.
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Who wants to keep playing when you get camped and other survivors are stupid enough to not do gens ? Lel. I'd DC aswell.
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Legion is bad against SWF. Plus it's depending on the map you're running.
You can't win everytime. When I play a game, personnally, I think more about how I gonna improve my playstyle and be better. Playing huntress on PS4 is kind of a challenge and that's a win to hit some hatchets ^^
Think about pleasure, not winning or losing.
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On ps4 there is more camp, yes. Actually it's about 90% of the games.
But i'm not sure it's only about BBQ. I think it's because of Legion.
Many survivors player, especially kids, like the new killer Legion because of the edgyness. And what do you do when you're a non experienced killer ? You get roamed and you use camping and noed...
Facts.
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Lot of truth in your comments guys. Guess I'll just have to chill with my mind about this haha.
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Probably. Cheap strat for now.
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It was not an exhausting list as it's not the point of this subject. I'm talking about post game chat, private messages and so on, that are logical comportment answers brung by those in game frustrations.
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It can't be. Billy won't even been played anymore. Oh wiat, they should also do this for nurse attacks ! Lel
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Feels like this patch has been made without being tested ! ######### so many bugs and dumb mistakes...
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80% of the time it's like this on ps4
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I played around 10 games on ps4 with legion and nobody did DC ...
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People that rely on BBQ now gonna think everyone is around the fresh hook, and are going to camp
if you're fine with that then ...