If disconnecting from a game is bannable, so should killing yourself on the hook
Plain and simple. They're both ragequitting and I had 3 games in a row where 2 people did it because of a camper.
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Plain and simple. They're both ragequitting and I had 3 games in a row where 2 people did it because of a camper.
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I may be wrong, but isn't killing yourself on the hook the same as trying to get off the hook?
So you want people trying to get off the hook to be a bannable offense? Really?
So basically if my finger slips (yes it does) I am gonna get banned. It is gonna be very exciting.
Also literally using game's feature is bannable offense? I hope using DS and NOED is also bannable lmao
They can't kill themselves on hooks, only the Entity can.
On a different note, i kinda wish getting off the hook was a skill check instead of a coin toss.
Skill Check? You mean those things that Survivors hit 99% of the time?
Its still hook / hook / dead ... They could make the window really small and make it wider for Ace like perks. Im a killer main, so i suck a survivor, I always fail my coin tosses. Feels bad man.
On one hand you cant punish someone who decides they've had enough and leave the legal way
On the other hand, you gotta feel bad for the team when someone decides to suicide on their first hook.
I just mean that the devs made a Perk separately to be able to achieve this result.
A.k.a. they don't think you should be able to get off the hook with just a Skill Check.
And i can definitely see why they think that: If i carry a DS user without dribbling, i WILL get stabbed.
Even if you want to punish people, you simply can not know whether it was intentional or not.
Also, even if lets say we find a way to prevent it, being bad at the game is not bannable, one can always get found and downed quickly.
I honestly didn't think of it that way .. fair enough. +1 Understanding
They are NOT "trying to get off the hook" and you know it. They are using it to circumvent being a dc. If they were legitimately trying they would have struggled too.
Killing yourself on the hook ######### your team not the killer. The sense of maturity would be to stay on the hook and let your team do gens. Instead you freed up the camping shitter to go patrol gens and repeat the process. Killing yourself on the hook is 100% the same as a dc.
lol your finger slips? Bullshit.
it does, happened multiple times, happened to my friends, happened to streamers I watched.
We are humans, dear god, sorry about that.
Edit; dead god instead of dear god, rip nietzsche
Edit: oh, thought you meant when playing as a killer.
When playing as survivor sucks, yeah, but nothing we can do about it. In a perfect world all survivors would struggle till the end to give enough time to the other teammates to do gens...
That's the 1st half, second half can abruptly end for so many reasons.
Side note- Don't know about you but mashing buttons is hell on controllers and most don't have cash lying around to buy another
What's next 2 people workin on one gen while going up against legion is bannable. Stepping in a hag or trapper trap is bannable. Not waking up while playing Freddy is bannable?
So on top of it you want them to be bait for the killer, or struggle as long as possible when everyone is on the other side of the map? Stop being so single minded and think about the other reasons outside of your personal feeling space, as to why dying on the hook is warranted. Oh, but wait, we both know this is about YOUR game and YOUR fun, so everyone else doesn't matter.
Guys my finger slips too sometimes and sometimes but not always my finger slips right when a survivor is about to unhook me.
Well of course they're going to want to leave the game if they're getting camped it's waste of their time. Also if it was bannable, then me killing myself on a hook when my whole team are on second stage is bad? No they're all as good as dead I won't sit there and struggle while the killer keeps smacking me with his weapon it's annoying as hell and I'm not even toxic when I get this bm. Or if I have trashy teammates who don't unhook me before my second stage and can't even get a gen done then yes I will stop struggling. You're not smart to say that should be bannable when there are so much scenarios where u should stop struggling.
Happens to everyone actually. You seem like a very new player so it probably happens to you all the time. I wonder if you get rekt by a Freddy too?
You are NOT trying to get off the hook when you do that. REALLY? We're it's a 3% chance. It's meant for DIRE situations like when everyone is downed. It is 100% a rage quit action when you do it on your first hook and you're the first one hooked. It should be bannable.
Awwww you resort to personal attacks because you have nothing better to do. Sad that you have no ground to stand on so you lie and attack people.
It's no different than a DC then. Actually it says ragequitting in the report.
I love this comments here.
"And what if I accidentaly suicide on the hook?"
Dude, thats 1 button.
And maybe they should delete this button.
Because its just unnecessary.
Or at least revamp it entirely. If it was a skill check between the size of a great skill check and rank 3 overcharge that would flash 3 times without penalty on your first hook, that'd be fine and it should occur at some random intervals closer to the struggle phase.
Bad/new players think there isn't a penalty or something and do it ALL the time every first hook. Bad players who don't care about their team do it and it should be considered rage quitting.
Revamping it to be something that actually takes some skill and doesn't penalize your team for "trying" and also stops the rage quitters would be a very welcome change.
Honestly the struggle phase also needs to just go. Keep the animation, but it's just another way for rage quitters to give the middle finger to your team.
Lol your stupid examples are nowhere near the same as killing yourself on the hook. Intentionally stepping on a trapper trap to screw your team would be the same. Running at the killer to have the hook you would be the same.
Killing yourself on the hook is 100% the same as a DC. You claimed you have no respect yet didn't seem to indicate how it was any different. People dc all the time when the killer slugs to get the person waiting for the hatch. It's exactly the same as killing yourself on the hook in order to let them have the hatch.
First person downed within the match killing themselves on the hook is the same as a DC however.
First of: I have a keyboard macro to struggle, so i cannot fail that. Yet, i did in several games. Only explanation is lagspikes or something like that. You want to punish people for that?
Also, i did suicide myself this way, and i have no bad feelings. But i do it on rare occasions, and always because i got a ######### team.
You want examples? I had the perk where you can see people you unhooked, and they see you.
I was hurt and healing myself, and a fully healed survivor, to which i had that connection, lead the killer straight to me. But wait, the killer didn´t see me, so he did it again 2 additional times, till the killer switched and downed me.
Also i had teammates unhooking me right before the killer, then bodyblocking me (again, they were fully healed) to get away and i take the hit.
Tell me, why should i waste my precious time to help such people farm more points?
No, such players deserve to lose the game.
Also, i just had 2 games, where one player is dead, me and another survior try to fix the last gen, while the 3rd one starts hatchcamping with 2 other players left...and of course, he is not going for the unhook.
(i love my auraperks, and so i often know where my fellow survivors are. i saw them doing that, and not unhooking me after my first hook, while the killer wasn´t near them or me...)
Fact is, if survivors act like that toward their team, why should you be punished for not being part of said team? it basicly says don´t play outside swf.
If people of this community want me banned for that u can already tell by that itself how broken the community is.
So you're ragequitting which is against the rules. It flat out says rage quitting in the report listing. Killing yourself on the hook IS currently against the rules, they just don't enforce it.
Killing yourself on the hook IS NOT currently against the rules. If it is, it is pretty dumb tbh.
1. I don't quit, just defending a persons right to not be forced into waiting around for other people's pleasure.
2.Not the same since they go through every stage needed to die and points are given for the process, whether its you or the opponent. Dc is instant and killer doesn't even waste time on the carry. Yeah it is quitting, but on the hook shows that they were at least willing to wait until the camping starts. Rage dc don't even give the chance for killers to prove they are not campers.
It's still a rage quit which is forbidden by the rules.
NEED LOL BUTTON BACK!!!
Not sure if agreeing or being dumb. It literally says "rage quitting" not disconnecting in the report menu.
I had a game vs leatherface today. Game started, not a minute passed and I blew away his ruin totem. He dc. That’s ragequitting. I would ban or punish that.
Now, if someone is hooked and the killer is camping or if they are struggling and fail to keep going, why would they be banned?
Still, I sometimes wish they would ban some survivors. Some dc because they didn’t get to be the obsession because someone else had DS also. Others dc the second the killer downs them. Others dc when no one is camping them at the hook and you are on your way to getting them off yet they give a damn. I would punish those as well.
You're mad the killer is there and you ended the game early. LITERALLY the definition of rage quit. It's even worse when Dying Light does it. There is no difference between a dc and killing yourself on the hook other than the killer getting 1k points.
I wouldn’t say that is rage quitting. I would calling it giving up given the killer would rather camp you than let the game progress over a kill.
Which is quitting in a tantrum.
Here, use this instead it's so much more noticeable and gives your feelings an expression.
Nah, there are situations where you would be right and I would punish the survivor as well. There are other situations where it’s pointless to try and rescue someone because they are face camping and the killer chases you away a couple of meters and comes back. Of course, the situation also varies depending on how many survivors are still on and trying to get that rescue going.
The only time using the escape button is not essentially rage quitting is if all 4 survivors are down or hooked or you have deliverance. Maybe if you have the perk to increase your chances, but that's a trash perk anyway. Any other time you hit the escape button, it's pretty much the same as dc'ing. Killing yourself on the hook to let someone get the hatch? If you had dc'd it'd be just as wrong if the killer slugged you so why is using the hook to quit out allowed? Killing yourself vs a camper? Same thing.