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What you heard is completely true, here's the video proof I made myself to answer someones question about it on the "Ask the Comunity" sub-forums.
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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748669#Comment_748669
If Tier 1 Myers has in fact the Undetectable status effect, than at least his terror radius is now 0 meters instead of 6.
Yeah pretty much, but M&A still is used with Tier ll and lll, so the build doesn't really change...
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@Yodremash said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748973#Comment_748973
No, if you complete premium rift you get 1k cells back
It was possible like that because its the PTB, but if that's by default how the system works than you'd never really need to spend money on The Rift IF! You complete every season to the fullest.
Either that, or its not going to be that way in the LIVE version, where 1k auric cells are recycled to you.
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I think the benefit of Premium is you use 1k Auric cells and after the whole season is complete you gain back like 500 or 750...
Something like that.
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@Hoodied said:
OH MY GOD I KNOW WHO
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/100/MXLNJ37KTMC9.png
ITS JIM PICKENS!
Why does it look exactly like him from the angle of the original picture...
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@Exerlin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748455#Comment_748455
Do you know if the stealth killers can still see the OoO user while stealthed?
If the OoO User can't see the Stealth Killer with OoO, than most likely they'll be able to see the OoO user.
Since when I tested this, OoO was still actively working even though the aura was being shown, even when I was looking at them with OoO. This is probably like that because Myers can drop out of Tier l any time, Pigs crouch is temporary and hardly used, GhostFaces Night Shroud can be broken, and Wraith can uncloak at any time...
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@Deadeye said:
I guess the same counts for Premonition?
Yes the same counts for Premonition, I checked both and Spine Chill and Premonition avoid the status effect.
While aura detection perks don't work anymore.
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@Mookywolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748761#Comment_748761
some day man, some day. honestly i want that mask too.
We all do :(
@CakeDuty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748756#Comment_748756
Michael is kinda meh, but I'm happy for Laurie. The outfit is cute and finally she has some hair that's not 2016 quality.
I mean hey, its cool he got something honestly.
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@Mookywolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748753#Comment_748753
at least Michael is getting a wide variety of weapons now
The mask is what I hope to see in the future, I ask about it every Q&A (That I can remember to go and ask on...)
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@CakeDuty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748740#Comment_748740
Probably not allowed to link it on the forum. Go check Reddit! There's probably plenty of links to them there!
I was able to find it, it isn't what I thought it was :/
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No... It isn't the Halloween 2018 mask I dreamed of :'(
But... if they actually got the license to give them that cosmetic, than I have high hopes for my dreams to be fulfilled... (Also, that Scream outfit is awesome, glad they were able to catch that)
Edited for no spoilers
Aka to not get in trouble... -
@Maelstrom10 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748732#Comment_748732
Leaksbydaylight - I think you'll like some of the content you see ;) specifically a new Micheal/ghostface cosmetic that's coming out but not a part of the ptb
Oh, at long last, will I see what I've been asking for from DBD since that fateful movie?
I must go see!
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@CakeDuty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748732#Comment_748732
*cough*MichaelandLaurieCosmeticsLeaked*cough*
Show me.
Now.
Seriously...
I've waited so long for what I hope is WHAT I'M THINKING THEY FINALLY DID!!!
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Why would they be in the Archive? Michael's cosmetics are exclusive to him and are only unlocked once he's fully P3'ed. (I just found out his cosmetics were leaked, but still... they wouldn't really show up due to licensing issues like Peanits said.)
So I don't see why they'd have those cosmetics in the Archive. Maybe they'll have something like The Pigs cosmetics or GhostFaces cosmetics that're buy-able already in the store?
But as far as I've heard and seen, the Archive has its own exclusive cosmetics with trickles of store cosmetics spread around. But the main cosmetics within The Rift are exclusive to The Rift.
Edit
Nevermind Peanits already beat me to it...
And I wasn't aware Michaels cosmetics were leaked, but the point still stands that they wouldn't really show up in the rift because of licensing issues.
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Dug this gem out when a Rank Reset was going on a few months ago. Back when Bubba was just finished being P3-50'ed for me, I got the trifecta of Bloody Party Streamers in his bloodweb to top off the P3-50.
A lucky chance to have indeed, if I do say so myself.
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@Yung_Slug said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748656#Comment_748656
Myers was already immune to that, though. And now he's no longer immune to Spine Chill? I'd say he's been nerfed, then.
I never noticed it if that was the case. The only detection perk that was an issue was OoO, and that's it.
Having Spine Chill or Premonition work on Myers doesn't really matter tbh... Sure it makes stealth a bit harder but that's honestly it, with OoO, stealth didn't exist at all... (Especially if it was a SWF on coms calling it out.)
I have video proof of Aura Reading perks not working on stealth Killers to, but I didn't upload it cause its kind of a no brainer... Its just for proof in-case someone asks.
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@PolarBear said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748455#Comment_748455
Thanks for the excellent answer (added bonus for video evidence!).
Kind of a shame... But that's what Spine Chill was made for. If it didn't work against these killers it would be a lot worse.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter if Premonition or Spine Chill still works... As long as OoO can't see Myers on the other side of the wall with Tier l 0 TR... than idc.
Cause OoO ruined stealth, seriously.
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Oh how lucky you're that I caught this question before I got off the PTB. Since I was able to see this before I wrapped up my time on the PTB, I actually got someone to help me figure out that exact question you have!
Here's the answer in video form!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag7X0-MplrA&feature=youtu.beBasically, no. Spine Chill doesn't play by the rules of the undetectable status effect... so Survivors can still see Killers like Wraith when he's cloaked, Pig when she crouches, invisible Freddy, and yes... Tier l Myers.
BUT! I did test if aura reading perks like OoO, Alert, etc work on these Killers... the answer is... NO! THEY DON'T HA HA! So that means Myers, GhostFace, and Pig don't have to worry about OoO users destroying their stealth...
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I play a new Killer every new match, so this doesn't really matter to me... and i'll still bring a variety to some players I face during my match spree.
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Perks like these need to be re-done as the concept they follow is really niche and like you said situational.
They don't really do much of anything... it's the same thing with perks like Monstrous Shrine or that perk that decreases cooldown of missed attacks by 30% as killer.
Perks like these on Survivor and Killer really don't serve a purpose, and buffing them really is a challenge since... doing so isn't really possible unless the buff is huge.
It's best they rework the perk all together to something else.
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Flip Flop is only useful for a build that focuses on crawling away with tenacity from Tapps perks, and using Flip Flop to regen and gain a decent amount of charge on your wiggle meter away from the hook so you can hop off.
Other perks that Survivors have could help also, but I can't think of any off the top of my head at the moment.
As for Mettle of Man, its very specific and requires you to gain tokens through protection hits, which are only given when you take a hit for someone at for example... right next to them when a Killer hits you, right next to a hook when the Survivor was unhooked, etc.
I'm going to be honest here, and tell you to give up on Post-Nerf Mettle of Man. Don't attempt to incorporate it into a build, because unlike how it used to be with just taking regular hits, taking protection hits is finicky and not worth it in the long run if you want my full honesty.
Seriously, you're better off using his other two perks with builds that can co-exit with the perks...
Play Ash like any other Survivor because all Survivors are basically the same, if you want a specific idea on how to play as him, you can try playing aggressive and courageous which co-exists with him being a fearless survivalist. Don't be afraid to take risks by finishing generators, and rescuing Survivors is a must.
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My best advice is to avoid mind-gaming her around short loops, either brute force the loop or leave it to someone who can mind-game them without fail.
You can also fake out where you'll run to when she's phase walking to you, to do this you just walk towards where you ran from to fool her into thinking you're moving forwards rather than back to her husk.
You can also just do this when you know she's phasing, just walk and she'll have to honestly guess which direction you walked to... Which is a 50/50.
Also, be aware she'll mind-game windows and phase to the other side of said window loops, so either fake out vaults or just vault than vault back to avoid being doinked by her sword.
That's the best I can say, you can also use perks like Iron Will to remove grunts of pain all together, making it harder for her to phase walk right to you when you're hurt...
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I don't mind her tbh.
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@MemberBerry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744907#Comment_744907
If the does, then the devs will truly show us how much they don't care about killers.
Who knows, if Nurse was nerfed than anything can be nerfed/buffed now.
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@Plu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744894#Comment_744894
That's fair, they are rare that's for sure.
I just hope it's the only base kit change that's going to happens because I still have ptsd of Legion gutting.
I think all of the forums has PTSD of the legion nerf at this point.
Whether they're serious about it or not lol.
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Spirit could be nerfed too you know.
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@TheGhostFaceMain said:
I agree that this is a reaction to how Legion was over nerfed, IMO. I think if they go back and fix some things with Legion's base kit it would show the community that they listen to how people feel about low tier killers and not just high tier killers like Nurse; but I do not know what they should change outside of VFX of the fatigue and blood in Feral Frenzy.
I don't think that would fix the stigma tbh, you can only move forward from it tbh with future changes.
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@Leonardo1ita said:
Well, +1 whatever you wrote, since it's longer than the holy book XD
Yeah basically...
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@Plu said:
Her power negates things yes, but she has warnings, you see the animation, it makes sounds, you have time to avoid it and dodge it, it won't necessarily work against good nurse tho, that's why you need to mindgame her and be unpredictable.
I feel like the ones who are happy about that uncalled for change are the ones who never bothered trying to counter her and just ran in a straight line.
Sure it's not the end of the world, it's not such a huge change but will definitely make her snowball less, but seeing people acting like her power has no counter is a scary red flag to me, especially when Spirit exists.
I don't mind the change and I've played and attempted multi times to counter a very high skilled Nurse.
It's just that they're so uncommon because of how un-fun she is... that I rarely see them anymore.
Besides, we'll see how the PTB goes with the changes. They're subject to change themselves you know.
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@Endstille said:
Well because bhvr did market it as a rework of her add ons and instead did something else. People have been playing that Killer for a longtime by now.
"hey you know so we have Fatigue so you don't spam blinks and your power is on a cd but we decided to add another cd so you can't spam blinks!". #########?
Than These utterly uncreative addons like go teleport back to where you came from, yeah cause what Nurse does want that? Undetectable on a Killer that shrieks everytime he does something, ######### yeah. Make survivors scream when you blink past them.. like dude utterly pointless and bad not even creative. Pay bp so you can equip an addon that makes you loopable, literally every Nurse wet Dream.
They tweak a Little bit around Change common to Ultra rare, which probably every Nurse main will have hundreds anyway. So yeah clap clap smart Things and pretend they did a good Job.
All they had to do was fix the broken add on but they go full yolo. As Always not giving a damn About balance, nor the fact that red ranks will again suffer from that because that is where variety will be less and Lobby dodging even more. With ofc less fun games but boring af ones against even more tryhard toxic Spirits. Neglecting the fact that People voted to dislike spirit the most and not Nurse.
Why is it hypocritical to say "but wait dude try it out, give it a Chance"?
Cause the very same survivors that cry "no counterplay" have no clue and didn't bother to Play Nurse until r1 and stay there without add ons. Otherwise they would know at least how to Play against it and not go down in chases so darn quickly. These People who didnt put in the effort, cried, got what they wanted and demand of other People to make it work.
I agree that the marketing switch was a bit odd, but I still believe the change to base-kit doesn't really make her any-less powerful than she already is.
If 4-3 seconds is an issue when you can still follow them and lock on to their position of where they'll go, than idk what to tell ya. She can jump from literally two tiles with ease, and having 2 blinks makes that even easier to pin-point where to go to down a Survivor.
Besides, these changes are subject to... change... since the PTB will roll out today, and i'm sure if its that big of an issue they'll subtract the base-kit or even think of another means of change towards it.
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@Plu said:
People asked for omegablink and 5 blink nurse to be gone and only that.
The one who asked for a power nerfs were the survs that can only run in a straight line.
Idk if that's the entire story...
A lot of people agree that her powers negate any conventional means that the game has established with all its Killers... except Nurse.
She's a different breed, and I believe it has something to do with her power concept being from a dead era of DBD, where the meta was absurdly OP and when the game was more... glitchy...
I think changing her powers to reflect the current meta seems a bit better. But that's just me.
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@Plu said:
Because thoses bases kits nerfs were uncalled for and nobody asked for them, just like Legion when they got overly nerfed when all that needed to happen was an exploit fix and nerfing Frank's.
I think a lot of people have asked for Nurses powers to be nerfed over the years...
This was eventually going to happen, its not really that severe anyways. But you can be the judge of that when the PTB drops today.
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@Elegant said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744784#Comment_744784
clashing opinions is pointless if no one is going to change their minds or is open to changing their mind. At that point it's just two people throwing things at two different walls.
To each their own.
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@RoarinBlaze98 said:
But in other words you still have to aquire the teachables? Or the perks just show up random in the webs
You still need to level up a character to level 30, 35, and 40 in the blood-web to unlock teachables yes.
Because of how the blood-web is now, you can possible get the teachable perk unlocked for all Killers/Survivors, and get another perk on-top of that in the same blood-web now.
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@Awakey said:
How long did it take you to write that novel?
15 minutes I think.
I'm used to writing paragraphs for something as simple as a comment on a post lmao.
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@Elegant said:
Because the community is really dumb. If you spend any amount of time on the forums and look at the kinds of things that most people end up saying, it's impressively stupid. They have no understanding of the game or how balancing should work. They have no logical evidence to back up arguments, just awful reasonings that can easily be picked apart. I would honestly just ignore almost everything you see on the forums because you are going to be wasting air trying to convince people on here.
Well, i'm not really convincing them to change their opinion to mine, its more so to clash opinions and see why the other side thinks that way or something.
It's fun discussing things.
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@Boss said:
Don't really feel like any of these choices.
Same.
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@Spooky13 said:
I feel like most people are jumping the gun simply because it was mainly advertised as an addon rework for the longest time, and more recently was advertised as that plus a slight change, keyword being slight. Everyone is scared because Legion got completely thrashed, and those were advertised as slight changes. Everyone's PTSD is acting up. I personally disagree with the changes, but hopefully they change it in the PTB if there is enough outcry and it really is as bad as it seems.
It's possible, that'd make sense to why people are so defensive to a Killer change now... Or just a change in-general now.
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@martin27 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744479#Comment_744479
I died numerous times to the nurse but it's never been the hopeless situation survivors make it out to be
Perhaps you haven't found THE ONE yet, and you probably never will now since the changes for her are soon.
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@Ihatelife said:
The addons are very interesting. I'm starting of thinking to trying them in PTB :)
Same!
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@Kenshin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744484#Comment_744484
i only remember freddy. even tho his addons suck ass like most of the killers. thats also a point
Well, they did good with adding Demogorgons shred to his base-kit, Spirit got a lot better after her PTB, making her a big threat, they just changed Nurses Omega Blink (Something a lot of people hated).
Uh, they changed GhostFaces distance towards when he can be broken out of Night Shroud, which made him a lot more viable for Red Ranks now, they're looking into changing Pigs base-kit and add-ons for the future, Freddy's Rework, they changed the lunge perception to be more accurate and equal between all Killers, stuff like that to name a few.
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@Kenshin said:
look at the devs history how they treating their killers and you got your answer.
They've done a lot of good with Killers actually, and of course they've done some questionable things with others.
It's best not to draw conclusions if you know what I mean...
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@martin27 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744469#Comment_744469
I'm not convinced that the nurse was as OP as everyone claims, they just needed to play differently
I mean, if you faced a Nurse that knew exactly what to do while circumventing around loops like a knife slicing through butter...
Than you'd know what I mean. And hey, maybe you have and still don't know what I mean... so I guess people see it differently, which is 100% A-OK!
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@martin27 said:
The fatigue was the break between blinks and can be very disorienting, now we have a fatigue and a forced break. Why not make the fatigue longer or just scrap it altogether and make the breaks longer
I mean, anythings possible. Like I've said though, the PTB isn't out yet so we won't really know if anything will change yet.
That's what the PTB is for though, to see if things need to be changed if they pose too much of an issue.
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Yeah basically... But change will come regardless if people like it or not...
This is how we move forward as a community and begin our journey towards a more balanced and fun experience for both sides... Though that journey maybe endless, the progress towards it speaks volumes.
But enough of that fancy talk, what I mean is that people need to accept that some things need to be changed to improve the experience of one side over the other... I think Nurses have had their fun in the sun with a Killer that doesn't really follow any of the games mechanics except their own...
It's like having a character in a maze, but the character can no clip through the walls to the finish line.
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@AkiTheKitten said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744447#Comment_744447
Ohh new stuff. I'm not really interested in being trusted or a mod or anything, but I do like reading new stuff lol
THAN READ AWAY!
It's an interesting concept indeed.
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@AkiTheKitten said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744426#Comment_744426
I don't think it'll be terrible per se, I just don't think it was the right call to nerf her basekit but I'm hoping it's either not as bad or they change some stuff. Btw how do you get that red background?
It's given to people who have the role of "Trusted."
If you're interested on any common questions like "How to join" or "What do Trusted members do" here's the link
@not_Queen said:
Hey forum members!
Most of you have seen the new Trusted tags. We introduced them last week and we seen a lot of questions like, why them and not me? Why do this? Why is their tag everywhere?
So here goes...
What is A TRUSTED MEMBER?
Large numbers of members are joining our Community and we can say without a doubt, our Community is successful. Well, now is the time to shine a light on our key members, members that have shown us that they could contribute regularly to the community in a positive manner.
These are our objectives for the PILOT:
- Provide a sense of accomplishment for key members of our community
- Create a place where constructive discussion is promoted and encouraged
- Help our new members to find a home in this community
HOW DID WE SELECT OUR PILOT MEMBERS?
Our pilot members were selected directly from our Forum member of the month initiative. They, themselves, suggested a few more members to join the PILOT. After screening, we will be adding a few more members to the pilot, maybe you are next?
What are the expectations from the Trusted members?
For the PILOT, our expectations are simple, our members need to keep doing what they do best!
- Create discussions and / or participate on a regular basis
- Provide feedback in a constructive way
- Provide reliable information to other members
- Make the forums a welcoming place for all members
Wait, but I thought they were BHVR representative?
They are Community representative, they aren't associated with BHVR, they are not moderators. The only deal they have with us is to follow the expectations previously listed. They have shown a particularly high level of involvement over a long period and already are a positive force in the Community. They are encouraged to disagree with BHVR or any member, as long as it's done in a constructive manner.
What will happen with this program?
The PILOT is planned to run for 2 months. If we see that it yields positive outcome, we will launch the full program. The full program will include guidelines, rewards and will be opened to a larger group of Trusted members. This is our long time goal.
Can I be part of this program?
We are creating this program with the goal of having a large but limited number of participants. Our guidelines will be published when we are done with the PILOT. You might be one of our future Trusted members and you don't know yet!
We're currently in PILOT, and are subject to further changes and member expansion.
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@NuclearBurrito said:
Why do people keep bringing up the Legion update?
He wasn't nerfed. Legion went from being a bad Killer to being a bad Killer for different reasons.
That's a whole different meme to discuss, we'll just leave it at... some things about him that previously made him unique don't exist anymore with Post-Patch Legion, and now he feels more akin to a life-less husk of his former self.
But we'll leave it at that, cause that's a whole different topic on a different Killer.
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@AkiTheKitten said:
I don't really like the changes but hey, I'm hopeful they aren't gonna just go like this to live and will receive tweeks. On an urelated note, love the red background lol
Thank you, and yeah... but we'll see how it goes first hand when the PTB drops in 6 or 9 hours... Which is 12PM EST time or 3 PM EST time.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744392#Comment_744392
I agree!
Also earlier it was *Cries in Legion Main*
I do that alot.
Now... we wait... FOREVE-
In 6 or 9 hours!