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Also you see how survivors respect the curves? Like they don't talk ######### about the killer like they do for spirit or whatever because they know that curving takes a lot of skill
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@Trwth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1409136#Comment_1409136
Why so pessimistic...?
The music in this game is boppin’
No for real, you think more people will play Billy after that? Obviously not. Don't get me wrong, new chase music is nice. But I don't see value in it when you just see a Billy once in the blue moon.
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Yep that's the issue I tried to adress in my post here: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1409137#Comment_1409137
And the best billys out there need that rev time to attempt curving. Devs have no clue about Billy.
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Why bothering with that when less people will play him after that nerf?
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@Booper_Of_Snoot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1409060#Comment_1409060
This is just another "Heres some add ons, and we destroyed this completely balanced power. Have fun! We sure dont care if you do!"
I fear what they're going to do to huntress. One can only hope its only add ons, but we know better than that
Oh yeah McLean confirmed that iri head will get changed. I WOULD be fine with that if they really would just touch this addon. But from the past actions of BHVR I know exactly that they will take this opportunity to butcher Huntress with it. Probably a side effect of dedicated servers. Since they can't fix hit detection they will just butcher her so noone plays her -> problem solved.
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@Cheers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1409018#Comment_1409018
Well we will have to see. You have the right to complain when you've genuinely experienced it, not just seen a short clip of it.
We don't have to wait to see it. It was already happening 99% of the time in the past 4 years. I don't need another example to proof my point. Devs showed it to me over and over again.
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@Booper_Of_Snoot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/168253/just-shows-us-again-that-devs-have-no-clue
Normally I dont agree with you, but here, it really shows how badly devs like to gut good killers.
RIP Nurse, RIP Billy, ######### you spirit you needed your nerf
Yeah we normally don't agree with a lot of things, glad we do here. Also that even people with completely different opinions on many topics (we for example) agreeing to this topics shows to me its truly a bad change
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@immortalls96 said:
Not that the devs even consider feedback to these changes..they have a vision of their own and the ptb is a glorified bug sweep at this point..it will be added no matter how much it is hated
This this so much this. Devs are have their own vision and they will push it throw no matter what. Other example: struggle on hook. EVERYONE hates it since release. But since the devs have their own vision what interesting mechanics are they don't care and keep it.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408610#Comment_1408610
You don't have to try out the changes, when the overheating is such a clear limiting factor to Billy's gen pressure, even from the video sample it's clear. There are things that are just obvious, and it is quite obvious that it will affect him.
Exactly. Same with MoM when it good leaked. Everyone who had game experience and some brain cells knew already its going to be busted af without even testing it. But even then people said "wait". And it turned out exactly how people predicted it. Why is feedback BEFORE trying not valid? We are humans with brains, we can do logical conclusions based on experience and knowledge.
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@Cheers said:
Don't assume something is going to be bad until you try it.
Don't like it after you try it? You have the right to complain, but wait until you try it.
Yeah ofc we all have the right to complain. But I guarantee you that NOTHING is going to change. It's basically already set in stone but once it's out they will NOT role back no matter how many people will send feedback and complain.
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@Mandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408634#Comment_1408634
Thank you for this @Hoodied it explains things very well.
The Devs do know their own game, they know their game very well indeed. And yes, Billy will now require that little bit more skill to effectively manage his power - I personally don't see that as a bad thing at all. He's still going to be very strong and there's still going to be counterplay to him.
The best Billy mains (ohtofu for example) need 5+ seconds charging time to mindgame at a loop to even ATTEMPT a curve. But now you get a cooldown. What do you mean "more skill". You guys are 100% not better than ohtofu and 99% of the playerbase is not even remotely spending that much time in dbd and Billy. This is just a nerf and has nothing to do with skill anymore. A simple power cut off, that's what it is.
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@BrokenGame said:
mindgame potential? so holding M2 is mindgaming? where's the mindgame in that? you just hold M2 and wait for the survivor to make a mistake, but you still can MINDGAME if you hold it down, just don't hold it for too long and use your brain, it's not a kill nerf, nor a weak nerf.
U haven't mastered or ever played Billy. Come back when you are able to curve against strong survivor on loops.
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@Hoodied said:
Jesus can we wait till the PTB, we have absolutely NO clue on how the new changes will work with him besides some words and a video. We have no clue what the basekit overheat is and we don’t know all the add-ons that were changed
Uh duuuh, they provided us with videos. I don't need more information to understand how it works and how it's going to be. I have enough game knowledge to make a logical conclusion, especially me as Hillbilly main I know exactly what his strengths and weaknesses are.
Despite that a PTB won't change anything, devs WILL NOT take feedback serious. Just see how much feedback they took from the nurse change PTB. Exactly, NOTHING. Hell, the devs even rub salt into the wound and made her cooldown even longer after the PTB.
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Told you. I didn't need to try the PTB but only to use my brain to predict how's going to be. And after testing the PTB and watching others doing it I was absolutly right with my prediction and can confirm to myself what I said.
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@ShrekTheThird69 said:
I gave up on billy a while ago because of the fear of a nerf. why should I spend time mastering a killer just so It can be nerfed. Literally started playing deathslinger as my main so I wont have to worry about a future nerf.
Ohh you shouldn't have said that loud my friend. Bhvr already got big eyes after reading your comment lol
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@gatsby said:
I don't see many Billy players currently. Probably because I play at Red Ranks where everyone has most Killers/Survivors unlocked so they can pick and choose. I'd assume Billy is more common in lower ranks simply because he's a free Killer
The reason why u don't see many the past weeks is because he is BUGGED.
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You must be new here. Otherwise you would know very well that bhvr is going to dismiss 99% of the valid PTB feedbacks and still does whatever they want (and might be doing it even worse).
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1407836#Comment_1407836
Look at the July dev post
Link pls
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Can someone pls tell me what's going on? Where is this information coming from?
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What overheat?
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@MadArtillery said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1407644#Comment_1407644
Yes to both. The dlc I refunded right away though after purchasing. Never done a delayed dlc refund. I was more talking to you than the op as dlc is indeed refundable.
That's new to me, because last time I tried to refund a dlc they refused because I had already over 2 hrs playtime on the basegame. Maybe something changed? Idk
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@MadArtillery said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406259#Comment_1406259
You can refund dlc, Ive done it before when I bought a dlc package for the wrong game (Endless Series with dlc package for multiple games)
But did you own thaz base game aswell and had over 2 had playtime?
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Cry me a lake
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@Cheers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406177#Comment_1406177
And how often do killers use moris? I haven't faced an ebony since prior to the event (Have faced an ivory)
I versed some ebony today already. Everyone is using cakes. But some killers are scumbags and use moris during the event. And they use it in the most scummy way possible
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@Dead_by_Gadfly said:
Infinite. Infinite feels balanced
Infinites don't exist anymore or wdym?
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Yep, by default it should have an obsession. So killers don't know about DS and tunnel like crazy.
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@batax90 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406320#Comment_1406320
Its big, now im not sure were the cage is if he get uncage i dont know on which gen the 2 survivor are going and this can result in a lose
Its approximate across the other side of the map. That's enough information to plan your gen rotation. More information and it's just to easy to b line to the catch and tunnel asap
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It's going to be in EVERY GAME the case. High skilled players WILL make fun of less skilled players. Your only way to avoid it is playing offline games I guess. Bullying is part of pvp, can't call a single game where bullying isn't present in a pvp game.
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@batax90 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406253#Comment_1406253
Im not complaining about the cage relocation i think this is a great idea im complaining about the fact you lose the aura on the cage
Still, not a big deal unless you main playstyle is tunneling. Stop tunneling and play normally. Simple is that.
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@Tohmo said:
for the record Hag already has a really low TR. MnA at all levels bring it down by 8 meters, so it brings it down to super small levels
Her base TR Is 24m right? And monitor reduces it by 8m right? So there should be still 16m big terror radius. But that wasn't the case.
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@Steel_Eyed said:
She has two purples that combined give her zero TR when her traps set off. Survivors wouldn’t see the traps either. The purpose of it is very confusing.
None of the addons were used
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@EvilJoshy said:
I don't know if it started sooner but the earliest I saw a refund request was back when Ash came out. MoM was broken and I can't help but wonder if BHVR took their sweet time patching that perk so more people would buy Ash. Then after the patch and ALL of Ash's perk were crap people screamed for refunds. GL with that.
I remember that LOL, the outcry way insane here.
Luckily I saw that nerf already coming when his perks got leaked and since I'm not a fan of ash I did not took the bait to buy him for his perks.
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Most were going right to the cage because most of the time when they arrive the survivor was just recently unhooked and gave them an easy tunnel (no DS). Only really skilled players weren't doing it.
It's good they removed the aura.
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@Huff said:
No. I see plenty of people commenting about how they wait until the refund period is over before nerfing their killer.
I can't exactly say they're wrong. If the killer was that bad for the game's health, they wouldn't have kept him from the testing servers to live.
I'm a person who likes to have all the stuff so I guess to me it's not going to exactly cause me to stop buying the license characters entirely, maybe I might try to get a code out of a giveaway or something... But man, I wish if they really planned on nerfing stuff that they would just do it right off the bat. They let all these killers walk around playing like douches (Iridescent Head on Huntress has existed for how long now..?) and don't bat an eye, but they release a big licensed character who isn't even top tier, everyone complains that they can't use their DS and BT against him, and how he tunnels sooo hard compared to other killers (when he doesn't) and then they change this already mediocre killer.
That's just how game balance goes. You can't please everyone, and the company is bound to make some oopsies. Just wish their oopsies were a little more sensible.
U cant even refund DLCs, only the base game (at least that's the case on steam)
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Oh man cry me a river. Can't camp and tunnel easily with ph right? And now you want a refund so you can use that money to buy Leatherface and do facecamping with him or what? Grow up and learn the killer without scummy tactics. It's not that hard.
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@Steel_Eyed said:
Hag’s terror radius is only 16 meters with Monitor. Are you maybe exaggerating because it is in fact tiny.
Nope, I'm not exaggerating. It's not the first time I played against hag with montior. I'm telling you, she was a fully stealth killer. She popped around corners like ghostface or piggy crouched. Luckily I was in a group and asked them if I'm tripping or the TR is non existent. They confirmed me I'm not tripping..
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@johnmwarner said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406180#Comment_1406180
It wasn’t a bug. It started at 15 minutes I think, while watching it went up to 30, 4 hours, etc
So I have my personal hacker doing the same thing on me aswell? Cool to be thaz popular without realising it.
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@Peanits said:
I can promise you that it is not intentional. We've changed our process on patch notes lately, and unfortunately some things slip through the cracks. We're working on improving the process and we'll try to make sure they're all mentioned in the future, and I'll see if we can get these ones updated to match.
So it's true, you guys decreased cakes in webs on top of already super rare event flashlights and medkits? I hate this event. This is the most lackluster event in the entire dbd history and by far the most boring one I ever played in any game. Can't you guys make it even more boring? Idk how tbh
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@Mikeasaurus said:
It's been disabled for a few days now, presumably because of Tru3talent being hacked into a 3 day MM ban.
"hacked"
It's simply bugged because that's what was happening to others aswell. But noone took them serious because they aren't a big name streaming the game.
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Yep, the entire match I thought "it has to be montior and abuse and that addons which reduces her terror radius". But nope, tally screen showed only monitor and abuse.
So we have 4 options explaining it:
1. Montior and abuse is bugged
2. Tally screen is bugged and showed wrong addons
3. Hag base TR Is bugged
4. The killer was cheating (which I doubt because he was playing very bad and a cheater would have whooped our butts)
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@[Deleted User] said:
Who was the killer though?
Hag with no tr addons
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This just shows how many skill less killer crybabys we have in the forum. Legit the only reason why someone would complain is if he is trash as killer and HAS to camp to win matches. Or get 1 kill. So ya all crying about cage changes you are exposing yourself that you are just bad at the game
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@Stuballs89 said:
you know that playing SWF is against the user agreement and gives you an unfair advantage in the game right? you are aware that you are a cheating SOB by playing with friends. If you want to play with friends play custom games.
I hope you are trolling. Otherwise u question your brain.
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Not even event items?
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
How about you cage a survivor and then go patrol gens instead of going back to the cage to tunnel him?
Nah that's to complex. Them little baboon brains want the simple easy way.
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@LetsPlayTogether said:
Disconnecting cause 3 gens got done. Its always amazing to see how kill players lack game sense, just thinking the game is done after 3 gens.
Funny story:
Me looping killer for 5 minutes. 4 gens. Me thinking "easy win, shouldn't be that hard to do last gen".
Well they 3 genned themselves and we ALL died at the end despite the killer throwing the game like a monkey chasing me that long.
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@Frareid88 said:
Just because you weren't going to win doesn't mean you need to throw your toys out the pram. This game has turned into people saying poor me poor me. It's a game. Your not going to win 100% of games. Instead of DCing just farm some points and get on to the next one
The issue is nowadays everyone thinks he is the best gamer in the world. Losing always means bad game mechanic and never less skill
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@Mandy said:
This is a bug
Thank God... Please Never remove this feature, it's one of the best things for both sides!
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Are you serious? You simply can't camp like a braindead baboon anymore, that's why you cry? Because all the perks still don't work. Maybe git gud and stop camping?
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@A_Skinny_Legend said:
I'm still confused as to what exactly happens. Does the survivor get freed if PH camps the cage or do they remain in the cage and just get moved to a different location?
Cage plus survivor will change the location if the killer camps to long