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I know thats why I took the example where I played with my 2 friends that just bought that game a few days ago, and both of them had no issues or complains about ruin. Luca one of them even said after his FIRST game, "yo dafuq is this genspeed? We escaped after 5min". Well I said "just apply pressure".
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No offence but then you are just to lazy to adapt and learn. Dbd is not the first game that has frustrating mechanics and a high skill cap to learn. Sadly BHVR is a new company to such a "big" game and makes the same mistake blizzard does and listen to the casual player community not to the pro players and mess up with the balancing.
Blizzard did the same with world of warcraft, they nerfed everything that was to hard to learn and too to long to understand. And now wow is pretty much dead, even I quitted and I was playing on hardcore progress raiding for over 7 years.
Edit: And I honestly never saw with 3k hours someone dc because of ruin xD
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You cant say ruin is ruining new player experience in general... I played with 2 friends that just started playing dbd for their first times and both didnt had any problems with ruin. Yeah they hit mostly the 5% skillcheck but that didnt frustrate them. Both of them wanted to get better and tried to hit the great. That just encouraged them to keep doing the gen.
Thats for me a proof that it is kinda the fault of bad players too... they are just to lazy to adapt themselves to learn how to hit a SKILL check what requieres abit of SKILL and EFFORT.
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What do you mean with enduring? I didnt notice anything?
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haha np :D
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It literally says it in the perk describtion. Just read it^^
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Dark Devotion is not a tracking perk dafuq? xD
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Idk if you mix that up with another perk but you just have to hit the obsession with a basic attacke to active it? Its not really that hard and it is totally fine by itsself.
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I wouldnt admit that, for me legion has a clear difference from survivors. But on legion dark devoition is a good perk.
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Spirit is just amazing, the devs did really a pretty good job with her!
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Agree it still sucks that legion dont get any love almost...
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Well there is a difference if a perk gets nerfed because it can create ininits and is legitment one of the strongest perk without any counterplay... and a nerf to a perk that is needed to fix a broken game balance somehow but is still not overpowered and random as hell. Ruin was in no way perfect, I didn't like that perk from the beginning... but low tier killers need it because the genspeed is not fine at all!
The devs straight up nerfed and destroyed ruin completly without any justification expect "new players" but didnt do any quality of life change to balance the nerf out. Ruin was taken to create EARLY game pressure not LATE game pressure...
Instead of adjusting and fixing the main problem the devs just fix something that wasn't necessary.
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Well if I go down in 10 sec than because of dedicated server main hits. A wraith once hitted me through a wall and then I got mindgamed then died. I was like.. well I got outskilled through the wall.
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On myers is funny as hell with T3 xD Just waiting next to a almost finished gen and then boom!
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Dwight is defenatly one of the coolest male characters!
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Susie is the best yandere!
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Shirtless myers still waiting.... or bikini susie... where devs??? :C
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As Doc its funny aswell :D I cant wait to use shock blast with that!
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Rin is nice, I just love her apperence. On of the best designed killers by far! And I see many ppl love Rin, but I can understand that :D
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Agree. I had a funny game yesterday night playing with a friend. I looped the billy for 5 min (2 gens) and my friend then 3 gens until the gates where open. He had still the billy at his ass and trying to run to a gate, sadly we miss communicated and I wasnt at his gate, but recently there was a claudette hiding and waiting for... nothing? When I saw her I thought okey she might still wait at the gate for some reason. After my friend came to that gate no one was there... while he had his billy inthe ass he tried to open the gate but got sadly chainsawed, he had nothing around, no windows or pallets just trees. Then claudette just opens the other gate and leaves after he died. I tried to save him but I got grabbed at 100% unhook :C.
We both ended up dying while the other 2 randoms left and then claudette writes in the chat. "Thats what you get for trolling, stop waiting for the killer to teabagg him". I am like... yeah not like we carried you the entire game and you didnt even managed to open the gate for someone who got chases. Then she wrote "Yeah keep beeing a salty moron, just stop crying".
Oof I was really dissapointed but well that is how it is with randoms.
Often survivors do almost nothing but mostly escape somehow? I wonder how but well, ppl should really think more about their teammates, maybe reward better protection hits not just 100 bloodpoints? Idk but mostly randoms are really selfish, thats why I mostly play swf.
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Yeah agree, the lobby animation is on of the greatest thing about the specific characters. When it came in the game with the store at the clown chapter. I was just statisfied from those animtions from doctor and huntress. I love the animation from susie, that shows even more how adorable and cute she is how she just stands and hides the knife behind her back. I love the animation from ghostface too, how he rapidly stabs in the air, looks really cool :D
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yes
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For me feng seems more quiete personally but I agree with her cosmetics. I like those rebellious type of cloths on her.
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Nah but it should get a downside for sure... the benefit of borrow is so insanely strong and you have only 1 requirement that is anyway done like dafuq? BBQ is the same but it HAD and even GOT more counterplay to that. Borrow only has one... dont tunnel but what if the unhooked guy bodyblock the ######### out of you? Should you just jump over him or what? xD
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Wait Dbd was scary in 2016? I was just scared to not get bugged xD
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I personally think there should be more downsides to toolboxes. Something that should give you a risk or a downside where you should think about when to use a toolbox or not. It should not be a item that you bring and braindead hold even faster M1 than it is already without.
Why does medkits not need any downside? Because faster healing isn't that much of a problem.
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Rank 1 both every season survivor and killer even though I am killer main.
Age range: 18-25
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They should get addressed in this midchapter... thats what the devs told us in the livestream. But in the PTB nothing changes, soundbugs and lunge buggs are both still there.
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Wraith or Trapper. Both of them have really interesting addons that can change your gameplay hard.
Wraith shadow dance= A aggressive pallet break playstyle, paired with spirit fury enduring really strong!
All seeing and silent bell= sneaky hit and run wraith
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Trapper bloody coil+oily coil= You place obvious trapps that blocks good walking ways so survivors waste alot of time disarming those and get injured, good with tanatophobia.
Basicly every other addon combination. -->Hiding trapps <--
There are more combinations that can be fun but these are the most fun and best I know and use. The rest of the addons are ALL usable and have their reason to be taken. All of the addons are well designed and are fun to use and feel good. They are all very counterable and fair.
Nurse in the other hand is a bad example for addon sets here is why:
With the nurse they had some good ideas for addons but some where kinda... mehh. Both ultra rares suck for my opinion, they are boring and have almost more downsides than benefits. Nurse has 3 bloodpoint farm addons... why??? I guess they ran out of ideas otherwise I cant imagine why she should have 3 xD. However some addons are really cool! Idk the names of the addons but there is one where you teleport with a extra button back to your original position. Or you get undetactable status effeckt after a hit. Thouse are good and interesting addons, I wish she would have more like that!
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Legion is one of the worst killers but alot of fun to play. If you dont care about kills then you dont have to be worried but keep in mind that he is not the best and in highrank you will get destroyed pretty often if survivors know what they are doing. I am playing on pc so idk how good survivors play on console.
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That sometimes even happen to me without sprintburst, just a regular hit that get phantomsawed... I lost alot of chases and kills because of that. Thats why I just play billy now for dailys or when I am bored just 1 game. Its really annoying and that bug exists for ######### years.
But lets nerf ruin! We have some prioraties right? ;)
Same goes to spirit and wraith lunge bugs and sound bugs where survivors dont moan or have no footstebs or are silent while they are slugged.
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I never see save the best for the last as a big threat honestly^^ Its for my opinion way to overrated, its only a threat in the endgame where no pallets are but you can also use other perks to have the same effect such as burtal, spirit fury etc.
I wish there would be more ppl like you and me playing those killers, I personally didnt play demo that much because I am still busy leveling other killers first before I go to him and oni. But when I am there I will defenatly spend some hundreds of hours to master them both. They look both pretty cool and have unique and fun abilitys and gameplay.
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Yeah and thats what I meant^^ Obviously it is not hard to learn the shred of demo and most of the ppl understands it fast. But there are only a handfull of demogorgons that knows that if you shred from a higher position that you get a massive boost and increase your jump range significant. I never saw a demogorgon able to shred around jungle gyms or t walls, no one trys that and just sticks with otzdarvas "amazing" m1 save the best for the last build and honestly that build isn't that good but ppl still thinks that^^. I am not calling out that ppl are bad playing this but it is just not that powerfull as you may think.
Edit: I still have to admit that something is missing to demogorgon, but I honestly dont know what. His teleport is abit too slow and the shred is almost perfect, only some pallet hitboxes sucks (example: At haddonfields those loops with those duoble benches. You must stand almost infront of the pallet to destroy it with the shred, otherwise you hit a invisible wall).
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Hm I am a spirit main and I never saw a good spirit in my life and I play alot of survivor aswell. Maybe you seem it different with "learning" but I mean with that mastering a killer, the most spirits I and my friends face are easily jukeble and fall for the most commun mindgames.
When I once played a kyf with 4 friends they got completly demolished by me and they all where survivors mains with over 3k hours. I didnt use silent spirit (before patch) or wakizachi, just the regular green addons.
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I dont think that that isnt that big of a problem compared to genspeed matchmaking or loops. When a friend of mine played his first killer games and I watched him. He had 2 legacy survivors with flashlights that bullied the ######### out of him when he played the first game in his life as trapper and killer overall and then wrote in the postgame "ez baby killer".
That was honestly really sad to watch. How decent survivors have to build up their confidence to noobs that just learn the game. Anyway after watching a few games he noticed to that especially on old maps the most loops are too big and open. And he was complaining about genspeed since he had only brutal streangh on level 2 and bitter murmur 1. The gens were mostly done in 5-7min... even on rank 20!
But the survivors were all new aswell except the "pro" legacy players there. They all had 20-100 hours and still tried to genrush. He was extremly frustrated from the gen speed and didn't know what he should do against that. Ofc he had ALOT to improve but when games go by in 5min and you have to look for a lobby for 20 min thats not fun at all....
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Agree
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And here we have the issue... just like oni demogorgon is insanely unpopular and underrated.
Oni and Demogorgon are both really good designed and well performing killers. For some reason ppl are just to lazy (I guess?) to learn the new mechanics of new killers and tempt to stick to the old killers that they already can play.
I honestly NEVER EVER saw a good demorgon or oni, I always see low leved killers that just do their daily or sometimes a P3 version but that just plays decently but dont know about the anhanced mechanics or tricks. Both of these killers are great just spend more time in those killers... you cant learn them in 1-2 games and thats it. Just like nurse or spirit you have to spend hundreds of hours to learn und understand their own unique gameplay.
Edit: Every person learns differently but I feel the average learn curve is hundreds of hours. I personally learned spirit and nurse in less then 50 hours but its obviously just my own learn performence.
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When a true survivor main is talking
jUsT ApPlY PrEsSuRe baby killers!
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Hillbillys chainsaw is frustrating to play against...
New chainsaw "update": Puts the survivor into injure state if they are not already there. Chainsaw has a 20sec cooldown and stuns you for 5 sec if you succesfully hit a survivor!
Really powerfull in late game!
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The stun is not the issue of legion, even if you use cold dirt and joes mixtape, against a good survivor who will find save spots easily you will keep chasing him for years.
As I tell almost everyone... the problem of legion is not frenzy speed, stun or whatever. Legion needs a ability to KILL or make frenzy a lethal ability somehow. Doesnt matter which of those but frenzy on itsself is actually fine, legion NEEEDS something to end chases faster by downing!
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everyone finds fun different, I am having fun sweating into a game and have a close and hard match where maybe some escape but they deserved it well by outplaying me. But the most of the reasons you mentioned aren't anything you would find in any other games too.
Ppl play crutch perks or killer? Hearthstone, you find every single match even on low ranks ONLY aggro decks or op crutch decks that rapes you in a few rounds with all cards they need.
Call of duty/battlefield? Everyone picks the best weapons that outclass every other weapon.
World of Warcraft? Only best pvp teams in arenas or the best and most class combinations for raids. Hell split raiding is still a thing after over 10 years.
Idk if I need to keep going.. xD In EVERY single game with a multiplayer aspects, there are things that are "crutch" or getting overused. This is nothing the devs in any game cant fix, if they will nerf something "like ruin" a new perk will take that place... nothing will change. So it isn't something you can complain about the game, that is just silly.
But I agree with long que times and extremly toxic players. But that is more or less the fault of the devs, they are straight up doing bad changes for the health of the game that brings ppl to quit the game or stop playing a side "killers for a example".
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Yeah and that is way more then Huntress, Spirit and almost all of the other not high mobility killers have to offer. Legion dont needs a map pressure tool, killing survivors is the problem of this killer.
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I actually brought a few days ago a friend to buy Dbd and we played it. I consider me as a good gaming teacher and he already knows how to hit great skillchecks, loop jungle gyms and how to mindgame. He still forgots to cuddle walls and his movement, pathing and pallet/window finding is bad, but I mean he has no clue how pallet spawns work with 10 hours ingame xD.
I told him Dbd is a very fun game especially in a swf team. It is really unbalanced and it might frustrate him but as a "play once or twice a week" its a really good game for just 20 euros and you have a insane long progress leveling system that works well and motives you pretty well. He had alot of fun and want to play it in the future aswell, hes just busy but once he will find more time we will keep playing.
Fun fact btw: He found that the genspeed is way too fast even from his first game and in the other games he had no issue with ruin skill checks (he still hitted good skill checks alot but he didnt found it that frustrating) and dont understands why ruin is getting nerfed.
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Legion has actually good mobility and map pressure, they are just missing lethality. Your Frenzy is not only a "injure" ability, you can also use it just to run from one side of a map to another.