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:'(Jack11803 said:@Might_Oakk said:
When the patch eventually comes speak with your wallet. People complaining on forums means nothing if everyone gives them money anyways.They’ve had over 2,000 console players quit, damage is done
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It is, im not saying I'd give BVHR I ride to the airport at 3am or anything. I just mean the game is great and I hope it's just a lot of talk but I keep reading and hearing ps4 user say they won't be supporting the game or if it doesn't come by such and such they won't play anymore.ThePloopz said:
They never gave a date and on their twitter they said “upcoming weeks” for this exact reason but on the anniversary dev stream we were told it should take 2,3 weeks at most so that’s the time frame people were going by. You can tell they didn’t even think it would take this long because they gave the shrine return date way in advance and gave the date for the double bp event in advance. I personally haven’t played this since the ptb ended so it can come whenever for me. My question for you is why do you feel like you owe them? You’re not the only one who feels this way so I’m not trying to single you out or anything, I’m just curious because yes they made the game but you paid for the game and the dlc’s that you wanted so to me that’s a fair trade.BOSS242 said:
I'm not sure how everybody is getting their timelines but the first post I personally made about consoles not getting the release on time was the morning of the 8th of June.Dwight_Confusion said:I would very much like for the patch come today, but of course I'd think it would be Thursday as well.
23 full days since they announced it was in certification. That's a long wait.
So it's been 26 days since it was turned in for cert to Microsoft/Sony and they announced that the 12th would be PC's release. Or 17 business days.
Also, I remember them saying "in the next couple weeks" which taken literally means two not three but the phrase is often used flippantly to imply "later on" not really as an indicator of an actual timeline.
SO yes it's been a really really long time coming for this patch. But I dont really think anyone can say they missed deadline. They have never given a date so how could it be past due?
So compensation or any talk like that is just silly. BVHR owes us nothing! They've made one of my favorite games ever and I feel like I owe them, so if it's my patience and understanding they want? They got it
Also I'll be taking that patch as soon as you can get it to me! Please and thank you X-D
I'm just saying I love this game and I'm still excited for new content albeit very watered down excitment. So I dont want people turning on the game if they do I'll never find a match! We've already started calling this game "dead by lobby" due to the past couple of nights! X-D -
The killer would win every time! This could work if you also stop showing which gen is being worked or remove gen aura from the killer. If all you have to do is patrol gens until you find the one being worked that's too easy.Tsulan said:
Right now, the devs don't know what to do with the hatch.Runiver said:@Gorillastache said:
As someone who plays a decent amount of both sides, I can say I hate the hatch as either side. As a killer it just feels so bad to kill 2 and down a 3rd while they still have 3 gens up and know that if you hook you're probably just going to let the other one get away despite wrecking them. In addition, hatch stand offs are so stupid. You just [BAD WORD] stand in one spot hoping you see the survivor sneaking up and can get lucky enough to time it so you can grab them out of it.As a survivor it creates such a toxic environment. I can't say how maddening it is to get put on a hook with two already dead and see the other guy just sitting in a [BAD WORD] closet by the hatch because that's what's going to get him the most points. It's equally as frustrating to have to sit there and wait while the slow as ######### bleed out timer ticks down. If we didn't get the gens done than we don't deserve to escape. Simple as that. The worst part is it's worth more than escaping regularly. It's like you get rewarded for getting your ass kicked with a bonus 2500 bp.
The hatch is just toxic for everyone involved and should really be removed from the game. I know they are working on changes for it but just remove it entirely. It's not hard to get the gates open if your team has any idea what they are doing. The game is already survivor favored. And if they don't then that's part of a team game. Sometimes you get ######### teammates. Die and move on or rank up so they are at least semi-competent.
I disagree.
The hatch as you state is exactly as it should be : an easier escape for the one letting you to die.
It's the original concept of the game, when the game wasn't a scoobydoo fest of altruism like it is now. (Even tho it had HUGE flaws before too, but it wasn't in the concept, it was in the mecanics)They're just turning dbd into a stupid teamgame, while the original idea is to make survivors to have to cooperate until it's not necessary anymore, and to let someone else to die in order to get an easier escape for yourself.
And yes, it's sort of "toxic", but it's the original concept of the game : either you take the risk of saving (and put yourself at a stake, which is why it's so heavily rewarding to save), or you just repair and eventually let die to get the hatch/exit gates.The main issue comes from the fact that the game is turning into a teamgame, especially with the omnipresence of SWF, and the already clear advantage survivors do have, which is rather unrelated to the hatch itself.
As a killer, I don't mind the last one getting away. I just dislike the eventual hatch stand-off, but I usually simply hit and accept it.
My proposal was to:
- remove the hatch. (Most people stopped reading after this)
- remove the gen regression during this stage
- give the last survivor a bonus to repair speed
This way, the last survivor still has a chance. He has to work for that escape, but it's not a free escape like the hatch. -
How about 1% to movement?
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I'm not sure how everybody is getting their timelines but the first post I personally made about consoles not getting the release on time was the morning of the 8th of June.Dwight_Confusion said:I would very much like for the patch come today, but of course I'd think it would be Thursday as well.
23 full days since they announced it was in certification. That's a long wait.
So it's been 26 days since it was turned in for cert to Microsoft/Sony and they announced that the 12th would be PC's release. Or 17 business days.
Also, I remember them saying "in the next couple weeks" which taken literally means two not three but the phrase is often used flippantly to imply "later on" not really as an indicator of an actual timeline.
SO yes it's been a really really long time coming for this patch. But I dont really think anyone can say they missed deadline. They have never given a date so how could it be past due?
So compensation or any talk like that is just silly. BVHR owes us nothing! They've made one of my favorite games ever and I feel like I owe them, so if it's my patience and understanding they want? They got it
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Yeah, I'd honestly like to hear thatLowbei said:can i recommend a good pc spec for you people?
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Yeah watching these forums has become my go to when I'm bored just chillin', not for updates, I know I'm not getting one of those, not one of substance anyway but just to watch the crazy theories and convos people have because of the wait.Lowbei said:
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I wish they'd focus a little more on cleaning up the game instead of adding new killers as often. It would be cool to see leader boards or a better stat system. Maybe making new game modes or adding things for survivors to do other than gens to slow things down a bit.
I think that's kinda what OP was saying spend a little more time with fit and finish over new content. -
Orion said:
Air Canada is also there. That explains the delay in my flight when I said something negative about Behaviour...
Orion said:Air Canada is also there. That explains the delay in my flight when I said something negative about Behaviour...
I thought the "what system do I currently game on?" question when I was boarding was strange!?! XD
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I think giving us legacies should just about cover it! X-D
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Russ76 said:
to me the problem isn't the delay, but the silence on the part of BHVR. they had to know there was a problem and had they of addressed it there would have been some backlash, but at least the PS4 users wouldn't feel forgotten.AshleyWB said:Hmm I see, so gamebreaking issues are probably delaying ps4 patch... This is worse than we feared indeed. 😧 Well I assume they are working hard on the case so just sit tight a little longer because you'll get it soon. It's frustrating but with such a huge update try not to badmouth behaviour too much. It's pretty much free content just unfortunate it's delayed.
Why if its failed has BHVR not come out and told us instead of the crappy no info talking points they've been regurgitating since the 8th of June? How would keeping us in the dark benefit them? -
Surprisingly the waits haven't been bad. I'm on from like 1am to 5,6am and again mid afternoons. The matches on the other hand have been all over the map!! At rank 17 LF I was matched against a SWF level 2 group! That was a really fun time let me tell yafcc2014 said:@BOSS242 i think it is a smaller player base we are currently pulling from. Lots of people are maxed out on shards and bloodpoints and have been for weeks in some cases. I have only been playing for dailys. Have you experienced any longer wait times ate night or been matched wrong. As a rank 13 survivor are you going against 20-18s recently?
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Hahahahahahaharaw_bean said:No.
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I think he's trolling. No way someone is really like this.
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Didn't sound like it. Sounds like he's on the back burner for now, they wanted to revisit they're own early killers trapper and hag are the two reworks going first.
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Hey, I called that # but it just keep looping, and looping, and looping me around automated menus???Nickenzie said:
@BOSS242 I also work at Sony as well and we're buying everyone 5000 auric cells for painfully keeping you all waitingBOSS242 said:
This is true! I have a cousin who's friend is married to a guy that's seeing the head tech at Sony as one of his in the closet side pieces and he said "yep, what that guy said"!!
If you also want the 2.0.0 patch early, call DC-DbD-Camp3rs-Salt and receive 5000 more uric cells! Jk, I fooled you all! 
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I LOVE TACOS!! And I guess I'll have plenty off time to eat them while the wait for my PS4 UPDATE!!!Lowbei said:
You should make a thread about tacos.JammyJewels said:
I think he meant gameplay wise. And besides, you can't limit posts on the forum. People can post about whatever they want, regardless of how wasteful of everyone's time it is. Hell, games are a waste of time unless they are creating a benefit.Lowbei said:you wouldnt... make useless posts that waste everyones time
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This is true! I have a cousin who's friend is married to a guy that's seeing the head tech at Sony as one of his in the closet side pieces and he said "yep, what that guy said"!!Lowbei said:I just spoke with sony and they told me it isnt coming out till july 12th. -
She seems nice and genuine, that's always attractive!!
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Yes, everyday I would like an update on what BHVR has tried and on what Sony has said. That's how communications work. I dont care the news it's always better than no news at all.SenzuDuck said:@Russ76 said:
I agree. You can't tell me that BHVR has no way to check the status. I know if I paid 20 to 30k for something I would have a way to check on it.Like, i don't get you people.
What do you want them to say? Everyday you want them to say "It's in certification" still. This isn't a trip with mommy and daddy where you constantly nag them about it. It's either not done, or it's done. And you'll know when it's done.
Just to be clear, I mean I want a REAL UPDATE!! If i see one more generic "we're waiting for word from sony" post I'm going barf!!!!
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Yeah, I think if they called Sony everyday and then told us what the latest Sony had to say, even if all it was is "a big go **** yourself" and they came on here and said "well Sony just told us to go **** our selves again today" we'd all feel more like this is on Sony but instead BVHR seems to just sit back waiting for a call!! In business you have to stay up supliers asses and make sure your customers know that YOU (BHVR) have done everything you can today to meet our needs as your customers!! For me it really isn't BHVR'S fault BUT they haven't really done much or at least haven't shown us they've done much to help us and help themselves not look like they a bunch of killer clowns ;DRuss76 said:The delay didn't honestly bother me as much as the lack of communication does. -
I dont think many will boycott and I hope after the release everyone goes back to playing and being happy with the game. But there's no doubt in my mind that BVHR has damaged their bottom line. I think the hype dying down from watching the PC people use the new stuff for so long before we get it was the most damaging thing! To ask the prices they want for an outfit, they needed that special "I got something special that few people have" feeling in our stomach if they hope to get that deep in our pockets. And I dont think anyone can argue that the "special" feelings are not long gone by now!ThePloopz said:
Nah they won’t feel anything lol people will buy it still and I know they will. A majority of players will complain about something but not actually do anything about it and still give money to the company their upset at. Now of the people who aren’t complaining most of them probably don’t even know what’s happening. Someone yesterday on Reddit thought their game was broken because the shrine wasn’t updating. That’s why I have very low confidence in any sort of backlash for anything having even an ounce of effectRuss76 said:
if BHVR would contact them and then tweer about it, that would solve a lot of problems. also part of them problem is rumors. i know i heard a rumor that it didn't get sent to Sony and another rumor that there was a problem and it got rejected. an exame might be BHVR tweets and says hey the DLC was rejected. we fixed the problem and resubmitted. there would be a ton of backlash yes, but at least the community would know and not feel left in the dark/unappreciated.SenzuDuck said:Ya'll are crazy af for constantly pestering Sony & MS for dates on patch releases. It's honestly so childish.
maybe it is just me, but i would at least like to know the bad news so i can deal with it.
in all honesty people are just excited... communicate with them to keep the excitement going.
all that said i think BHVR will feel it. a lot of people were excited and ready to buy the dlc. after the wait some will just decide to grind it out.
P.s. I mean for other people, I'm still buying EVERYTHING!! Tee he ^_^ -
Nope, no reason to unlock killer anything if you dont use it or just want it.JammyJewels said:Why hold up PC players though just because Consoles require certification? I've logged in every single day and checked updates. Sure, it's taking it's time. But considering the huge amount of content I'm glad it's coming regardless. I don't play as much anymore merely due to the fact that I've done my best to prepare for the new content.
Also, off topic questions, I'd like to ask:
Should I prestige my characters?
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Should I unlock all Killer teachables? I don't see much point to having them since I prefer survivor and the reduced reward for buying already owned perks in the Shrine.
And as for prestige, it's a personal choice but make sure you have all the teachables unlocked that you want to use, if they not going to use Katys new stuff and you have all the teachables you want that character to use then you can go for it, but honestly I see little value in it seeing how with the new store who cares about bloody clothes anymore and yeah the web resizes but its always back up to 40+ or all the way to 50 before I get all the perks I want to run back to level 3's anyway. So... your call
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I absolutely love this game, and I like BHVR, and I think the Devs seem like good people that I believe care about console players just as much as the PC players. I dont think there's anything malicious going on here, BUT to say there wasn't a very huge mistake made by BHVR is being too polite.
So PC folks stop defending and think if you'd be ok with this? if consoles had it and the PTB and you were the ones waiting 5 or 6 months now with absolutely no changes to the game at all and then you get to watch as console makes videos showing off all the great new stuff and the devs move on with the celebration without you. Do you remember how bad the game had gotten before the update? I remember Tyde Time and the other youtubers all saying how until the update they were moving on to other games. We're still playing that game!! My guess you wouldn't ok with that at all!
A small company like this one will most definitely feel the financial pain they have caused themselves with this misstep. Every single person I know that plays this game on console has decide to reduce or not make any purchases for this game at all, and the sad part is that most of it is not to boycott but because we've gone too long without any kind of update! And that's a huge problem!! The wait we've been asked to endure since SAW is become wide enough its swallowed people interest in the game and to be hyped up for the new content only to watch others play with it for almost a month before you get anything is just such a bad PR move by BVHR that I dont know if they can recover, at least on console, and if it doesn't show up this week? "Curtain call" maybe a unfortunate but very appropriate name. :'(
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Agreed, I was just playing devils advocate to a comment that basically claimed that in business you take what a supplier or supporter gives you for an ETA and that's it. I was just saying that sometimes you dont. That the old adage of "the squeaky wheel gets the oil." Is true. Sometimes if you get pushy and annoying they give you what you want just to have you stop calling. But it could be completing different in games. I was just saying, we dont and cant know for sure unless we work there.SenzuDuck said:@BOSS242 said:
Wish I didn't have to but yes every day! my boss makes me when he doesn't like the eta and they never like the eta hahahahahaI don't think making planes and silly little updates are comparable, however.
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Wish I didn't have to but yes every day!SenzuDuck said:@BOSS242 said: mi
I'm with you but I'm a manager at an airplane factory and half my job is emailing and calling people trying to get things hurried along or eta's on reports and parts.. so what I'm saying is it's part of everyday business to constantly nag. heheExcept if you're told 2-3 weeks you probably don't call 5 days after asking what's going on, right?
my boss makes me when he doesn't like the eta and they never like the eta hahahahaha
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Crybaby survivor main hereRemoveSWF said:Blame survivors for last second switching items, SWF infesting every lobby, invisible Claudettes, pizza Dwights, people naming themselves after OchiDO and other griefers, flashlight abuse, etc.
It's a miracle killers accept any games at all.
If you disagree, you could try playing killer yourself. But crybaby survivor mains are never going to do that, they just want to ban killers who don't accept their role as piñata.
and I do play killer but only about 10% of the time and i know how horrible this game can be when you get super toxic survivors in your lobby BUT you have to play the match to find out if the survivor is toxic or not!! Dodge the lobby because of flashlight abuse!?! How could you know?? Dodging because someone has an outfit you dont approve of?? Man if you really do that, then you are part of the problem and should think about how good you really are if the pants I wear into a match is too much for you. 
I mean I don't leave the lobby because your blood covered Billy shows up! Oh wait that's right i get NO preview of who I'm going against but somehow i manage
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I'm with you but I'm a manager at an airplane factory and half my job is emailing and calling people trying to get things hurried along or eta's on reports and parts.. so what I'm saying is it's part of everyday business to constantly nag.SenzuDuck said:I'm honestly trying to figure out what has been achieved?
Do you think when companies are given estimated times on something (2-3 Weeks) they call up the other company constantly nagging?"Hey, Microsoft/Sony - are we there yet, are we there yet? Please tell us, please!".
You lot need to learn some patience.
Edit - Lol, this comment has been flagged twice now. Interesting to see what rules I have broken.
hehe
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ShadowClaw said:
The exhaustion change i agree with, however I feel the self care change would be more balanced going along the direction of, if you stop healing your heal state starts to degrade like if you were bleeding out over instantly resetting.
I don't hate the self care, it's fine but I think this is a way better idea!! Good thinkin'
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fcc2014 said:
Have fun waiting for 4 survivors as more players move on from the game and new players have nothing worth playing for if they don't have anything that givea them a better chance to survive.ZombieGenesis said:These are the exact changes these perks need. Period. Why should you recover from exhaustion while running? It makes no sense. And this will stop the "pallet drop, heal-heal-heal, run, pallet drop, heal-heal-heal" garbage. Nope, I love these changes. Bring em on.
Honestly, I liked most of the changes they talked about on the dev stream. I'd love to try them all on the PTB.
Got a point here! They keep balancing for the top level guys and it makes learning survivor harder and harder until no ones wants to play but the super try hards and with no casual players and the game now a stressful POS for both sides!! I'm sure all 8 of you will love the super balanced competition game you've helped to mold. -
What do you consider gen rushing? Basically you're saying you DC if you are losing. If youre losing, here's an idea use the rest of the game to get better and maybe you won't get "gen rushed" anymore.CallMeRusty420 said:I only DC if the survs gen rush. S moorry but I want to play an actual game and not just waste a perfectly good match
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Bigfoot_Hunter said:
the hype is already dead who cares.
And that's a huge misstep as far as marketing goes!
I think that's the worst part. We dont even have it and it's already old news. Remember we also sat through the PTB too. I had planned to buy everything I could possibly afford but now that I've seen tons of YouTube and other internet outlets show off all the goods the less I care and the longer this goes on the less I care.
In hindsight they should have not showed off all the new in the PTB that was nice of them to do but a big marketing mistake!! And I know people won't want to hear and I'm glad for the PC folks they didn't BUT they should have held it and released on all three at the sametime!! It would have been a huge boom for them financially and anyone who thinks it will all balance in the end, is wrong and underestimated how much more people will spend to be one the first to own something and get to show it off.
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Not too bad but I would have the rotation stop if someone is working one. Dull or live I would have them stay as they sit until the action finishes. I think it changing to active or going inactive as you're working just seems too luck based.robin said:I just read a discussion about changing the hex totem system and I got this idea that I thought was pretty cool, so I wanted to make a separate discussion about it. so here's the idea:
increase totems by 3-4 per map
every minute or so, the hex switches to a different totem through the map, meaning they don't stay in the same spot all game. It would make it a bit more difficult to pinpoint where the totem is. and if a survivor manages to find the hex totem, it can switch as they're cleansing it, meaning you have to find them quick and be a bit lucky that you found it at a good time.link to original discussion: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/3987/hex-totem-rework#latest
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Unfortunately very true!mintchapstick said:It's not just survivors, you're just on the killer side so you don't see it live & in person. Try reading around forums and you'll see that both sides are equally rude.
but like someone said just do the best job you can to have fun and dont let others ruin that for you. People are not as nice or understanding as they should be
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Billy? Hell no! Leave him alone. But leatherface? He needs help almost more than any other killer. He could use a speed buff for sure. Maybe have him rev the saw without nerfing his speed or at least make it very very minimal.
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I think if a survivor DC's killer should get a ridiculous amount of bloodpoints like 5,000 for each and the other survivors left could get some but not a ton, maybe 500, 1000. And if killer DC's each survivor left should get 10,000.
The reason for the big killer DC amount is it stops the game and match is over. A killer would make twice that if all DC and the match ends that way.
People DC so you can't get the pips and BP you deserve so if they do that it should be more than enough to compensate the other players for their time.
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Man I think they just wanted to cover their asses. It will most likely be days but if they sided that and it took weeks people would be upset with them if they say weeks and it takes days then SUPER!!! and everyone's happy
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Dude I love it when I get hits from the killer while on hook! in a weird way I think it's kinda paying me a compliment.Master said:@BOSS242 said:
I'll dance with my friends at the exit before we leave it's a celebration that we made it out no disrespect intended just talking to each other really. I never t bag the killer but sometimes he is there for our dance (we dont wait for him but) Sometimes the really cool ones will even join us. But we don't hang out 2,3 seconds of dipping then we leave. Also I'll do a couple dips if I run into another survivor as I'm walking around the map again not disrespect, just a way to say hiAh ok, I understand that
But please dont be offended if I hit a survivor on hook, just dancing with the entity at that moment if I just sucked at the game I dont think he wouldn't waste his time hitting me.
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I'll dance with my friends at the exit before we leave it's a celebration that we made it out no disrespect intended just talking to each other really. I never t bag the killer but sometimes he is there for our dance (we dont wait for him but) Sometimes the really cool ones will even join us. But we don't hang out 2,3 seconds of dipping then we leave. Also I'll do a couple dips if I run into another survivor as I'm walking around the map again not disrespect, just a way to say hi
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Yeah imo if you left hook and then return for the unhook and find the injured one, it's fair game, that is not tunneling.Onehouse said:@Zanfer said:
@BOSS242 said:
Master said:@BOSS242 said:
Master said:
@Dwight_Fairfield samooid: The only time I ever do it is if I have been against a camping tunneling killer. They earn a t-bagging. What do you mean when you talk about tunneling?
Tunneling is the only thing I consider "Toxic" for a killer to do. It's when you camp the hook and you wait for the unhooking to happen then go after the one that was unhooked instead of going after the survivor that did the unhooking. It's cheap and unsportsman like imo. You should get survivors because you are better than them. If you only get them because you hit them before they even touch the ground? You are a jerk and it's not a viable strategy, albeit camping is as long as it's done right (NO TUNNELING) and at the right times.
Oh ok, I would consider that camping
And btw, if someone unhooks you while the killer is camping, its the unhookers fault
Oh yeah for sure it's the unhookers fault that's why you should go for him! As the hooked (not in a SWF) you have no choice when you get unhooked. It's why I think its toxic to tunnel. The killer is going to punish the one being unhooked for the mistake of the one who did the unhooking. I know it's the easier target to get the injured survivor and a completely legal move, it's just a dick move. I'd hope that killers feel a responsibility to punish bad play styles to make that behavior stop! It's the same as the camping argument. If I want to punish a camper I should not play to his game. Going for unsafe hooks is bad behavior I would hope we're all trying to make this game more fair and there for more fun for everyone. So a call to all killers "I know the easy target but we need you to do the right thing and go get that jerk that thinks he can do whatever he wants right in your face and you'll do nothing about it!" Also how I say camping is different imo...
Camping- staying close to hook to protect the kill and fight off against any attempts at rescue.
Tunneling- waiting at a close proximity to hook not to protect the kill but to be there for the unhooking so you can replace the kill once freed.
Camping- strategy that is sometimes useful especially near the end of match.
Tunneling- a no skill needed easy kill that gets you points but zero respect from me and hopefully from this whole community
Bro would you rather have the killer let you go. The killer is there to kill people. Yes if the survivor unhooking made a mistake and did a bad unhook than why should the killer not go after the injured survivor who just came off the hook. How is it the killers fault for taking advantage? I mean the killer can choose any target he wants. If he needs to thin the heard for a survivor making a mistake, than the killer should capitalize on the survivors mistakes. When you take out 1 out of the 4 survivors it becomes more in the killers favor. The killer won't be like "Oh look at that, a survivor made a mistake, I'll let them walk away and do whatever."
When I say bad unhooking, I mean the killer had no time to leave the hook to find another survivor and instead found two at the hooked spot. If you don't give the killer time to find a new survivor he will always go to the place where he knows a survivor is at.
I often try to aim for the rescuer at the hook, seem to hit him/her, and instead the rescuee is the one who falls down. Other times I rush back to the hook and the only person present is the one who was just rescued and there's no trail or sign of the rescuer. Too many just rescue and then run like hell -- no body blocking, no leading to a hiding place to be healed. As many who are saved from the hook simply do not run far enough to hide as if they don't know how loud their cries of pain are to the killer. Circumstances that seem like tunneling to them are just their own dumb luck from my view.
To tunnel imo, you must be there when the unhooking actually takes place. Killer makes no attempt to stop the rescue, but waits for the survivor to be freed and then hits him or runs him down completely ignoring any other survivors or objectives so he can rehook that survivor. It is impossible to tunnel if you gave the unhooked even a small window to escape.
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Ranked would get shards for things in the shop and casual would get bloodpoints for things on the bloodwebs.Shadoureon said:No one would play ranked if you get all content for free in casual. That will never happen.
You'd play "casual" earn all the perks and items you want to make a run at rank.
Rank is then how you'd earn shards for stuff that isn't needed but is cool like outfits and skins and perks from the shrine. You could still have rank reset everyone but to 20 at the start of the season and anyone who made it to 5 or lower would get something cool like a killer head that you cant get any other way or a cool shirt for survivors maybe you could give rank 1's a special color variant of the item of the month?
I just think this game needs to give people a reason to keep playing and playing both killer and survivor.
The main point is if you separate casual from rank you give people a way to enter the game with the right mind set and people would be less upset with each other, you couldn't get mad if the killer shows up to play for keeps in rank mode, it's what it's for and you better bring your A game too, and remember no SWF so... As it sits right now I think it's why people butt heads so much some of us show up to do our best to win and others just want to play around. Very annoying when one of those goes against the other. This idea fixes that.
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Sure I understand that, but the only reason I suggested it was the idea that it would keep both game modes full of both survivors and killers. Seeing how i imagine killers would gravitate to rank and survivors would want to play SWF for the most part and not care as much about rank. I think there would have to be some incentive to play both modes.Master said:@BOSS242 said:
But it would totally fix a lot of issues!One of the first post I put on this forum was a similar thought, that if you split play for rank from casual then everyone could practice but not against the same 3,4 people like KYF but against all kinds of players but without the "I have to play this way and be super try hard to hold rank" thing hanging over our heads.
I love the idea that swf wouldn't be a part of rank play. You'd have to build for and actually be good to hold rank. Also now you could set rules and have your emblems drive the kinda competition play dev's would like to see without the clear outlined objectives ruining the freeform casual that just want BP's. So balance could very from that of the casual to keep both play styles happy.
In fact how about rank play is just for rank and shards no bloodpoints at all. So to get anything from the blood webs you'd have to play in the casual bloodpoint arena first get some skills and what you wanted for items and then go for rank solo. And shards could be for rank only. So cool skins in store would have to be bought with $$ or you'd have to have played well in the ranked environment.
I think this would solve a lot of problems people have because if the killer camps for example he would be dumb to do that in a just BP match because he would earn more by keeping the game moving so camping and tunneling arguably survivors big two wouldn't happen in casual because they dont need the sac for their rank. And killers main issue aside from looping which not sure if you can fix that really? But SWF wouldn't be an issue because you couldn't do it when it really counts for rank.
Devs please, please read this conversation and address why not, if you guys dont like the idea, because I think its brilliant!! sorry this post is so long!
I dont think that the player should be forced to play casual, if you only want to play ranked, then he should be allowed to and gain BP/shards doing that
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But it would totally fix a lot of issues!
One of the first post I put on this forum was a similar thought, that if you split play for rank from casual then everyone could practice but not against the same 3,4 people like KYF but against all kinds of players but without the "I have to play this way and be super try hard to hold rank" thing hanging over our heads.
I love the idea that swf wouldn't be a part of rank play. You'd have to build for and actually be good to hold rank. Also now you could set rules and have your emblems drive the kinda competition play dev's would like to see without the clear outlined objectives ruining the freeform casual that just want BP's. So balance could very from that of the casual to keep both play styles happy.
In fact how about rank play is just for rank and shards no bloodpoints at all. So to get anything from the blood webs you'd have to play in the casual bloodpoint arena first get some skills and what you wanted for items and then go for rank solo. And shards could be for rank only. So cool skins in store would have to be bought with $$ or you'd have to have played well in the ranked environment.
I think this would solve a lot of problems people have because if the killer camps for example he would be dumb to do that in a just BP match because he would earn more by keeping the game moving so camping and tunneling arguably survivors big two wouldn't happen in casual because they dont need the sac for their rank. And killers main issue aside from looping which not sure if you can fix that really? But SWF wouldn't be an issue because you couldn't do it when it really counts for rank.
Devs please, please read this conversation and address why not, if you guys dont like the idea, because I think its brilliant!! sorry this post is so long!
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Oh yeah for sure it's the unhookers fault that's why you should go for him! As the hooked (not in a SWF) you have no choice when you get unhooked. It's why I think its toxic to tunnel. The killer is going to punish the one being unhooked for the mistake of the one who did the unhooking. I know it's the easier target to get the injured survivor and a completely legal move, it's just a dick move. I'd hope that killers feel a responsibility to punish bad play styles to make that behavior stop! It's the same as the camping argument. If I want to punish a camper I should not play to his game. Going for unsafe hooks is bad behavior I would hope we're all trying to make this game more fair and there for more fun for everyone. So a call to all killers "I know the easy target but we need you to do the right thing and go get that jerk that thinks he can do whatever he wants right in your face and you'll do nothing about it!" Also how I say camping is different imo...Master said:@BOSS242 said:
Master said:@Dwight_Fairfield samooid:
The only time I ever do it is if I have been against a camping tunneling killer. They earn a t-bagging.
What do you mean when you talk about tunneling?
Tunneling is the only thing I consider "Toxic" for a killer to do. It's when you camp the hook and you wait for the unhooking to happen then go after the one that was unhooked instead of going after the survivor that did the unhooking. It's cheap and unsportsman like imo. You should get survivors because you are better than them. If you only get them because you hit them before they even touch the ground? You are a jerk and it's not a viable strategy, albeit camping is as long as it's done right (NO TUNNELING) and at the right times.
Oh ok, I would consider that camping
And btw, if someone unhooks you while the killer is camping, its the unhookers fault
Camping- staying close to hook to protect the kill and fight off against any attempts at rescue.
Tunneling- waiting at a close proximity to hook not to protect the kill but to be there for the unhooking so you can replace the kill once freed.
Camping- strategy that is sometimes useful especially near the end of match.
Tunneling- a no skill needed easy kill that gets you points but zero respect from me and hopefully from this whole community
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I have tried to find a way to look up ps4 hour reports and came back empty handed. As funny as the watch answer was it may be absolutely correct:)
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Tunneling is the only thing I consider "Toxic" for a killer to do. It's when you camp the hook and you wait for the unhooking to happen then go after the one that was unhooked instead of going after the survivor that did the unhooking. It's cheap and unsportsman like imo. You should get survivors because you are better than them. If you only get them because you hit them before they even touch the ground? You are a jerk and it's not a viable strategy, albeit camping is as long as it's done right (NO TUNNELING) and at the right times.Master said:@Dwight_Fairfield samooid:
The only time I ever do it is if I have been against a camping tunneling killer. They earn a t-bagging.What do you mean when you talk about tunneling?
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Thank you makes total sense. Still a bummer though ( said under my breath as I look and feet and lazily kick at the ground like a child)Runiver said:@BOSS242 said:
Yes kinda but I kinda think that maybe (and I could be wrong, admittedly I dont know the details) Behavior has had 6 months to prepare for this DLC and maybe someone should have turned in the paperwork to get the ball rolling so everything could release on time?? It's not the first add to the game, so NOBODY there seen this issue coming?? I've already said sorry, I over reacted and was wrong i know it and i mean it, sorry, but maybe?...They did talk about this in a previous stream.
The main issue is that it's not only paperwork. They need to give a full patch package IN ADVANCE to Sony and Microsoft, so they can check it out if there's nothing faulty or offensive or anything, in their own rules, for several days.
So they basically can't "prepare" for it, sadly.They just finished the patch a few days ago, after the PTB, so they couldn't "prepare" for it
The only way would be to actually delay the PC release because of Sony & Microsoft tantrum.
lol
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Yes kinda but I kinda think that maybe (and I could be wrong, admittedly I dont know the details) Behavior has had 6 months to prepare for this DLC and maybe someone should have turned in the paperwork to get the ball rolling so everything could release on time?? It's not the first add to the game, so NOBODY there seen this issue coming?? I've already said sorry, I over reacted and was wrong i know it and i mean it, sorry, but maybe?...Runiver said:@BOSS242 said:
Man who dropped the ball on that one?You know this is not due to Behavior, but because of Microsoft and Sony right ?
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Sorry guys you're right, no reason everyone should have to suffer. It was just not what I wanted to wake up and read. I know it sounds goofy but i was really hoping for the 12th, 13th I had even taken those days off from work and I know that's dumb so spare me just plain old jealousy
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Man who dropped the ball on that one? Not happy about the way console players are treated like second class citizens on this game!! We've been waiting just as long as the computer folks and we've had to watch as they all got to play the PTB!! Now they get the everything live first!? This is a HUGE slap in the face!! You should have filed sooner or now make us all wait!!!! To care as much as I do about this stuff and to have you guys just not care about us is very hard to read and makes me very sad