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@Faceless said:
The michael myers add-ons are ridiculous. Tombstone and Evil Level 3 Infinity end the game, there's nothing to do.The guy uses memento mori, noed, evil level 3 infinite, tombstone.
so everyone took it off, no one is forced to play with this type of cancer. It's ridiculous then the killers cry that survivors give dc. Oh yes, because it's a lot of fun to stay in a match of this and at the end still read '' gg ez ''You have the weapon.. Decisive strike
, these killers deserves 40 decisive strike.. or maybe your team suck?
That build just only suck, the only problem I have it's the EW3 infinite.. that's a noed for all the match but at least you dont get a free mori. Myers add-ons are fine -
@Ray_Penber said:
I literally cannot hit the skill check. I have no trouble with great skill checks, but decisive strike (despite having a bigger hit zone) I just can't master. Very frustrating having a perk I can't use.
Any tips from people besides getting gud because I already tried that?Edit: Yeah, I think I am done with ds. I like object of obsession more than ds. By the time I actually see the skill check pop up the needle has already started moving. Making it super difficult for me to even hit it. I have better luck escaping with boil over. Also, you only get 1 chance to hit it. After that your screwed. Yeah, for me at least ds is garbage.
@Ray_Penber said:
I literally cannot hit the skill check. I have no trouble with great skill checks, but decisive strike (despite having a bigger hit zone) I just can't master. Very frustrating having a perk I can't use.
Any tips from people besides getting gud because I already tried that?Edit: Yeah, I think I am done with ds. I like object of obsession more than ds. By the time I actually see the skill check pop up the needle has already started moving. Making it super difficult for me to even hit it. I have better luck escaping with boil over. Also, you only get 1 chance to hit it. After that your screwed. Yeah, for me at least ds is garbage.
DS is garbage because umm, your new?? 100 hours?, it is hard when you start to use and it gets frustating when you lose the perk slot but when you do the skillcheck it feels good.. against a swf everyone with dstrike.. Houdini!, you just need to git gud at skillchecks or maybe you have low fps?? Try to join a lobby with less than 100 ms..
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@JoyfulLeader said:
@malloymk said:
Honestly, I just want pallets to actually work.I think hitboxes need more of a fixing, especially hatchet hitboxes
Dont worry, they are gonna get fixed when dedicated servers come out
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@GraviteaUK said:
@Arroz said:
That's the lag
The only broken hitboxes are the freddy's, nurse's when she blink and the huntress hatchet, thanks god they are adding dedicated server, it will require skill to play huntress
Huntress is ez mode anyways shes loopable to oblivion and those hatchets collide with every object imaginable XD
And it's mostly lag, once dedicated servers come in there should be a real noticeable difference.
When dedicated servers come huntress hitbox will be real

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@Vietfox said:
I've noticed that i can't crouch as the pig when one of the survivors DC (i think it's because of that), i need to hook someone else to be able to crouch again. Anyone else noticed that?I happened me once time.. (since 2.5.0) I think it's because the reduced crouch speed animation..
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@Vietfox said:
Hey i tagged you some days ago. Give me some tips for the Pig, i'm having so much fun when playing as her.I think pig is the most fun killer to play against and epic.. and btw balance.. the only killer who dont down you in 20 seconds and you get fun in the chase, and she can stop the loop with her ambush attack
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@Paddy4583 said:
Arroz said:@Paddy4583 said:
Uhm, that's what you only have to say?
Yes, because it’s irrelevant and inaccurate so there’s no point following you down your rabbit hole, enjoy your trip Alice oh and don’t drink it
@Paddy4583 said:
Arroz said:@Paddy4583 said:
Uhm, that's what you only have to say?
Yes, because it’s irrelevant and inaccurate so there’s no point following you down your rabbit hole, enjoy your trip Alice oh and don’t drink it
Mk, it looks like you dont have arguments, have a good night!
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@EntityDispleased said:
Just click space when the needle is on the white bar. I know, I'm a genius.+10000 IQ xD
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@ModernFable said:
@Ray_PenberI’d imagine it’s a little difficult to hit while you’re having a heart attack.
@ModernFable YOU MAKE ME LAUGH REALLY HARD lmaoo..;D
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@Ray_Penber said:
I literally cannot hit the skill check. I have no trouble with great skill checks, but decisive strike (despite having a bigger hit zone) I just can't master. Very frustrating having a perk I can't use.
Any tips from people besides getting gud because I already tried that?@Ray_Penber said:
I literally cannot hit the skill check. I have no trouble with great skill checks, but decisive strike (despite having a bigger hit zone) I just can't master. Very frustrating having a perk I can't use.
Any tips from people besides getting gud because I already tried that?http://mistersyms.com/tools/gitgud/index try this skillcheck simulator, just try to hit the great skillcheck..
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@Paddy4583 said:
Uhm, that's what you only have to say?
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@Master said:
@Arroz said:
@Master said:
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Because 8/10 games, when I play solo survivor, not only are my teammates complete dimwits, but half the time, I end up in the game with 3 or 2 people. Then there is the issue of people rage quitting, regardless if all 4 made it or not.
Hit --> DC
Hooked --> DC
Downed --> DC
A failed skill check --> DC
Certain killer --> DC
Can we just not?When I am with friends, this is less likely to happen and the game is more fun. That is my problem currently when trying to play survivor.
I dont like to play solo survivor BECAUSE I GET MATCHED WITH POTATOES, I got [BAD WORD] chased for 3 gens and they let me die in the hook.. for this is play in swf I know it's a little bit unbalanced but it's the only wait to dont die in the hook and get some fun.
Thats the ranking systems fault. The whole community cried about easier pips, im talkign both sides here, so everybody can reach rank 1 easily now
Personally i reach more easy rank 1 with killer than survivor because are common things that killers should do (Break pallets, find survivors, hook and chase) But as survivor it's more hard because if you get chased for 5 gens you only get 1 pip... I supossed those survivor got in rank 1 for repair, break totems and escape?..
You need to do sth in all categories, check out how the emblem system works in the wiki.
Generall I would say that its easier to double pip with killer, but in high ranks its easier to pip with survivor (assuming no potato mates).But nonetheless, its far too easy for both sides to rank up
@Master said:
@Arroz said:
@Master said:
@Arroz said:
@Swiftblade131 said:
Because 8/10 games, when I play solo survivor, not only are my teammates complete dimwits, but half the time, I end up in the game with 3 or 2 people. Then there is the issue of people rage quitting, regardless if all 4 made it or not.
Hit --> DC
Hooked --> DC
Downed --> DC
A failed skill check --> DC
Certain killer --> DC
Can we just not?When I am with friends, this is less likely to happen and the game is more fun. That is my problem currently when trying to play survivor.
I dont like to play solo survivor BECAUSE I GET MATCHED WITH POTATOES, I got [BAD WORD] chased for 3 gens and they let me die in the hook.. for this is play in swf I know it's a little bit unbalanced but it's the only wait to dont die in the hook and get some fun.
Thats the ranking systems fault. The whole community cried about easier pips, im talkign both sides here, so everybody can reach rank 1 easily now
Personally i reach more easy rank 1 with killer than survivor because are common things that killers should do (Break pallets, find survivors, hook and chase) But as survivor it's more hard because if you get chased for 5 gens you only get 1 pip... I supossed those survivor got in rank 1 for repair, break totems and escape?..
You need to do sth in all categories, check out how the emblem system works in the wiki.
Generall I would say that its easier to double pip with killer, but in high ranks its easier to pip with survivor (assuming no potato mates).But nonetheless, its far too easy for both sides to rank up
Uhm, your right and for this problem a lot of potatoe's are in rank 1.. this problem need to be fixed and im gonna play solo most of the times because play solo in rank 1 is a challenge.. but playing as swf I can just easy win that game.. (And this is a problem too)
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@Vietfox said:
Only bhvr staff can do that.And that sucks
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@Paddy4583 said:
Arroz said:It's funny how killer main complain about SWF teams with voice chat... But the game is nominated as "best with friends" at the steam awards .. what a coincidence,...
Funny how killer main complain about SWF and in the next post your complaining about lobby dodging... see how this works yet? Are you seeing the reason why your dodged?
I’ll give you a clue it ain’t your P3 QuentinIt just was for show my rank not the p3 quentin anyone can be good without prestige, umm do you read patch notes? killers are getting a lot of buffs and survivor are getting nerfed and they still refuse to play against 3 toolboxes, If a swf with 4 toolboxes join my lobby i'll equip franklin's demise or overwhelming presence, problem fixed let's play

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@Gamzello said:
Either this person is a cheater or they got the stuff legit.I have some huge concern over this player on PS4 who apparently knew where everyone was even when players were extremely nearby. I find it extremely odd?
Why I’m concerned:
- This player was rank 19 but had all level 3 for good perks such as ruin and surveillance.
- They had BBQ & Chili but it just seemed so odd how they always found someone even when they were nearby? (Not further than 40 meters which seemed very odd to me)
- This person always found someone immediately every single time. Even when people were healing up (they didn’t have nurses calling)
- The last guy went in the locker but there wasn’t any blood on the floor and he didn’t rush into it. As soon as the Feng Min got hooked he went up and found the person in the locker immediately. But aren’t auras supposed to be hidden for EVERYONE not just survivors?
I could be getting my information wrong but this seems way too concerning and I don’t wanna false report someone.
@Gamzello said:
Either this person is a cheater or they got the stuff legit.I have some huge concern over this player on PS4 who apparently knew where everyone was even when players were extremely nearby. I find it extremely odd?
Why I’m concerned:
- This player was rank 19 but had all level 3 for good perks such as ruin and surveillance.
- They had BBQ & Chili but it just seemed so odd how they always found someone even when they were nearby? (Not further than 40 meters which seemed very odd to me)
- This person always found someone immediately every single time. Even when people were healing up (they didn’t have nurses calling)
- The last guy went in the locker but there wasn’t any blood on the floor and he didn’t rush into it. As soon as the Feng Min got hooked he went up and found the person in the locker immediately. But aren’t auras supposed to be hidden for EVERYONE not just survivors?
I could be getting my information wrong but this seems way too concerning and I don’t wanna false report someone.
Smurf account, Do you have any video proof? of he found you in the locker? I think the locker model didn't load on his screen and he see you on it (that happend to me once time as killer) or he just simply using wallhack.
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@Ray_Penber said:
I literally cannot hit the skill check. I have no trouble with great skill checks, but decisive strike (despite having a bigger hit zone) I just can't master. Very frustrating having a perk I can't use.
Any tips from people besides getting gud because I already tried that?Hey bro that's normal when I started run ds I SUCK AT THAT SKILLCHECK but with the time it will be easy, I stil can't make the skillcheck with unnerving presence..
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@Vietfox said:
"don't run DS" comments incoming.Lmao, *From killer mains
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The counter is to git gud.
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@Broosmeister said:
Sitting in a game now with 2 survivors in an exit gate. I refuse to go and push them out. I'm not going to give them the satisfaction of T-bagging me. I'm just listening to music right now, and also watching some Youtube vids. I don't mind that they waste their own time. This has been going on for like 30 minutes now, and i have a feeling that it will take even more time.Can i report the 2 people for holding the game hostage since they are the ones refusing to leave?
@Broosmeister said:
Sitting in a game now with 2 survivors in an exit gate. I refuse to go and push them out. I'm not going to give them the satisfaction of T-bagging me. I'm just listening to music right now, and also watching some Youtube vids. I don't mind that they waste their own time. This has been going on for like 30 minutes now, and i have a feeling that it will take even more time.Can i report the 2 people for holding the game hostage since they are the ones refusing to leave?
You should hit all them.. If spam the crouch key piss you, you have serious mental problems with the ctrl key.
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That's the lag
The only broken hitboxes are the freddy's, nurse's when she blink and the huntress hatchet, thanks god they are adding dedicated server, it will require skill to play huntress
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@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
Making survivors more than skins
In this post we'll explore some possibilities in trying to make characters more than just skins!
As we'll try to make it require the least amount of labour possible, we'll generally use themes that we're already familiar with, by looking at certain perks and teach-ables, sometimes requiring a minor adjustment!The buffs are deliberately small as so that they won't conflict too much with the current balance-state of the game, yet adding REAL CHARACTER to each individual survivor as provided by their tiny unique buff.
Survivors

Dwight
Your teammates perform actions 2% faster when within an 8 meter range.

Meg
You recover from exhaustion 10% faster.

Claudette
Your healing-speed is increased by 5%

Jake
You can sabotage at 20% the speed without perks, items or add-ons. Your breathing in general is reduced by 10%.

Nea
The stun you receive when falling is halved. Your walking speed is increased by 5%.

Bill
You gain 20% extra repair speed when being the last alive.

David K.
When surviving the trial, gain +3% extra blood-points for every survivor alive and not-hooked by the time you exit. Your grunts of pain are reduced by 10%

Laurie
Your action speed is increased by 2% when you're the obsession.

Ace
You have +3% luck. When opening a chest for the first time, find 2 of the same items (with add-ons possibly).

Feng
The size of your skillchecks is increased by 30%

Quentin
You can see chests within 20 meters of range. You open exit gates 15% faster (3 seconds)

David T.
You cleanse totems 12% quicker. Totems that you've touched reveal their aura to you until they are destroyed.

Kate
Your wiggle effects are increased by 50%. Your scratch-marks disappear 0.75 seconds quicker.

Adam
You have a 15% increased chance of triggering skill-checks when healing survivors while healthy.

Jeff
Your action-speed is increased by 2% when there are no teammates within 28 meters of range.
End Note
What do you guys think?
Do you want to see survivors becoming more than just a skin?
Do you want the buffs to be minor as is the philosophy in this thread?
Do you agree with the theme for each survivor behind the buff?
Do you agree with the numbers within that theme; Do they need decreasing/increasing?Let me know down below! If you have your own suggestions, leave them down below! Make sure to split your own version per survivor in a separate comment so that we can individually vote them if necessary.
Thank you for reading!
*Quentin should recover from exhaustion since he's vigil perk
*Meg Her sprint perks cooldown should decrease
*Laurie increases your speed in a 2% Increases your chance to be the obsession.
*Nea your crouch speed is increase in 20%
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@Kurisataru said:
Yells in potato
BUT SURVIVROS R 42 OP LOOPS PALETTES CLAUDETTES DECISIVE TEABAGGING SWF HAVE TO CAMP THEM HOW DARE THEY RECOVER FROM EXHAUSTION WHILE RUNNING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EXHAUSTED I WILL CAMP EVEERYONE WITH VIGIL NOWGood idea though, I'd love it.
You make laugh XDD, if killers main see this post they are just gonna cry..
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@Master said:
@Arroz said:
@Swiftblade131 said:
Because 8/10 games, when I play solo survivor, not only are my teammates complete dimwits, but half the time, I end up in the game with 3 or 2 people. Then there is the issue of people rage quitting, regardless if all 4 made it or not.
Hit --> DC
Hooked --> DC
Downed --> DC
A failed skill check --> DC
Certain killer --> DC
Can we just not?When I am with friends, this is less likely to happen and the game is more fun. That is my problem currently when trying to play survivor.
I dont like to play solo survivor BECAUSE I GET MATCHED WITH POTATOES, I got [BAD WORD] chased for 3 gens and they let me die in the hook.. for this is play in swf I know it's a little bit unbalanced but it's the only wait to dont die in the hook and get some fun.
Thats the ranking systems fault. The whole community cried about easier pips, im talkign both sides here, so everybody can reach rank 1 easily now
Personally i reach more easy rank 1 with killer than survivor because are common things that killers should do (Break pallets, find survivors, hook and chase) But as survivor it's more hard because if you get chased for 5 gens you only get 1 pip... I supossed those survivor got in rank 1 for repair, break totems and escape?..
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@ClogWench said:
Since when is flashlight luck?If the killer is not in a wall

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@Khroalthemadbomber said:
Were you using a toolbox? That greatly increases your chances of getting a skill-check. Also Ruin is part of why I run Stake Out. Basically nullifies Ruin particularly on Meat Plant because you're generally going to be in the killer's terror radius a good chunk of the time due to the two floors.Hey! thanks for the build idea gonna unlock stake out and get it in my quentin
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@TheWraith883 said:
They keep pushing updates that help the survivors because the developers are cowards and don't want the four survivors to be sad. I wish they could understand how we struggle but they really don't care they only want the majority of the players to keep playing (by majority I mean survivors because this game has more survivors the killers)
by the way, they also increased leader to have 15% more speed.I don't think I'm going to play this game anymore I had enough.
Yeah. Just leave this game damn your the typical killer main who want to he's side be stronger..
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Let's just not give points of sacrifice is the killer is camping...
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@kamisen said:
As mentioned in the title, I've been playing a few weeks. Pushed the game to a few of my friends. LOVE the core concept. However, as I climbed the ranking scale, the survivors became more and more toxic. In addition to glitching, body blocking, third-party software, looping and disconnecting, the players are nasty in their communication. There have been numerous instances of (close to) bullying in the post-game chat. I desperately need an option where I (a) can play in non-ranked games - just for fun - without the current matching system in place (it doesn't work anyway as teams always seem to have a low-ranked friend in their party and my rank climbs too fast). Or (b) an option to not play against/with teams. Additionally, are there any countermeasures from the developers' side? What happens with the reports etc.?How are them glitching, third party software like discord are allowed.. What's wrong with looping do you want to survivor run in a straight line? that's the only thing that survivors can do loop.. or infinite.. Bodyblocking is allowed like camping and dribbling is
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Because 8/10 games, when I play solo survivor, not only are my teammates complete dimwits, but half the time, I end up in the game with 3 or 2 people. Then there is the issue of people rage quitting, regardless if all 4 made it or not.
Hit --> DC
Hooked --> DC
Downed --> DC
A failed skill check --> DC
Certain killer --> DC
Can we just not?When I am with friends, this is less likely to happen and the game is more fun. That is my problem currently when trying to play survivor.
I dont like to play solo survivor BECAUSE I GET MATCHED WITH POTATOES, I got ######### chased for 3 gens and they let me die in the hook.. for this is play in swf I know it's a little bit unbalanced but it's the only wait to dont die in the hook and get some fun.
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We should get a licensed killer!

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@JoannaVO said:
Arroz said:@Theluckyboi said:
@Arroz said:
@Theluckyboi said:
@Arroz said:
@JoannaVO said:
You find it funny until you go against a optimal SWF team on comms
Uhm? Cof Cof 5 blinks nurse Cof Cof Ebony mori.. Insta down hatchets/clown bottles COF COF NOED!?
Are you seriously comparing SWF to broken add-ons?
Instadown addons are available all the game like DS oh and why you didn't answered me in this discussion by calling me survivor main
? You only answer what suits you, huh? https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/293215#Comment_293215Nice, thanks for deliberately changing the conversation yeah you simply cant imply i should use instadown and broken add-ons to counter DS and SWF every one of my games because that is boring for both sides.
you are extremely survivor biased, sorry, i dont care if you are a rank one trapper with legacy and bloody coil, if you still dont play survivor and killer equally you should keep your opinion about the game to yourself unless you want real balance, not just your side being stronger
I am 60 survivor/40 killer I know how this game work, killers dont want to their perks/addons get touched and they want to survivors items/perks all of the meta get nerfed, I've seen more survivors admitting that DS is op tha killers saying that IH is op.
You clearly aren't a killer from the red ranks else you'd understand why killers say certain things.
Uhm?

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@Zarathos said:
Arroz said:@Zarathos said:
You wanna counter DS sure plenty of perks out there.But you wanna punish ds players. slug'em with knockout make sure their not in a swf. Leave em to die on the ground. Did it to a laurie once she spent 75% of the game on the ground. She crawled up to a hook for me later on she learned her lesson and then she was able to play the game again. Condition these animals killers if the dev's don't want to fix the perk then its up to us the killers to fix the players who use it.
I dont care about if someone let me die in the floor, im just gonna move on and find other game, btw it's your time and they can rush you.
You don't need to camp the slugged. Thats the point of knock out. Down em and continue hunting. A slugged player can't do gens and is often better then eating a ds in a lot of circumstances. You can camp a downed survivour without knockout its just really boring and they can easily get up if you leave em as the team will have no issue finding them from across the map.
@Zarathos said:
Arroz said:@Zarathos said:
You wanna counter DS sure plenty of perks out there.But you wanna punish ds players. slug'em with knockout make sure their not in a swf. Leave em to die on the ground. Did it to a laurie once she spent 75% of the game on the ground. She crawled up to a hook for me later on she learned her lesson and then she was able to play the game again. Condition these animals killers if the dev's don't want to fix the perk then its up to us the killers to fix the players who use it.
I dont care about if someone let me die in the floor, im just gonna move on and find other game, btw it's your time and they can rush you.
You don't need to camp the slugged. Thats the point of knock out. Down em and continue hunting. A slugged player can't do gens and is often better then eating a ds in a lot of circumstances. You can camp a downed survivour without knockout its just really boring and they can easily get up if you leave em as the team will have no issue finding them from across the map.
That dont work against swf but im never gonna do that, that's just boring for me, sit and camp the guy who is the floor? and the other 3 escaped.. I know it give a lesson to ds players but I just dont care about if I get Dstriked If I lose the match is because I suck and I move on and find another game.
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@Theluckyboi said:
@Arroz said:
Instadown addons are available all the game like DS oh and why you didn't answered me in this discussion by calling me survivor main
? You only answer what suits you, huh? https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/293215#Comment_293215Nice, thanks for deliberately changing the conversation
yeah you simply cant imply i should use instadown and broken add-ons to counter DS and SWF every one of my games because that is boring for both sides.
you are extremely survivor biased, sorry, i dont care if you are a rank one trapper with legacy and bloody coil, if you still dont play survivor and killer equally you should keep your opinion about the game to yourself unless you want real balance, not just your side being stronger
I am 60 survivor/40 killer I know how this game work, killers dont want to their perks/addons get touched and they want to survivors items/perks all of the meta get nerfed, I've seen more survivors admitting that DS is op tha killers saying that IH is op.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Arroz said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Arroz said:
@weirdkid5 said:
Whispers doesn't always help against really stealthy survivors, I can tell when a Killer is using it and change my strategy accordingly by remaining on the move. You guys shoulda played more MGS. You shouldn't be required to use a perk to fix ######### game design anyway.That's BHVR's philosophy honestly. If it's #########, just make a perk to "fix" the problem rather than actually fixing it.
Whisper + Stridor...
Yeah that sounds totally viable when killers who want to be able to end chases need bamboozle and BBQ for purple addons already, ruin taking the third slot. How about just not being toxic and leaving the [BAD WORD] game even if the killer was toxic.
Im not toxic. You just need to sacrifice a slot and stop crying in forum about you got teabagged.. Typical on freddy mains.
staying hidden after both gates are open to waste time nad hold the killer hostage is a bannable offense, end of story.
Yeah, I remember of one pig close me for all the match and I reported she.. I dont know why surv do that, when the exit gate is open I wait for my friends and move on to other game.. It's just stupid
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@Warlock_2020 said:
@weirdkid5 said:
Arroz said:@se05239 said:
Trust me, they're not dodging because of you. There's three other survivors in the lobby with you, remember?
Okay, But when i need to sabotage some hooks for a ritual they dodge me because I have a toolbox.. U srsly?
And yes, with most people with I get matched are p3 claudette.. but that's not my fault... I just want to play and they dodge.. I think it's time to play on swf and change character at 6 seconds
Yeah if you last second swapped on me I'm alt-tabbing before the countdown finishes. Not gonna let anyone get away with that bullshit
Seriously, don't ever come crying about anyone DC'ing, or gen rushing, etc. You want an easy game, and that is all there is to it. I played 27 killer matches this past week and 6 survivor matches. I dodged zero, faced roughly 25 swf's of 2 or more. Got dodged easily a dozen times.
If you load up toolboxes, I load up franklin's. Easy fix.
Agree with you, these killer main (the 60%) want a easy game 4k..
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@Poweas said:
@MegaWaffle said:
@fluffybunny said:
Do they think generators can run and therefore be tunneled? Do they think generators are secretly players, too?First off much like my refrigerator generators do run and secondly after seeing this I'm pretty sure generators are characters.


I love that. That is amazing.
@Poweas said:
@MegaWaffle said:
@fluffybunny said:
Do they think generators can run and therefore be tunneled? Do they think generators are secretly players, too?First off much like my refrigerator generators do run and secondly after seeing this I'm pretty sure generators are characters.


I love that. That is amazing.
But where is daddy quentin >:c?
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@Okapi said:
Yes the Nurse is broken and should be reworked. Yet all those things you listed need to be unlocked through bloodwebs using Bloodpoints. Stuff like Ebony Moris aren't exactly common. You have to grind to get them.
SWF with voice coms is available from the start. It requires no blood points or grind to unlock. Best of all it provides all the survivor aura perks for FREE! This frees up perk slots for other more meta perks like DC, BT, SC, etc.
Agree with you.
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Instadown addons are available all the game like DS oh and why you didn't answered me in this discussion by calling me survivor main
? You only answer what suits you, huh? https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/293215#Comment_293215 -
@Zarathos said:
You wanna counter DS sure plenty of perks out there.But you wanna punish ds players. slug'em with knockout make sure their not in a swf. Leave em to die on the ground. Did it to a laurie once she spent 75% of the game on the ground. She crawled up to a hook for me later on she learned her lesson and then she was able to play the game again. Condition these animals killers if the dev's don't want to fix the perk then its up to us the killers to fix the players who use it.I dont care about if someone let me die in the floor, im just gonna move on and find other game, btw it's your time and they can rush you.
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@JoannaVO said:
You find it funny until you go against a optimal SWF team on commsUhm? Cof Cof 5 blinks nurse Cof Cof Ebony mori.. Insta down hatchets/clown bottles COF COF NOED!?
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@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@Arroz said:
@Master said:
@Poweas said:
Honestly, camping isn't all that bad. Tunnelling is the problem. And the logic some people on this forum have said baffles me. One time someone said to me when a killer breaks a gen and you go back on it that's 'tunnelling a gen'. The equivalent to tunnelling is teabagging. Looping and camping are part of the gameJust like tunneling is part of the game.
Face it, its simply the time efficient solution to focus down on one survivor.Tbagging has no gameplay impact btw, its just toxic
Decisive strike, adrenaline, insta heals are part of the game. Face it.
Oof that one was a good one. Don't forget Self care. Even though it's weak af, killers still think it needs a desperate nerf.
It's so weak, it's only the most used perk on either side, and has been since the game's release.
Almost half a gens time to heal yourself. It's why genrush is so prevalent right now, because it got nerfed. That's just the truth. It might be overused as hell still but it's not efficient.
Agree, and I still see post about he got genrushed and inmediately come to the forum and cry about how he suck.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Arroz said:
@weirdkid5 said:
Whispers doesn't always help against really stealthy survivors, I can tell when a Killer is using it and change my strategy accordingly by remaining on the move. You guys shoulda played more MGS. You shouldn't be required to use a perk to fix ######### game design anyway.That's BHVR's philosophy honestly. If it's #########, just make a perk to "fix" the problem rather than actually fixing it.
Whisper + Stridor...
Yeah that sounds totally viable when killers who want to be able to end chases need bamboozle and BBQ for purple addons already, ruin taking the third slot. How about just not being toxic and leaving the [BAD WORD] game even if the killer was toxic.
Im not toxic. You just need to sacrifice a slot and stop crying in forum about you got teabagged.. Typical on freddy mains.
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@NoShinyPony said:
@Arroz said:
@NoShinyPony said:
Most killers don't care about what survs are wearing (as long as it's not invisible Claudette), it's about items and SWF.Maybe you just had bad luck and got matched with other survs who wanted to bring lots of items into the game. Or another surv had a super bad ping.
I play solo surv without items on highrank daily and I don't come across those amount of problems.
I only equip medkit for heal faster or toolboxes for a ritual.. because I suck with flashlight's and i still get dodge.. But the people who i get matched EQUIP A LOT OF THINGS..
The killer doesn't know that you bring the toolbox for a sabotage daily and not for gens.
The killer doesn't know that it's a "normal" medkit and not an insta-heal.If a killer sees these items in a lobby, they always have to calculate whether they could handle x insta-heals and so on, because usually these items are not for sabo dailies and insta-heals are super common.
If the killer wants to play nurse, then they might accept a certain lobby while another killer who wants to play Freddy has to dodge.
I just dont care if someone join my lobby with 4 medkits I just enjoy the game And if I lose I move on and play another, are you serious.. Killer are scared of a ######### toolbox? Just bring franklin's demise damn
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@ForeheadSurviors said:
4 non p3 survivors with default cosmetics come into the lobby * killer immediately readys*1 default dwight and 3 baby megs come into the lobby *killers inmediately readys
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@Countfunkular said:
I hate to say something that you probably already know but killers that see prestige level three anything will immediately think okay this person knows what they're doing.If they see a prestige level any character that you can buy a Cosmetics for and then they become a little worried. Due to the fact that they believe not everybody can be that broke
I think im just gonna use cosmetics.. but the problem is the players i get matched, they are ######### p3 claudette's with coldwind offering..
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@Rebel_Raven said:
Arroz said:@Rebel_Raven said:
Arroz said:
@KissyKissy said: This is a consequence of survivors being dicks and the Dev's not giving killers the tools for counterplay to common second chance tactics. If survivors dont want to be dodged, stop being dicks and Dev's fix your game.
@KissyKissy said:
This is a consequence of survivors being dicks and the Dev's not giving killers the tools for counterplay to common second chance tactics. If survivors dont want to be dodged, stop being dicks and Dev's fix your game. All this shows your ignorance to generalize, I've never been a dick with the killers, even when the killer could not do anything I give him points to at least take something .. Oh and you do not read the patch notes? How do killers have no tools to play against a swf? Iridiscent head, Judith's tombstone, Infinite EW3, Frank's mixtape, Clown Instadown bottles and ebony mori ...? Survivor only have Decisive Strike, Adrenaline, Unbreakable, exhaustion perk (That are crap now), Instaheals and purple toolboxes..? that you're blind and do not know how to read patch notes is something else :) Killers are getting a lot of buff's and they still refuse to play against people with flashlight's.. You do notice that every killer solution you listed is a one time use, expensive item that can only be gotten at random, right?
I don't have many, or any of a lot of that, personally.
Meanwhile your survivors list includes perks that can be used many times, and stuff they keep if they eacape the trial. Not all items listed but most. And for an example, Why on earth would I want to vs some dick that will flashlight blind me at every pallet? Especially when I don't even have lightborn as a teachable?
I mean I don't really dodge flashlights. Only thing I don't want to face is an SWF.
Hmm, winter solstice boxes give me 30 ebony moris on my legion and 27 iridiscent hatche's on my huntress
Iridiscent hatchet is like ds they can be used in all the game.. Killers have noed too.. DS can be used 1 time, Adrenaline can be used 1 time, Unbreakable can be used 1 time.. Exhaustion perks can be used all the game (like make your choice or discordance), survivor items can be countered if you equip franklin's demise or overwhelming presence.. So why you chase all the game the guy with the flashlight? If you never want a face to a swf you will never learn from your mistakes and you will be a killer baby
so I thought before.And I played through winter solstice. I didn't get ######### from those boxes.
Like I said, I lack, or don't have a lot of those things.
Iridescent heads are one time use items.And let's see how long your supply lasts when you use them for every game.
It looks different when you stockpile them, and use bloodpoints from matches with other characters.DS, and the rest can be used once in every match with no upkeep costs.
Imagine if Adrenaline or DS was an ultra rare 7k blood point offering instead of a perk?Guess what? I don't have overwhelming presence, or Franklin's as teachable. Your advice is useless.
Ok so you don't chase the guy with a flashlight every trial. What happens when there's 2, 3 or 4 people doing that tactic, and you don't have Franklin's or Overwhelming presence?
Nice jab at my ego. Lol. I don't really give a damn what you think about me.
I'll especially dodge your ass if I see you. Lawl enjoy the longer lobby wait times.You just dodging for a easy prey because you can't even kill that default dwight, if you dont want to face people of know how to use a flashlight just depip to rank 20.. Adrenaline is not op.. It's a meta perk Yes but it's not op, DS yes is op.. DS and noed should get removed they need to balance some survivor things and some killers addons (Like iridiscent hatchets) The problem is not the huntress ultrare addon, the problem is THE BROKEN HITBOXES.. because huntress hatchet are ez to counter but the hitbox is a ######### #########.
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@Rebel_Raven said:
Arroz said:@Rebel_Raven said:
Arroz said:
@KissyKissy said: This is a consequence of survivors being dicks and the Dev's not giving killers the tools for counterplay to common second chance tactics. If survivors dont want to be dodged, stop being dicks and Dev's fix your game.
@KissyKissy said:
This is a consequence of survivors being dicks and the Dev's not giving killers the tools for counterplay to common second chance tactics. If survivors dont want to be dodged, stop being dicks and Dev's fix your game. All this shows your ignorance to generalize, I've never been a dick with the killers, even when the killer could not do anything I give him points to at least take something .. Oh and you do not read the patch notes? How do killers have no tools to play against a swf? Iridiscent head, Judith's tombstone, Infinite EW3, Frank's mixtape, Clown Instadown bottles and ebony mori ...? Survivor only have Decisive Strike, Adrenaline, Unbreakable, exhaustion perk (That are crap now), Instaheals and purple toolboxes..? that you're blind and do not know how to read patch notes is something else :) Killers are getting a lot of buff's and they still refuse to play against people with flashlight's.. You do notice that every killer solution you listed is a one time use, expensive item that can only be gotten at random, right?
I don't have many, or any of a lot of that, personally.
Meanwhile your survivors list includes perks that can be used many times, and stuff they keep if they eacape the trial. Not all items listed but most. And for an example, Why on earth would I want to vs some dick that will flashlight blind me at every pallet? Especially when I don't even have lightborn as a teachable?
I mean I don't really dodge flashlights. Only thing I don't want to face is an SWF.
Hmm, winter solstice boxes give me 30 ebony moris on my legion and 27 iridiscent hatche's on my huntress
Iridiscent hatchet is like ds they can be used in all the game.. Killers have noed too.. DS can be used 1 time, Adrenaline can be used 1 time, Unbreakable can be used 1 time.. Exhaustion perks can be used all the game (like make your choice or discordance), survivor items can be countered if you equip franklin's demise or overwhelming presence.. So why you chase all the game the guy with the flashlight? If you never want a face to a swf you will never learn from your mistakes and you will be a killer baby
so I thought before.And I played through winter solstice. I didn't get ######### from those boxes.
Like I said, I lack, or don't have a lot of those things.
Iridescent heads are one time use items.And let's see how long your supply lasts when you use them for every game.
It looks different when you stockpile them, and use bloodpoints from matches with other characters.DS, and the rest can be used once in every match with no upkeep costs.
Imagine if Adrenaline or DS was an ultra rare 7k blood point offering instead of a perk?Guess what? I don't have overwhelming presence, or Franklin's as teachable. Your advice is useless.
Ok so you don't chase the guy with a flashlight every trial. What happens when there's 2, 3 or 4 people doing that tactic, and you don't have Franklin's or Overwhelming presence?
Nice jab at my ego. Lol. I don't really give a damn what you think about me.
I'll especially dodge your ass if I see you. Lawl enjoy the longer lobby wait times.Potato killer detected, for this the game is dying, I think it's time to move to last year
, It's not my problem if you dont have that perks as teachable, it's your problem so dont complain about flashlight, they can be easy countered, just look at the wall or scare the flashlight guy and pick em up.. -
@HawkAyeTheNoo said:
Simple answer, p3 means an experienced player, you know the game. A lot of killers want to face potatos. The challenge of p3s is to much for them so they dodge looking for that easy prey.But most p3 players are potato, lmao
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@Rebel_Raven said:
Arroz said:@KissyKissy said:
This is a consequence of survivors being dicks and the Dev's not giving killers the tools for counterplay to common second chance tactics. If survivors dont want to be dodged, stop being dicks and Dev's fix your game.
@KissyKissy said:
This is a consequence of survivors being dicks and the Dev's not giving killers the tools for counterplay to common second chance tactics. If survivors dont want to be dodged, stop being dicks and Dev's fix your game.
All this shows your ignorance to generalize, I've never been a dick with the killers, even when the killer could not do anything I give him points to at least take something .. Oh and you do not read the patch notes? How do killers have no tools to play against a swf? Iridiscent head, Judith's tombstone, Infinite EW3, Frank's mixtape, Clown Instadown bottles and ebony mori ...? Survivor only have Decisive Strike, Adrenaline, Unbreakable, exhaustion perk (That are crap now), Instaheals and purple toolboxes..? that you're blind and do not know how to read patch notes is something else
Killers are getting a lot of buff's and they still refuse to play against people with flashlight's..You do notice that every killer solution you listed is a one time use, expensive item that can only be gotten at random, right?
I don't have many, or any of a lot of that, personally.Meanwhile your survivors list includes perks that can be used many times, and stuff they keep if they eacape the trial. Not all items listed but most.
And for an example, Why on earth would I want to vs some dick that will flashlight blind me at every pallet? Especially when I don't even have lightborn as a teachable?
I mean I don't really dodge flashlights. Only thing I don't want to face is an SWF.Hmm, winter solstice boxes give me 30 ebony moris on my legion and 27 iridiscent hatche's on my huntress
Iridiscent hatchet is like ds they can be used in all the game.. Killers have noed too.. DS can be used 1 time, Adrenaline can be used 1 time, Unbreakable can be used 1 time.. Exhaustion perks can be used all the game (like make your choice or discordance), survivor items can be countered if you equip franklin's demise or overwhelming presence.. So why you chase all the game the guy with the flashlight? If you never want a face to a swf you will never learn from your mistakes and you will be a killer baby
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@Yamaoka said:
Arroz saidI dont care, im not gonna wait 20 minutes to find a [BAD WORD] lobby, I just want to play for this I pay money for get fun and not a waiting simulator..
Killers pay money for fun as well and playing against a sweaty SWF team is not fun at all. I've just finished a game against a full SWF team. All of them had decisive, instaheal, prove thyself and obviously voice communication. Everytime I turned my back on a gen they were on it. My setup was casual. Just perks for bloodpoints (bbq, distressing, thrill of the hunt, devoured hope). Even though I still beat all of them after losing 4 gens in like 3 minutes (thank god I played Billy) WITHOUT tunneling or camping they still messaged me how bad I am.
I will definitely not play against a full SWF team again. I don't mind losing but playing against those sweaty guys who try to belittle and insult you as often as possible is not how I want to spend my spare time.
Most killers (100 hours+) just only want ez 4k against default baby dwight, but dodge it's a really bad problem because it dont let you play the game, and the killer of want to play have 400 ms.. (Thanks god they are gonna add dedicated server) Oh and that's the typical swf build, maybe last time was a huntress with crutch perks and addons or a EW3 infinite myers
? The game is so unbalanced in both side. But I Destroyed some swf with instaheals, instaflashlights, 4 ds.. (Rank 1 Btw), If I get destroyed by a swf I move one and find another game And when a swf comes in my lobby I learn from my mistakes to improve in the future and be able to defeat them
Oh and If I see a swf with 4 toolboxes I equip overwhelming presence and discordance with billy, really good build against rushers.