AVoiceOfReason

@MaybeShesCrazy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1496126#Comment_1496126
Ah the english language - got to hate it - as when I read the OP's post - I don't see it as advocating for toxic but rather calling it all as it is.
I get what you're saying too. I currently only play survivor. (I have tried killer though.) I've been in enough games to watch the crappy things that happen to killers to to be able to understand both too.
This is where toxic is sooo subjective. What some see as toxic - others see as a game style. You see camping as toxic - I see cheating sandbagging, working with the killer against your teammates etc as toxic. The rest - game play style.
You want a pip and have fun - I get it. I just want the latter. If you want both it's going to mean a lot of practise. (Hard to do when you're dead 10 seconds into game - yup I understand.) Last week I had like 10 games back to back that were horrid. I was dead without being able to do much. Tossed me back three levels (I'm okay with that though) but zero were any fun at all.
Before I talk about the next part, let me first preface it with - I suck - particularly at chases. I work on that every chance I get in game.
Bare with me for a sec on this next part please:
When in a team - we're supposed to be a team.
Camping and tunneling both have counterplays - both reply on your team. If you have team members that don't care about their teammates - it is going to be a crappy game. Full stop. Not the killers fault. (Although in saying that I don't think camping and tunnelling is a nice way to play, or fun - especially when new and learning - but I can't argue that it's not a play style either.)
If you are being camped / tunneled Your teammates should be trying to grab you and distracting the killer. It's on them if they leave you to die. That's the part that sucks as you never know who you get as a mate.
As I've gotten a bit better I have good days where I will rush the killer who is camping a teammate and try to draw them away. If I'm lucky, I'll last just long enough for my teammate to be unhooked before I'm hooked. If I see another teammate as well going for you - I get close and watch to see what they are trying to do. If I see they are going to try and unhook you - again - I try to run the killer. If they are trying to run the killer then I wait and I unhook you. (Hopefully the third teammate has stayed on the gens.)
Solo it's hard as you have to try to read your teammates.
Do I think Camping and tunnelling is fun - not at all - I hate it. When I get better - if I ever get better - I might enjoy the challenge. As a new player - I feel you as our skills are a bit low for that kind of advanced play and it does suck. :-(
Any of that make sense?
If you are new - perhaps you are better doing what I am. Not worry about pips and work on improving skills. It's not an easy game and it will take us time to better ourselves.

When I initially played, I use to hide in lockers and use to throw pallets down immediately before being face camped for the rest of the match. It took me awhile to learn how to loop. Once I learned, face camping was rewarded less and less. The fear of dying is a good motivator to get better. They even have a KYFs to practice with your friends. This game will never be perfect. Neither side will be 100% happy.

What I always tell my friends is, killer isn't the one that I'm fearful of. Its my teammates because they might crouch all game and do nothing or they might get caught instantly and suicide or my favorite, unhook me in front of the killer without BT then not even try to protect me xD There's a reason people say they're leaving then come back. It's balanced yet people want to always win so it doesn't seem it. A perfect balance will always shaft both sides.