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Every survivor
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Killers every trial: Ruin, Pop, Tinkerer, Undying.
The other side of the coin.
Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying Ruin Undying
Every Killer
Every Trial
Bothsides: ITS REQUIRED!
There fun perks people like them
Small pp is meta bud.
Ruin and Undying are usually gone in a minute. Dead Hard and Iron Will last the entire trial with no counters
Borrowed time is more annoying to me.
How about you stop judging people let them run the perks the perks they want
Dead By Daylight is a pvp game and like every other pvp game, people will flock towards the strongest things that give them a best chance at winning.
It's really not rocket science.
They are kind of good. I don't blame people for running them, but BHVR does need to balance them a bit better.
Even since the nerf? Literally count to 12 (assuming it’s tier 3). Lots of situations 12 seconds isn’t nearly enough to get somewhere safe. Yes it can still make or break it for some saves but I almost never use it after the change. Practically a waste of a perk slot.
I saw someone suggested Iron will should only mute after out of chase for 10sec. So its more like a hiding tool. Rather than suddenly disappear.
It should replace grunting with breathing too
I don't wanna have to count in those situations. The annoying part of it is how it can basically be abused. It's meant to protect unhooked survivors from being downed instantly but unhooked survivors can just bodyblock or run towards the killer. And because it's used so often it's becomes nearly a rule that you shouldn't attack an unhooked survivor for a little while after they got unhooked. DS is fine though.
12 seconds is still an extremely long time. You can move 48 meters in 12 seconds and that's MORE than enough space to find a loop.
Borrowed Time waste of a perk slot..?
Easily in Top 3 best and game changing survivor perks. I'd say is the best.
And a lot of times you can't do nothing about it as killer.
Killer: Yes, because of the way the core game is designed
Survivor: Yes but no. Yes because of how killer's play, but it doesn't matter. If your good at survivor, you really don't need meta perks.
Iron Hard Dead Will.
I'll do it anyway as punishment for using the perk >:(
BT did not get nerf the perk got a massive buff and the only trade off is 3 sec. Before you could bypass the perk with a stealth killer not anymore
Dead hard and Iron Will are a bailout from failure and a remover of consequences for failure, in that order. Ruin, Undying, and Pop are not.
lol why even complain about iron will? just follow scratch marks and blood bruh
Right, but you have a huge number of people on this forum who claim that dead hard is whatever….. and then 3/4 survivors use it. Cognitive dissonance.
Of course. Why use your brain trying other perks when these two exist and give you free distance in chase with 0 effort?
This. Of coarse people run meta perks like #########?
@OP I actually don't run Iron Will. It's boring and doesn't help me get chased. The only perks you are guaranteed to see me use is Dead Hard and Borrowed Time. The other 2 perks are what ever the hell I feel like.
What if the person with BT bodyblocks me?
Dead hard I only use when doing tome challenges for specific ones while iron will is kind of required with some survivor characters are needed because they are loud as fk when hurt
That's a bronze level build.
It wasn’t that long ago it was 20 seconds then 15 etc.. 8 seconds is significant when seconds matter. Yesterday alone while running DS I got picked up at literally 61 seconds two games back to back.. People with BT tend to think it’s okay to rush in for saves when being patient and waiting for the killer to leave is much for reasonable.. one of the biggest reasons why I think it’s a waste is that plenty of situations where a BT hit happens it could have been avoided altogether.. other times you can literally walk to a window or pallet assuming there is one and block it off from a survivor. If I hook a survivor close to an exit gate then sure BT will save them because I screwed up but if they have DS it won’t matter anyway.. coordinated body blocking is just as effective and you don’t need a perk slot for it. Obviously BT and basement can be a saving grace unless it’s a good huntress or something. Trickster might as well be Bubba because BT won’t be saving you in almost any scenario.
Except they actually need those perks to play. Full stop.
It's a very low-skill high reward perk combo, that. Can't hear or hit the survivors because no sound plus i-frames. Imagine killers having the same.
Hmm.. I don’t think I’ve seen any bronze Blights yet though..
DBD Players shocked to find out that players prefer stronger perks over weaker ones.
Welcome to the dbd meta
Ruin Undying is NOTHING compared to meta Survivor perks.
Argueable. I would say iron will and maybe dead hard are the only truely busted survivor perks.
I think Dying Light needs a buff :)
Waste of a perk slot? Oh lawd almighty. And people wonder why Behavior balances the way they do.
Ruin, pop, ruin, pop, ruin, pop
Every killer
Every trial
Well yes.. otherwise I can can’t fit in “Up the Ante”…
This isn't small pp. The old small pp was DS and Unbreakable before the DS nerf.
Oh no. Survivors use good Perks. hopefully all those Killers with their Meme-Perks still have an enjoyable game...
Iron Dead Hard Will.
No, they don't need those perks.
DH is strong, but SB is stronger. Only reason survivors use dh instead of sb is because it is a fun perk. And only reason killers find it op or obnoxious is because they see it too frequently, and because when survivor uses it in the killer's face, they feel they've been robbed a hit/down.
Ruin, undying, pop, corrupt are a bailout from failure to pressure gens. What do you mean you can't pressure all gens at once? Get gud.
Literally same argument. Dh is not a bailout, it is a utility perk that supposed to help you in chase.
Imagine survivors using good perks to help them....
Hex:Ruin, NOED, Hex:Ruin, NOED
Every killer
Every trial
Corrupt ruin undying tinkerer Corrupt ruin undying tinkerer Corrupt ruin undying tinkerer Corrupt ruin undying tinkerer
Every killer
Every trial
Im a kindred, bond, windows, DS gamer, so you're welcome!
Well with Boon Totems coming soon.... That might change
They are perks that help while injured... I don't see the problem
I'm a Detective's Hunch, BT, Kindred, Spine Chill gamer... so you're welcome