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@[Deleted User] said:
4 hooks at two gens is not too bad, unless you mean 4 hooks on everyone
4 hooks on everyone since i was using a furtive chase, nemesis build
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@[Deleted User] said:
it's not cheesy it's the game designed that way, becuase pallets will be consumed the longer game goes on and therefore chases shorter and you will have easier generators left to defend with those lack of pallets in the area
a win in the early game as killer is even getting a single hook or several good chases doesn't have to end as a down
but in your situation you shouldn't have won in disturbed ward with no slow down perks, that is impressive work
thank you <3
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@GannTM said:
Yes Spirit is hot
thank you for understanding
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@Northener1907 said:
Where is Nea?
this is killers, entity not included
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@Liam282 said:
Honestly, I just want the team to enjoy pushing themselves with each release. Keeping going outside the box with their designs and over everything else (yes yes i know balance is important) keep it all fun. Even with Nemesis, i'm rubbish but i have great fun with him. In terms of Alien.............gosh its a big ask, Disney owns both Alien & Predator at the moment and I can't imagine the amount of paperwork that would involve. I think its possible of course but just don't over hype it on yourselves!
very wise statement of yours
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who owns predetor again
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@Groxiverde said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2249132#Comment_2249132
No I'm not trolling, I love the Alien franchise. You can literally search my username on Reddit to see that I have an Alien profile picture. Lol.
you do realise that alien is owned by Disney the supreme leader of media
BHVR is going to have to do a lot to get it so sadly as much you want it I would not get my hope up
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@TheStabbiNAngeL said:
Predator
predator
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@Groxiverde said:
I just can't understand how BHVR still didn't get the Alien license. Everyone knows who Alien is (are), It would be a super successful chapter release.
are you trolling
i cant tell
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@DeadHardMan said:
Since Fortnite somehow managed to get the Xenomorph and Ripley, I'd say it's very possible for Behavior to acquire the Alien license. Pennywise is very unlikely however, since Stephen King is adamant about not putting the IP into games.
your right i forgot about Stephan king
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@pedrolito said:
Prevent camping? In wich universe?
More seriously, you just need to hide in a locker when you play survivor. And so many of them play with locker anytime and anywhere except when necessary.
it shows you the farthest survivors
so you won't stick near the the hook
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you also dont like BBQ so I'm scared of what your ideas are for a hag change
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@MadLordJack said:
So, you don't see why someone could be mad about tunneling, facecamping or genrushing?
Tunneling is the killer saying "######### you" to one survivor and making sure they die. Clearly there's a problem there that has nothing to do with efficiency, since even in a hook farming situation it's far more efficient to leave them on the ground.
Facecamping is another one that people insist is efficient, but it's truly not. That's not to say the killer should always leave the area, it's just that I've seen significantly more killers claim that facecamping a survivor in a deadzone with no gens is efficient than anything else.
Gen rushing is one of the scummiest things in DbD. It really is, it's just a full party going "you know what, I don't even want to try". Most of the time they're not even very good in a chase and just predrop pallets, because that's another huge ######### problem in this game. Unlike the other two, in which there are situations where they are the right play, the blame for this rests entirely on the survivors that do it. They are essentially players asking for "free win" buttons and recieving them on silver platters. I guarantee they're also the biggest critics of Spirit, Nurse and Blight, because those are the only three that can make it somewhat difficult.
TLDR: Playing efficiently isn't what people think it is, except genrushing which is also not what people think it is but for a different reason.
i get mad at tunneling too but that is their objective to kill me and that is what the survivor's objective is to do all the gens. face camp is annoying and mainly someone just wants to be an A-hole so I can see why you get mad a the player but for the other 2 things why get mad at the player and throw insults their way. " oh you're trying to win well your trash" doesn't really make sense does it.
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@gendoss said:
BBQ should not be nerfed, it's actually very balanced and promotes good gameplay as you've mentioned. There are some other perks I do believe should be nerfed but don't listen to anyone that says BBQ is too OP.
i don't listen to them but I'm afraid the devs will
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@Aven_Fallen said:
BBQ does not prevent camping. Not at all.
As long as the Killer can camp and still get 4 BBQ-Stacks, BBQ does not prevent anything.
it more makes camping less likely since the killer can see the other surv
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@[Deleted User] said:
I was around when BBQ got released and since then people already complained (and it was fun because Bubba was also quite complained at the time). The perk will stay the way it is for a long time.
i hope
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2243481#Comment_2243481
Maybe not you. But there's plenty of posts from others pretending he's so unusable you can't get a single down. And they'll complete 5 gens and escape with you getting 0 hooks.
I like his power personally. So that's subjective. You also sorta ran yourself in circles. "He needs buffs" but do I really think people will like a stronger trickster ? That's the definition of buffs lol.
But yes nowhere did I say he was strong, OP, and didn't need buffs. I'm just trying to say that he's not nearly as unusable and bad as most people like to make him out to be
i do agree with you that some people overreact about how bad this killer but he is still an extremely bad killer
if you like his power that's good, I'm just saying that a lot of people don't. i do think he needs buffs but what I meant was people probably won't kile going against the trickster when he is strong since people already don't and he's extremely weak. his power I kinda like old legion being extremely spammy
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2243346#Comment_2243346
Basically that...The thing is
I'm someone "defending" him. But nowhere will you see me saying he's strong. I'm saying he's not as bad as people say and he's usuable. If you read most posts about him. They're acting like you can't get a single down with him and that's simply not true.
I put him above Myers, Legion, Trapper, Piggy. And yes you are correct 3 of those are older characters from an older meta. So trickster shouldn't be as weak as them. And should be closer to the newer designed killers. I don't even think he needs a rework.
I think if they slowed main event down to normal throwing rate. But gave unlimited knives(maybe even refilled them) and let you use it when YOU want. So you can basically guarantee a down if you use it correctly. And made you move maybe 4.6 during. On top of increasing his movement speed to just his base of 4.2 while holding knives. He would be just fine and those would make him very good.
im not trying to say he is god awful to the point he is so bad that you can one down with him I'm saying that he is bad and in need of some buffs
the ideas for buffs you have in mind are good but most people hate going against him already you think a stronger version of him will make the surv experience better
plus his power will still be boring and not have anything to do with music. there is no reason for him being a kpop star and would like actually see a reason why he is a kpop star
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@ALostPuppy said:
Did people stop playing Oni or slugging or running hex perks because of soul guard?
There's your answer (answer is no, by the way).
you cant pick yourself up with soulguard unless there a hex you do know that right
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2242957#Comment_2242957
Trapper can't camp hooks and 3 gens better though. That's assuming people are dumb enough to step in traps. Good survivors will be cautious. Trickster can lay knives in to the rescuee and down them basically before they can get the unhook. Then blast the escapee before they can get anywhere. Same with the 3 gen. I can range you and keep you off a gen. While trapper has to watch and walk over. Or hope they're not cautious and step in a trap. He can camp the basement better though, yea.
To say legion and Myers are better is a stretch too. When I face a legion. I don't think "######### windows and pallets are unsafe this game." Hell most times I take my hit at a pallet and stun them out of their power. Heavy damage avoided. Now let's go loop them for however long. Myers can have 3-4 gens pop before he's even a threat. Trickster can at least apply pressure early and cause mistakes.
Piggy can be subjective and it's close on who's better. But it just goes back to do I feel safe at pallets and windows. And having the mechanics available to me to keep me safe vs her ? Yeap. I can keep a pig occupied at loops. That I cannot with trickster
I can't reiterate this enough either. No one is saying trickster is strong,op, broken, etc. What were saying is he's not the worst killer. And is totally usuable. While posts like these would lead you to believe you cant get a single down with him.
Sorry @Leachy_Jr im going to have to agree with brokensoul on this
personally, I think trickster is a bad killer but I don't think he is the worst killer trapper is the worst but I still think trickster is a painful weak killer
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@Adjatha said:
To the people who say "Oh Tricker's actually super good, you just have to get good with him":
Would you at least agree that he should be changed from "EASY" to "HARD"? The whole point of that difficulty stat is to help people get a feel for how tough it is to use the power effectively and play around the killer's innate weaknesses. Bubba revs his chainsaw and runs faster, getting 1-shot downs. He is EASY to play. Nurse moves slower than survivors and has to precisely measure out her blinks or suffer a self-inflicted pallet-stun. She is HARD to play.
Trickster moves slowly, has a power that gets shut down by more than half the loops in the game, is heavily map-dependent, requires continual hits, fades away, requires reloading, slows you down, is inaccurate and gets more inaccurate the longer you throw, and charges up a bonus power that goes away if you don't use it within 10 seconds and actually makes you WEAKER if you do.
If some people can play around ALL those weaknesses to reliably down survivors, that's great. But that is not a feat that your average person can do just by picking up and playing the character 2-3 times. That is the definition of a HARD killer. If the Devs intended Trickster to be an EASY killer, they failed spectacularly.
the thing is that he is a very hard killer that doesn't have a very good reward your better off practicing with huntress and you'll do way better
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2242569#Comment_2242569
Not everyone thinks it. Just the people on the forums. Who have no opinions of their own. And just parrot what they're told by a streamer
some streamers think trickster is ok that seems to me what you are parroting
stop saying that your opinion is so "Original" .trickster may not be the worst killer to me or you but he is still a killer with so many flaws that make him boring and not unique
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@PanicSquid said:
I think he's the weakest killer in the game, but he's still viable enough with good perks. His power works pretty well around short (vertically) loops and window vaults, and a main event can absolutely shred multiple survivors if they're caught out in the open.
I don't think he needs a Freddy level re-work, I think with some more minor tweaks he could be a bit better off. So a Demogorgon sized rework.
Maybe reduce the base knives needed to injure down to 6, from 8, change his Iri add-ons, maybe a single bounce from a knife by default and make the add-on give 3 bounces.
you are right about him being able to be viable with good perks but any killer can
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@BrokenSouI said:
I can't even bothered to be comment anymore. There's so many threads about this. It's obvious the people who use him and know how to use him. And have good aim.
Compared to people who just parrot what their favorite streamer is saying. No one is saying he's OP. But there's killers in worse spots.
but you are commenting first and if everyone thinks that this killer is weak then that killer is weak. you just cant come to terms with that can you
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@Crowman said:
He 100% needs an addon pass. Besides having some relatively useless addons in stalk movement speed. Tombstone piece is actually broken. And Vanity Mirror is just a worse Scratched Mirror despite both having the same rarity.
i agree with you but how would they rework tombstone Peice
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@[Deleted User] said:
what is counterforce?
its a new jill perk that gives you a 20% totem cleansing speed and when you destroy a totem get another 20% totem breaking bonus and you see the furthest totem
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@[Deleted User] said:
I'm new to the game, so he wouldn't seem "old" to me but i feel like he is near perfect. His addons especially the tombstone piece is really fun to use.
he may be fun to go against but god can he be weak with a slow start and a not bad but not good instadown ability
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why did yu edit/or move my post
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why is clown higher than deathslinger
why is pyramidhead in B tier
I don't think Freddy is that good overall but C tier really I would say at least B tier
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@Zesty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2239926#Comment_2239926
https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Ji-Woon_Hak Look on the right you will see a section called "lullaby" It starts at 32 m WAYYY b4 the actual heartbeat!
that so weird
I need to go in a kyf to see it for myself
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tell me about it
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can i see a vid of the lullaby cuz I never heard it
if this is real that's a burb since he is already a weak killer and needs all the help he can get
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I wish she would be fixed but I doubt it. she would be so good like you said. we just have to deal with it for a long time since they haven't even fixed hillbilly or nurse yet
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@ProfGameAndTalk said:
Glad nobody here is in charge of things. Spirit is fine. If she's getting a 4k every match you play then you need more practice. I'm a Spirit main and the people that give me problems are the good loopers. Trouble with Spirit? Loop better and hope your teammates are working gens and bones.
she has no counterplay apart from pre dropping pallets like a madman how is that "fine"
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@Relix said:
its balanced, doesnt need a nerf
she has basically no counterplay how is that balaced
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@DawnMad said:
You should get more sleep my dude.
i know
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@TheBus4K said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2235407#Comment_2235407
Blight Tier S? Twins Tier A? Wraith Tier C? Myers Tier D?
Uhm... I imagine that everyone has their opinion, but this is...
blight and twins are incredibly strong killers that ca snow ball-like,madmen
wraith is now much better with his buff I would probably put him in b tier tbh
and myer although he has snowball his early game is terrible and probably has one of the worst map mobility in the game
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@Star99er said:
Slightly Buff his tentacles and Slightly nerf the Zombies. Increase range on tentacles and slightly reduce movement speed of the zombies.
why do you think the zombies need a nerf
the reason they got so many downs in the ptb is that mostly everyone was playing on the new indoor map
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2234551#Comment_2234551
Practicing at red ranks IS the best thing you can do though. You learn nothing by mowing down potatoes. It's actually detrimental to your development. Because you think that the things you're doing will always work.
The best thing you can do is practice vs the best. Take your lumps and basically..Get good
that's a bit rude but hey
I guess you can start from the top and get better. but still saying to Git gud is like telling a sick person to get healthier moron. insulting someone is not the best way to persuade them
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@Northener1907 said:
Nurse. She is goddess. But with me she is weakest killer in game, survivors laughing her.
I am new as her and i am waiting tutorial mod for more pratice. Because i bored depips because of her.
she is really good but it takes a ton of practice and practicing at red ranks isn't good practice I suggest just wait till hopefully MMR comes out or practice with your friends in a KYF
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2233435#Comment_2233435
Here's the thing. If he had like 5 blades and it only took one knife to do a health state. Then he would just be huntress. He excels in some areas she doesn't in
And that is one of the only thing he is better at being less punished for missing . If you didn’t that’s because he has 60 knives that have recoil and have a small hitbox
plus is that really what you can think of
wow tricker is so good he is leased punished for using his power incorrectly
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@mynameisBlade said:
No rework needed. Just buff his power. He should really throw multiple blades at once instead of just one at a time. He has the goofiest looking animation because of it too. Just make him throw similar to this.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/QOXYC4W745K2/multiple-png.png
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SYVYVAGQSY9F/3-at-once-png.png
I mean he always holds multiple almost in every picture, so I'm unsure why they decided to have him throw just 1 at a time... Very very silly IMHO..
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/GAA5ADND09ON/many-at-once-png.png
Now that is something I would like to see
him throwing multiple knives at once
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2233412#Comment_2233412
Hitting 8 compared to 1 usually isn't an issue. But again. This isn't about who can do it better. This is about if he's unique(he is). He excels at certain areas huntress and slinger would be screwed in. Thats unique to him. Overall he's weaker then both. But that just means he needs a buff and not a rework
how is hitting 8 rather than 1, not an issue
any range killer can get an injure at a window in a snap but trickster can only get a couple of knives in.
he maybe is a little unique but not by much.
when you think of someone that is a performer, makes music with the screams of their victims, and performs with daggers is throwing daggers fast the first thing u think of.
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@Shroompy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2233390#Comment_2233390
I dont think his collision zone is bigger I just think some of the maps have wonky hitboxes, which theyve always have.
Curving is still very possible and I do it with no issue. On maps like Badham, Autohaven and Ormond especially youre able to curve around some objects no problem
The harder to hit survivors thing I haven't experienced at all
curving is albeit possible but much harder with the new reworked maps
and there are a ton of bugs that make him so unfun like the bug where if a survivor vaults a pallet and you use your chainsaw it will break the pallet over downing the surv
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@BrokenSouI said:
The amount of people who think map pressure is mobility here....Oy vey 🤦
well, most killers with good map pressure have good map mobiity that's where the stigma comes from
and I don't blame them only certain killers are good that don't have good map mobility.
clown may have an okay chase but not enough to warrant him to have good map pressure
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2233370#Comment_2233370
But he is unique. You can lay knives in to people after the first health state as they're sprinting away and down someone very quickly with him if they're out of position. You CHOOSE to compare him to huntress. But the comparison ends at they both throw things at you.
He needs QOL buffs. Not a rework. I think you need to be able to hold main event for as long as you want. But make the throw rate the normal throw rate but it doesn't use your knives. You need to move faster in main event. Because that's an issue right now. And he maybe needs speed up when holding knives to throw too.
even if he was slightly unique other killers can just do his job better like you said if there out of position he can do well but almost any killer can take advantage of that for example huntress.
huntress needs one hit he needs 8.
the only thing he is better at huntress is certain loops like car loops on Badham but that's only one thing out of a few things he is good at. that other killer arent
plus even if he is "unique ' to u the power can be very oppressive and can be very unhealthy for the game
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2233377#Comment_2233377
It was a necessary change to prevent people from revving it at pallets while chasing people inevitably.
he already had a downside from revving his chainsaw and that's the slower movent speed
a good player can take so much advantage from that.
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@Shroompy said:
Have you actually taken the time to play Billy or did you just play 1 game, do bad and come to complain about it?
I never realized the amount of people that relied on add ons to do well with him, he's the exact same base kit, he can still do everything he could before except for Space Billy. If you get fast enough downs and use your chainsaw properly overheat isnt a problem, especially if you have add ons.
I will agree tho the animations are a bit annoying, but you get used to them.
there is actually a lot of things they did with him that make him worse or at least less fun to play.
they made his collision zone bigger so you can hit more things while using your chainsaw
the reworked maps have weird hitboxes so it's harder to cure( especially auto haven)
and he has some weird hitbox issues with his chainsaw where its harder to hit a surv
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
I play him all the time and he's fine. You just can't spam his chainsaw every second. Would like to use it for distance a bit more with less overheat but its not a burden.
I know its not bad i barley overheat unless im trying too but it just makes him less fun to play
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@BrokenSouI said:
I don't think he needs a rework. Maybe some slight buffs. Since he's really only powerful with one type of playstyle...His power IS unique. "He's just another range killer" Ok...But his range is different from Huntress or Deathslinger. You can say he's a worse huntress. But his range is different from hers and has his own upsides
there are some things he is good at but he just isn't really that unique. he isn't strong on most loops that are prevalent in mostly any map
i just think they need to start from the ground up since, this killer could have been so cool with his design and everything but they missed the mark by so much