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  • YEAH THATLL TEACH THOSE FLASHLIGHT CARRYING DEMONIC HELLSPAWNS A LESSON!!!!

    IF YOU PLAY SURVIVOR, YOU SUCK!!!

  • If you have good connection, you should not be able to get bs hits (like you stated, so you probably have a good connection). If you're playing survivor, dedicated or not I think most the community knows its much more dependent on the killers ping.

    There isn't such a thing as a "recommended connection" but just know that if a killer gets an undeserved hit on you, it's most likely their bad connection. And it's also pretty likely that on their screen, it looked fair to them.

    Who to blame? Hit validation and VPNs still being allowed for god knows why

  • The aura's of survivors sent to the cage of atonement will not be revealed to the other survivors for 20 seconds.

    Trust me this is powerful than it may seem at first sight, ESPECIALLY in solo queue. Definitely not an uncommon

  • They serve whoever knows how to use them best

  • @TheClownIsKing said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/244080/daily-reminder-that-the-game-map-has-37-god-pallets

    It’s really not that bad.

    I’m not trying to condescend you.

    I genuinely feel it’s not that bad.

    There are so few safe vaults on Gideon, that once many pallets are gone, the map quickly becomes very dangerous for survivors.

    You may not be able to mind game many of them, so just force the pallet drop and get rid of them.

    "That once many pallets are gone"

    Yeah I wonder how long that'll take

  • nopeeee, 3rd person rocks more for me, seeing the whole thing from a viewer's prospective lets you understand the terror you just striked through their hearts

  • Okay I changed my opinion from then, if you only play one side you should NEVER have a say in balancing this game with all due respect.

  • @VESSEL said:

    Did you seriously just use Swag in 2021

    image.png image.png

    yes

  • Cap removal? Disastrous

    Farming killers would be favorite killers making literal hour long farming lobbies.

    Cap increase? Good idea, but really not the solution needed for the grind

  • Replace desperate measures with inner strength and you get a heal for each totem you do because of detective's hunch


    Otherwise pretty solid mate

  • @Steel_Eyed said:

    Ah yes, validation in the form of a SJ video:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WINWI261pO4

    LMAOOO how did you even find this 4 months old thread

  • @Raccoon said:

    Why or why not?

    I'm a demo main, I'll just say i'd be deeply saddened if rat liver is removed in the rework, and everyone agrees it should have been put in basekit.

    The problem with demo is that pretty much 90% of his addons focused on his portals instead of his chase power, and from that 10% its literally just the miss cooldown which forgives new bad players, the only one that actually allowed for fun unoppressive chases with high rank survivors was the rat liver, I pray to god it remains a thing or the devs consider implementing it base-kit.

  • @Adeloo said:

    i thought they fixed the hitboxes on objects for Blight ?

    They raised the POV, making object hitboxes significantly worse

  • Removes the wind up sound for the hatchet

  • THEY DID IT THEY REMOVED SPREAD.


    THEY'RE FINALLY LISTENING, WRAITH BUFFS BLIGHTS POV BHVR I LOVE YOU WHATS HAPPENING TO YOU

  • Survivors can't do anything against one hit ability or add on.

    Window as a protection is not always an option.

    Then position yourself in somewhere where there is a window? It's not rocket science. You're basically whining for a bubba getting you with his chainsaw because you're in a dead zone. You're being punished for being in that dead zone

  • Can't they just implement a Hold m1 to unlacerate where you just remove the throwing knives puncturing you or something, 99 trick doesn't work, killer has a tiny bit of game delay to help him out.

  • Bunny fengs, no I swear you don't look cute

  • @ScottJund said:

    Its not complicated. Its not intended therefore it shouldn't be in the game.

    Can't you say the same for curve billy though, or window techs for example?

  • wait what year is it

  • @Mugombo said:

    Escape rate 11%? But but but.... survivors OP what do you mean????

    It just means he's a good killer.

    If you're a regular killer main with a lot of hours invested into the game you should also notice you win most of your matches. What does this say?

    Game's tilted towards the killer in solo queue, towards survivors in SWF. Solution? Buff solo queue by adding more communication methods, and buff killers accordingly.

  • It literally says in the power, the knife count not going down in main event is INTENDED.

    IT WAS LITERALLY A BUG FIX, NOT A BUFF.

    Who in god's name is even gonna hit 2 ricochets with the tiny hitboxes and survivor movement and latency all at once?

    Oh, and if you somehow hit that amazing double ricochet shot, lmao get cucked your reward's just the same, an eighth of the laceration meter.

    Yet another horrible killer release by BHVR which could have been super easily fixed if our feedback was actually listened to. Keep going and you might make this horrid work a streak

  • @ProfGameAndTalk said:

    I don't have Deathslinger, Demo, Pig, PP Head, Myers, Ghostface, Oni.

    I'm told that Ghostface has some decent perks that can be used by others, but that's subjective I know.

    What killer would you recommend and why? Who is just fun to play?

    I'm recommending this off most fun.

    Pyramidhead slinger or Oni.

    Oni's most fun for me cause I love mobility and his war roar strikes fear into the dwights hearts, his flick ain't that hard to master either and once you do you'll be unstopable at chases.

    Slinger's satisfying if you can shoot.

    Pyramidhead pretty much shuts down any chase and if you wanna feel that sense of power and control in a chase pick him up.

  • @Beelzeboop said:

    Lvl 2 BBQ can easily net you about 30k BP on an "Entity Displeased," everyone escaped match. (I learned this from my time playing the Cannibal. I was unlocking BBQ for my other killers, and I suck at Bubba.)

    I've gotten almost 100k BP from a "Ruthless Killer" match with lvl 2 BBQ and a brown Tanager Wreath.

    Exactly don't forget to add the fact that we're in lunar year the average good match with bbq can get you like 70k or so. A daily reward you can get In 10 minutes.

  • @Mandy said:

    There's nothing we can do here on the forums with regards to this. Customer Support have answered your ticket and I am sure they are looking into the way to best refund or resolve the issue - things are not always quite so straightforward as they appear. If you've not heard anything after a period of time, a follow up to your ticket is advisable but please give it sufficient time from the first response from them.

    yeah 18 days ain't sufficient time I guess

  • Imagine there's a sphere around you with radius 32m, any generator inside that sphere is affected. Both horizontalaly and vertically

  • • Remove BBQ, low effort perk

    • Remove mindbreaker, exhaustion effect is outdated this is too overpowered

    • Remove blood echo, don't wanna deal with it

    • Remove hex the third seal, it applies the OP blindness effect for low effort

    • Nerf spirit, nerf freddy, nerf oni, nerf blight, nerf nurse. just nerf anyone that isn't basekit wraith

    • Remove bamboozle abusing infinites actually takes skill

    • Remove devour hope, cause boring

    • Remove noed, cause boring

    • Increase gen repair speed by 200% for every survivor that dies


    Then we'll talk

  • @CakeDuty said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1910865#Comment_1910865

    I remember watching a stream with Mclean where he said something like "Insta down Huntress is a goner, don't invest in it." 2 years ago. Really goes to show how slow they work there, can't even change the most problematic and complained about addon within a 2 year span. First I thought they were waiting to change it for the Huntress add on pass, but then they announce her Begrimed Head getting changed next patch, so I can't figure out an excuse anymore.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/TsundereScrumptiousPangolinTheRinger

    I'm just surprised at how unpopular this is while poor Almo is getting bashed for the lack of communication between team members.

  • you're telling me the OP blindness effect isn't worthy of being a purple addon?

  • @yoko123 said:

    The most unforgivable act of laziness in my opinion is the continued existence of Iridescent Head.

    When they made Deathslinger, they made sure his insta-down addon was near useless. Why doesn't that philosophy apply to Huntress? Literally any nerf would be welcome to the Iridescent Head. Most Huntresses I encounter refuse to use it themselves because it feels like cheating. And almost all Huntresses I find using it play as toxic as possible.

    It's simply an unhealthy addon. I think a lot of people would be happier if they simply removed it. I wish the devs worked faster on this stuff.

    Yup it ain't usually the iri head alone its iri head mori ruin undying noed, completely unhealthy

  • @SocialDistomancy said:

    I think we should nerf the clear devs bias in favor of killers, which they have been making much progress with lately with these much needed changes to broken mechanics unfairly in the killers' favor. But they have a lot more work to do. Like even the queue times are still in the killers' favor, which also needs to be changed.

    yes cause the devs magically control the queue times not that it has to do with killer player count or anything.

  • You know the bigger problem is even when we wait sooooo long for the change, the change is a huge letdown.


    We've waited ages and ages for a mori change, and at the end what is it? Changing a value from 1 to 2. Can't you like rework it into something healthy or rewarding like the activates upon hooking all idea? Why do I feel constantly disappointed in the devs I love this game I swear :(

  • @gibblywibblywoo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/222562/billy-was-overkilled

    its a shame that this rework, unlike Nurse which added a new wall for new players and didn't hurt the good ones, only really hurt the good billys. The ones who put the time in to learn the curve and his actual hard as hell anti loop.

    I don't see more than 1 curve billy every other month if that now, they were genuinly scary to play against. Now if I see billy its a noed hook camping purple rank.

    EXACTLY THIS


    Now curve billy is legit just overheat in 2 chainsaws because of the charge time increase that isn't accounted for by this awful overheat system....

  • @Kirkylad said:

    Making kindred base but just without seeing the killer and just seeing all other survivors is a good idea. Having a totem counter is a brilliant idea I've been wanting that for so long and I have no idea why that isn't a thing especially when they say totems is one of the survivors objectives.

    Even with the see killer effect it's still be quite alright but yeah it'll clearly prevent double saves which can get annoying.

  • Ghostface C tier?

  • @Rizzo said:

    Please keep the discussion on topic and respectful, avoid throwing shades at people.

    please give us answers <3

  • Bubba down

    Doctor up

    Plague down

    Blight up

  • @danielmaster87 said:

    The next time someone has the guts in post-game chat to call me a garbage killer who needs to get good, I'm gonna do exactly what I did tonight: pick up the Twins and slug everyone in the next match. I like to call it a revenge match. You may say "but those survivors didn't do anything to you!" You can't fault me for this because there is no rematch button, so it must be a new set of survivors I face, and also it's part of the game and I can play that way if I want. If other people get to use those excuses, so do I. So I'm gonna get good, or "do better" you might call it. I'm gonna slug for the 4, proxy the hook, maybe make someone DC in the process, and I don't care if I depip or black pip because I WON. That's what "getting good" looks like, so be careful what you wish for.

    I can understand why you're super angry right now, but the thing is you're getting queued with randoms, you just took out all your hate on people who probably had nothing to do with it :(

  • @Withered8 said:

    I Don't see how ghostface and legions perks are better then demos, which are actually quite decent. Surge is great, mindbreaker has uses after it's buff and cruel minutes can make for some crutch plays. Agree with a fair amount on this list although plague should definitely be top. All three of her perks are very strong.

    Surge literally has 5 requirements

    • Upon downing survivor

    • With a basic attack

    • Gens within 32m

    • That are not previously damaged

    • While surge cooldown isn't active

    Get 8% shaved off and damaged..... It's one of these perks that is not just heavily map dependant where you'll get 3 gen damages/down out of it on 1 map compared to 1 gen damage on another. But the reward is just underwhelming.


    If you think mindbreaker is "still has its uses" just leave this thread nobody give's a rat's ass about a perk especially designed to counter 1 perk (sprint burst) under a requirement that can be easily countered if the survivor chooses to let go of the gen when they sense the killer coming.


    Cruel Limits rewards you for gen completion which is a design i despise, but honestly the reward is still underwhelming, vault blocks? Survivors will often find pallets anyways, it's one of these perks that only suit 1 killer well which in this case is bubba cause he's a pallet shredder.


    As for plague I actually quite agree with you, she can be top tier but I wanted to give bubba a huge amount of respect for how much BBQ & Chilli will help anyone with the grind, and is like almost a MUST.

  • Honestly the wholesome moments here and there you get from it are worth all the attention deprived sore losers for me.


    Again if you can't tolerate their toxicity turn them off, if you know you're the bigger person and you never tunneled or camped or the same 5 excuses then their whining will only remind you of how good you are at the game ;)

  • russian playerbase 2.0 all i can do is pity and pray for you boys

  • or would they create a Imbalance in which Killer can easily Puppy Guard the Last 3 gens or last single Generator and hold the game hostage!

    You answered yourself big boy

  • @UncleStabby said:

    I like playing Demo, and really want to main him for a while! I know he's the strongest killer for the Save the Best for Last perk, and I'm running that, of course, but I'd also like to know what you guys think works best on him! Currently I run STBFL, Devour Hope, Mindbreaker, and Surge.

    Best Addon: Rat Liver , watch below guide to know how to use it in chases

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crw2LcaGNFY


    To me the best way to play demo, is aggressive, like super hardcore. Obviously you should know why everyone runs STBFL on him, shred obsession m1 everyone else.

    Best Builds on demo

    Aggressive (favorite, lose a few gens at first, but snowballish) : Infectious Fright (Can swap out for enduring, whichever gives you more value consistently) , Save the best for last, BBQ & Chilli, Pop goes the weasel

    • You will lose gens at first since you lack early game gen defense, don't worry, as you gain stacks of save the best for last stacks and slug people with infectious fright and you'll be alright.

    Defensive (Reliable): Hex Ruin, Hex Undying, Corrupt Intervention, BBQ/Save the best for last

    • Place portals directly below gens and activate them early into the match, you get a notification whenever a survivor is on a gen, if they risk doing the gen with the portal directly below they're oblivious and you know exactly where they are, if they waste time cleansing then you get a notif when they done cleansing. The info you get from this is insane.

    Mean (Oppressive, credits to otz) : Make your choice, Agitation, Iron Grasp, Territorial Imperative

    • Objective #1, get someone to the basement

    • place a portal at the top of the basement staircase

    • Walk away patrol gens

    • Territorial imperative triggers, place a portal right below you whereever you are, get ready to tp back

    • Right after unhook noise triggers, MYC goes off, 1 down hit unhooker, if you got a good basement down the hooked too

  • If the killer doesn't make mistakes tracking you, you're kinda helpless.


    But for me the whole "no counterplay" argument is flawed, because if a survivor doesn't make mistakes while they're looping you (assuming you fall into the majority of m1 killers) then you're also kinda helpless.

  • It's funny how a 50 pound sword tearing through the f‎ucking ground makes less noise than a skinny walking foreskin.

    make demo less loud pls

  • @Steel_Eyed said:

    After playing Demogorgon to prestige three and beyond for specific perks, In my opinion the vocal Demo players are misusing portals for surprise attacks over informational use and crutch misusing the shred.

    Perscriptions:

    1. Place the portals directly on generators. The portals are actually quite effective at gen slowdown as survivors want to break these often times. Also by putting the portals on generators the Demo guarantees the effects of his addons. After some setup it’s surveillance on the objectives.
    2. Stop holding shred during chase. The brown addon that increases Demo’s shred walk speed is a crutch and overrated. The demo would be better knowing the situations that guarantee a shred hit and react to the survivor rather than walk around holding shred for longer than three seconds.

    The rat liver is NOT overrated, it is the addon that can help you draw the line between the survivor turning a corner so you can land the shred, it allows you to take your time holding it so you make sure you land your shred, it's on top of all tier lists for a reason.

    It's simple, we just need more addons towards his shred instead of portals

  • @Raccoon said:

    Nurse and Billy are waiting for Freddy to join "The Invisibles."

    Demogorgon side story (How I Lost My Liver) coming soon.

    If they get rid of rat liver im not maining demo anymore sorry but hes just too weak at such state

  • ######### how did this thread come back to life out of nowhere

    My opinions changed a bit at gen rushing, all i can say rn is that if all maps are reworked to fit a pretty decent size, and base regression rate from kicking a gen is increased, then it really shouldn't be a thing.

    But if a super sweaty 4 player swf who never works on gens together is what you're going against then while it's still oppressive (especially if your killer isnt B-S tier) they probably earned the win.

  • What's super frustrating is that the devs don't even give us proper answers anymore even when a thread like this blows up. We're met with crap like

    "pLeAsE sTOp ssPrEAdInG nEgAtIvITy and DONT DISRESPECT US"

    You don't force respect, you earn it. And you certainly don't earn it by turning 50 good people's profile pics into this because you didn't like their criticism.

    image.png

    How about some real answers? "we're working on it" gives us ZERO INSIGHT. Be clear with us for once, tell us why the problems happen, an ETA on a fix, and maybe respect will go both ways between players and devs. But this just looks like a lazy joke.

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