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Aari_Piggy66 said:

yeet said:

Brady said:

No.

Survivors are not going to need massive nerfs.

Killers are going to need massive buffs.

The whole point of buffing solo queuers, bringing them to SWF level, is to then balance around SWF level.

@Orion said:
As if Survivors ever listen to reason. We warn them time and time again that some of the things they request will inevitably lead to a bad outcome, but they disregard what we say. When they inevitably do lead to a bad outcome, they cry. When it's fixed, they forget all about it.

Stop generalizing such a small portion of survivors. Just get the [BAD WORD] along.

Survivor nerfs/killer buffs are basically the same thing you're just arguing semantics.

No they're really not, there are loads of ways they can actually both Killers not only as a whole but individually as well but because it would put immense pressure on solo players they couldn't exactly go along with it now that they're trying to make them more in line they can efficiently buff Killers individually and generally without having one group of the survivor base suffer immensely from it.

There's definitely ways you can nerf survivors that would affect SWF far more than solos.

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 6, 2018

powerbats said:

@yeet said:
powerbats said:

@yeet said:

You're arguing semantics, the outcome is the same, this is a pointless conversation, there's no need to get worked up over terminology when the result is the same.

Pot meet kettle and what you're really trying to say here is you have no argument and are resorting to the classic Straw Man.

There's not even an argument here, the outcome is the same, so why bother arguing terminology? I really don't understand where you're trying to go with this.

There is an argument here, you just don't want to have one since you can't argue your point effectively. The outcome is different but since you can't debate you result to the time honored tradition of Logical Fallacies.

I stated, that survivors will lose power compared to killers if solos are brought up to the power of SWF, how the developers go about that is totally irrelevant, i don't see where you disagreed at all.

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 6, 2018

powerbats said:

@yeet said:

You're arguing semantics, the outcome is the same, this is a pointless conversation, there's no need to get worked up over terminology when the result is the same.

Pot meet kettle and what you're really trying to say here is you have no argument and are resorting to the classic Straw Man.

There's not even an argument here, the outcome is the same, so why bother arguing terminology? I really don't understand where you're trying to go with this.

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 6, 2018

BigFudge said:

Spiritbx said:

So what if you kobe? The killer has nothing to do but to stand there and wait for the game to end. They will just hit and hook you again.

I understand that but if you run adrenaline it’s very possible to get away. Situational I know but still.

It's literally impossible for adrenaline to go off when you get hooked and everyone else is dead, there's no conceivable situation where that would happen.

in Hooking Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Visionmaker said:

@yeet said:
Visionmaker said:

@yeet said:

So you agree with me that survivor perks affect other survivors therefore should be weaker than killer perks? Great!

Let me know when I can benefit off of someone else using SC.

All I know is that it robs me of altruism points.

Allows teammates to always be full health to bodyblock and make saves much easier, even if they're the only other survivor left.

Nah it sucks because they're sapping away BP and Emblem Points from me. I'd rather people not use it. :^)

So you concede that i'm right? Thanks!

in Swap Thanophobia and Third Seal Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Visionmaker said:

@yeet said:
So you agree with me that survivor perks affect other survivors therefore should be weaker than killer perks? Great!

Let me know when I can benefit off of someone else using SC.

All I know is that it robs me of altruism points.

Allows teammates to always be full health to bodyblock and make saves much easier, even if they're the only other survivor left.

in Swap Thanophobia and Third Seal Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Visionmaker said:

@yeet said:
A survivor running sprint burst gives you more time to work on gens, you do not exist in a bubble.

Good thing that you brought WGLF. I can't wait to be farmed the moment I get on the hook.

You brought No Mither? Great!

said no one ever

So you agree with me that survivor perks affect other survivors therefore should be weaker than killer perks? Great!

in Swap Thanophobia and Third Seal Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

BigFudge said:

Hey guys, apologies in advance if this question has been asked before.

If you are hooked as the last survivor, having not been hooked so far during the trial, why on earth are you not given the chance to try and escape the hook? I honestly can’t think of a reason for the last hook to be like this? Does anyone know? Cheers 👍🏻

Because there would be absolutely no reason for the killer to not just stand in front of you waiting till you hit struggle, its just saving everyone time.

in Hooking Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Visionmaker said:
@yeet said:
Visionmaker said:

@brokedownpalace said:

Bug_Reporter said:
@Milo said:

Sooo then how do we get rid of blindness? Or do you mean it's on hit for a certain amount of time



You dont, the killer have used a perk slot to be able to make survivors lives just a "bit less easy", do u really need the game to always HOLD YOUR HAND?
Yeah the killer should totally have one perk that can render Bond, Open Handed, Kindred, Plunderer's Instinct, Detective's Hunch, Deja Vu, Empathy, Dark Sense, Object of Obsession, and Alert entirely useless. Great and balanced idea!

But survivors have 16 perks

/s

They do, it's incredibly disingenuous to claim that other survivors perks don't affect you.
Hey I didn't bring my SB or SC, can I borrow yours?

A survivor running sprint burst gives you more time to work on gens, you do not exist in a bubble.

in Swap Thanophobia and Third Seal Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Visionmaker said:

@brokedownpalace said:
Bug_Reporter said:

@Milo said:

Sooo then how do we get rid of blindness? Or do you mean it's on hit for a certain amount of time

You dont, the killer have used a perk slot to be able to make survivors lives just a "bit less easy", do u really need the game to always HOLD YOUR HAND?

Yeah the killer should totally have one perk that can render Bond, Open Handed, Kindred, Plunderer's Instinct, Detective's Hunch, Deja Vu, Empathy, Dark Sense, Object of Obsession, and Alert entirely useless. Great and balanced idea!

But survivors have 16 perks

/s

They do, it's incredibly disingenuous to claim that other survivors perks don't affect you.

in Swap Thanophobia and Third Seal Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Visionmaker said:

They're already planning to rework half of the killers.

I'm talking about big changes to base mechanics

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Brady said:

@yeet said:
Brady said:

No.

Survivors are not going to need massive nerfs.

Killers are going to need massive buffs.

The whole point of buffing solo queuers, bringing them to SWF level, is to then balance around SWF level.

@Orion said:

As if Survivors ever listen to reason. We warn them time and time again that some of the things they request will inevitably lead to a bad outcome, but they disregard what we say. When they inevitably do lead to a bad outcome, they cry. When it's fixed, they forget all about it.

Stop generalizing such a small portion of survivors. Just get the [BAD WORD] along.

Survivor nerfs/killer buffs are basically the same thing you're just arguing semantics.

They aren't, and if I need to explain that then that's your problem.

Like I said, survivors are going to be buffed to SWF potential, and then killers will be buffed accordingly.

Exhaustion was a nerf to survivors but in no way effected the way the Killer system works? There were no changes to Killer in how ANYTHING works when exhaustion was changed. Not a buff to killers.

You're arguing semantics, the outcome is the same, this is a pointless conversation, there's no need to get worked up over terminology when the result is the same.

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Brady said:

No.

Survivors are not going to need massive nerfs.

Killers are going to need massive buffs.

The whole point of buffing solo queuers, bringing them to SWF level, is to then balance around SWF level.

@Orion said:
As if Survivors ever listen to reason. We warn them time and time again that some of the things they request will inevitably lead to a bad outcome, but they disregard what we say. When they inevitably do lead to a bad outcome, they cry. When it's fixed, they forget all about it.

Stop generalizing such a small portion of survivors. Just get the [BAD WORD] along.

Survivor nerfs/killer buffs are basically the same thing you're just arguing semantics.

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Milo said:

That's the point.

Just a warning to the people who act like its going to be all sunshine and roses for survivors.

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

thana would need to be buffed by 5x to warrant being a hex perk

in Swap Thanophobia and Third Seal Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Doesn't matter who or what the killer and their power is all that we need to know is that survivors will call them op and cry for day 1 nerfs.

in Chapter 9 Predictions? Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

Orion said:

As if Survivors ever listen to reason. We warn them time and time again that some of the things they request will inevitably lead to a bad outcome, but they disregard what we say. When they inevitably do lead to a bad outcome, they cry. When it's fixed, they forget all about it.

I can see survivors losing a lot of power in the not so distant future, more than they have ever lost before.

in if solo play gets brought up to the level of SWF survivors are going to have to get massive nerfs Comment by yeet August 5, 2018

these buffs will put survivors in the best place they've ever been since infinites were removed, mark my words.

in Can we all just calm down?? Comment by yeet August 4, 2018

@Ihatelife said:

@yeet said:

@Ihatelife said:

@yeet said:

@Ihatelife said:

@yeet said:
i don't understand why you want bloodlust nerfed
you must really like seeing only nurse ever

If you need bloodlust to kill survivors, you are not very good killer at all

i play 90% nurse i never need bloodlust
if survivors want to continue nerfing every killer except nurse that's something they're gonna have to deal with

Devs want to change bloodlust not survivor's

i have seen thousands of posts of survivors crying for bloodlust nerfs
bloodlust was a terrible bandaid for broken maps and loops, they need to go

Well if the bloodlust for the devs will seem's balanced, they didn't even touch it

work on your english