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@Orion said:
How will it make things harder for lower ranked Killers? SWF groups already purposefully derank to troll them.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” – Christopher Hitchens.
I always laugh when you post made up bs like this to make your argument look better when you know it's made up bs. Where do you get the evidence to back up your claim that swf groups already derank to troll killers?
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Dedicated servers for all sides would be great since it'd reduce a lot of the problems that are there now.
Fps issues would probably improve as would altency but not guaranteed for fps but hopefully.
Quitters would be a lot easier to punish since it'd be easier to track and thus punish.
Lag switchers and hackers would be pretty non existent at that point since no more peer to peer and they could get rid of EAC which everyone abuses right now. Going to VAC bans would nuke the cheaters really quickly.
You could try out a solo queue only side as well as all group size to see if it helps the problem killers that have an issue with sfw. (It won't change anything most likely).
Dedicated servers would allow for easier patching as well as being able to change maps etc without making clients download a massive patch every time there's an update. You'd also be able to do server side bug fixes without requiring client updates.
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I played a match earlier 1st one since release and ran right smack dab into my main a Trapper. I knew it'd be interesting when everyone in my lobby was on a P3 except me. It turns out the Trapper was P3 also and holy cow was he fast. I love the new trap set times and pickup isn't really that bad. Although with agitation III which I also run he's a scary mofo. The enrf to exhaustion isn't a big deal really and I chose not to play the ptb so I could be surprised and i sure was.
The mnap was Badham Preschool so the gen aura perk made things really interesting and to the Billy's complaining good grief. You were running across the map long before the aura perk change at gens and surprising people. so now you're whinging about actually knowing someones there and running across the map and still being able to surprise someone.
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@Someissues said:
@ScottJund said:
Yeah she actually does that. She plays way too much.
She has a private profile with no proof though, at least angrypug has his hours shown with 4.3k hours, and he streams as much as her
Well if you look at an above post hours played means nothing so some people wouldn't care. For me personally i keep my profile hidden due to jerks and trolls. I don't stream nor would I ever even though I've thought about it.
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I didn't get the game till just after it sadly, stupid Gamestop ahd computer issues and couldn't sell me the steam cards or the game dlc code. I think anytime there's a big event the rolls come out of the woodwork so to speak. similar to the dbl bp event.
The major problem is they sadly never went back into hiding after it was over.
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For those wondering Tru did in fact apologize later on for what he said and how he said it.
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@Nickenzie said:
BOSS242 said:Sorry but what does "soonTM" mean?
PC: A week to a month from now.
Console: Uhh... Years?Mac: In a Galaxy far far away.
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@lasombra1979 said:
@powerbats said:
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
He's trolling. Nothing to see here
@Beardedragon said:
waste of space on the threads screen. but do keep going.a quick question though: why not post this in the off topic sub section given its not balance related or.. related to anything really except being a joke?
General discussion and how is this any different than the countless whiny rant threads from the killers posting the same thing over and over. I find it funny that you both ignore that fact and never call out the same few posters who spam the forums daily.
You know like the certain killers on console who post their whiny rant threads in general and not in console.
Dear lord, I cannot believe I am defending that kid but, @powerbats there is no console sub forum here. Sadly he is actually posting in the right place. Now I feel very dirty for defending him.
I haven't looked into the console forums but assumed they had a gd as well, if not my bad so apologies if it's not there.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
powerbats said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
powerbats said:
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
He's trolling. Nothing to see here @Beardedragon said:
waste of space on the threads screen. but do keep going. a quick question though: why not post this in the off topic sub section given its not balance related or.. related to anything really except being a joke? General discussion and how is this any different than the countless whiny rant threads from the killers posting the same thing over and over. I find it funny that you both ignore that fact and never call out the same few posters who spam the forums daily. You know like the certain killers on console who post their whiny rant threads in general and not in console.
I call bullshit on anybody who brings it upon themselves.
Yet you said nothing of it so far, all your stuff has been insults directed at survivors like found the survivor main type stuff.
Did you call out the entitled survivors mindset thread, no.
The thread : WHAT IF THE NEW KILLER COULD MAKE HIMSELF/HERSELF LOOK LIKE ONE OF THE SURVIVORS IN THE MATCH?
Did you say anything positive, no you threw out more survivor insults.
Nurse needs to obey the rules and did you say what other said which was they need to buff the other killers? No you insulted the op.
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said: No. Stop being a whiny [BAD WORD]
Your entitled survivor mains thread, what'd you do but make a survivor bashing thread surprise surprise.
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said: Awww, did Leatherface hurt your feelings at his basement get-together? Yep that sounds like a legit response.
In one of the threads by the same few killers that post the same stuff have you called them out not once. In fact you've posted some of the same type of stuff. The top troll on PS4 via the way of the amount of stuff they post you never commented anything negative calling him out.
Lastly I totally agree with quite a few of the things you've said especially concerning Strain who's an absolute jack arse worse than our jailbird. Also apparently some of the stuff I know you and i both commented on has been deleted.
I was kinda stressed out at the time of writing these statements so I may have taken things a little far. I just want balancea for the game.
I apologize as well sometimes we let the heat of the moment get to us.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
powerbats said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
He's trolling. Nothing to see here @Beardedragon said:
waste of space on the threads screen. but do keep going.
a quick question though: why not post this in the off topic sub section given its not balance related or.. related to anything really except being a joke?
General discussion and how is this any different than the countless whiny rant threads from the killers posting the same thing over and over. I find it funny that you both ignore that fact and never call out the same few posters who spam the forums daily.
You know like the certain killers on console who post their whiny rant threads in general and not in console.
I call bullshit on anybody who brings it upon themselves.
Yet you said nothing of it so far, all your stuff has been insults directed at survivors like found the survivor main type stuff.
Did you call out the entitled survivors mindset thread, no.
The thread : WHAT IF THE NEW KILLER COULD MAKE HIMSELF/HERSELF LOOK LIKE ONE OF THE SURVIVORS IN THE MATCH?
Did you say anything positive, no you threw out more survivor insults.
Nurse needs to obey the rules and did you say what other said which was they need to buff the other killers? No you insulted the op.
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said: No. Stop being a whiny [BAD WORD]
Your entitled survivor mains thread, what'd you do but make a survivor bashing thread surprise surprise.
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said: Awww, did Leatherface hurt your feelings at his basement get-together? Yep that sounds like a legit response.
In one of the threads by the same few killers that post the same stuff have you called them out not once. In fact you've posted some of the same type of stuff. The top troll on PS4 via the way of the amount of stuff they post you never commented anything negative calling him out.
Lastly I totally agree with quite a few of the things you've said especially concerning Strain who's an absolute jack arse worse than our jailbird. Also apparently some of the stuff I know you and i both commented on has been deleted.
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I tried it for 6 games once I reached rank 12 2? resets ago or so. The 1st 5 games I forgot to sue it and the 6th 3 people rage quit as soon as they realized it was a Freddy on Thompson house. I got caught with 5 gens to do remembered I had it and got out ran 230 steps and got downed.
It's ok at 1st to learn the game but after awhile it's not worth it since it holds you back from learning other things. I'd personally like to see it yanked possibly the same for Iron Grasp since it's meant to counter that. They should take both out and put something better in to replace them.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
If you don't DC as soon as the match starts, you're a camper/tunneller.Don't live by these stupid rules survivors made up. Bathe in the salt and be proud you got your win fair and square
This right here shows the hypocrisy of certain killers while ignoring the made up killer rules. When survivors win fair and square it's cheating. That's why we bathe in the salt of killers like the poster above. :pirate:
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@Someissues said:
@powerbats said:
Yet you ignore it when killers do it to survivors though, I've had killers get super salty over the fact they just played bad. I've had killers say ez and gloat both post game and on profiles when all they did was camp from 1st hook.I've had survivors do the same, stop acting like it's just 1 side with this entitlement/mindset crap and acting like it's one sided. It just makes all those on either side that pretend it's only 1 sided look like a bunch of whiny entitled 6 year olds.
Most Killers on High ranked leaves the moment game ends, even if it's ggez it;s just a way of defending themselves, ggez is less insulting compared to survivor insults where they accuse you of cheating, camping, tunneling etc
survivors do this more than killers, pretty much the truth for DBD community
I always try and say gg or joke with the killer, if it's a newb on either side I give them words of advice and encouragement. You'll get more saltiness on average from survivors because there's 4 in every lobby versus only one killer.
The point is acting like it's only 1 side doing this childish and immature.
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If they're too close and go for it when they clearly know you're there then that's on them. But lately most Letherfaces are running insidious and standing literally right on top of the hooked person. They then act all cool and say ez etc in post as if basement camping with insidious or insidious camping actually takes any skill at all, especially with him.
I actually had something similar happen as Shape earlier on Gas Haven aka pallet town. I hooked someone in basement saw 1 person going for it chased them and saw someone else. So I went after the meg I saw 2nd and she runs into basement with me following. I ended up getting 3 in basement like that.
Now ordinarily i try and give them a lead and go for the unhooker but she literally ran down after getting hit and unhooked with me standing behind her. I even explained to her afterwards what the better option was. As I thought she was a brand new 20 and didn't know better, so now hopefully she will.
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That does happen on pc as well but it's really rare and not surprisingly it's always a Billy when it happen.
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@Someissues said:
@Jack11803 said:
Devs ARE rank 16....Yep this is true except Not Queen who was Rank 8 last season, she doesn't play alot so she almost never got to Rank 1 lately
I deliberately played bad today and the guy looped me for 5 gens when I was Leatherface, 0 kills and got called Cheater imao, then proceed to write on my profile as follow
survivor's mindset is amazing
Yet you ignore it when killers do it to survivors though, I've had killers get super salty over the fact they just played bad. I've had killers say ez and gloat both post game and on profiles when all they did was camp from 1st hook.
I've had survivors do the same, stop acting like it's just 1 side with this entitlement/mindset crap and acting like it's one sided. It just makes all those on either side that pretend it's only 1 sided look like a bunch of whiny entitled 6 year olds.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
He's trolling. Nothing to see here
@Beardedragon said:
waste of space on the threads screen. but do keep going.a quick question though: why not post this in the off topic sub section given its not balance related or.. related to anything really except being a joke?
General discussion and how is this any different than the countless whiny rant threads from the killers posting the same thing over and over. I find it funny that you both ignore that fact and never call out the same few posters who spam the forums daily.
You know like the certain killers on console who post their whiny rant threads in general and not in console.
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@Aari_Piggy66 said:
"And then one by one jail came for them all"One jail to rule them all.
Although what I don't understand is why they don't hit the spammers constantly spamming the forums with the same crap over and over again? That'd include also the strike for killers stuff.
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@Mr_Jay_Stark said:
The real question is: Switch release date when?!That's like asking for Mac release when?
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@PinkEricka said:
powerbats said:I vote for a strike ban as well, ban all them mofo's, let them join our hero @Lowbei in ban jail !!!!!!!
They actually thought we were all being serious in the #freelowbei strike thread. A mod messaged me and told me that I’ve been warned and that strikes are not allowed.
I’m just like are you serious?? because not too long ago someone posted a thread that killers should be on strike and they were completely serious about it...
Seriously wow I guess we need to start putting sarcasm warnings in our posts then. On the other hand perhaps all the killers calling for strikes will stop doing so as well. But probably won't happen unless we give them something else to complain about. (SARCASM WARNING LOL)
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I vote for a strike ban as well, ban all them mofo's, let them join our hero @Lowbei in ban jail !!!!!!!
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@Master said:
Even though I have heard about this, it never happened to me in 600+ hours of playtime and even on streams I have never seen that^^
guess I was just lucky?
Yeah this was something that happened I believe well over a year ago? I'm sitting at 518 hours and no killers playing as survivors. But I've had 1 particular killer using the hack to communicate in the survivors lobby. He seems to play late at night so i'm assuming he's somewhere in the Pacific time zone but Hawaii or west of that area.
He would type all sorts of interesting stuff in lobby even using my in game name while my character actually had another. I posted screenshots of it in another thread and even have video of him doing it. Now if I get into a lobby of his he instantly dodges me regardless of name. I guess he got scared when I said I was recording him doing it.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@ViolentSh4de Try verifying the integrity of the game cache since something might've gotten corrupted.@Master said:
Just wait till you face a toxic survivor that is aware of the flashlight exploitYou mean just wait until someone tries to derail the thread before reading it to suit their personal biases right. He was in the lobby and the bloodweb froze which means he couldn't be the victim of the flashlight exploit because the game hadn't loaded yet.
Also lets not forget about all the toxic killers with the ML censored hack that's been around for awhile but hey that doesn't fit your personal bias war. Why not try and keep out your flame posts to your own threads finally. Those coming here for help don't want someone posting flame garbage in their threads.
I am not aware of a ML censored hack? Explain pls
Make censored censored censored. It's pretty well know and killer can communicate to survivors in lobby along with other unsavory things. For awhile both sides could use it to block ppl they found toxic once in lobby. The devs fixed it survivor side but killers can still use it and can kick players from game or use the packet info to see other things.
ML stands for "*****************". In any Peer to peer lobby, ML censored can be run to view the people you are connected to, see their ping, and toggle a blocked/loved setting for each of them. At one point there was way more functions to it as well and some ran it with other hacking tools/programs to grant bp, cosmetics, items, add ons etc.
You could even load in as a survivor and change to a killer say Billy and down survivors upon loading into game. That part was back when it was bp based and not upon emblems.
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@ViolentSh4de Try verifying the integrity of the game cache since something might've gotten corrupted.
@Master said:
Just wait till you face a toxic survivor that is aware of the flashlight exploitYou mean just wait until someone tries to derail the thread before reading it to suit their personal biases right. He was in the lobby and the bloodweb froze which means he couldn't be the victim of the flashlight exploit because the game hadn't loaded yet.
Also lets not forget about all the toxic killers with the ML censored hack that's been around for awhile but hey that doesn't fit your personal bias war. Why not try and keep out your flame posts to your own threads finally. Those coming here for help don't want someone posting flame garbage in their threads.
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Console or pc?
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@Orion said:
@Timebomb0800 said:
@Someissues said:
Not until people realized that on High Ranked only very few killers are viable, and yet there still people thinking Killers like LF/ Pig/ Myer is fine on Rank 1. Sure you can still get 3/4k but it doesn't mean they are balanced and does not need any buffsIf you can still succeed at high ranks with "non-viable" killers and get 3/4k's, wouldn't that mean they're okay then?
No, because those things rely on Survivors making egregious mistakes several times in a row.
That's not true since I see killers do well with the lesser tiers all the time and they don't rely on others mistakes. Freddy, Hag, Myers, Trapper, Leatherface and even Huntress and Pig all do well when played with the right items/addons/perks etc.
The killers doing that are the ones that go with the flow so to speak, they pick the best killer and items/add ons/perks based upon survivor comp. They load into the map and proceed from there, they already know survivor spawn points, they know where totems are generally going to be etc.
If you go into a match with the mindset that only x killers with x items/add ons/perks are viable unless survivors make egregious mistakes then you'll never succeed with those killers.
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@fcc2014 said:
@powerbats said:
@fcc2014 I just had to do this because it's so true in a sarcastic sort of way. Although some of it is balance but the swf excuse is apt here.
When the killers is so bad you can live on the hooks and they still blame swf.
you know we are going to get 6 posts tomorrow about this same garbage and i'm willing to bet a Leatherface avatar is behind them.
Probably pretty accurate or they'll change it to something different but it seems it's the same 5-10 posters doing 5-10 threads a day.
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@fcc2014 I just had to do this because it's so true in a sarcastic sort of way. Although some of it is balance but the swf excuse is apt here.
When the killers is so bad you can live on the hooks and they still blame swf.
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@fcc2014 said:
Some men just want to watch the world burn!
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The biggest issue and the one that will not only take the most time to fix but also would solve a lot of the killer imbalance would be map redesign. This would take a huge amount of time to redo all the maps and not just the problem parts of certain maps. Ahem cough Barn cough being a prime example.
To make this better you'd have to give survivors more places to hide and better ways to lose the killer besides the pallets and endless looping. The survivors have to do this because it's the only thing they can do to get away, The killers then get frustrated and resort to camping,tunneling etc. You could change perks all you want but that won't address the core issues of the map causing the problems.
IF you fix the map design to be more of a hide and seek type then you can balance around that and killers would be in more of a power role.
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@fcc2014 said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
fcc2014 said:
Paddy4583 said:No DS and SB 2 and 1 flashlight and still no kills.
I guess these stories of SWF loadout crutches have been greatly exaggeratedAnd garbage killers wanting to eliminate swf. Swf the excuse for every killer who isn't good.
lol. i may have to draw pictures.No picture needed. I don't want you to have to use your crayons. Here is what we know about you from your 50 posts about the same thing.
1.You dreank on purpose to play lesser competition.
2. You are still not very good at Killer even under those conditions.
3. You use t-bagging as an excuse to camp(I can understand strategy but that isn't why you do it)
4. You seek approval from faceless strangers to make you feel better about yourself
5. SWF is your crusade your "White Whale" so to speak. Look it up if you don't understand. SWF isn't your problem you are everytime you turn on your PS4 "Shames"This is what makes me laugh, experience dkiller deranks and obviously has the skills if he's an experienced killer to dominate low ranks and at least get the lowbies killed. Yet evidence shows it's not the swf but the killer that's the problem. They should post the stats for the people complaining the most of what % is swf and what % isn't. Then post stats versus comparable killers in their rank and after that let them have solo queue only lobbies.
Once they've been stuck there then posts similar stats to both pre and post change and you'll find nothings really changed.
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@Delfador said:
I don't know what they can do but killers should not be at the hands of survivors' mercy right now. Survivors must feel the pressure to finish the objectives and get out the game as quickly as possible. However, even survivors try to not gen rush because they want more bloodpoints.
We gen rush because you have to in order to pip pretty much since it's a free for all and with so many maps now having gens only 1 person can work on if you don't gen rush you're screwed. Me I prefer to actually wait a the start to get my bearings so that i can scout where the killer might come from. I like to see where are my escape paths at, where are area si might be able to run to.
I see people at high ranks run around all the time and in plain sight in wide open areas basically saying here I am killer. For em I want to know where that killer is at or at least find someplace when I start moving that they don't have an easy target or los on me.
As a killer I try not to take the same route to a gen, I try not to look right at the gen I'm going to in case they've got spine chill. I don't always check the same gen the same way, sometimes Ill go far around it, other times the direct approach..I try and mix things up so I'm not predictable. I find I catch more people that way and I'll also try and guide them towards areas I know survivors are at. I don't always chase them in a straight line but sometimes slide to the side to guide them to where I want to.
The high rank killers that get me quite often do so because they tend to think like a survivor and not a killer when hunting. They also do what I said above and don't try and chase me directly but will cut the corner to where they think i might be going.
How many of the killers complaining do the same thing over and over again? Do you always play the same killer and same perks/items/add ons etc? If you don't choose the most optimum killer with the most optimum perks/items and add ons then the problem is more you than the game design.
I've been seeing people detroy with high ranked Hag's and Freddy's and they do it by not running the most popular perks/items/add ons.Some of the people that've commented about playing those champs have said how to do it but been ridiculed by some of the same people on here. I've been destroyed at high ranks by Trappers because they get the most out of them. Instead of going with that Mori because they see a steamer they use a map offering that's good for them.
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@Doom_Punk said:
Inb4 "you just played bad as killer, git gud, i can stomp any SWF team ezpz. if you can't control gens you suck"There's idiots that actually believe in this nonsense.
This is actually not far form the truth both sides f the argument, I've seen bad killer at high ranks use the swf group excuse when it's all solo players. I've also been stomped by swf sometimes by my own bad decisions and other time because they just flat out outplayed me.
The idiots are those that refuse to accept that there might be some truth to some of what's being said and some of those that believe everything that's said.
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I don't mind the nerf and I like to bring a medkit anyways that if a killer is too close i can use the medkit and sc when I'm super far away.
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@Master said:
@Techn0 said:
I saw an idea on the steam fourms that gave a debuff to hooked survivors for a certain period of time after being unhooked, their repair efficiency would be reduced by I believe the original poster said 25%. Making games longer and actively going against tunneling. I quite liked the idea. What do you all think?Sounds like the idea from truetalent, it was posted in this forum too and survivors bashed that idea
IT could work but it wouldn't stop tunneling since the killer knows it's an easy hook if they got say borrowed time automatically with a 5 second sb but then 50% reduced efficiency to gens being repaired for 2 mins. It shouldn't be overall efficiency since nurses calling and tunneling would still be an issue.
I don't think having a reduced efficiency after an unhook is an issue per se since being hooked is a traumatic experience. It's how do you ensure it doesn't make things worse since the killer will know if it's overall reduced efficiency that's an even easier kill.
At high ranks doctors, nurses, billy,s the main ones with shapes and huntresses not far behind simply camp outside of terror radius and watch for the unhook. Most of these campers aren't going after gen progress either even when a gen is being popped close to them. They're also running make your choice so they get 2 easy downs and sacs.
I like the idea of a sprint burst after unhook being super strong similar to a surge of adrenaline allowing you to run like a madman for x seconds say 10-15. But the cost of that is like normal you get really tired/exhausted and have to take time to recover. So a say 2 min exhaustion debuff that makes you take more time to repair but also can lessen your skill check success zones.
If you've got a toolbox it can mitigate that but only back up to what you would have normally depending on the item and addons. After 1 minute of exhaustion your skill check windows get larger but still below normal size. So if you try and repair during that 2 minute window you run the risk of blowing the gen up and letting the killer know where you're at.
Now to really make this fair for the killers while you're under the exhaustion debuff you can't use any other exhaustion causing debuffs so no SB or anything like that.Since if you did you'd probably die due to exhaustion/over doing it.
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@EpicFailTryHard said:
ok, i read all that. you should read your initial response. that sounds like it is above a caustic response? a bit odd. i will wait 20 minutes for solo players. testament to my level of desperation.At least you admit you're willing to wait a specified time, I'm hoping that they actually implement the dedicated servers with the duo option but not the harsh kind.
Go check this thread out where I discuss some possible solutions to the swf problem and if you can think of anything to improve it'd be helpful.
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@Visionmaker said:
@powerbats said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
i have made the observation as well. swf being the problem that killers face (16 perk equivalent for survivors) means killer buffs and survivors nerfs which inevitably screws the solo survivors. i have also noticed how much easier solo survivors are compared to swf.Wow good [BAD WORD] grief, you and the whiny 16 perks nonsense. You're facing 4 perks most of them the exact same ones. It's almost always sc/sb/ds/ue sometimes one is swappedout. So stop using that whiny lame ass excuse it's as bad as the cheating excuse which the devs have said it isn't cheating.
Yes wf gives and advantage as does voice but you and a few others will whine no matter what unless you get 4 sacs every game it seems.
Hey, can I borrow your DS? I used three of them already. Swap you for your Self-Care! Could use another 50% healing.
I'd give you one but I never bring it so you're out of luck but that was yet another failed attempt at an insult.
@EpicFailTryHard said:
seriously...stfu.It's funny that you can't argue your points without resorting to histrionics and insults every time which just makes it look like the problem isn't swf but something else entirely. We can all agree the killer needs buffs but the devs aren't going to give you a 4 sac game every game power level. It's not going to ever happen and they're not removing swf ever.
If they ever do put in a opt out I'd hope they make it a 1 time deal and you're stuck in that queue solo only. You don't like solo only lobby times well too bad. That said dedicated servers would allow them to have a queue you prefer either solo only or a open lobby.
YOu'd get your choice and if you didn't like your lobby times you could go for the other lobby but have to accept you might get matched up with swf. But if you choose to do both then you accept you can't dodge at that point without facing a ban. There needs to be a risk for the reward you're going to get at that point.
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@EpicFailTryHard said:
i have made the observation as well. swf being the problem that killers face (16 perk equivalent for survivors) means killer buffs and survivors nerfs which inevitably screws the solo survivors. i have also noticed how much easier solo survivors are compared to swf.Wow good ######### grief, you and the whiny 16 perks nonsense. You're facing 4 perks most of them the exact same ones. It's almost always sc/sb/ds/ue sometimes one is swappedout. So stop using that whiny lame ass excuse it's as bad as the cheating excuse which the devs have said it isn't cheating.
Yes wf gives and advantage as does voice but you and a few others will whine no matter what unless you get 4 sacs every game it seems.
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@Eninya said:
People still spend $60 for games by Electronic Arts, and they get a lot less value of it than Dead by Daylight at $20.This and they'll gladly for over $60 for a console game then have to pay a ton for dlc from the vendors. The older killers are reduced prices because they're old.
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@Outland said:
Now this post I like, good points and counter points, as well as showing you understand that the Killer is currently getting a short stick. And that changes are needed. I totally agree with you on these points.
What gets my back up in these conversations, is the "WELL THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, GET GUD AND ADAPT" And then the conversation boils down to the basics about the absolute cause of the imbalances. (You and I have been over them so we'll leave that dog lie)
Here's hoping they can balance the game somehow so that all sides are happy.
Oh I agree and like I said if we can get past the histrionics on both sides and debate the pro's and the cons and come to some middle ground. We'd be more likely to get the devs attention and perhaps their input. How do you balance one side that so that the other side isn't feeling castrated so to speak? Both sides need to give and take for this to work out.
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@Delfador said:
@powerbats said:
I'll have to look and last time pre reset of recently Not_Queen was playing at the rank 1-3 level I think. One of her followers asked who'd win her or 1 of the devs and she said the dev would celan the floor with her. She also commented that several of them play at high ranks so that they cn know the issues and are hardore players.Somebody sent the video I was talking about. I also said that the devs who are playing the game are an important factor too. Queen is a community manager and doesn't have as much power as cote has and judging from the video cote is not a high rank player.
Dude, if any of the devs who can do something about the balance of the game played the game we wouldn't discuss this topic. You can be a survivor main or a killer main but you can't say that without ruin the game lasts long. It is unnaturally short and frustrating for killers.
I'll have to dig through the video where she talks about the 1 dev being way better than her and i've seen high ranks killers just leave me facepalming.
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As a Trapper main I demand all my fellow killers go on strike against the entity and refuse to hit and or down or sacrifice any survivors until we get treated better. I want holiday pay and paid sick leave and not to be treated so badly. I want survivors to bring marshmallows to roast when I camp them and the entity to provide me with a tent.
I want paid time off, lunch breaks, and I also want to so many other things as a killer and I refuse to be mean until my demands are met !!!!!!
Mistreated killers unite !!!!!!!!!
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I'll have to look and last time pre reset of recently Not_Queen was playing at the rank 1-3 level I think. One of her followers asked who'd win her or 1 of the devs and she said the dev would celan the floor with her. She also commented that several of them play at high ranks so that they cn know the issues and are hardore players.
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@Outland While you may not have said you agree with it, you implied you'd be okay with a hack.
Unless and until the devs call it cheating it won't be cheating that's the end all and be all of voice and swf.As far as wanting balance we can all agree on that and that overall killers need more. I've posted many suggesting on how to buff killers versus swf while not nuking the solo queue players. Most of the suggestions that I've seen from those asking for opt outs and or buffs versus swf would be broken towards solo players.
I play swf to have fun and laugh and cringe when we do good and bad as do my friends. If we get outplayed we congratulate the killer if we do the outplay we still say gg and talk about times we almost got caught. Most groups are like that, it's the fringes that cause the most issue.
My side isn't about keeping an advantage but finding a common ground that most of both sides can agree too. Your problem and a big chunk of the rest of you is you lumo everyone into the same group and use the same insults etc.
I want killers to be more powerful but I also don't want them to be so powerful they insta gib pretty much every rank group. That's especially true for the low ranks where high rank killers after reset take out their frustration and be jerks to newbies thereby making some of said newbies toxic at higher ranks.
When I'm playing at low ranks after a reset and I run into brand new or inexperienced players i try and teach them how to play better. I don't camp ever, I punish the bad mistakes but try and let them learn from it. I'll still down and hook them of course. I've been complimented after most of my games for being cool and not being a jerk.
On occasion I've run into more experienced players who I played against and who remembered me from 2 seasons ago and they were thankful for howe i played. I've even played with some on survivor side and met some cool people that I know play swf with on occasion.
I believe that if the opt out people stop with the histrionics and the insults and post pro's and cons of their ideas they'll find a much more receptive audience.
Read the below where I break a lot of conversations down and go through both pro's and cons and how to mitigate if possible any problems.
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@Envees said:
Dont need to have a programm> @fcc2014 said:@pauloandrade22 said:
I remember the times i have versed SWF . Its either a toxicity fest ( the worst one), an 6 or less minute game with me getting one due to hardcamp ( also extremely unfun/frustating) a suicide/dc squad ( my personal favourites for winning) But my favorites are the MEME Squads like a full pizza dwight or the cultist SWF group that i met too. THOSE ARE THE TRUE TREASURES OF SWF . Unfortunally most are the toxicity fest. Why cant you guys meme more often. I even let those teams win because they make me laugh and have fun .
My favorite was My Michael vs Pizza Dwights. I set it to Backstreet Boys.
Beyonce's I am a Survivor for Claudette i think was better.
How much friggen fun this game could be with some tweaks. Make killers less friggen frustrating please.
I always hear jaws music playing in my head when aMyers starts stalking and if I turn and it's me he's behind it gets louder and faster lol. If you could add sound effects like say from mortal Kombat for Mori's that'd be sweet. Anything along those lines would make it so much funner for both sides.
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Actually the fix is to never rank above 16, that way you can derank to 20 and then back to 16 and repeat.
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@Outland said:
And you keep using that advantage over other players, cause that is legit. Killers play by the rules designed into their actual game, and you use third party software to CHEAT.
And if they gave Killers an option to play your version of legit or skip it, they would always skip it because when it boils down, its not fair.
Blah blah blah , adapt, I'll dodge everything that looks fishy. I don't have a lot of time to play. I'm sure as hell not going to let opponents that are using other software to make my game less fun in my lobbies.
You want to pray that someone doesn't come up with a utility that can rat out SWF groups, because if that ever lands....your version of legit is so gone.
You can keep on whining all you want IT'S NOT CHEATING the devs have said it, it's not listed as a cheating program and nothing you say will change that fact. I could care less if someone knows it's a swf group or not you just want to use that as an excuse.
As the other killer mains on here have said, they don't have a problem and they adapt. The only thing doing is proving what the other killers mains and the survivors mains are saying. You're just looking for excuses because you refuse to adapt and get better.
You want to dodge lobbies go ahead and keep doing that, it won't change anything all except prove what's been said. If someone comes up with a software to rat out swf wouldn't that amount to cheating as you call it? Since the devs have said swf isn't cheating either yet you'd be fine with a rat out software.
So you just proved you're a total and complete whiny hypocrite since you'd be fine with someone using a hacking program to detect swf groups. Since the only way to do that is to scan the games memory and or program illegitimately which is in fact hacking aka cheating.
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@Outland said:
From the description of a PARMA BAN offense.
Any third party software that is not whitelisted and affords an advantage over another player.
This is Discord dead on. If Discord is cool, then whitelist it, it'll take one email to EAC to have it added to the list. And I'll shut up about it.
So by BHVR's own documents, its cheating my man. It would be SO easy for BHVR to pull the trigger and whitelist Discord, ask yourself why they don't.
Devs have stated it's not cheating and the fact you can't accept the fact they don't care to change the parma doc or whitelist it is on you. It doesn't matter what you say or how you try and word it or twist it. It's not cheating because the devs have said it isn't cheating.
When they says it's cheating and only when they say it's cheating will it be cheating an because they've said it isn't cheating you'll keep on using that a sa crutch excuse. Bt go ahead and keep on using that lame excuse for yours and the other killers that refuse to adapt or change in any way shape or form.
https://youtu.be/d6zWOMBmstM