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@Outland said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Outland said:
Been over this a hundred times. BHVR can not stop voice comms. And for them to say comms is cheating but we can't stop it just makes them look bad. If they truly considered voice comms as not cheating then they would go ahead and whitelist Discord. But low and behold Discord IS NOT whitelisted.They didn't whitelist Google Chrome and my super sneaky perk googling either.
ARREST ME OFFICER
Point is , third party software that gives an unfair advantage, that isn't on the white list is a perma-ban offense. If you go on only pure logic and yes or no answers you would have to agree.
Discord is
1) A third party piece of software ... true
2) Not on the white list ... true
3) Used by SWF groups to gain a very unfair advantage over another player ... trueBut hey its ok, you just keep on doing what you do and screw the other people, its all good they can just get gud, and you can crutch it up.
Ok but if someones running discord do you know for a fact they're in group? If you're not BHVR you don't and everytime a solo queue destroys or gets out with 1 or 2 sacs only the killer flames about swf. I did a lot of solo before reset and got to rank 3 and yet killers there would non stop whine about swf even when no one was grouped.
If they got 3-4 sacs it was ez, if they got wrecked it was swf scrubs the ez was while playing Billy or Nurse on Coldwind or Doctor on Gideons. Most of my game sar esolo and I play with lower ranked friends for fun. We still try and win and beat the killer but if we get outplayed we congratulate the killer.
What happens when a solo queue is using Discord to talk to a friend outside of game which I do all the time as do others I know.Oh the system has detected you're using Discord oh noes you get kicked. What about the people who either don't have a mic or it's busted but are in Discord or Skype, or Ventrilo etc?
Do you think that the survivors in game if it was real wouldn't be fing communicating before at the campfire or when they huddle together? It's time you decide you either uninstall the game and quit bitching about it, or keep bitching about it and keep dodging lobbies.
Because eventually those dodges are going to start being punished like most games do, if you keep dodging games you start getting time penalties. Oh and don't give me the forced to swf group crap, I see it happen in solo queue all the time. The killer see's a single flashlight, dodge, 1 flashlight and or 2 tool boxes, dodge. If they see any comp they don't like where they gasp might have to actually work or play a more optimal killer then their favorite they dodge. Don't want to have to take perks to counter what they're bringing, dodge etc ad nauseum.
This am I had 10 straight lobbies dodged because gasp 1 person had a flashlight and or 1 toolbox was there. When I finally got a lobby the killer adapted and chose a more optimal killer with perks to counter what our group was. They got a 4 sac game.
All I see are excuses when you don't actually know if it's a swf group at all and in fact the devs if they ever decided to could post the statistics for all the dodges and how many were swf and what size groups. Did you choose the most optimal killer for the match, did you choose the best items/addons/perks. But more likely you refused because you only wanted to run your favorite killer/perks/items/addons.
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@Tombstone218 said:
did you literally not read what i responded with you illiterate [BAD WORD], i don't care if you grease my dick up with the admiration of my hours, i'm literally only saying that so that you can actually consider what i say instead of dismissing me as another rank 20 survivor main who needs to git gud or some bullshit like that
He doesn't care, you could be the worlds number 1 killer and master of all saying the same thing it won't matter. He'll resort to insults and petty crybaby tactics if you disagree with him. If you confront him with facts then he resorts to even more insults and tempter tantrums like a 2 year old stomping their feet in a corner.
He's probably never once actually put forth any constructive ideas on how to solve anything and when challenged on this it's insults galore.
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Harassment exists at all ranks and both solo and swf it's a fact of every online game really. Sadly we've got the COD crowd infesting the game at least until the new game comes out. Well that or until the devs start mass ban waves similar to Overwatch is doing now.
That could be why they're working on a new and better system to automate it similar to what blizzard has done. I for one refuse to tea bag a killer unless they're being a total douche bag then i'll screw with them.
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Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.
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@Vortexas said:
Yes it is a Viable Strat.Some killers can do it better than others though.
I'd say for 3 Genning you'd want..
Doc, Huntress, Nurse, or HIllbilly.
Depending on the map Doctor is the most strong for it with the gen denial build making it the hardest.
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@Jack11803 said:
Why exactly is this a reply to me? I have nothing to do with this
It was directed at me since he couldn't refute my points and decided that insults would work and they still failed. The true killers out there don't fear SWF groups and won't dodge, the wimps and whiners that don't want challenges will.
As a Trapper main I could careless about 4 flashlights or whether it's a SWF group, I'm still going to try and kill them. The whiners just want an easy game and anything that's challenging to them is called cheating. If they can't handle it they should uninstall because they can spam from now till the world blows up, SWF isn't going anywhere nor is a separate queue coming.
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@Vortexas said:
@powerbats said:
@Vortexas said:
Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.
Then play without any perks and or items and addons. If you're going to need that stuff to carry you to victory then you shouldn't be playing as a killer. The entity would say that to you if it saw your post since you're not supposed to fing care.
I play both solo and swf and some of it's to rank up and other is just to have fun and the whiny spoiled rottenness of killer is astounding right now. I've been doing a lot of solo queue and the moment they see a single tool box and or flashlight they dodge 90% of the time.
When I play killer I could care less, i''ll take you on regardless and sometimes I'll win and sometimes i'll lose but at least I tried and didn't wimp out. It's like playing the killer has now become oh it's a difficult group screw this wimp out. The new changes are a positive and there'll be more to come for both sides.
But if you want to opt out then simply stop playing the game as a killer because it's not going to happen. When 70% of the player base is swf and you opt out then you're going to be in lobby for 30 minutes to an hour if not longer.
The devs aren't going to cave to a vocal small minority of killers that want this and have already stated it many times and constantly spamming the forums with whine threads like this makes all the ones doing it look childish. Instead get constructive and give ideas and break down how those ideas would work. What would your ideas do and what are it's pluses and minuses? How do you improve on those ideas and mitigate any issues?
If you can't do any of those last things then better uninstall now because you're not getting what you want anytime ever. Those are simply how the numbers game work. You can say queue times will go up but the devs will simply do something to attract killers to lobbies like bp events etc.
I found the entitled Survivor Main.
You spilled some again.Translation you can't refute anything I posted so resort to the usual insults. You just proved my point about being a whiny entitled killer.
I main trapper on killer side and enjoy him thoroughly along with Pig. If I was the entity I'd bslap your whiny spoiled entitled ass and send you to killer school for babies. If you don't have anything to show how to fix things then you'll yet again prove my point.
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@Beardedragon said:
@Siggerad said:
If the killer is camping, face camping, he just move 2m and back is camping too, etc; give survivors BP this maybe prevent a lot of DC; with less dc more BP for the killers too.if survivors gets BPs for being hooked, i will officially stop playing the game.
It'd only work if the killer is camping the hook and only for gen progress done and gates being powered. You'd base it off a hidden killer terror radius neither side would know but could be x amount of hooked victim. Some killer simply go just out of terror radius and camp with M&A and then wait for someone to come into view while others just hard camp.
I don't have an issue with camping someone once the gates are powered but camping at 1st hook and then just standing there nodding and smacking the hooked person is just being an ass.
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@Vortexas said:
Play without need 3 other people and voice chat to carry you.
Then play without any perks and or items and addons. If you're going to need that stuff to carry you to victory then you shouldn't be playing as a killer. The entity would say that to you if it saw your post since you're not supposed to fing care.
I play both solo and swf and some of it's to rank up and other is just to have fun and the whiny spoiled rottenness of killer is astounding right now. I've been doing a lot of solo queue and the moment they see a single tool box and or flashlight they dodge 90% of the time.
When I play killer I could care less, i''ll take you on regardless and sometimes I'll win and sometimes i'll lose but at least I tried and didn't wimp out. It's like playing the killer has now become oh it's a difficult group screw this wimp out. The new changes are a positive and there'll be more to come for both sides.
But if you want to opt out then simply stop playing the game as a killer because it's not going to happen. When 70% of the player base is swf and you opt out then you're going to be in lobby for 30 minutes to an hour if not longer.
The devs aren't going to cave to a vocal small minority of killers that want this and have already stated it many times and constantly spamming the forums with whine threads like this makes all the ones doing it look childish. Instead get constructive and give ideas and break down how those ideas would work. What would your ideas do and what are it's pluses and minuses? How do you improve on those ideas and mitigate any issues?
If you can't do any of those last things then better uninstall now because you're not getting what you want anytime ever. Those are simply how the numbers game work. You can say queue times will go up but the devs will simply do something to attract killers to lobbies like bp events etc.
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Just to be up front my profile is private not because I'm always swf but because I got tired of people being jerks. No one needs to know those on my friends list or anything else about me etc. I try and have my items ready before hand most of the time whether solo or swf.
I usually ready up early unless the killers ping keeps jumping then I watch for the spikes to be safe. I have to agree with @Hillbilly420 on teh killer needing to see stuff, they're supposed to have an advantage. The only thing I'd add is solo queue might talk about it do they do this offering or that item etc.
One thing I think is no one should see anyone else's offering from either side so that that way it's an unknown.
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The hitbox ahs been wonky since 2.0 compared to before. I've had axes hit me around corners yet I hear it hit masonry and could even see where it hit said masonry. I've seen huntresses stand at base of mounds and throw hitting bottom but nailing a survivor hiding behind the edge where they can't even be seen.
I've been nailed and watched it happen where someone vaults a window and is 3 feet out past it and get hit by an attack. Before 2.0 hitboxes were pretty consistent. Now the Clown has a larger hitbox lunge range than anyone except the Pig ambush and the chainsaws with extended reach.
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Most forums are like that where Steam forums are king and the main game forums are the red headed stepchild. It'll change eventually as the game gets older and better with a bigger player base.
Edit: I just realized I have even less of a life than @Tsulan if we're going off of post count and 500+ comments badges. The few the proud the no life badge winners !!!!!
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You obviously read because you responded to it and the fact you didn't like being shown you misquoted me horribly and never corrected it speaks volumes about you.
The bottom line the small but vocal minorities on both sides will whine no matter what as evidenced by the person who still won't admit he's wrong.
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@Hillbilly420 said:
@powerbats said:
Translation: You didn't read because didn't want to let facts smack you in the face and get an opinion that gasp didn't agree with you. I don't ue unbreakable and most swf groups don't use it.
You said "Whispers is OP and should be removed!" So your opinion is completely invalid to me and I'm not going to waste my time reading your essay.
Did you actually think before you posted, no where did I ever say it was op and needed to be removed. You said they could remove whispers because you don't need it not me. Why not go back and reread what I said about it being op atm because it's broken. NOW TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T MISS IT I NEVER SAID REMOVE WHISPERS.
Here's exactly what I said.
(INTENSE SARCASM BELOW)
**> Here's a solution, remove DS and unbreakable from the game **then anytime a killer camps the hook in any shape form or fashion they get perma banned. How's that for feel, you get rid of 2 of the most whiny perks we get rid of jerks that like to camp 1st hook. Both sides get rid of their biggest complaints and have nothing left to complain about.
Now if you'd actually paid attention instead of trying to twist what I said because you got mad at the fact I showed the hypocrisy of what you said. Then you'd have seen I never said that. So once again you tried and failed to not only insult me but twist my words.
From now on until you can prove otherwise you've shown you're no better than some of the trolls on here with your insults and word twistings.
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@Zarathos said:
Ok so hold on a cheery picking minute are you saying if i choose to guard the gens instead of chasing the legacy Claudette who just sprint bursted away to a heavily loopable spot like the tree that I'm holding the game hostage. Now that some entitled bullshit. you need to bait the killer away not give him a reason to return to the gens. I was in a game with a billy who we got 3 gen strated and one of us deliberately put her ass in danger to buy us enough time to complete the gen. This was a huge gamble that payed off and we got the exits and got out. Did she die, yes she did. But someone has to take the fall for that mistake. If every survivour is too scared to go for gens then you can't beat the strat but if you all risk your lives you can win a 3 gen strat provided you have at least 3 survivors.
As long as you're actually trying to hit and or down to hook it's not but if all you're doing is running back and forth that's different. In several of my games one of us has sacrificed to get the gens done. But if you're not actively trying to hit survivors you're holding the game hostage. It's no different than blocking in the basement and yet not going for anyone.
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@Hillbilly420 said:
I skimmed, didn't read. I hate Unbreakable, it's always used with an SWF group, I'm not changing my opinion.
Translation: You didn't read because didn't want to let facts smack you in the face and get an opinion that gasp didn't agree with you. I don't ue unbreakable and most swf groups don't use it.
But guess what? They could take away all the Killer tracking perks. We don't need BBQ, Whispers, whatever else. Remove NOED too. IDGAF. I don't need Whispers or BBQ to find people it just makes it easier.
Most killers won't play without those, even at really high ranks although the really good killers don't rely on those.
The fact that you say "Whispers is OP!" Say's everything. But the fact that you got triggered when someone doesn't like Unbreakable was just especially amusing.
**No the fact that I say whispers is op atm is because it is, on large maps killers are running right at survivors even without bbq or any other aura reading perk.. Oh and I didn't get triggered over your whiny post. But apparently you did by my response when you said you didn't read it which obviously you did.
You got upset because I pointed out the hypocrisy of your complaints and now you're trying the good old Straw Man failed logical fallacy again.You made a rant post and got called out for it and now are trying to make it look like I'm the triggered one. Tried and failed miserably,
I don't run unbreakable nor ds and still managed to get to rank 3 survivor before reset. This despite getting hard camped 1st hook by killers simply nodding heads non stop and hitting me on hook trying to trigger me into dying quicker. This despite getting griefed by duo's or other survivors who didn't want someone else to live when they screwed up.
As a killer I'v never ever camped anyone even though they probably deserved it, nor nodded my head at someone on the hook to taunt them and be an asshat. The fact is you got whiny and got triggered when you got called out for being whiny.
Now I'm sure you'll say you didn't read it again yet manage to someone how respond to certain segments of my post. That or you'll do the typical troll response and didn't read it type.**
Opinions are like rear ends everyone has them and we can agree on some things and disagree on others, but seriously lets keep the entitled attitudes out of post. This especially after calling out the other side for the same thing.
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@Hillbilly420 said:
@Runiver said:
You should also get more BP for being on a hook, as well as double pip if you get fully camped.
And escape points since dying is sort of an escape (even tho it's not)
Fair stuff.I think if they manage to Kobe that should automatically put them on death hook status. It's absolutely ridiculous that they have a chance at getting away, you have to chase their ass back down again, hook them again, and you still have to wait a minute and a half or whatever for them to finally die.
Also, feck Unbreakable. I hate that perk too. The number of times where I've slugged 3, go after the last guy, only for a Kobe or Unbreakable to completely take that away from me is ridiculous.
Why aren't Killers told they have Unbreakable like we're told they have DS? Oh wait, we're only told if ONE guy has DS and not all of them because reasons...
Wow talk about entitled survivors with that kind of entitled whiny ass rant. Wah teh survivors are trying to live by unhooking themselves, wah they're using a 1 time use perk. Most people that kobe get killed either by a no skill camper who waits just outside terror radius or uses insidious. That or or they get hard tunneled because gasp THEY WOULDN'T JUST DIE AND GIVE YOU A FREE KILL !!!!
I mean good grief it's like why don't they just all go under a hook and wait for you to hook theme very game and then commit suicide. Then don't struggle so you can get your free points and not gasp have to actually play the game, I mean if I was the entity I'd bslap you so hard and send you back to baby killer school.
You hate ds and unbreakable well get the big boy pants on because survivors hate bbq, they hate whispers which is completely busted atm, they hate ruin which certain killer camp. We also hate noed, we hate etc etc etc.
We hate not getting notifications that killers are running something until we find out the hard way. I mean killers are always saying always assume noed/bbq etc are present in each and every match. Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander as the saying goes.
What's absolutely ridiculous is the sense of entitlement from killers like you and survivors who feel the game should be handed to them. They don't want the other side to actually make things hard and work towards their objectives.
(INTENSE SARCASM BELOW)
Here's a solution, remove DS and unbreakable from the game then anytime a killer camps the hook in any shape form or fashion they get perma banned. How's that for feel, you get rid of 2 of the most whiny perks we get rid of jerks that like to camp 1st hook. Both sides get rid of their biggest complaints and have nothing left to complain about.
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@DukeJukem said:
just let it die man. you're telling me the time you're allowed to take while moving or the length of the game isn't a part of the basic ruleset? just let it die man.......lol
No I'm telling you that you're logical fallacy arguments didn't help you. The basic rules of the game were and still are there long before and after tournaments were done. the pawn can only move forward, not backwards nor sideways no matter what you try and say. The King can't move more than 1 space ever no matter what you say, those are the basic rules of the game and tournaments don't and haven't ever changed that.
Your Straw Mans and Red Herrings have failed you miserably and now you're just grasping at straws trying to save face literally. you're not fooling anyone here and in fact are just digging yourself in deeper with each more foolish deflection and insult.
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@SYSTEM_GLITCH said:
Maybe you need better Internet, and I'm not being a smart ass. I've been playing since beta, and maybe... MAYBE encountered 2 or 4 people lag switching. I jsut don't buy that it is this common.I have even been accused of lag switching with a nearly perfect connection, so to me people are clearly confusing bad Internet with cheating.
For me great internet, never been accused of lag switching as killer but it does exist and time of day seems to be a better indicator of it. But dedicated severs would solve a lot of problems.
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@DukeJukem said:
@powerbats said:
@DukeJukem said:
@powerbats said:
@DukeJukem said:
@powerbats said:
May I recommend games that don't change the rules like Checkers or Chess and avoid any and all online games since they tend to change.You'd best stick with solo desktop games like solitaire since that one never changes the rules of how to play. If Darwin's theory wasn't proven before this post it has after.
actually if you've ever played chess or checkers you'd know that both of those games start with a certain set of rules and depending how the game is played the rules change throughout the game. moreso in chess than checkers, but nice try.
Actually the base rules you play by don't ever change so in fact it's actually a valid point I made.
that's all well and good.........but i don't care lol. the rules in chess change. even the base rules under certain circumstances (tournaments etc.) do you have one of those portable nooses handy i mentioned in my main post? hand it to your mom real quick
If you don't care then why'd you respond? The base rules never change though, the pieces all can only move in certain ways ever. Also nice logical fallacy attempt there since tournaments were never brought up until you did as a diversion.
Oh and here.
So don't let that uninstall button hurt your finger.even though we all know you'll keep playing the game while bashing the changes on the forums.
the base rules in chess change when you're in a tournament game. for example. you have a time limit in tournaments as to how long the match is allowed to last and how long you are allowed to take when moving your pieces. therefore the basic set of rules has changed, due to a tournament. i used to do chess tournaments lol. lame yes im sure, but i know about chess. the basic rules of chess can change and i just told you how. therefore..........im not wrong. sorry dude. look it up if u dont believe me.
Yet the base rules of how the game operates still never change, for instance a pawn can't move sideways unless it's taking another piece, a castle can't move like a queen etc. So in fact the base rules never actually change. I know about tournaments i used to do them as well. The rules you're talking about don't affect the actual base rules underpinning the entire game.
So if we look at the facts yes you're wrong still, the base rules never change, the pieces can only ever move in the ways the rules state. Bringing up time limits and such to deflect doesn't change the facts. The base rules are still there and don't change.
If we look at DBD the base rules aka mechanics of the game haven't changed it's do gens to get out and hook survivors to keep them in. There isn't a online game out that that hasn't changed since it's come ut. There's always changes and change is a fact of life. The fact that you don't like these changes is on you.
We can debate the merits of the changes but most people don't have an issue with them and will adapt as always. It's the same with life, things change and most people adapt and the same is true for the animal and plant world.
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I demand they also ban camping because they refuse to bring tents and a campfire so I can at least toast my marshmallows while I'm camped !!!!!!
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@Master said:
@Skorpanio said:
Seriously, I've had enough of these As5h0les, I've recently went on a lag switcher streak.
And I managed to get 8 lag switchers in a row. Please put an end to this!Why are we still here?
Just to suffer?Video proof?
In my whole DBD career I have occured 3 lagg switchers.
I guess you are talking about laggspikes which is completley fine, dont forget that this is a P2P gameActually the lag switchers have been getting worse lately and I've had my share of videos I've taken where everything is fine then you get frozen and then speed up. But it only happens when the killer is in a chase, and when the chase ends it's super smooth again.
I've played in 4 man swf groups and we've all had good latency and connections from same area of country and different isps yet magically you get rubber banded. What's even more frustrating is when you comment on the spikes occasionally even nicely they brag about it. The hackers are the same way when they run across map insta downing or use aura hacks.
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@RemoveSWF said:
Marth left because he's still being a baby about losing that tournament.Good riddance.
I was wondering how long it'd be before that came up, let me grab my popcorn as all the fanboys come in and flame you now.
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@DukeJukem said:
@powerbats said:
@DukeJukem said:
@powerbats said:
May I recommend games that don't change the rules like Checkers or Chess and avoid any and all online games since they tend to change.You'd best stick with solo desktop games like solitaire since that one never changes the rules of how to play. If Darwin's theory wasn't proven before this post it has after.
actually if you've ever played chess or checkers you'd know that both of those games start with a certain set of rules and depending how the game is played the rules change throughout the game. moreso in chess than checkers, but nice try.
Actually the base rules you play by don't ever change so in fact it's actually a valid point I made.
that's all well and good.........but i don't care lol. the rules in chess change. even the base rules under certain circumstances (tournaments etc.) do you have one of those portable nooses handy i mentioned in my main post? hand it to your mom real quick
If you don't care then why'd you respond? The base rules never change though, the pieces all can only move in certain ways ever. Also nice logical fallacy attempt there since tournaments were never brought up until you did as a diversion.
Oh and here.
So don't let that uninstall button hurt your finger.even though we all know you'll keep playing the game while bashing the changes on the forums.
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@DukeJukem said:
@powerbats said:
May I recommend games that don't change the rules like Checkers or Chess and avoid any and all online games since they tend to change.You'd best stick with solo desktop games like solitaire since that one never changes the rules of how to play. If Darwin's theory wasn't proven before this post it has after.
actually if you've ever played chess or checkers you'd know that both of those games start with a certain set of rules and depending how the game is played the rules change throughout the game. moreso in chess than checkers, but nice try.
Actually the base rules you play by don't ever change so in fact it's actually a valid point I made.
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May I recommend games that don't change the rules like Checkers or Chess and avoid any and all online games since they tend to change.
You'd best stick with solo desktop games like solitaire since that one never changes the rules of how to play. If Darwin's theory wasn't proven before this post it has after.
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I can understand playing the long game totally, it's just when you chase for 5 feet or so but don't actually swing or swing without actually caring whether it hits or not. On some maps it's super easy to just camp and leave all the other gens alone Pale Rose being a good one and Lery's is another.
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@MandyTalk said:
In corn maps someone could be wearing the brightest clothing - I still wouldn't be able to see them, am totally corn blind!In general I find the dark olive clothes harder to spot than the black clothes - they seem to blend in better to the background, especially one of the Feng Mings new cosmetics.
Thank you, which just validates my point about super dark clothes which in fact work opposite of the way camouflage works. As @Khroalthemadbomber said about Ace's clothes the same is true for some of the other ones. Bill is a nightmare to find sometimes since he blends in so well if done right. While Dark Green Claudette is a pain on swamp the key thing here is this.
You don't know what map you're actually going to get when you pick your clothes unless you're doing an offering and 1 or more people choose the same 1. That Olive Green Claudette is great on Swamp but on Giedon's, Lery's and a few others it's a Free Kill here flashing Neon sign with arrows for the killer.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.
It is not and we have confirmation, I dare to provide official source stating otherwise.
The killer objective is to kill survivors and to prevent them from doing gens.
Protecting his gens is not holding the game hostageIn fact, survivors that dont try to do gens if the doc 3-gen strats them, are holding the game hostage becuase they are not doing their objective and are just hiding somewhere
There was a dev stream can't remember the one but I'll try and find it where they discussed that because you're not actually trying to hook survivors. It's similar to simply blocking someone in the basement but not whacking them.
By the argument of not letting them do gens only and not actively even trying to kill them then the killer isn't fulfilling their objective are they? If the killer only does 1 of the 2 in'st that the same as simply blocking them in the basement abut not hitting them? Both actions keep them from doing gens and both actions don't fulfil the objective of hooking.
We know for an absolute fact that in 1 dev stream they've said that blocking the basement strategy is bannable. So again why would you say 1 is okay when the other isn't? Now if I'm wrong then I apologize about the 1st strategy since i might've misunderstood them.
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
I've never seen anybody talking trash on solo players. Is this common?I get it all the time from either other solo players, swf, killers and on ehre from the elitists.
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BT does seem to be bugged atm, I've only got Bill just now above 20 but using it on him and it didn't always seem to go off. Also as I stated the gens on some maps only allow 1 or 2 ppl if that and if it's a Nurse forget it, 3-4 blinks whack, back to camp repeat.
I did a Springfield as Meg against a wraith earlier, did some gens but not much since I healed and totem'd as well as sab'd hooks in case they got downed near him. Now even though I did some good healing I didn't pip and evader was bronze since I got hit exiting gate protecting someone. He'd never chased me before that yet I still got screwed despiste being in his terror radius trying to decoy/obstruct.
It's one thing not to pip due to killer just outplaying but quite another when the emblems and map gen locations screw you over.
As I've said before you can do zero gens and go for unhooks and killer can get 4k but with altruism offering and even wglf 2 unhooks pips you with it. IF you do 3 or more and even heal you're godlike with altruism points and can even dbl pip despite zero gens done.
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@Shipthebread said:
I don't need to read anything you posted, if you posted what I quoted it tells me enough about you. You don't know how to play since the changes in emblems. You can simply just heal a teammate and that would be enough. You don't need to yolo unhook.
Translation you can't refute my points just like the other 2 and since you can't get healing points if you can't heal the person on the hook your point is invalid. If you get hit you can heal but it doesn't make up for the 1k for the initial hook and each time a person gets hooked you lose points.
If you're smart and only work on gens by yourself you won't get as much as if you did gens with someone else and got an unhook. I managed to get to level 3 and almost 2 so I do know how to play and probably would've gotten to level 1 if not for all the rage quitters and griefers.
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@Amanda55 said:
Why shouldn't survivors get punished for bad unhooks?? If someone else's stupidity cost a fellow survivor to be downed and hooked for a second time punishment is due for their mistakes.
Because survivors have to go for that unhook if they want to pip due to reasons mentioned in above posts.
@Shipthebread said:
Keep lying to yourself, you don't need that. But as long as you continue to convince yourself of your lie you can feel better.
So go ahead and keep taking your own advice and keep lying to yourself and ignoring the valid points i made in above posts. The truth and facts will get through to you eventually. I'd post screenshots of all the messed up gens but then you might actually get fact slapped to hard.
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@AsePlayer said:
@Swiftblade131 said:
Then stop bombing the hook. If you keep doing this, then new killers will see that it works in the form of, "They come to me instead of me going to them."So instead of whining and complaining, how about taking some initiative and punish them for camping instead of rewarding them. Simple as that.
I wouldn't divebomb the hook if pipping didn't rely on at least 1 or 2 unhook(s) per game.
This you could do zero gens but do unhooks and still pip even if all 4 get sac'd. As long as survivors get punished by someone camping this won't get fixed. The moment survivors stop getting penalized they'll stop going for the unhook and camping will mostly vanish pre gates powered.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Pretty sure you can pip up not having saved anyone or healing. Assuming you get a fair number of points generators and chase
You can but on quite a few maps it's really difficult since there's competition to do gens and some people purposely screw up the skill check to make you leave. Again Lery's has 2-4 gens that only allow 1 person to do them and both Father Campbells chapel and Crotus Prenn also have several where only 1 or 2 can do them. Autohaven and it's variations have several where it's 1 or 2 only even ones that should have 2 only allow 1.
It won't change until they either force killers to earn more points by not camping or stop penalizing survivors for someone getting hooked. Since wglf encourages hook farming and so do other perks. They also need to fix it so that gens have at least 3 if not 4 sides more often so 1 person isn't the odd 1 out so often. While that could speed up gen rushing with the bnp changes along with aura changes that won't be as much of an issue.
If they remove the camping penalty for survivors killers won't get anyone to take the bait so often and they'll have to finally stop camping. If you really want to add insult give the camped person more bp for each % progress on gens done while camped. That way teh campee doesn't get penalized for the killers bad play and the killer doesn't get the last laugh because they screwed one person over.
The last part would be only until the exit gates are powered, but at least the bait would get some reward for being said bait and wasting the killers time. Like Boldness points only bait points lol.
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Actually if you want camping to stop being so rewarding then stop punishing survivors for having to go for the unhook. You currently need altruism points of some kind to pip safely by doing an unhook, even an unsafe one. Because on certain maps Lery's I'm looking at you there's multiple gens where only 1 person can work on them. There's several other maps where that's an issue as well and even ones that have multiple sides can't be worked on.
As long as the emblem system forces survivors to be altruistic and punishes them for someone being hooked then they'll be forced to go for the camper. You also have campers that can camp just fr enough away from the hook to be outside the terror radius but still camp.
The Nurse, Billy, Clown even the Shape and Freddy can all camp just out of terror radius but get back to the hook either before the unhook happens or just as it does. On small maps Nurse and Billy are nightmares for this or anything with wide open areas like Coldwind.
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You can get banned if all your're doing is just chasing them off the gens but not actually trying to harm them.. That's considered holding the game hostage by the devs themselves. I was on the Pale Rose map against a Doctor that used that strategy where the 3 gens were really close together. He always keep people off those with a super extended terror radius. While he did hook and sac 1 person he always made sure he kept those 3 from being done.
Myself and the other 2 solo queue survivors kept trying to do 1 of the 3 to ge gates powered and it took us over 20 minutes of going back and forth of being chased and occasionally hit 1 x but never chased far to get the gen done. The doctor could've easily just chased 1 of us and gotten way more points by doing that and queuing up.
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@Jack11803 said:
@powerbats said:
@Someissues said:
Gender equality does need to be in place, Females are just superior atm with hiding and stealth, Claudette is broken and is the best survivor for hiding and stealth
As a Claudette main who also plays Meg she's fine, I've got no issues most of time finding and sacrificing her playing killer. While Meg and Nea are much smaller models and have better outfits for mixing and matching. They already lightened up both her brown outfit and all black one quite a bit.
The reason most people play her is because of SC being so strong with that extra 10%, the same for BK, that extra 10% at high ranks is super strong.
Lastly play doctor, nurse,billy, problem solved.
Doesn’t matter what clothes, the devs made their gender determine if autohaven can break line of sight or not. Not being able to hide in the entire center of those maps as a male character is ludicrous. Again, it can even be excused by being taller, they do not try to crouch down nearly as much as the other characters. I could crouch in a MOVEABLE position BETTER WITH A BACK BRACE ON I’ve actually tried it.
True but even as a female character autohaven center is stupid since Nurse sees all there, same for Billy and Cannibal, Doctor and even Freddy you can't hide there at all. Bill actually can hide pretty well at time in the center in a few places.
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@Boss said:
And a good Survivor can anticipate that they shouldn't be still.
No matter how well a Huntress can anticipate, the Hatchets go one direction only and can't travel through objects.
If she can arc-hit you, she's already close enough for the Survivor to know she's that close.And besides, it's just a [BAD WORD] Item: You get tons of 'em in Bloodwebs.
"Oh to the hell no" Acting like it's the end of your Survivor life.She's allowed the FD buff and the arguments i make are valid. :P
Still wrong, I can and have also been hit across entire maps with high arc shots, it's not that hard to do once you've practiced it. Also stop with the logical fallacies in your argument,s they're failing spectacularly right now.
The devs aren't stupid enough to ever make a ranged killer have exposed like abilities on their attacks. Just because you want to be able to nail someone with something that's only available for melee doesn't mean you're going to get it.
If you want make your choice procs then do it the same as everyone else, GET INTO MELEE RANGE. While I like playing Huntress even people I know that main her say the same thing no. The only ones that'd want this are the ones that want to be able to abuse another mechanic.
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@Someissues said:
Gender equality does need to be in place, Females are just superior atm with hiding and stealth, Claudette is broken and is the best survivor for hiding and stealth
As a Claudette main who also plays Meg she's fine, I've got no issues most of time finding and sacrificing her playing killer. While Meg and Nea are much smaller models and have better outfits for mixing and matching. They already lightened up both her brown outfit and all black one quite a bit.
The reason most people play her is because of SC being so strong with that extra 10%, the same for BK, that extra 10% at high ranks is super strong.
Lastly play doctor, nurse,billy, problem solved.
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@Might_Oakk said:
Yeah this forum really went to full blown aids pretty quickly. Was good for a month or so now it's just the same few no life edgy kids being knobs to each other and anyone else. Basically what happens in any unmoderated forum./shrug
Tbh it kinda fits with DbD in general
.Hey that's mr edgy to you and over 50 so
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I laugh because most of my matches they use it as soon as i grab them so then it's gone completely for rest of game.
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Simple, stop responding to their posts if you don't like what's being said. While i've had my disagreements with him at time once you get to know him better forum wise. You'll find out he's actually like a puppy that follows you around barking at you but is actually quite nice.
When he's not busy tearing up your favorite pair of shoes that is.
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@Boss said:
@powerbats said:
@Boss said:
Mmmm no, too powerful.
Franklin's Demise should though.Oh to the hell no, Franklins procs off melee attacks, ehre let me throw an axe at you from across the map for free dura loss and item drop. There's enough wide open maps where huntresses can already nuke anyone she sees.
It's very easy to not get hit by an across-the-map hatchet.
For example, here's one thing you mustn't do: Stay still.
And another one: Repair the generator on the side that faces the map wall/faces a not-open area.That doesn't help since a good huntress will just anticipate and she'll also arc her shots and hit you still. Giving a ranged champion who already can get an instant down with a addon makes her op. She doesn't need it and the arguments above are invalid.
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Realistically if you have an offering and actually get it then go with the clothing for that offering. But to the people whining about all dark outfits while not whining about said dark outfits on maps where it's a liability. I've found really dark outfits to be bad and it's far better to go with something that's middle range color wise.
Think camouflage and how it actually works by blurring and mixing different shades of colors. someone like Meg or Nea are 2 of the best actual ones to sue since their character models are so small. The outfits with different shade combo's that match well are harder to see than an all black outfit Claudette.
I say that last part as a Claudette main since I've got no issue usually with finding the dark outfitted Claudettes on dark maps.
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Now now, wait your damn turn, let Trapper get his buffs 1st then Hag and Freddy. After that nerf Nurse down to mere inhuman status and then fix Leatherface.
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@Boss said:
Mmmm no, too powerful.
Franklin's Demise should though.Oh to the hell no, Franklins procs off melee attacks, ehre let me throw an axe at you from across the map for free dura loss and item drop. There's enough wide open maps where huntresses can already nuke anyone she sees.
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Lvl 3 almost halfway to 2 didn't use it until halfway through 12. Ran it for 6 games, 5 of which forgot to sue it in time, 6th 3 ppl rage quit against a Freddy. So I got to sue it right before I died, got rid of it never looked back.
But the same argument about crutch against killers running insidious while camping.
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@Mc_Harty said:
1. BBQ needs a nerf.
2. Ruin is a crutch.And now we wait...
Now if you really want to flame everyone at once.
You're buffing Freddy and Hag to Nurse level along with all the other killers while giving nurse a unlimited hit box radius.
You're going to buff all killers so that all hex perks are permanent and can never be disabled.
DS and SC are auto self cast along with SB and the moment the killer either comes near you or hits you and are instant with no cooldown.
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@RemoveSWF said:
That's funny. I would love if I got survivors like that.Usually I just get "DUHHHHHH U IZ A CAMPR L2P" #########.
Yeah I get that on both sides too it's funny because I don't run in a straight line towards the hooked victim in full view of the killer who'll obviously come right for me. You'd think at high ranks that playing smart when going for an unhook would be understood.
But good grief some people are dense, hey the killer camped me and you just snuck around instead of running right into the Billy/Cannibal and getting downed. Then I'd have called you a noob and trash because you got downed for running in said straight line into camper.