Would survivors whine less about camping if...
the person stuck on the hook got points towards the evader emblem? Like the same amount you'd get from doing a generator or whatever in their terror radius but not being chased...
the person stuck on the hook got points towards the evader emblem? Like the same amount you'd get from doing a generator or whatever in their terror radius but not being chased...
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killer places the survivor on a hook, displayed for everyone to see
Meanwhile...
Survivor thoughts:
Ha, that dumbass just left me here for some reason. He'll never find me here!
farms evader points while struggling for his life with a hook in his lung
If nothing else, the idea of it would be hilarious.
Sometimes I really wonder....
no one cares if survivors whines about camping.
its a legit strategy with a legic counter.
I dont care if I get camped but I don’t think I should be rewarded for it,
tbagging and taunting is BM while camping is a strategy
Do you see a difference?
If you wanna compare tbagging and clicking to sth, then this would smacking a guy on the hook or mori canceling someone
except those two things are not even remotely the same.
being camped is a strategy, being teabagged is ######### and meant to taunt.
you dont camp to taunt people. theres no comparison at all.
CAMPING gets you kills. KILLS gets you victories.
TAUNTING does not get you a victory.
you teabag people because you are an #########. even the respectful streamers dont teabag.
BBQ reduced effectively camping, but instead of being grateful, survivors started to complain about it being OP. Do you really think it would be any different with your proposal?
teabagging in every single game is a dick move. ask anyone that isnt you or clearly a survivor main. you dont teabag people unless you're an #########.
its not in your objective to teabag, it doesnt even award you points.
hooking people does, and making sure none gets that guy also gets points.
im sure your mom is happy to hear that you teabag and taunt other players in order to win. such sportsmanship.
i dont make up any rules. im telling you its not very sportsmanship like to teabag people and to taunt people. name one game where teabagging is considered completely fine and not a dickmove?
you get no points for it, ergo, its not an objective.
you get points for hooking and sacrifices, thats what you get for camping. you get points.
how have i made up any rules here? the game is already very biased towards survivors making newer killers very powerless with no perks and nothing. surviving isnt that hard, the only thing thats hard is to get a guy unhooked versus a camper, and thats why you all whine. because its hard. as the one and only thing for survivors.
Getting frustrated by tbag is in your hands. When I first played killer, I chose wraith and had a terrible match because i did not even know that we could lunge. Anyways, at the gates people were tbagging me and I didn't even know its name. I answered them by ringing my bell and spinning around myself like i was dancing.
Tbagging, clicking flashlights, looking up and such other moves are nothing. They are not even a thing. Just node to them by moving your mouse if you want to. Killers are sometimes just crybabies. You need to control your emotions. It is not like last second switch or other bullshit that affects game.
regardless.
teabagging is a dickmove and always will be. all the respectful streamers avoid that too because they dont want to be #########.
but its okay. you dont have to explain yourself. sometimes people are #########. and i guess you are one too.
its like saying: why cant i just be allowed to make snark comments about my opponents gameplay after the game is over that only borderlines to reportable but isnt really reportable?
you can do that too i guess. you're still an ######### though.
You should also get more BP for being on a hook, as well as double pip if you get fully camped.
And escape points since dying is sort of an escape (even tho it's not)
Fair stuff.
i mean for the love of christ.
if you want to teabag and all your shinenigans then do it. if you wanna loop around stuff and constantly flash your flashlight be my guest.
but that coupled with the constant threats and ######### remarks towards the killer after the game is over, because he camped or just didnt get any kills (any reason really), is the reason this game has a reputation for being toxic as #########.
and no its not both sides evenly that are toxic. i do play survivor, mostly meg or claudette, and most killers that are irritated are rarely actually toxic. they mostly make remarks as to: why do you have to constantly loop, or get frustrated over mechanics that are heavily biased towards the survivor side, leaving only few killers actually viable, and even then, some are only viable with specific perks.
but for the most case, killers either say nothing, say something about the general balance of the game, or GG. unless someone teabagged him from my team, then sometimes they get angered over that. which makes sense.
but Survivors mostly always go full on ######### on the chat after the game. sometimes its a regular GG. thats fine, makes sense. but for the most case, its a remark about how bad the killer was if he got no kills, and if he camped, or did anything else like tunneling, they'll flame him for it.
i play maybe 70% killer, 30% survivor, and those survivor matches i do have, i rarely see killers go full on flame mode. but i always get flamed as a killer, almost every single game, in case i decide to camp.
camp = instant full on toxic mode from the survivors. despite the fact that none of them looked at the perks, and saw i have room for 1 perk slot on my low level killers, where as they are fully fledged purple perk with full slots, which would make it impossible for me to even get a single kill unless i DO camp.
Killers dont give this game a bad rep, survivors does and their inability to see that the game is leaning towards the survivors to the point where 2 survivors could probably win against 1 killer if they did well. and thats kind of not the idea, when you have a team of 4.
These are some ridiculous ideas dude.
It is %4 to kobe and if you can't do that you will go to the dying state anyway. It is not like op or something. If someone unhooks them it is the same thing anyway.
Unbreakable is not an OP perk once again. It can only be used once and If the killer picks you up straight away you wasted your one perk for nothing. It doesn't need to be changed.
For the third point, you are not told that survivors have unbreakable because it is supposed to be a 'surprise perk' for the killer.If you choose to slug people, it gives survivors the chance to counter it. Btw, it is really easy to counter unbreakable. DS is nothing like that. You can't counter it if there is not a nearby hook or even if you can, he/she will still be able to use it for the second or the third time.
anything that effects the player effects the games percived enjoyment, i believe that was the point being originally made.
Also camping ensures (sometimes) a kill and you claim that as strategic, but if someone is that offended by a pixel bobbing up and down that they spend the entire game chasing them getting no where than that is also a strategy, regardless of how low you perceive it to be
Wow talk about entitled survivors with that kind of entitled whiny ass rant. Wah teh survivors are trying to live by unhooking themselves, wah they're using a 1 time use perk. Most people that kobe get killed either by a no skill camper who waits just outside terror radius or uses insidious. That or or they get hard tunneled because gasp THEY WOULDN'T JUST DIE AND GIVE YOU A FREE KILL !!!!
I mean good grief it's like why don't they just all go under a hook and wait for you to hook theme very game and then commit suicide. Then don't struggle so you can get your free points and not gasp have to actually play the game, I mean if I was the entity I'd bslap you so hard and send you back to baby killer school.
You hate ds and unbreakable well get the big boy pants on because survivors hate bbq, they hate whispers which is completely busted atm, they hate ruin which certain killer camp. We also hate noed, we hate etc etc etc.
We hate not getting notifications that killers are running something until we find out the hard way. I mean killers are always saying always assume noed/bbq etc are present in each and every match. Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander as the saying goes.
What's absolutely ridiculous is the sense of entitlement from killers like you and survivors who feel the game should be handed to them. They don't want the other side to actually make things hard and work towards their objectives.
(INTENSE SARCASM BELOW)
Here's a solution, remove DS and unbreakable from the game then anytime a killer camps the hook in any shape form or fashion they get perma banned. How's that for feel, you get rid of 2 of the most whiny perks we get rid of jerks that like to camp 1st hook. Both sides get rid of their biggest complaints and have nothing left to complain about.
Translation: You didn't read because didn't want to let facts smack you in the face and get an opinion that gasp didn't agree with you. I don't ue unbreakable and most swf groups don't use it.
Most killers won't play without those, even at really high ranks although the really good killers don't rely on those.
**No the fact that I say whispers is op atm is because it is, on large maps killers are running right at survivors even without bbq or any other aura reading perk.. Oh and I didn't get triggered over your whiny post. But apparently you did by my response when you said you didn't read it which obviously you did.
You got upset because I pointed out the hypocrisy of your complaints and now you're trying the good old Straw Man failed logical fallacy again.You made a rant post and got called out for it and now are trying to make it look like I'm the triggered one. Tried and failed miserably,
I don't run unbreakable nor ds and still managed to get to rank 3 survivor before reset. This despite getting hard camped 1st hook by killers simply nodding heads non stop and hitting me on hook trying to trigger me into dying quicker. This despite getting griefed by duo's or other survivors who didn't want someone else to live when they screwed up.
As a killer I'v never ever camped anyone even though they probably deserved it, nor nodded my head at someone on the hook to taunt them and be an asshat. The fact is you got whiny and got triggered when you got called out for being whiny.
Now I'm sure you'll say you didn't read it again yet manage to someone how respond to certain segments of my post. That or you'll do the typical troll response and didn't read it type.**
Opinions are like rear ends everyone has them and we can agree on some things and disagree on others, but seriously lets keep the entitled attitudes out of post. This especially after calling out the other side for the same thing.
I'm gonna level witchu chief... You are absolutely right
No, it wouldn't make camping less annoying.
Did you actually think before you posted, no where did I ever say it was op and needed to be removed. You said they could remove whispers because you don't need it not me. Why not go back and reread what I said about it being op atm because it's broken. NOW TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T MISS IT I NEVER SAID REMOVE WHISPERS.
Here's exactly what I said.
**> Here's a solution, remove DS and unbreakable from the game **then anytime a killer camps the hook in any shape form or fashion they get perma banned. How's that for feel, you get rid of 2 of the most whiny perks we get rid of jerks that like to camp 1st hook. Both sides get rid of their biggest complaints and have nothing left to complain about.
Now if you'd actually paid attention instead of trying to twist what I said because you got mad at the fact I showed the hypocrisy of what you said. Then you'd have seen I never said that. So once again you tried and failed to not only insult me but twist my words.
From now on until you can prove otherwise you've shown you're no better than some of the trolls on here with your insults and word twistings.
More surv nonsense. Now you want points for getting caught and being slapped on the hook? You want points because the killer did his job?
As McEnroe would say:"You cant be serious!"
How about this? You get caught and slapped on the hook you die instantly. No more of this ######### where you get more lives than a cat.
Okay, this is like NOT buffing WGLF. We all know it will have much more enjoyment and fun. Is there a good reason not to add this? Forget “duur shouldn’t be rewarded” will this cause anything actually bad? Cuz it will cause less complaints. If nothing truly bad comes from it, it should be added as a QOL
After all, why would you care if they gained points? It’d just make everyone happier?
You obviously read because you responded to it and the fact you didn't like being shown you misquoted me horribly and never corrected it speaks volumes about you.
The bottom line the small but vocal minorities on both sides will whine no matter what as evidenced by the person who still won't admit he's wrong.
If the killer is camping, face camping, he just move 2m and back is camping too, etc; give survivors BP this maybe prevent a lot of DC; with less dc more BP for the killers too.
Calling a camping killer a "camper" isn't whining though.
Survivors would whine less about camping if they didn't have so many safety nets. One hook=One kill would immediately stop camping.
if survivors gets BPs for being hooked, i will officially stop playing the game.