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  • @gemjas said:

    DCing against Doc specifically? Most of the time people are just being petty. But there is a legit reason not to play against him. His power can cause discomfort. For instance, I have sensory processing issues. The madness effect on the screen can sometimes be overwhelming and the shock itself can sometimes cause me to actually flinch, which can get annoying, so I'll have to DC. It doesn't get so overwhelming all the time, but I still have to put my comfort first. This is just a game, after all.

    I feel for your condition never thought about that and hope you can play alright in all your games ...is that the only killer that does that to you?

  • @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2026633#Comment_2026633

    I don't bring items into the game, so it's usually not an option, but I'll try to remember to do that in the future if I've grabbed something out of a chest.

    Yeah, when I'm killer and someone DCs early on I try to play nice, usually. As someone who plays survivor exclusively solo, I know how much those matches suck, so as killer my heart's not in it if the game pretty much starts as a 3v1. No need to make the easily miserable experience of solo survivors worse.

    Yeah I only play survivor for the daily but it does suck when someone dcs and ita 3 vs 1 with 5 gens still left...most killers I offer them my item if it looks like a lost cause sometimes they let me finish gens and leave

  • @Orion said:

    Long story short, besides those who are experiencing game-breaking bugs, the various reasons can be summarized as entitlement.

    • They feel entitled to force others to play the game they way they want (see the endless rulebooks).
    • They feel entitled to ruin the game for everyone else if they don't get their way ("If you don't care about my fun, why should I care about yours?").
    • They feel entitled to pick and choose what they go up against (can't play this character, can't use that perk, can't use those offerings/items/add-ons, etc.).

    Basically, they feel entitled to force a private match, where they can dictate the rules, onto random players in public lobbies.

    Seems to be the case in a lot of multiplayer games🤣

  • @T2K said:

    I can only speak for myself and I rather do the one-hook-suicide than dc. I do it in games where I dont have fun or I dont enjoy playing. At the end of the day DbD is still a game and games should be fun for me. So if I face 3 times Freddy in a row with a lot of gen stalling in his build Im just go for the next game instead of play the fantastic match ahead of me till the end and waste my time with suffering and salt.

    You ever win those type of matches?

  • @katoptris said:

    .dying

    . Losing to the opposite side

    .hate the other way of winning

    .add ons/items

    .killers/certain survivors being used

    Yeah killer builds seems to be a big one

  • @TragicSolitude said:

    I don't DC, but there are times when I seriously consider it. Those times are when the match has been stupid, there was a disconnect or two near the start, and like no gens are done and I just want out. I give myself up to the killer both for their benefit and mine, and... they slug me and look for survivor #4. That is when I have to stop myself from just leaving the match.

    I know why the killer is slugging me, I get it, but I'm human and I can't help but feel slighted by the fact that I conceded and it wasn't enough for them, they need the last survivor, too. No, the killer doesn't have to play different when there are disconnects, but it still feels crappy from my POV. Hell, I'm obviously willing to die, they could at least leave me up to earn some points while they look for the last survivor.

    Like I said, I don't actually disconnect in these situations, I just badly want to. After those matches I often don't play for the rest of the day/week, as either role. That's a really specific scenario and probably not what you were looking for, but I wanted to take the opportunity complain. 😝

    Did you offer the killer your item? In those situations I try to let them get the hatch at least...sorry your teammate dc'ed apology...but yeah let it out that is the healthy thing to do

  • @BitingSea said:

    Anytime they pop a OP map offering and then be a flashlight crew that's when I DC, I've been working on my temper and anger issues but when that ######### happens I'd rather get the timeout

    Last minute flashlight blendette switches I assume yeah if that happens to me I just switch to another game on gamepass🤣 there you wanted to win so bad you can have it...if I left and came back and the game started then I stick it out otherwise nope

  • @Marc_go_solo said:

    I've not dc'd myself, but beyond entitlement I reckon that it's fear.

    I don't mean fear as in they're scared of flashlight-wielding survivors or a specific killer. It's the fear of not being good enough; to face the fact that they "failed". Best dc to avoid that.

    There's also genuinely connection issues or an emergency at home. Those are acceptable. Annoying, but that's real life for you. However, salt, anger, annoyance .. it all comes down to the fear that those people are shown they aren't as good as they hoped, so they would rather not face what happens - remain closed-minded.

    Yeah I always try to finish out the match even when a DC looks tempting when I am seriously outplayed

  • @baron said:

    Because people feel it is going to be an annoying slog to play the current round, they think they cant win against whatever they are facing, bad experiences have led to a perception of what the current round is going to entail, and/or even if they can win the round it would be an annoying time doing it.

    Pretty much a y bother mentality

  • @skylerbound said:

    with doc, I understand cause sensory wise it can be overwhelming for me.

    ive only dc’d recently when my solo teammates were farming hooks, injured and bringing the killer to the hook ... while healthy me was going in for a safe unhook. Did it 3x in a row and I bounced

    That sucks hopefully you get better games

  • @Munqaxus said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/235161/what-makes-people-dc

    I don't see how you only see 1 DC out of 10 games. I would say I see 1 DC in every 4 games.

    Rank reset and the 1st static blast usually does it🤣

  • @Mistikus said:

    i only want to dc on mend simulator

    edit: i dont do it but temptation is really big

    Forever legion build I am assuming

  • @Crowman said:

    I imagine it's largely pettiness.

    I've seen a lot of DCs on Death Hook as if somehow D/Cing when they are about to die is accomplishing anything.

    Might as well take the mori or hook death get your points

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    Yeah the shrek movies are awesome

  • Then survivors wonder why queue times are longer...feel bad for new killers

  • @Kirkylad said:

    That's my biggest issue playing killer. Either you get the toxic red rank teams and the match is over in mins and you get clicked and teabagged. Or you get the solos who struggle to get a gen done and the whole match feels like such a stomp that I feel bad. I just wish there was a balance so I could get matches that were a decent challenge and fun for everyone.

    Last minute changes from red rank swf seem more common had two of those today...how bad are wait times for survivors now in the evening?

  • @ClownIsUnderrated said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2011793#Comment_2011793

    Well I was watching his stream from the mid chapter couple weeks ago. Someone in chat was defending the Clown's antidote being really good and just telling Monto he didn't really know how to use it, and Monto replies back saying "the antidote is bad and you're stupid enough for thinking it's good." I honestly don't think he's sarcastic, he for some reason has such a negative personality about things.

    Didnt see that one there was one video that says he is playing to his character one of the Halloween ones where he was going to dress up as day of the dead legion when he mentioned it...figured it was an act like how James rolfe plays the angry video game nerd but is pretty chill when talking about other things

  • @ClownIsUnderrated said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2011762#Comment_2011762

    Used to enjoy Monto until he started developing such a rude personality, so I did what anyone would do and stopped watching him.

    I felt he was just being more sarcastic and playing it for laughs

  • @chadbeastofprey said:

    if you won two and lost two that sounds balanced to me, what exactly are you complaining about?

    Nothing the game is balanced you are right

  • 50 win streaks videos are very entertaining...if you want someone who plays well and is very charismatic I recommend monto

  • No...bad enough toxic swf lead to more killers leaving the game...you paid for the game play however you can they already have a 4 vs 1 advantage who cares about their opinions

  • @FrenziedRoach said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1992478#Comment_1992478

    I would argue I can teach the right mental mindset to handle defeat.

    You see, the difference between myself and your average Joe is I look inward first anytime I get beat

    Who cares if SWF is broken, who cares if XYZ is overpowered. It's on me to find a way to beat it. If I ever find myself getting frustrated to the point I ragequit - then it's time to put the game down and come back with a different mindset.

    Too many people continue to play on tilt or pissed off when the best thing they can do is turn it off and ask themselves if they want to keep at it.

    If you don't want to fight SWF highly coordinated teams that aren't completely braindead, then maybe this is not the right game for you. In a world where we are no hurting for choice in multiplayer experiences, it boggles me that people would repeatedly piss themselves off by playing something they are clearly not enjoying.

    Thank you for the input...I understand the logic I take breaks from the game for awhile...just this week i haven't played til later today since Monday night...come back to see if it was fixed play some matches against my rank or my rank and maybe a purple or 1 red and do well enough...the mindset where I stop caring is on those matches where ibam clearly outmatched and decide to do other things while I wait for the next game

  • @alaenyia said:

    I generally just look for hatch and stand on it. They will stand in the doorway a very long time just to teabag, but I am not coming, just patiently waiting for them to GTFO.

    Yeah the ones that tbag and click trying to get your attention at the end are the worst...leave and let me get to the next game

  • @Olokun said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1994591#Comment_1994591

    Otz is more killer sided so if you prefer side go for him , if you have questions , you can ask him ^^ . I like tru3ta1ent too here you can see 50/50 killer and survivor. Dont forgot if you want to play perfectly the game you need to learn the 2 sides of the game.

    Thanks his vids have been pretty informative...love that otz trutalent debate

  • @Olokun said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1989445#Comment_1989445

    No, i did not said that . Just play like you want , learn from your defeats and your wins . Personally i dont care about ranks , sometimes i play chill, and sometimes tryhard , and im rank 1 because of my playtime . You dont need to tryhard to rank up unless at higher ranks, which ones will be somehow removed or changed once when mmr will go live. I rec all my games so i can watch them again to see what mistake i ve made . So you can learn from it and i suggest you to watch some streamers to see which strats works .

    Yeah I have been watching monto otz dowsey and ohtofu any other recommendations?

  • @FrenziedRoach said:

    "https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990776#Comment_1990776

    Alright enlighten me then give me tips instead of saying leave the game balls in your court sensei.... I usually main doctor wraith and hag"

    No, I don't teach people who aren't interested in learning. you're here just to get validation and coddling.

    Come back to me as a man, and I'll teach you the ways of the Doctor.

    So your useful advice is leave the game or you say to man up I ask you for tips and you don't give any useful feedback...ball is in your court

  • @MudSpit83 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/231259/when-a-swf-bullies-you

    I play like a toxic killer just like them, I’ll hook them and place them in the basement (If its nearby) and then just camp them. Im not just going to give up and go stand in a corner like some baby so they could laugh at me....thats just sad. Why dont you try and beat them instead of instantly giving up? What killer do you usually play as?

    Usually play doctor wraith or hag

  • @Huge_Bush said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990729#Comment_1990729

    Not enough high rank killers to match against high rank survivors. I figure once killers repeatedly face those survivors over and over they either leave the game, switch to survivor or derank to get out of red ranks.

    Seems like a sad state for the game surprised there isn't a simple incentive like double points to play killer during the 6 -10pm timeframe to get more survivors to play killer

  • @NekoGamerX said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990775#Comment_1990775

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990817#Comment_1990817

    really I don't think you could teach anything to anyone like you said you still get your butt handed to you by swf and for the most part I do good on my own.

    was just saying no matter how much you learn from this game killer is still harder the survivor even will be and swf brakes the game.

    That unfortunately seems to be true

  • @fray1919 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990787#Comment_1990787

    Wait, I think you've lost the plot...do you want less bullying or do you want to be more competitive?

    Both in a fair environment less bullying is ideal overall but couldn't hurt to listen for more tips

  • @Snap_Tobiyume said:

    I don't get bullied. They genrush, and I'll four man slug them. Easy. But I main nurse. Different story with other killers. I'll typically just catch someone in endgame and camp them until death, getting grabs off unhooks bc baits don't work on me.

    Tried nurse cant seem to get the hang of her on console

  • @FrenziedRoach said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990732#Comment_1990732

    Yup, all the time. And I get beat, a lot. but I look at them as learning opportunities

    Alright enlighten me then give me tips instead of saying leave the game balls in your court sensei.... I usually main doctor wraith and hag

  • @FrenziedRoach said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990698#Comment_1990698

    Nope, I will keep saying it - get better. Learn to beat them. I say this to myself. Hell, I got my ass handed to me by a rank 1 SWF today. It happens. If you can't hack it, find another game

    Y is it always leave the game shouldn't you want the game to be better? In fairness I am doing a service by adding one more killer to the long survivor wait lobbies

  • Thanks been waiting for wraith to be buffed

  • Does he still get a speed burst after the uncloak?

  • @FrenziedRoach said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990610#Comment_1990610

    I'll repeat what I said....

    You'll never get better unless you play against people better than you. So either man up or find another game. ruining the game for 4 others because you're having a hissy fit is what weaklings do.

    Do you play killer against swf groups?

  • @Huge_Bush said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990709#Comment_1990709

    No Problem! This is what the devs provide the forums for - Feedback. If you have an issue or suggestion or even praise, this is the place to do it. As long as you're respectful, no one has a right to tell you not to post. And I agree, the devs need to be constantly reminded that many players are unhappy with the crappy matchmaking that they provide.

    Thank you for the kind words....Just curious someone mentioned to me matchmaking used to be match the highest survivor with the same killer rank correct? Why was that changed

  • @Huge_Bush said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990633#Comment_1990633

    Not everyone wants to get better. Some people want to play a casual match. Most people play games for fun, not to sweat their butt off against people who are much better than them. If you were to play basket ball and were matched against the NBAs top players over and over and over, you'd get tired and frustrated with it pretty quickly.

    He isn't ruining the game for anyone, the swf sweat squads are ruining his game since they play with outside communication which this game isn't designed around. If anyone is ruining anyones game, it is Behavior for allowing red rank 3k +hour swf players to be matched against casual, less skilled killers.

    Thank you for the response I love this game...nobody want to be bullied.

    I know this isn't the first of these types of posts but feel it needs to be said

  • @fray1919 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990618#Comment_1990618

    I'm sorry, I want to be clear that I'm not saying your ideals are wrong.

    To your specific point in this post, I agree that matchmaking is a mess. I've seen rank 15 killers matched with rank 1-8 survivors, and I've seen rank 10-ish players matched with a rank 1 killer. Assuming rank correlates to skill (which I've seen debated, but I don't know the inner workings), I don't think that's good. And I believe I'm on record as saying that the matchmaking is very unfair for players.

    Thank you that is one of the points of this post...fair matchmaking benefits everybody they make more money and a more positive player base let the red ranks play red ranks

  • @FrenziedRoach said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990610#Comment_1990610

    I'll repeat what I said....

    You'll never get better unless you play against people better than you. So either man up or find another game. ruining the game for 4 others because you're having a hissy fit is what weaklings do.

    And yet I will say I try and I don't get better because I get stomped by higher ranks than me I am learning but not enough to take out a sweaty team of 4 red ranks so wasting time so they are happy clicking and tbagging body blocking using all meta perks on top of verbal abuse in the end game...y lower myself to thier standard let them waste their time they don't deserve the satisfaction.

  • @fray1919 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1990589#Comment_1990589

    First, you make your opinion seem more valid and popular and can draw financial loss potential into it, which could give hope that BHVR will be pressured into making changes that you'd agree with.

    Second, I don't imagine most new players in groups of five get the game and play the same day at the same time and not at least try playing in a few matches together while learning the game. I would wager that situation has only happened to the five people you described.

    Why would making the game more positive and less toxic be a bad thing...would that not make more people play because of good matchmaking which means more money for them and a better player base away from bullies. For the second point yeah I cant speak for all new players obviously just what happened to my friends but can you honestly say that any new player has fair matchmaking when playing as killer especially from about 6pm to 10pm?

  • @FrenziedRoach said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/231259/when-a-swf-bullies-you

    You will never learn to beat them with that attitude. Either grow a pair and learn to beat them, or uninstall the game.

    I do fine with my own rank I don't want to play rank 1 super squads as a green rank killer

  • @fray1919 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1989436#Comment_1989436

    Assuming your story is true, you did a very poor job introducing them to the game.

    First what do I get from lying and second imagine how many new players go through this same scenario

  • @The_Nightmare69 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1986943#Comment_1986943

    No you misunderstand me, what I mean is that the ranks carry no value in the game. Me in purple or green ranks gets ranked against red ranks. very unfair. what's even more unfair I loose progress in my rank when I as a green or purple ranks loose to a rank 1 killer/survivor. So I feel like ranks are meaningless as long as they do not contribute to matchmaking.

    My apologies I did misread that...red rank swf bullying is more frequent which is my issue...go rank 11 try to get that 1 facecamping kill if you can

  • I want the game to be better not spread the toxic behavior around

  • @Olokun said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1986933#Comment_1986933

    Rank 1 Killer and Survivor with 2 K hours + . Why you asked question if i was rank 20 wouldnt be the same ? XD

    So using your logic I should depip to level 20 kill new survivors and enjoy it since there are more killers in the lobby and I get to spread the cycle of bullying...imagine less survivors who want to play because of my game knowledge benefits everyone...I mean rank doesn't matter right?

  • @fray1919 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1986924#Comment_1986924

    But if there were five of them and you, why wouldn't they do Kill Your Friends to learn the game? There's the perfect number and they're all playing at the same time. I'm just saying, this is a weird story.

    They wanted to jump right in to the game to see why I was hesitant to do a swf and yeah they learned real quick unfortunately

  • @The_Nightmare69 said:

    Ranks honestly mean nothing, I used to play at red ranks have even been rank 1 two years ago I went on a break from the game and I am still very rusty I am currently back at rank 8 and am trying to get back to red ranks but it is very hard, especially when I as a rank 8 killer get matched against all red ranks even rank 1 survivors because that's supposed to be fair.

    and I would much rather have a team of bullies than a team of gen rushers trying to end the trial in two minutes because queues aren't long enough I guess..

    Love this logic of ranks mean nothing so level 20 survivors matched up with say a green or purple rank killer is fair to the survivors? You have various hours of playtime and can get back up those ranks but what about people who just want to play casually and not deal with tourney level swfs?

  • @ALostPuppy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1985371#Comment_1985371

    If you go by the DbD community's definition of bullying which...isn't bullying in the ######### slightest...it's still possible. If I see survivors doing this I just think they're goofing around because, like me, they're bored of playing the game and wanna actually have fun. Idk how people can say survivors that bring head on, flashlights, Sabo God builds etc are "bullying" the killer. 99 times out of 100 they're all gonna end up losing because they're not taking it seriously.

    You sir have been blessed hope those are the swf groups you keep getting...actually I hope those are the type of groups all killer mains get

  • @Olokun said:

    Ithe the game design , sometimes you win and sometimes you loose , good swf where you make 0K and 1K is less than 5% of the total games played. stop crying and Go next , like i do . dont you think ppl have rights to play togethers ?

    Out of curiosity what rank killer are you?

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