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@sulaiman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165239#Comment_2165239
So, if you have the ability, you would just kick the survivor that tries to rescue you from a camping killer, highly likly dooming him for a down. So, if afterwards you realize he had bt and you did him wrong, what compensation should he get?
Also, if the killer camps you and there is no way to unhook you savely, are you staying in the game as long as you can if noone comes for you?
This is a separate topic that I've brought up a lot before as well. BT should be a HUD element so that we know if someone has it. Also, if a survivor is getting camped, they should get X amount of distraction points for every gen completed since they are technically distracting the killer as there is currently no incentive to stay in the game if you're being camped. However, camping killers isn't the topic here.
@[Deleted User] said:
You want some entity to prevent unsafe unhooks.
The other alternative is you dying on hook. Obviously you dont want to talk about that or consider that. Clearly I cant read.
Yes. I do not want to be farmed. Why is that a hard concept? Why are people actually advocating for farming?
Enlighten me on how players are supposed to do that if they're farmed off the hook.
@ProfGameAndTalk said:
Gotta admit, as a solo queuer I'll make bad rescues just for dailies and such. Getting kicked away would stop me from doing that.
I ask then that you stop contributing to the problem. You can easily get hook saves without farming.
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Idk... I feel like it might be harder to get some curved lunge hits as killer.
Let alone killers like Huntress and Deathslinger.
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@[Deleted User] said:
If they're camping hook and you dont want your team to save you then you realize your dead right? And you get 0 bp cause you did nothing that game.
Guess you didn't read the post then... at all.
@Palkia123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165709#Comment_2165709
I'm sorry, but that's a terrible idea, there would be so much perk synergy going around it'd just be the perfect team every game
It works pretty well for the mobile version without causing issues. Plus it would be a good buff to solo survivors without at all buffing SWF.
@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/247638/what-are-we-supposed-to-do-against-farming-now
How about, stop trying to leave the game the moment it stops going your way? You should be the one who is banned for leaving games or suicide on hook.
You do realize that you're promoting farming someone off the hook, right? Something that is bannable under the griefing section.
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@LilCrapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165751#Comment_2165751
more excuses i see. so very productive on improving yourself
Let's start your contribution here.
Please tell me, oh enlightened one, how I can "improve myself" when someone farms me off the hook against my will. I'll wait.
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@malloymk said:
Yeah, but you do know who has BT after you've been unhooked. This is why you should play it out instead of killing yourself as some sort of angsty protest.
Like I said above, the devs should make it so that survivors can see each other's loadouts before the match starts like on mobile. And/or, give us a HUD icon if someone is saving us with BT.
If everyone who did this had BT, I wouldn't have made the post.
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@DemonDaddy said:
That's just a bad save not farming, Survivors lose points if your immediately downed again.
They still get 1k. The only miss out on the extra 500 for a safe unhook. And, more often than not, it's not a bad save from ranks 10-1.
@LilCrapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165571#Comment_2165571
more excuses, mr excuse maker. pretty pathetic.......
More lack of contribution I see. Very insightful.
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@malloymk said:
A lot of what you are probably considering farming is just hook trading. And depending on where you are at in the hook timer and how much the killer is proxy camping, the hook trade is almost always better than letting you go into phase 2.
Straight up farming and bailing almost never happens in my games.
I wish I was in your games then.
People have lives and schedules my guy. Not everyone can play DBD with each other at the same time.
@deckyr said:
honestly never understood why, at any other point in the game, i can hold shift and block people from healing me, but when i'm on the hook it just stops being a feature
give it a visual cue if you must - the survivor brings their legs up and curls up on the hook - just allow me to not consent to the unhook, please. there are many cases outside of getting hook farmed where i don't want to be unhooked right away, like if my gen's almost done or if there's a hex totem right next to me or i'm next to an exit gate that's not open yet. let me drop the hint that they should do the other thing first.
Yes! Thank you! The "don't heal me" button has been a God send against people trying to pick me up in front of the killer! I wish for something similar to work on hooks!
@NVerde said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165238#Comment_2165238
- Why should you have to use a perk just to stop teammates doing something stupid?
- That's a one time use - what if you've already used it, it's just tough?
- How do you propose escaping when someone unhooks you right in front of the killer and they don't have BT?
I don't understand the mentality of arguing against the proposal, which would prevent people doing something that harms the team and just annoys people.
For real. So many people here are actually advocating for farming people off hooks. ######### has this place come to?
Thank you for being sensible.
@Palkia123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165239#Comment_2165239
Sorry, that I get you off the hook with BT
That's another problem on it's own. We don't know who does and doesn't have BT. That's also why I think survivors should see each others loadouts in the pregame lobby like on mobile. As well as having a HUD indicator if someone approaching you has BT.
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@swager21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165578#Comment_2165578
i mostly play survivor so i average about 20k.
That's fair then.
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@swager21 said:
wow thank you. saved me about 3 games worth of grinding
3 games?
You mean 1 BBQ killer game?
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/247638/what-are-we-supposed-to-do-against-farming-now
I mean if you truly dont want to deal with this then you should probably make some friends and swf instead of solo queue'ing.
Not everyone I know always wants to play DBD at the same time I do. Plus, I'm pretty sure most people here seem to think that SWF is "toxic" and should be removed. So make up your mind. Are you okay with SWF or not?
@Micheal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/247638/what-are-we-supposed-to-do-against-farming-now
What would be better are emots on hooks so you can tell them go or get away. Like a thumbs up or thumbs Down.
I thought about it, but it won't stop people. They'll still have the ability to farm.
@malloymk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165272#Comment_2165272
Judging by his posts, it's probably pretty difficult for him to make friends.
Think what you'd like buckeroo. Thanks for your wonderous contribution to the discussion.
@Kebek said:
@Zixology I'm not saying it's good but sometimes it's the correct play (in scenarios vs camping killer, hooked survivor beiing almost dead so you farm them hoping they have DS so they get a shot to use it). Mostly, it's done out of ignorance as far too many survivors are extremely boosted and wouldn't understand what safe unhook is even if it hit them in the face.
I'm saying that hook suiciding is bad and not healthy for the game as far more often it's abused as "Legit DC" when some entiteled survivor doesn't like somethinh like getting downed early.
Overall I don't see what's the big deal anyway, you die either way farmed or self killed so the only difference is that the farmer get tiny bit of BP, loses emblem points and dies too. Farmes usualy farm because they're bad at DBD not because they want to griefe you.
The big deal is people farming others and getting away with it. If someone isn't punished for doing something wrong, then they will continue to do it. Considering this new system, I'm half tempted to just DC if someone runs up to me while the killer is next to me.
@dadadadadada said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165228#Comment_2165228
Im to lazy to do the math but if you run 4 meter per sec and the killer run at 4,6 meter per sec after 5 sec you will 20 meter on the killer this is too far away for a chase to start so the killer need to go near you again and this take a lot of time. You have the number do the math and whitout any loop or window vault and a flat field you will know how much time it take for you and the killer to come in contact
I'll do the math for you since you said "Im to lazy": Killers (including Nurse while blinking) are faster than survivors. You cannot just out-speed a killer out of a chase indefinitely.
@LilCrapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165268#Comment_2165268
make more than 1 friend
stop getting caught = very good
getting caught = bad
TL;DR stop making excuses, because thats all your doing. making excuses
I have about 20 people in a personal Discord who play DBD... Being an adult means people have responsibilities. We don't all go to school and get home at the same time.
Also, anyone who says "just don't get caught" loses all credibility. The fact that you say that tells me you either only play Killer, or just not at all.
@IWasLeft2Die said:
I think hook interactions would need a few changes to make this work. Otherwise it would be a mess with trying to prioritize kicking away, unhooking, cancelling unhook, and killer grabbing all at the same instance.
1. Remove cancel unhook ability- this is already super glitch and inconsistent. Survivor has to commit to unhooking
2. Remove killer unhook- also a big part of the glitches. Replace with unhook survivor being exposed during the animation only.
3. Lengthen unhook process- this would allow both the person on hook and the killer to respond properly. It's a bit too fast to respond while on hook tbh. Make it maybe 2 or 3 seconds? I believe it's 1 now
Honestly, never thought of that. It sounds like a really good idea! That would be perfect!
Grabs in general are very buggy, so replacing it with exposed would work out nicely. And increasing the animation time would make people more likely to get caught in the act of farming and even prevent the possible trolling that could come from a kicking mechanic.
Thank you for actually reading the post and having enough brain power to process it maturely.
Much appreciated! :)
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@malloymk said:
Just play the game out. Why be an infant?
Found the guy who farms people off hooks.
@LilCrapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/247638/what-are-we-supposed-to-do-against-farming-now
here is what is to be done
group up with friends. stop being bad. Avoid forums because no sympathy here
People have different schedules my guy. Plus, how does getting farmed off the hook against my will mean I'm bad. I'd love to hear your explanation for that one.
@Kebek said:
You could do nothing vs farming before, hook suiciding wasn't instant even before, someone just hooked had enough time to be unhooked without their input as the unhooker can unhook before the struggle phased properly began. It's the same now but even more slow which is good for the game, hook suiciding shouldn't be encouraged.
It's the killer's choice to punish the farmer, if he likes survivors who farm their teammates he might just let him go as he helped him kill you all. Luckily most killers are pretty nice players so they usually either punish the farmer or kill everyone equally.
People farming others off the hook in the killer's face isn't good for the game. There's no way to convince me that you're right. It's flat out griefing and is even reportable. Problem there is that reporting people doesn't do anything.
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Never thought I'd be agreeing with a Lord_Tony post...
But yeah, let people have it on if they want. And let others have it off if they want. It's not a hard concept.
If someone is offended, they can have their chat censored.
Since I'm not offended, I would like to have my chat uncensored.
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@Laluzi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165236#Comment_2165236
You're not wrong that this would be used for trolling, but at the same time, I have no reason to be happy when Meg rushes straight at me with Bubba right on her ass, I have 40 seconds left before I hit struggle, and there was a David who was crouching in an LT wall waiting for Bubba to go a safe distance away before Meg ran through with her pants off and brought him back.
THANK YOU!
FINALLY! Someone actually read the post!
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@DesertStorm401 said:
good to see the game is still camping/tunneling gallore since last i played, atleast we cant insta suicide hook, right?
They won't let us live... They won't let us die...
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@Mattie_MayhemOG said:
Run DS, its on you if you cant escape.
Escaping isn't the issue... ffs I swear you guys don't even read the post.
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@Palkia123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165216#Comment_2165216
But then people can just do it on purpose when the killer isn't near you then get the rescuer killed by the time the killer gets back... just be happy I came back for you at all
Umm no. I'm not going to be happy that you're farming me for points in front of the killer.
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There are codes by your name when you pull up the in-game friend list.
However, you can also just search for their regular name and have it pop up that way.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165216#Comment_2165216
Ok. Your comment read to me. We need a way to get killers away from the hook. Kicking a survivor away and not letting them get you would be hilarious
It's not always killers camping. It's often survivors that are already being chased, bringing the killer back to the hook and unhooking me because they have the IQ of a McChicken.
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@dadadadadada said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165189#Comment_2165189
Explain to me how is ds/unbreakable dont help you when you get farm the killer cant pick you up and if he do you give him a 5 src stun and run away dont stop at the first loop you see. You run at 4 meter per sec he run at 4,6 meter per sec he is stun for 5 sec he wont be on you for a while this give your team some time to finish gen split aggro etc... Whitout those perk you would have been hook right away and the killer could have all the momentum but you deny it with your DS
Explain to me how the killer can't just go right back to you after DS the same way they can if they have to break a pallet or vault a window.
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I mean... It doesn't help that the game censors her name if you type it in the chat.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165210#Comment_2165210
So you want a way to kick survivors away from the hook ?
If the killer is right in front of me? Yes.
If the killer is nowhere near me? No.
VERY simple concept. I don't like being farmed. No one does.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165192#Comment_2165192
I mean. What else am I supposed to get out of "we need a way to kick people away from the hook" ? How is a survivor supposed to rescue you...If you need a way to kick them away from the hook..?
How is it a hard concept to believe that if the killer is RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME... You shouldn't be unhooking me. That's textbook definition "farming".
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@Smashen said:
I went into soloq for 5 seconds, aborted it, and then I came back to my room and the game was already nearly done.. sad face
If you were that David that was AFK on The Game against a Blight yesterday, you kinda ruined my match and I ended up offing myself.
But if you were bugged into the match against your will, I forgive you.
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Easily Hillbilly.
Truly brings the "cat & mouse" gameplay out in full force and I love it.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/247638/what-are-we-supposed-to-do-against-farming-now
Oh cool. Another "punish defending the hook" thread
######### does this have to do with "defending the hook"?
I want to punish people who run up and unhook me in the killer's face. What the hell are you on about?
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@Yamaoka said:
Just bring DS/Unbreakable.
Those don't help dude. They prolong it, but not stop it.
Besides, the farmer still got away with farming me with no punishment at all.
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It's good. But should be buffed.
I think it should have a chain-like effect.
Make it so that you hit one survivor with it. Then, any survivor that comes within like 8 meters of the blinded survivor will become blind themselves and it spreads.
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@Yords said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163922#Comment_2163922
How exactly is giving people a new struggle system promoting farming hooks?
Because it can't be punished anymore.
Prior, I'd just let myself die right as they're about to farm me in front of the killer, getting them killed for trying to do that.
Now, they can just come up and grab me off in the killer's face with zero consequences.
I'd be fine with this change if they'd just let us kick people away from the hook.
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@Predated said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163883#Comment_2163883
Again, have you tested it out? Because so far, the order of operations have seemed to be:
-Killer activates an aura reading perk that is supposed to reveal your aura->activates OoO
-SS blocks the killer from seeing your aura.
I havent tested it out myself, but I am fairly certain this is the intended order of operations. I'll test it with perks like Distortion if no one else does.
Yes. I didn't have Adept Laurie on PC yet, so I figured now that the rework is here, it's as good a time as any. It was awful.
When I was the last survivor alive, Object would just not do anything. The 30s would count down and I'd never see the killer and they'd never see me.
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All it's done for me is get me farmed more often. I can't let myself die anymore to avoid being farmed in the killer's face. This change is promoting this.
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@Predated said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/247427/i-think-we-forgot-about-something
Does it tho? I'm fairly certain it still shows you the killer aura but the killer cant see your aura. I havent tested it yet tho.
SS doesn't show you any auras. It just prevents the killer from seeing yours.
But the new Object only shows you the killer when the killer can see you.
So when SS prevents the killer from seeing you, it also prevents you from seeing them.
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I just can't see totems to save my damn life...
Small Game doesn't help cause they're the same color as the corn.
Detective's Hunch doesn't help because red auras are invisible on that map.
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@deckyr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163523#Comment_2163523
how do you know what OP was talking about?
Because I agreed with him
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@BasementDweller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163523#Comment_2163523
Who actually does this though?
I can sort of understand if you recently purchased a character, prestige them, or those 3 perks are the only good ones you have for that character. But I just don't see the point after that when you unlock more perks to pick for your loadout.
People who want to at least TRY and have fun with this game
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Too bad it costs as much as 3 characters...
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163169#Comment_2163169
it's suspensful for the survivor and boring for the killer
Camping is boring but that's glorified.
@Trickstaaaaa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163049#Comment_2163049
Because this majority of killer only users hate stealthy players.
The majority of survivor only users hate camping killers. But it's even gone so far as to be promoted by the Devs.
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@KlapzCheeks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163247#Comment_2163247
I dont have an issue shelling out the money if the content is good. Maybe it enables them to get better ones in the future?
I'm not against good content. But for a skin to be 3x as much as a full character is insane
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I agree. Just don't make them cost 3 times as much as a character ffs...
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@MissKitty95 said:
Why can we have stealth killers but surviours are not alowed to play stealth ?
Nothing but facts
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@Krunga said:
I believe Sole Survivor is not a completely terrible perk. It does what it says it does, but the way you gain tokens IS terrible. I think it should be tied to completed gens instead of your team dying, so running SS and OOO while your team is repairing gens quick combos well.
Uhh no...
Running SS and OOO just cancels each other out as of today's patch.
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@JimboMason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163049#Comment_2163049
Its a boring playstyle most of the time.
I say it's suspenseful. Not boring.
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@TicTac said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162907#Comment_2162907
No the point was that two survivor perks counter each other and that is bad bc you need to use both for laurie adept. But bc survivor adept is easy its not really an issue and that means its not that bad when both perks shouldnt be played together.
The point was that the adept was the reason this was found out and that it's a problem. So... again... congrats on missing the entire point of the post.
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@whycantIwin said:
title, i'Ve read the patch notes yes, but previous patch they said they were fixed, so are they really?
Pallets are reverted back to before. You'll get stuns again but still get hit through them again.
Unfortunately vaulting at all speeds is now broken. You grunt upon vaulting, alerting the killer if they hear you, regardless of speed.
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Shadow buffs to Spirit and killing off stealth? I knew this update was too good to be true.
Stealth is good. Why do so many killer mains and devs want it gone??
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It's come to the point where if I see a bunch of trees, I stay away from them cause I know it's gonna have no windows or pallets. It's really bad.
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It's someone's ass
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Gen Rushing is when survivors are repairing gens instead of standing still under hooks.
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@deckyr said:
i don't need perks to get survivor adepts. i just need to throw my teammates under the bus, or i need a key.
Congratulations on missing the entire point of the post.
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Oh no? You got a 4k... Why are you still complaining?
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Would be nice if killers couldn't close the hatch if I found it first and was already standing on top of it.