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The survivors I don't like are the ones whose self preservation crosses into sabotaging others survivors. A perfect example is this situation: I use spine chill. If I am working on a generator with another survivor and spine chill lights up for more than a second I will go hide and wait for the killer to pass by or whatever. It's quite common when the other survivor realizes the killer is near for them to start pointing my direction. Any action where one survivor attempts to sacrifice another survivor so they can save themselves is scummy and I have zero respect for any survivor that does it.

Don't get me wrong. As a solo survivor I came to the realization long ago this is not a team game when you play solo. I adjusted to that and I am ok with survivors merely engaging in self preservation that doesn't attempt to sabotage other survivors. That doesn't bother me. An example would be if I'm on a hook, one other survivor left, the killer is not getting very far away from me, and they are near the hatch. I don't blame them at all for not taking the risk to get me off the hook when they have a guaranteed escape. In that situation if I know the other survivor is near the hatch I won't even bother with the struggle phase on the hook. There's no need both of us being killed when one has a guaranteed escape.

in What's your least favorite type of survivor? Comment by WheresTheGate October 5, 2020

@noctis129 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/196443/hilarious-post-game-messages
According to ur story, the other survivor was in a chase, got down, was hooked, and than, camped, and u couldn't finish off the gen u guys been somewhat working on?

Hmmmm....... You might want to reread the original post. You jumped to a conclusion that isn't supported by the information. Do you see anywhere in that post where I said I did or did not finish the generator during that time? I specifically made the point this person was messaging me the moment they got hooked. They were angry I didn't get the generator done BEFORE they got caught. For the record I was working on the generator during all that time. I was still working on the generator while they was being camped and messaging me. I finished the generator while they were being camped. However, the state of the generator was irrelevant to the fact this person was angry I didn't finish the generator before they got caught when they had the same amount of time and opportunity to do it as I did.

in Hilarious Post Game Messages Comment by WheresTheGate October 5, 2020

Most survivors suck (solo or not) because the majority of survivors play with zero strategy.

in Why people suck at solo Survivor Comment by WheresTheGate October 4, 2020

@Aquarius said:
Well, Bubba as the killer is a mostly sure DC reason for many survivors, even if he is played fairly. It sucks both if you're the killer yourself (you tend to play against less and less players in the match without killing them yourself) and if you're a team mate (it's not fun to get left behind like this). Just a few matches ago, this happened:
First team mate with 'no mither' (why would you even use such a bad perk?) was downed with one hit by Bubba - instant DC.
I got hooked, waiting to be rescued. I could only see 1 team mate's aura though, meaning that the other one was hiding in a locker.
Second team mate was chainsawed, hooked - instant DC. The other was still not visible = still hiding in the locker far away and only getting once out, probably to avoid afk crows (Bubba was in my vicinity, not his).
I died on the hook.
Third team mate got out of the locker, ran around looking for the hatch, I suppose, was found and chainsawed - instant DC.
I had many other Bubba matches where survivors DC'd the moment they saw Bubba (when I was playing him myself) or right after getting hit/downed/hooked, even if he didn't tunnel or camp. This is quite frustrating.

I can see that happening without a doubt. If I played Bubba (I don't even play killer) I'm sure I would see more stuff like that. I can only look at from my perspective as a survivor main. I don't actually go up against a lot of Bubbas for that to have factored into what I see very much.

in DC's - maybe not always the reason we think Comment by WheresTheGate October 3, 2020

I get messages like that from people sometimes. I generally respond with something like:

Are you trying to say you don't agree with the way I play this game? I'm glad I could help you bolster your fragile ego by telling off someone you played with in an online game. However, please understand if we should ever be in a match together again I will still probably play exactly the same as I did today because your opinion is completely irrelevant to me. Have a great day.

in I'm being sick of told what I can/can't use Comment by WheresTheGate October 3, 2020

Slugging all 4 survivors at once isn't necessarily a strategy that takes a lot of skill, but it is a highly effective strategy. I would even go so far as to say it's a smart strategy because the majority of survivors throw their own strategy out the window when a teammate gets slugged. As a survivor main here's how most of the matches I see go where all 4 survivors are slugged at the same time:

Killer slugs 1st survivor and hides nearby using the slugged person as bait.
Another survivor runs up to heal the slugged survivor. Killer comes out of hiding and slugs the second survivor. At this point the other survivors had no way to know the killer was playing a bait game with the slugged person. There's not a slugging equivalent to kindred to let survivors know the killer is within a certain range of a slugged survivor. However, it's obvious this is what's happening when you see a second survivor get slugged the moment they get near the first one.
Regardless of how obvious it is any attempt to heal one of the 2 slugged survivors will just result in that person getting slugged themselves there is still a better than 50% chance another survivor will run up and do it anyway.

It's not even uncommon for the 4th survivor to have seen all 3 others get slugged and still run up and try to heal one of them knowing they too will get slugged.

In other words when a killer slugs (or camps) they know there's a very good chance they are going to get another 1,2 or even 3 kills out of it because there are so many survivors that are incapable of not coming in for the heal or hook anyway. If you are one of those survivors your altruism and self-sacrifice are duly noted. That doesn't change the fact it was pointless altruism. It was a futile self-sacrifice with zero positive effects for you or the team. It doesn't change the fact that this type of useless altruism rewards killers that play this way.

So should something be done about it? Yes, but it isn't to punish slugging. Why punish a killer for implementing a strategy where survivors willfully and happily just hand them easy kills? What should be done is survivors should learn some important facts:

There is no requirement a slugged survivor has to be healed. Pointless altruism doesn't help anyone other than the killer.
When you factor in how long it takes a survivor to bleed out the rest of the survivors could knock out most, if not all, of the generators if the killer isn't willing to leave the slugged person. Guess what? If killers that employ this strategy started getting just 1 or 2 kills every match because survivors stopped rewarding the strategy you would see less of it.
If you are slugged and the killer is staying close then heal. If the killer does get distracted for a moment or two you can be back on your feet quickly.
If you run across a survivor that has been on the ground for an extended amount of time and hasn't healed at all just leave them. There is no point risking yourself to heal someone that couldn't be bothered to play intelligently.

So I agree that something needs to be done about that type of slugging, but what needs to be done is survivors need to play smarter. They need to quit making it a winning strategy.

in Something's got to be done about slugging Comment by WheresTheGate October 3, 2020

I'm glad it's not just me. There have been multiple matches recently where I either see someone else or myself hit almost immediately after a match starts. Location spawning at the beginning of matches seems to really be off.

in 5 seconds into the game, the killer is already on me Comment by WheresTheGate October 2, 2020

@MrLimonka said:
Tbh, I don't see people DC'ing that often anymore.
If anything, I'd add that people DC usually because there is a mori in the game, or when the killer brings overpowered addons.

I'm seeing lots of DCing since the penalties were removed again. Wish I wasn't.

There was definitely some of that. It just wasn't the most common thing I saw. My experience is only my experience though. I just found it interesting to look at the things that the events leading up to a DC.

in DC's - maybe not always the reason we think Comment by WheresTheGate September 28, 2020

Doc - absolutely hate his ability to make survivors scream and reveal their locations. If I'm being chased by a killer my strength is not in long looping. I have become rather adept at losing a killer though. I really enjoy losing a killer and watching them walk away wondering where I went. Doc just hits a button and doesn't wonder anymore.

Ghostface - similar thing here. I hate either losing or hiding from a ghostface and his reveal mechanic means I can't keep looking at him. The mere act of looking his direction too long gives away your location. Having to look away for even a brief moment can be the difference between seeing which direction is safe to make your get away and which direction is going to put you right back in his line of sight.

in Which killer do you hate playing against, but isn't op? Comment by WheresTheGate September 28, 2020

@ToxicMyers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1649634#Comment_1649634
Before asking for changes at least play both sides, literally his shock is his only power unless you call static blast alone a power lol. And you are talking about shock therapy when he makes a line of shock which if it connects stops you from doing any actions for a few seconds. I know this because I had to play him to level 35 to get monitor and abuse

I didn't ask for anything to be changed. I simply stated what I would change. The original post asked what would you change. I answered. I even made it clear I would change them simply because they are my 2 biggest frustrations. I didn't claim my personal frustration even meant they should be changed. I made sure to point out I wasn't claiming they were OP or unfair.

I don't play both sides. I tried killer in the past and it is not something I enjoy. The fact I don't play killer is the exact reason I didn't actually ask for those things to be change. Had the original post asked what SHOULD be changed I simply wouldn't have responded as my opinion would lack all subjectivity since I don't play killer. That isn't what this post asked though.