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Killer = that woman with the facial treatment.
Survivor = ninja assassin -
Do what you want. But don't expect survivors to give you a free sacrifice if you can't kill anyone during the match.
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Just stop.powerbats said:@Tsulan said:
When you are wrong, ran out of arguments but still keep going.
When you know the person was speaking from experience and thus wasn't wrong but continue to insult them because you don't like their answer. Based upon my experience I said what had happened to me, that's no different than people talking about things that've happened to them.
By your logic then everytime someone says something on here based upon their experience they're stating it's a game mechanic. Now see how your logic can be used against you in a very valid format? I admitted I was wrong but said i was talking about it happening to me.
Thus my statement was true and in no way did I ever state it was a game mechanic. That would be you and the other person who seems intent on using it to try and insult me.
Game mechanics are constructs of rules or methods designed for interaction with the game state, thus providing gameplay. All games use mechanics; however, theories and styles differ as to their ultimate importance to the game.
Gameplay bug in game mechanics is when something happens with irregularity or regularity thus disrupting the normal gameplay mechanics. Thus creating something that may appear to be a normal gameplay mechanic or something not abnormal.
There is no argument here. You either encountered a bug or mix things up.
Not saying that you lie, but the killer doesn't keep his add-ons.
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I proposed a solution for the hatch at the very beginning.brokedownpalace said:
1. Yes, for reasons I've stated. Not sure why you say magical, everything about this game is magical. In case you didn't know, using a chainsaw does not propel you forward at ridiculous speeds.Tsulan said:
So split second difference between 2 survivors leaving is nonsense but a magical exit opening is ok.brokedownpalace said:
No, this has been suggested before it's not fair. It's not even comparable. So if the last two survivors were crossing through the exit at roughly the same time, the one a second late would just be auto sacrificed? How does that make sense? There would be zero reason for survivors to stick around and try to help a survivor that is hooked or being chased because if they do they risk being last out.. and if they're planning on escaping it would be 100% pointless to rescue someone on the hook cause one of them would be guaranteed to be auto sacrificed.Tsulan said:
I would be ok with the hatch if the killer had a similar mechanic.brokedownpalace said:The only people upset by the hatch are tryhards. It triggers them to no end that they couldn't 4k and deprive every survivor of escape points. They'd rather slug the third survivor and then sit there or run around the map for 4 minutes desperately searching for the last survivor than just move on with their lives. It's all ego.
If he plays bad, everyone is about to escape but the entity prevents the last survivor from leaving and gives the killer 7000 points for hooking that guy.
Sounds fair, doesn't it?
I don't think you fully understand why the hatch exists. If it didn't then the last 1 or 2 survivors would have no hope of escaping in games where the first 2 or 3 were killed before 3 or 4 generators were completed. Remove the hatch or make it too difficult to get for the survivors and all you're going to get is a lot more disconnects and the killers will end up 1. Missing out on a bunch of BP, 2. Have a ton of completely unsatisfying "wins," 3. Have a much harder time acquiring trophies with killers that involve killing or sacrificing all 4 survivors. The hope of the hatch is what keeps survivors playing when they're getting destroyed by the killer due to that killer being awesome or their teammates being inept.
Left Behind is a joke of a perk and in 95% of matches would end up being entirely useless. That's like telling a killer to always equip Franklin's or Lightborn even when the survivors don't have any flashlights or other items because they might get one in a chest, even though there's like a 90% chance they're just gonna get some crappy brown item.
If there was no hatch, more people would equip left behind. It would be a endgame strategy like adrenaline.
Of course if you hand out free escapes, no one ever tries to use that perk.
And being the last survivor with gens to do actually feels like a horror game. Not like NASCAR. But that's a bad thing, right?
2. End game builds are pointless for survivors because there's no guarantee you'll even make it to the end game. Adrenaline is incredibly useful in several ways. It can pay off big time so it's worth the times you don't get to use it. With Left Behind, generators still take a decent chunk of time and if you're the last survivor then all the killer is doing is patrolling gens. If you have more than one gen left then the likelihood of you being able to avoid the killer and do them is close to zero. And even if you do, random generation could put the exit gates very close together or within view of one vantage point.
I'm just gonna stop there because it's frustrating debating with you when you're saying nonsensical things. Especially when the points you're making are not even actually countering the things I've said.
Right now the hatch is poorly implemented and a free win. Often undeserved. I had tons of matches where the last survivor escaped through the hatch and had 9-10.000 bloodpoints at the end screen. He didn't participate in the match, didn't repair or distract or unhook. He only waited in the locker for the best part of the match. But he deserves a free win, because he's the last one.
Here's my comment from the first page.Tsulan said:That´s called bad luck. Can´t win every match.
My proposal:
1. remove the hatch
2. gens can´t regress anymore, once there is only 1 survivor left
3. 5 minute timer starts that only stops when the survivor is repairing a gen, being chased or in the terror radius of the killer. Timer is only visible to the survivor. Once the time is over, the survivor starts to scream like he does against the doctor. This repeats every 60 seconds and gets shorter the often it happens.
4. OPTIONAL: survivor gets a gen repair speed bonus which stacks with Left Behind.
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I somehow doubt that.No_Cluie_Louis said:@GunManSpy said:
Mmm, that's pretty good...I'm kidding of course that must suck. I got stuck inside a locker in the dying state one time (I lagged too trying to get inside the locker when he hit me), killer couldn't get me out so I bled to death. And all these problems related to getting stuck in things is due to lag
They need dedicated servers man, that would fix 90% of the bugs.
They would require way more players for dedicated servers. Would require server farms around the world, so you don't get a worse ping than you have right now.
They also would have to rewrite a big chunk of code. Since this game wasn't planned for dedicated servers.
All this costs a ton of money. Unless the game gets popular like LoL or R6, I doubt that they even consider it. -
Nice.
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It might be because survivors underestimate Billy on lerys. They think he can't use his power.HeroLives said:
I feel like it stops a lot of looping Bc it creates more space for juking. I think lerys is very much a middle ground map. Most of the time you don’t even need to use the pallets. Maybe that’s why you enjoy it as billyTsulan said:
Lerys is my second favorite map as Billy.HeroLives said:
I play survivor and Lerys is my favorite map hands down.Techn0 said:@YankeeSan said:
3. Lery's Memorial is a great map, yall are just cowardsYES. I AGREE. IT'S SUCH A FUN MAP FOR KILLERS (except billy and nurse.)
I don't know why tho.
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So split second difference between 2 survivors leaving is nonsense but a magical exit opening is ok.brokedownpalace said:
No, this has been suggested before it's not fair. It's not even comparable. So if the last two survivors were crossing through the exit at roughly the same time, the one a second late would just be auto sacrificed? How does that make sense? There would be zero reason for survivors to stick around and try to help a survivor that is hooked or being chased because if they do they risk being last out.. and if they're planning on escaping it would be 100% pointless to rescue someone on the hook cause one of them would be guaranteed to be auto sacrificed.Tsulan said:
I would be ok with the hatch if the killer had a similar mechanic.brokedownpalace said:The only people upset by the hatch are tryhards. It triggers them to no end that they couldn't 4k and deprive every survivor of escape points. They'd rather slug the third survivor and then sit there or run around the map for 4 minutes desperately searching for the last survivor than just move on with their lives. It's all ego.
If he plays bad, everyone is about to escape but the entity prevents the last survivor from leaving and gives the killer 7000 points for hooking that guy.
Sounds fair, doesn't it?
I don't think you fully understand why the hatch exists. If it didn't then the last 1 or 2 survivors would have no hope of escaping in games where the first 2 or 3 were killed before 3 or 4 generators were completed. Remove the hatch or make it too difficult to get for the survivors and all you're going to get is a lot more disconnects and the killers will end up 1. Missing out on a bunch of BP, 2. Have a ton of completely unsatisfying "wins," 3. Have a much harder time acquiring trophies with killers that involve killing or sacrificing all 4 survivors. The hope of the hatch is what keeps survivors playing when they're getting destroyed by the killer due to that killer being awesome or their teammates being inept.
Left Behind is a joke of a perk and in 95% of matches would end up being entirely useless. That's like telling a killer to always equip Franklin's or Lightborn even when the survivors don't have any flashlights or other items because they might get one in a chest, even though there's like a 90% chance they're just gonna get some crappy brown item.
If there was no hatch, more people would equip left behind. It would be a endgame strategy like adrenaline.
Of course if you hand out free escapes, no one ever tries to use that perk.
And being the last survivor with gens to do actually feels like a horror game. Not like NASCAR. But that's a bad thing, right? -
When you are wrong, ran out of arguments but still keep going.powerbats said:@Orion said:
If you didn't intend to claim it was a mechanic, then maybe you shouldn't have replied to someone talking about game mechanics that allow Survivors to keep their add-ons.
The op never claimed it was game mechanics either though, they asked a question I gave an answer based upon my experience. Had I said this was a game mechanic or said it's probably a game mechanic that'd be different.
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Like it? I proposed it for months!
People used to depip to bully new players. Mission accomplished.
Now they need to adjust the matchmaking. So a SWF group isn't matched for the lowest rank.
They could also introduce a checkbox where new players are free to choose if they want to be matched with higher ranks, when the game doesn't find other players of their rank. -
Ninja suit incoming.
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I hope you don't think that fire up is useful in any way. Because it's as useful as deja vu was before the buff.NextKillerSpongebob said:It would add up with the perk Fire Up, which builds up for every gen done. It would need quite some high number buffs basically tho so survivors would cry too much and when that would happen, then the numbers would become too low and he'd be trash again...
OP, I would like to be able to kick survivors out of the dreamworld if I wish to. He should have way more control over the dreamworld. -
Lerys is my second favorite map as Billy.HeroLives said:
I play survivor and Lerys is my favorite map hands down.Techn0 said:@YankeeSan said:
3. Lery's Memorial is a great map, yall are just cowardsYES. I AGREE. IT'S SUCH A FUN MAP FOR KILLERS (except billy and nurse.)
I don't know why tho. -
I would be ok with the hatch if the killer had a similar mechanic.brokedownpalace said:The only people upset by the hatch are tryhards. It triggers them to no end that they couldn't 4k and deprive every survivor of escape points. They'd rather slug the third survivor and then sit there or run around the map for 4 minutes desperately searching for the last survivor than just move on with their lives. It's all ego.
If he plays bad, everyone is about to escape but the entity prevents the last survivor from leaving and gives the killer 7000 points for hooking that guy.
Sounds fair, doesn't it? -
You know I'm for a more severe punishment for disconnecting.fcc2014 said:@Brady said:
@Tsulan said:
Just remove the hatch.
It just rewards failure.
I've posted several times a fairer way to finish the match and keep it interesting until the end.What happens then when you were never hooked, all your teammates died...
In that circumstance, why should I be punished for the rest of the survivors practicing bad gameplay? It's not my fault they died.
Or how about 2 or 3 dc because that never happens but hey that is a failure right?
Yes that sucks. But if they all disconnect so early, then just accept your fate and move on to the next match.
Or would you expect a special treatment if your team disconnects in R6, LoL, or any other multiplayer game?
Go on their forum and ask for a free win, when your team disconnects. See what happens. -
No one is stopping you from equipping left behind and repair the gens all by yourself.Brady said:@Tsulan said:
Just remove the hatch.
It just rewards failure.
I've posted several times a fairer way to finish the match and keep it interesting until the end.What happens then when you were never hooked, all your teammates died...
In that circumstance, why should I be punished for the rest of the survivors practicing bad gameplay? It's not my fault they died.
Since you never got caught, you can keep playing like this. -
Aww stop it. Stop trolling. Go back to your bridge.SenzuDuck said:@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said: SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said: SenzuDuck said:
@Orion said: The point of the basement is to be dangerous and scary. Seems like it's working fine, according to your complaint. I personally think the stairs needs to be wider for the basement, at least. A killer shouldn't be able to stand in the basement stairs and prevent players from leaving.
I agree. Once survivors aren't able to body block the killer, the devs can make the stairs 3 meters wide. Ahhh a killer main advocating for taking the game hostage. Typical. Making the stairs wider is taking the game hostage?
######### are you talking about? You think killers should be able to sit in the stairwell and block survivors from escaping, which is the entire reason i think the stairs should be slightly wider, to prevent this, as it happens a lot.
What part of "make the stairs 3 meters wide" sounds like I want the killer to take the game hostage?
The part where you only want this to happen if body blocking is taken out - it's part of the game, there's even an achievement for it.
So body blocking is only ok while the survivors do it. But killers can't body block the hook.
You sure are biased.
Where did i say anything about body blocking hooks? You have a habit of putting stuff into peoples mouths.
Survivors shouldn't be able to body block the killer. Period.
Killers can't body block the hook anymore, because biased survivor mains like you complained non stop how unfair face camping is. Devs gave survivors like always everything they asked for and introduced swivel hooks for survivors. While keeping the fixed hook for killers. Survivors can unhook from any angle but killers can only hook from one angle. And this is "fair" because the killer can hit the survivors.
Bullshit!
You know what, I've never been taken hostage by the killer in 1000 hours. But dozens of times the survivors took my game hostage. But that's ok, because survivor issues are somehow more important. Not like there are humans on both sides.
You keep calling me killer main, but I play more solo survivor than killer. I never found it difficult to play solo. To play the way this game is meant to be played. But you act like this game is hard as survivor. -
So body blocking is only ok while the survivors do it. But killers can't body block the hook.SenzuDuck said:@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:
@Tsulan said: SenzuDuck said:
@Orion said: The point of the basement is to be dangerous and scary. Seems like it's working fine, according to your complaint. I personally think the stairs needs to be wider for the basement, at least. A killer shouldn't be able to stand in the basement stairs and prevent players from leaving.
I agree. Once survivors aren't able to body block the killer, the devs can make the stairs 3 meters wide. Ahhh a killer main advocating for taking the game hostage. Typical. Making the stairs wider is taking the game hostage?
######### are you talking about?
You think killers should be able to sit in the stairwell and block survivors from escaping, which is the entire reason i think the stairs should be slightly wider, to prevent this, as it happens a lot.
What part of "make the stairs 3 meters wide" sounds like I want the killer to take the game hostage?
The part where you only want this to happen if body blocking is taken out - it's part of the game, there's even an achievement for it.
You sure are biased. -
What part of "make the stairs 3 meters wide" sounds like I want the killer to take the game hostage?SenzuDuck said:@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:
@Orion said: The point of the basement is to be dangerous and scary. Seems like it's working fine, according to your complaint. I personally think the stairs needs to be wider for the basement, at least. A killer shouldn't be able to stand in the basement stairs and prevent players from leaving.
I agree. Once survivors aren't able to body block the killer, the devs can make the stairs 3 meters wide.
Ahhh a killer main advocating for taking the game hostage. Typical.
Making the stairs wider is taking the game hostage?
######### are you talking about?You think killers should be able to sit in the stairwell and block survivors from escaping, which is the entire reason i think the stairs should be slightly wider, to prevent this, as it happens a lot.
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Making the stairs wider is taking the game hostage?SenzuDuck said:@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:@Orion said:
The point of the basement is to be dangerous and scary. Seems like it's working fine, according to your complaint.
I personally think the stairs needs to be wider for the basement, at least. A killer shouldn't be able to stand in the basement stairs and prevent players from leaving.
I agree. Once survivors aren't able to body block the killer, the devs can make the stairs 3 meters wide.
Ahhh a killer main advocating for taking the game hostage. Typical.
######### are you talking about? -
So killers shouldn't be able to pip with a 4k because they use a ultra rare add-on.MegMain98 said:
That was obviously a Tombstone Myers. Getting no emblems in a chase OR sacrifice will not happen if you get a 4K. You’ll double pip normally with a 4K. Don’t use a Tombstone Myers as an example because you won’t pip that way. If you do it the normal way of sacrifice with a 4K you will at the VERY least pip.Tsulan said:@MegMain98 said:
DocOctober said:@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan remember when i said killers usually get more BPs than survivors? I'm not the only one who thinks that.
Yeah, well, you're both wrong.
Killers may get more per game, but Survivors generally get more per hour as they can move on from games and go into a new one much quicker than the Killer can, who always has to wait until it ends.
And even if it were the other way round, I think it would be justified by the fact that Killers only have single-use Add-ons, unlike Survivors.
Yeah but it is also much easier to pip with a killer than a survivor. You basically have to be the MVP in the round to double pip as a survivor. As a killer all you gotta do is kill on the safety pip and all four to double pip. You can climb the ranks easy with killer and go from Rank 20 to Rank 10 in a matter of a few hours while the survivor side is much more grindy to climb the ranks. Killers get more bloodpoints per round (normally) and pip easier. Survivors just have the luxury of jumping from game to game quicker.
I beg to differ. It´s not easier to pip as killer.
4k with 5 gens up.
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@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
@Vietfox said:
I still don't get why survivors are so focused on the hatch. You got 4 gens. Is it so important to get the hatch?
It's important when it comes to the situation i explained. I think i can say that most survivors focus on the gens already instead of the hatch. Survivors only think about the hatch when there are no other options.
EDIT: if 4 gens are done i'll surely consider to finish the last one. I've survived many times thanks to that while killer was camping the hatch.
I died so often with 1 gen left to do, only to see the other survivor instanly leave through the hatch.
If there are only 2 survivors left, most of the time, the survivors will search for the hatch instead of doing the last gen.Yeah, sometimes happens, i don't get why they do it. Teamwork is the thing i enjoy the most and that's one of the reasons why i main a survivor.
Thats why the hatch needs to go. Its counter productive to teamwork.
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@Vietfox said:
I still don't get why survivors are so focused on the hatch. You got 4 gens. Is it so important to get the hatch?
It's important when it comes to the situation i explained. I think i can say that most survivors focus on the gens already instead of the hatch. Survivors only think about the hatch when there are no other options.
EDIT: if 4 gens are done i'll surely consider to finish the last one. I've survived many times thanks to that while killer was camping the hatch.
I died so often with 1 gen left to do, only to see the other survivor instanly leave through the hatch.
If there are only 2 survivors left, most of the time, the survivors will search for the hatch instead of doing the last gen. -
I still don't get why survivors are so focused on the hatch. You got 4 gens. Is it so important to get the hatch?Vietfox said:@Saylia said:
Does League of Legends give you 10,000 gold as pity because your randoms are feeding?
Does Overwatch give you SR for a loss because your team couldn't get a grip?Team games, of all variety, require the team to work together to overcome whatever it is, in other cases another team, in this case a killer.
You got a bad team? Oh well, accept honorable defeat and move to the next one and hope they're better.
You shouldn't be given an advantage because your team "sucks", and you certainly shouldn't be given a free WIN.
Further, what about the guy who did squat all game and urban immersion'ed around the whole map not touching gens just to pop into the hatch and leave you to die?
Hatch needs to be removed completely for the time being, or at the very least closing it is balanced. And the end game needs to be reworked for both sides.
No reason a killer should have to completely give up on the last person at the end of every game because of the threat of the hatch or standoff, when they played well enough up to that point to deserve the full win.
You have more brains to put together, killer's got the one. Gen speed is ludicrous as it is, hatch is a bad mechanic.
I still don't see the problem with the hatch. You got 3 kills, is SO important that 4th one? Killer can still kill the last survivor before survivor gets the hatch, it's not like every survivor manages to escape through it.
Removing the hatch would also remove the uncertainty of the match's result, making it less interesting because everyone knows what's going to happen when you are the last one and there are still 2 or 3 gens needed. Providing a hatch makes the match interesting till the very end. -
@Master said:
@Tsulan said:
@Master said:
@Vietfox said:
Hatch is fine. If survivors had to go through those skill checks the standoffs would last longer because killer wouldn't leave it.
Yes, a survivor could repair gens instead, but that would reveal their location, making it an almost guaranteed kill.Hatch isnt fine, thats why devs attempted to change it.
I am just curious what they come up with next since the first idea got prevented by too much cryingMaybe chance the hatch in a way that it doesn´t guarantee 7000 BP but instead gives a 25% chance to get those points. The other 75% could result in a horrible death and even cost the survivor points.
Haha nice one, maybe I would give the hatch to the last DS guy then
It should be a gamble. Risk vs Reward. Devs love risk vs reward (at least for killer perks)
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@Master said:
@Vietfox said:
Hatch is fine. If survivors had to go through those skill checks the standoffs would last longer because killer wouldn't leave it.
Yes, a survivor could repair gens instead, but that would reveal their location, making it an almost guaranteed kill.Hatch isnt fine, thats why devs attempted to change it.
I am just curious what they come up with next since the first idea got prevented by too much cryingMaybe change the hatch in a way that it doesn´t guarantee 7000 BP but instead gives a 25% chance to get those points. The other 75% could result in a horrible death and even cost the survivor points.
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@MojoTheFabulous said:
@Tsulan said:
I´m still waiting for an actual Ninja Suit.
But it´ll probably be part of the next chapter.And of course it'll go to Claudette.
Maybe it´s for the new survivor.
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@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
@Action_Jaxon said:
Pay to win seems to be the new go to when the killer can't be accused of camping or tunneling, seeing and hearing this a lot more these days. Was accused of paying to win for using the clown the other day.
I don't usually complain about other people's grammar because they might be non-native english speakers, but the "we was" deserves a report xD
I was like ######### is he talking about...
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@Action_Jaxon said:
Pay to win seems to be the new go to when the killer can't be accused of camping or tunneling, seeing and hearing this a lot more these days. Was accused of paying to win for using the clown the other day. -
I´m still waiting for an actual Ninja Suit.
But it´ll probably be part of the next chapter. -
@Orion said:
@Tsulan said:
@DocOctober said:
@greenzebra64 said:
I'm pretty sure they're about to punish farming more soon though. They are going to subtract points for farming like the emblem systemSo? That's only reasonable. Back when WGLF used to give up to 300 % bonus points, the games were a farm-fest, to the detriment of hooked Survivors.
It was 200% bonus points.
It was +200% bonus points. In other words, 300% of the original value.
But he said...
Nevermind. we are all in the same boat here. Meaning the same thing.
WGLF bonus was to high. Survivors got it nerfed by hookfarming their own teammates.If survivors want to get it buffed, they have to live with the fact that they´ll get hook farmed and probably die more often.
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After spending 12 million dollars for the rights of their game, i´d say they plan on going on for awhile.
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@meshugganah said:
crusader for justice. anyone have a cape to spare?
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Now that i´m awake i would like to change my proposal:
Lithe + Quick&Quiet + Dance with Me + Lightweight.
You can vanish mid chase. -
@meshugganah said:
very few threads are unable to be labeled as bait here. a visceral reaction to any opinion is practically a guarantee.But calling Leatherface Pay2Win?
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Tunneling can sometimes be simply bad luck.
I often use MYC. When i come back to the hook i want to get the survivor who unhooked, but often only find the injured one. Is this tunneling? No, but i understand that the unhooked survivor has the impression that he´s being tunneled.Camping is... well survivors like to call everything camping. Killer can be far enough away to trigger MYC and still be called a camper. Yes, there are some killers which just like to stay near the hook and wait for others. That´s not fun, but a secondary effect of the Victory Cube. We don´t have it anymore, but old habbits die hard.
Only solution i see is to give the killers more incentives to leave the hook. Maybe buff the aura reading of BBQ instead of nerfing it. Or make Devour Hope a hexless perk.I agree on the rest tho.
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@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
As Doctor already said, you are both wrong.
Both killer and survivor get roughly the same amount per hour. If the survivor plays bad, he can just jump into the next match. If the killer plays bad, he´s stuck in that match until everyone left.
I also find it unfair that survivors can find items + add-ons during a match AND keep their items they brought into the match. While the killer always loses his add-ons.They need to escape first in order to keep the addons
I don´t know what to answer to this...
Do you want to keep your purple flashlight, even after dying first?Ofc not, i was just reminding that we don't keep items nor addons when survivors die.
Well, i can show you screenshots where survivors got more points while dying then survivors who escaped.
It´s also not necessary to survive to pip. Which is why i don´t really care if i survive or not. Unless i found a purple flashlight in a chest, then i feel bad. -
@powerbats said:
The killers will sometimes keep addons depending on how well they did so fi you say get brutal killer you oftentimes come out with 1 or both addons still.Lol what?
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Lightweight, Quick&Quiet and Dance with Me make a pretty good combo. You can add Urban Evasion or Iron Will + Claudette for maximum stealth.
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@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
As Doctor already said, you are both wrong.
Both killer and survivor get roughly the same amount per hour. If the survivor plays bad, he can just jump into the next match. If the killer plays bad, he´s stuck in that match until everyone left.
I also find it unfair that survivors can find items + add-ons during a match AND keep their items they brought into the match. While the killer always loses his add-ons.They need to escape first in order to keep the addons
I don´t know what to answer to this...
Do you want to keep your purple flashlight, even after dying first? -
Is this bait?
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@greenzebra64 said:
Giving up a perk slot for that perk isn't worth the bloodpoints. BBQ is way better plus killers get more bloodpoints than survivors.WGLF is superior to BBQ because it´s way easier to get WGLF stacks than BBQ stacks. If i have a good match i leave with 50.000+ BPs as survivor. Without any offerings.
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@DocOctober said:
@greenzebra64 said:
I'm pretty sure they're about to punish farming more soon though. They are going to subtract points for farming like the emblem systemSo? That's only reasonable. Back when WGLF used to give up to 300 % bonus points, the games were a farm-fest, to the detriment of hooked Survivors.
It was 200% bonus points.
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As Doctor already said, you are both wrong.
Both killer and survivor get roughly the same amount per hour. If the survivor plays bad, he can just jump into the next match. If the killer plays bad, he´s stuck in that match until everyone left.
I also find it unfair that survivors can find items + add-ons during a match AND keep their items they brought into the match. While the killer always loses his add-ons. -
@MegMain98 said:
DocOctober said:@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan remember when i said killers usually get more BPs than survivors? I'm not the only one who thinks that.
Yeah, well, you're both wrong.
Killers may get more per game, but Survivors generally get more per hour as they can move on from games and go into a new one much quicker than the Killer can, who always has to wait until it ends.
And even if it were the other way round, I think it would be justified by the fact that Killers only have single-use Add-ons, unlike Survivors.
Yeah but it is also much easier to pip with a killer than a survivor. You basically have to be the MVP in the round to double pip as a survivor. As a killer all you gotta do is kill on the safety pip and all four to double pip. You can climb the ranks easy with killer and go from Rank 20 to Rank 10 in a matter of a few hours while the survivor side is much more grindy to climb the ranks. Killers get more bloodpoints per round (normally) and pip easier. Survivors just have the luxury of jumping from game to game quicker.
I beg to differ. It´s not easier to pip as killer.
4k with 5 gens up. -
To each one his own. I find Pam cute.
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That´s called bad luck. Can´t win every match.
My proposal:
1. remove the hatch
2. gens can´t regress anymore, once there is only 1 survivor left
3. 5 minute timer starts that only stops when the survivor is repairing a gen, being chased or in the terror radius of the killer. Timer is only visible to the survivor. Once the time is over, the survivor starts to scream like he does against the doctor. This repeats every 60 seconds and gets shorter the often it happens.
4. OPTIONAL: survivor gets a gen repair speed bonus which stacks with Left Behind. -
So... Nea?