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Uhm it was more like this:MhhBurgers said:They made some quote genderneutral which is totally the same as slapping a monthly cost into a game that never was advertised/sold as a game requiring a monthly fee to play.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/7zpenf/take2_updating_terms_of_service_and_eula_for_ksp/
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Freddy 2.0
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Wolff_Bringer said:
Oh cool! Devs still balance around low ranks. What a blessing...
Both side perks are fine. 2 of Legions perks are amazing at low ranks or even for beginners, one of his perks is amazing on all times (especially on nurse or Hillbilly). Survivor perks are strong, yea. -
Freddy 2.0
Took them over 1 year to achieve that Freddy isn't the worst kiĺler.
Everyone expected a Freddy rework/buff. But the devs surprised us once again.
We got BHVR'd. -
We got BHVR'd.
It's 1 step forward and 2 backwards with them. -
Played both equally on rank 1.
Killer is stressing because he has the whole work load for the full match, while survivor is relaxing, because they share their load among 4 players.The thing i would want for survivors: a buff for support perks like Botany Knowledge, Prove Thyself, Leader, etc. and a new support perk that let´s survivors use single use perks more than once. But the last one only after DS has been nerfed.
For killers i want them all to be on Billys power level.
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They should add the other survivors faces too. And I want dwight's glasses!ChesterTheMolester said:@not_Queen @Patricia
Can you forward the request to just unlock Bubbas masks by default?
The surprise is gone and it feels like a chore to unlock them, not to even mention those poor Dwights and Jakes. -
Yep, that's pretty much the reason. Sorry for you. But every bubba player will make sure to get you first.GT_Legend2 said:
Is THAT why I only see Bubbas? Damn I gotta last second switch to Jake from now on lolTsulan said:
Claudette was effortless easy.ChesterTheMolester said:I was legit sorry for the Jakes i had to camp but they are to rare to let go.
But Jake? Holy [BAD WORD], he's like a unicorn. I caught myself switching to bubba if there was a Jake in the lobby. -
I wasn't sure at the beginning, but after the last comment I can confirm that this is bait.
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According to many people, it was supposed to kill DbD...fcc2014 said:@Tsulan said:
F13 did dedicated servers with no player base and no cost to the players. It does not necessarily mean they will be free but you will get a drop in the player base if players have to pay a monthly fee.
Yeah... and look how that game's health is.
It's almost dead.The game was dead before they announced the dedicated servers to be fair.
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So terms of use can't change after the property of the company changed?MhhBurgers said:@Bravo0413 said:
MhhBurgers said:@Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said:
@Bravo0413 said: Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said: @Carpemortum said: Tsulan said:
@Carpemortum said: Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBD Who the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield? Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free. death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee... So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs. In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server. EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies. Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us. Again it's not gonna happen unless they keep a peer to peer option which would basically split the playerbase. They'd kill their game through that. Giving us servers for free without any charges or changes in the monetarisation system, would also kill the game.
Now what?
Are you high? Your arguement went from "dedicated servers are gonna cost us money and ruin the game" to "free servers without making us pay will kill the game".
#########? I´m not high. What about you? Do you think Behavior has infinite money? That they can afford to spend a ton of money every month, so YOU can get your free dedicated servers? Because those costs would kill the game in the long run, if they don´t change the way they finance their game.
I asked if you were high bc you contradicted yourself. You're so into arguing here you havent realized I'm not arguing with you. Just keep pointing out your salty flip flopping. Where did i contradict myself? Please show me Your first arguement was "how we gonna pay for servers. Theyll charge us and it will end the game" Then it changed to "if they give us servers for free and dont charge us for them, it will kill the game" So is it free servers or charged servers that will kill the game? Or maybe just your incessant need to argue with people on a forum for a game you supposedly dont play.
What their saying is.... if the devs dont charge the player base for the servers the devs wont be able to afford em therefore the game will die.... I believe if the devs do charge us for the servers they need to give us something worthwhile to make up for it because yes otherwise the game will die.. You have tons of games out there that are objectively better than DBD with dedicated servers and all, most of the new MMORPGs cannot even think about releasing with paid subscription models anymore and yet there's people here that think a game like DBD would have a subscription model, ROFL. MOST consumers do not want to put up with a subscription model and DBD certainly is not worth a subscription fee, you're delusional to think otherwise. You see, the problem is, that DbD was designed to be p2p. It was never intended to have dedicated servers. The devs never wanted to implement them, because it's a ton of work to rewrite the code. Apart from the server costs, infrastructure, etc. Why do they implement them now? Maybe because there were always at least 3 threads asking for dedicated servers.
Our community asked for it. On countless occasions.
Devs finally gave in. But haven't specified any details.
Implementing a monthly cost isn't what we signed up for, when we bought the game. But it's what we've asked for, by asking the devs to spend a ton of money to change an existing game. Do you think the devs spend so much time and money, and even risk their whole business, just because they want to gift something to the community?
Like... really?
Again you're delusional. If the devs all of the sudden basically said: No you can't play our game unless you pay monthly then they can expect either mass refunds even after the fact or even a class action lawsuit.
It doesn't matter what maybe 1000 people out of 30.000 want when it comes to this.
And we are agreeing with what you're saying... if the devs don't make it worthwhile............... like DBD will have to be a brand new game... itll have to offer soo much to make monthly payment status.... we're talking WoW a game that requires payment but offers a lot...... the devs have stated multiple times "we weren't expecting DBD to grow as much as it has" so we know that bhvr was not prepared for this type of upgrade
This doesn't change the fact that people bought the game and the contract to the game basically didn't include a monthly payment. No matter how much they change the game (talking in a realistic sense here), they cannot change to monthly sub.
The guys from Kerbal Space Program would like to have a chat with you. There even was a useless ######### storm, after they changed the contract. -
Why does everyone insult on this matter?MhhBurgers said:@Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said:@Bravo0413 said:
Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said: @Carpemortum said: Tsulan said:
@Carpemortum said: Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBD Who the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield? Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free. death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee... So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs. In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server. EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies. Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us. Again it's not gonna happen unless they keep a peer to peer option which would basically split the playerbase. They'd kill their game through that. Giving us servers for free without any charges or changes in the monetarisation system, would also kill the game.
Now what?
Are you high? Your arguement went from "dedicated servers are gonna cost us money and ruin the game" to "free servers without making us pay will kill the game".
#########? I´m not high. What about you? Do you think Behavior has infinite money? That they can afford to spend a ton of money every month, so YOU can get your free dedicated servers? Because those costs would kill the game in the long run, if they don´t change the way they finance their game.
I asked if you were high bc you contradicted yourself. You're so into arguing here you havent realized I'm not arguing with you. Just keep pointing out your salty flip flopping. Where did i contradict myself? Please show me Your first arguement was "how we gonna pay for servers. Theyll charge us and it will end the game" Then it changed to "if they give us servers for free and dont charge us for them, it will kill the game" So is it free servers or charged servers that will kill the game? Or maybe just your incessant need to argue with people on a forum for a game you supposedly dont play.
What their saying is.... if the devs dont charge the player base for the servers the devs wont be able to afford em therefore the game will die.... I believe if the devs do charge us for the servers they need to give us something worthwhile to make up for it because yes otherwise the game will die..
You have tons of games out there that are objectively better than DBD with dedicated servers and all, most of the new MMORPGs cannot even think about releasing with paid subscription models anymore and yet there's people here that think a game like DBD would have a subscription model, ROFL.
MOST consumers do not want to put up with a subscription model and DBD certainly is not worth a subscription fee, you're delusional to think otherwise.
You see, the problem is, that DbD was designed to be p2p. It was never intended to have dedicated servers. The devs never wanted to implement them, because it's a ton of work to rewrite the code. Apart from the server costs, infrastructure, etc.
Why do they implement them now? Maybe because there were always at least 3 threads asking for dedicated servers.
Our community asked for it. On countless occasions.
Devs finally gave in. But haven't specified any details.Implementing a monthly cost isn't what we signed up for, when we bought the game. But it's what we've asked for, by asking the devs to spend a ton of money to change an existing game.
Do you think the devs spend so much time and money, and even risk their whole business, just because they want to gift something to the community?
Like... really?
Again you're delusional. If the devs all of the sudden basically said: No you can't play our game unless you pay monthly then they can expect either mass refunds even after the fact or even a class action lawsuit.
It doesn't matter what maybe 1000 people out of 30.000 want when it comes to this.
Anyway, the devs could simply add a p2p unranked mode and base the ranked on a monthly subscription.
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Thank you!OrionsFury4789 said:
It’s alright @Tsulan don’t let these guys bait you into arguing, I’ve seen your posts in the past you know your ######### with this game you’ve just grown tired of all the BS tied in with it and I can’t say I blame you muchTsulan said:
Source?Dreamnomad said:@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBDWho the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield?
Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free.
death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee...Dude, there aren't going to be any monthly fees. Enough with the rumor starting. There is absolutely zero percent chance that this happens.
At least someone who understands me. -
You see, the problem is, that DbD was designed to be p2p. It was never intended to have dedicated servers. The devs never wanted to implement them, because it's a ton of work to rewrite the code. Apart from the server costs, infrastructure, etc.MhhBurgers said:@Bravo0413 said:
Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:
@Carpemortum said: Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBD Who the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield? Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free. death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee... So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs. In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server. EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies. Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us. Again it's not gonna happen unless they keep a peer to peer option which would basically split the playerbase. They'd kill their game through that. Giving us servers for free without any charges or changes in the monetarisation system, would also kill the game.
Now what?
Are you high? Your arguement went from "dedicated servers are gonna cost us money and ruin the game" to "free servers without making us pay will kill the game".
#########? I´m not high. What about you? Do you think Behavior has infinite money? That they can afford to spend a ton of money every month, so YOU can get your free dedicated servers? Because those costs would kill the game in the long run, if they don´t change the way they finance their game.
I asked if you were high bc you contradicted yourself. You're so into arguing here you havent realized I'm not arguing with you. Just keep pointing out your salty flip flopping.
Where did i contradict myself? Please show me
Your first arguement was "how we gonna pay for servers. Theyll charge us and it will end the game"
Then it changed to "if they give us servers for free and dont charge us for them, it will kill the game"
So is it free servers or charged servers that will kill the game?
Or maybe just your incessant need to argue with people on a forum for a game you supposedly dont play.
What their saying is.... if the devs dont charge the player base for the servers the devs wont be able to afford em therefore the game will die.... I believe if the devs do charge us for the servers they need to give us something worthwhile to make up for it because yes otherwise the game will die..
You have tons of games out there that are objectively better than DBD with dedicated servers and all, most of the new MMORPGs cannot even think about releasing with paid subscription models anymore and yet there's people here that think a game like DBD would have a subscription model, ROFL.
MOST consumers do not want to put up with a subscription model and DBD certainly is not worth a subscription fee, you're delusional to think otherwise.
Why do they implement them now? Maybe because there were always at least 3 threads asking for dedicated servers.
Our community asked for it. On countless occasions.
Devs finally gave in. But haven't specified any details.
Implementing a monthly cost isn't what we signed up for, when we bought the game. But it's what we've asked for, by asking the devs to spend a ton of money to change an existing game.
Do you think the devs spend so much time and money, and even risk their whole business, just because they want to gift something to the community?
Like... really? -
Source?Dreamnomad said:@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBDWho the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield?
Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free.
death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee...Dude, there aren't going to be any monthly fees. Enough with the rumor starting. There is absolutely zero percent chance that this happens.
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Ubisoft can afford to have tons of dedicated servers. I highly doubt that behavior can afford them.ReneAensland said:I wouldn't mind paying. But....games are expected to have dedicated servers, we're heading into 2019.
For Honor made their P2P to Servers without the charge after people like Crowbcat blasted them for not having dedicated servers.
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Yeah... and look how that game's health is.fcc2014 said:
F13 did dedicated servers with no player base and no cost to the players. It does not necessarily mean they will be free but you will get a drop in the player base if players have to pay a monthly fee.Tsulan said:
Or if they wouldn't plan to get the money from somewhere else. Like the players that craved for dedicated servers.BeanieEnthusiast saidThey wouldn’t introduce dedicated servers if they couldn’t pay for them. Logic.
It's almost dead. -
Claudette was effortless easy.ChesterTheMolester said:I was legit sorry for the Jakes i had to camp but they are to rare to let go.
But Jake? Holy #########, he's like a unicorn. I caught myself switching to bubba if there was a Jake in the lobby. -
Looks like I got a new fan.Carpemortum said:
But....Tsulan said:But...
I need that face!
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Or if they wouldn't plan to get the money from somewhere else. Like the players that craved for dedicated servers.BeanieEnthusiast said:They wouldn’t introduce dedicated servers if they couldn’t pay for them. Logic.
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And where did I contradict?Carpemortum said:
Your first arguement was "how we gonna pay for servers. Theyll charge us and it will end the game"Tsulan said:@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBD Who the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield? Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free. death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee... So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs. In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server. EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies. Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us. Again it's not gonna happen unless they keep a peer to peer option which would basically split the playerbase. They'd kill their game through that. Giving us servers for free without any charges or changes in the monetarisation system, would also kill the game.
Now what?
Are you high? Your arguement went from "dedicated servers are gonna cost us money and ruin the game" to "free servers without making us pay will kill the game".
#########?
I´m not high. What about you?
Do you think Behavior has infinite money? That they can afford to spend a ton of money every month, so YOU can get your free dedicated servers? Because those costs would kill the game in the long run, if they don´t change the way they finance their game.
I asked if you were high bc you contradicted yourself. You're so into arguing here you havent realized I'm not arguing with you. Just keep pointing out your salty flip flopping.
Where did i contradict myself? Please show me
Then it changed to "if they give us servers for free and dont charge us for them, it will kill the game"
So is it free servers or charged servers that will kill the game?
Or maybe just your incessant need to argue with people on a forum for a game you supposedly dont play.
YOU said, that paid servers will kill the game. Probably because you think people won't pay for servers as a service they always asked for. Duh...
I said, that giving us those servers for free without changing the monetary system will kill the game. Because servers are expensive. If the players don't pay for it, the devs would have to take the money from somewhere else.
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I asked you to show me where I contradicted myself. But again, you can only insult.Carpemortum said:@Tsulan
Feel free to keep repeating your parrot speech and toxicity. I'm out. I've made my point and you know it.
Stop being salty at the people who enjoy the game. Especially if you "dont play". Its just cancerous to the community.
This thread is so off topic at this point.
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It's actually cute how you keep calling me names instead of arguing.Carpemortum said:
I know. I didnt tell you not to. I said you can FEEL FREE not to since you dont play and offer no real constructive criticism other than " I've been burned dont trust the devs".Tsulan said:@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:
Nickenzie said: Tsulan said: I'm surprised no one has thought about monthly fees.
Behavior isn't Ubisoft.
They can't afford to pump out servers en masse without charging for them.
What happened to the old @Tuslan where you was so thankful about everything you received? I missed that part about you. I grew tired of that #########.
Hell, I even stopped playing DbD.
Stopped playing? So either you're lying and salty af. Or you quit and cant let other people enjoy it.
Grow tf up.
Or i can have an opinion and use my brain. Instead of just cheering for a 10 second notification without ANY details.
You behave like the dedicated servers will solve every single problem the game has right now.
Believe me, them holding back on everything isn´t a good sign. I´ve been around for 2 years, with over 1000 hours. I´ve been let down by the devs more often than not. And if they don´t share more on that behalf, it´s because it won´t make people cheer.
I dont behave like I say theyll solve all the problems. I behave like you're a salty manchild on a forum for a game you dont play changing your arguement about how theyll end the game, while trying to rain on everybody elses parade.
If you dont like the game, feel free to not post here and pester people who do enjoy it.
Btw, don´t try to tell people that they should stop posting here. Mods don´t like that
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@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:
Nickenzie said: Tsulan said: I'm surprised no one has thought about monthly fees.
Behavior isn't Ubisoft.
They can't afford to pump out servers en masse without charging for them.
What happened to the old @Tuslan where you was so thankful about everything you received? I missed that part about you. I grew tired of that #########.
Hell, I even stopped playing DbD.
Stopped playing? So either you're lying and salty af. Or you quit and cant let other people enjoy it.
Grow tf up.
Or i can have an opinion and use my brain. Instead of just cheering for a 10 second notification without ANY details.
You behave like the dedicated servers will solve every single problem the game has right now.
Believe me, them holding back on everything isn´t a good sign. I´ve been around for 2 years, with over 1000 hours. I´ve been let down by the devs more often than not. And if they don´t share more on that behalf, it´s because it won´t make people cheer.
I dont behave like I say theyll solve all the problems. I behave like you're a salty manchild on a forum for a game you dont play changing your arguement about how theyll end the game, while trying to rain on everybody elses parade.
If you dont like the game, feel free to not post here and pester people who do enjoy it.
Btw, don´t try to tell people that they should stop posting here. Mods don´t like that
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@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBD Who the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield? Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free. death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee... So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs. In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server. EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies. Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us. Again it's not gonna happen unless they keep a peer to peer option which would basically split the playerbase. They'd kill their game through that. Giving us servers for free without any charges or changes in the monetarisation system, would also kill the game.
Now what?
Are you high? Your arguement went from "dedicated servers are gonna cost us money and ruin the game" to "free servers without making us pay will kill the game".
#########?
I´m not high. What about you?
Do you think Behavior has infinite money? That they can afford to spend a ton of money every month, so YOU can get your free dedicated servers? Because those costs would kill the game in the long run, if they don´t change the way they finance their game.
I asked if you were high bc you contradicted yourself. You're so into arguing here you havent realized I'm not arguing with you. Just keep pointing out your salty flip flopping.
Where did i contradict myself? Please show me
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@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:
Nickenzie said:
Tsulan said:I'm surprised no one has thought about monthly fees.
Behavior isn't Ubisoft.
They can't afford to pump out servers en masse without charging for them.What happened to the old @Tuslan where you was so thankful about everything you received? I missed that part about you.
I grew tired of that #########.
Hell, I even stopped playing DbD.Stopped playing?
So either you're lying and salty af.
Or you quit and cant let other people enjoy it.
Grow tf up.
Or i can have an opinion and use my brain. Instead of just cheering for a 10 second notification without ANY details.
You behave like the dedicated servers will solve every single problem the game has right now.
Believe me, them holding back on everything isn´t a good sign. I´ve been around for 2 years, with over 1000 hours. I´ve been let down by the devs more often than not. And if they don´t share more on that behalf, it´s because it won´t make people cheer. -
@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said:@Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: @Tsulan said: @MhhBurgers said: Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBD Who the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield? Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free. death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee... So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs. In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server. EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies. Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us.
Again it's not gonna happen unless they keep a peer to peer option which would basically split the playerbase. They'd kill their game through that.
Giving us servers for free without any charges or changes in the monetarisation system, would also kill the game.
Now what?Are you high? Your arguement went from "dedicated servers are gonna cost us money and ruin the game" to "free servers without making us pay will kill the game".
#########?
I´m not high. What about you?
Do you think Behavior has infinite money? That they can afford to spend a ton of money every month, so YOU can get your free dedicated servers? Because those costs would kill the game in the long run, if they don´t change the way they finance their game. -
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I grew tired of that #########.Nickenzie said:
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I let both go.MisterCremaster said:You are holding onto your grandmother's hand and the hand of a newborn that you do not know as they hang over the edge of a cliff. You have to let one go to save the other. Who do you let fall to their death? What was your rationale for making the decision?
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Giving us servers for free without any charges or changes in the monetarisation system, would also kill the game.MhhBurgers said:@Tsulan said:
MhhBurgers said:@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBD
Who the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield?
Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free.
death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee...
So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs.
In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server.
EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies.
Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us.Again it's not gonna happen unless they keep a peer to peer option which would basically split the playerbase. They'd kill their game through that.
Now what? -
Oh there's a reason those businesses act like that. Because people might actually switch the product if they get treated like #########.George_Soros said:@Tsulan said:
George_Soros said:
Tsulan said:
ItsYourBoyGuzma said:I think we can all agree that Mcote is a pretty cool guy.
Not after the "just play a different game" statement.
That statement is exactly what made him cool. None of that sucking up to entitled, disgruntled, demanding customers who can never be satisfied anyway.
Lol what?
Are you serious?
Other people get fired after making comments like this.The question was a legit one. Not a rant or anything. And as response he gets a play something else? Very professional...
Yes, I'm serious. We're so used to every business, from the jeans shop where we pick up our pants, our ISP, any KFC or coffee shop we visit or whatever else will just bend backwards to please us. "Thank you sir, is there anything else we can do for you sir, can I just kiss your boots one more time sir?"
Very unhealthy. This phenomenon is one of the reasons why you can see endless number of shrieking demands, often completely nonsensical, aimed at the devs. I very much respect an attitude that says "Look, here's our product. We think it's pretty good, but if you don't like it, feel free to buy from anywhere else, wherever the hell they're willing to cater for all your needs. We don't need your money THAT much."
Best example is, how he had to apologize within hours.
And the question the guy made, wasn't something weird or nonsensical. But as response he got basically a prime example of how to start a ######### storm and get your customers to never come back. -
Lol what?George_Soros said:
That statement is exactly what made him cool. None of that sucking up to entitled, disgruntled, demanding customers who can never be satisfied anyway.Tsulan said:
Not after the "just play a different game" statement.ItsYourBoyGuzma said:I think we can all agree that Mcote is a pretty cool guy.
Are you serious?
Other people get fired after making comments like this.
The question was a legit one. Not a rant or anything. And as response he gets a play something else? Very professional... -
In EAs Betafield 1, people had to rent the expensive servers if they wanted to have a dedicated clan server.MhhBurgers said:@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBDWho the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield?
Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free.
death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee...So how many shooters and multiplayer games with no consistent world do you know that have a monthly fee outside of MMORPGs.
EA has money and still rented out the servers. Ubisoft doesn't do it. But Behavior isn't one of those big companies.
Do you really think they roll out something as expensive as dedicated servers with the current system? P2P doesn't cost them. But servers? That's a whole different story.
Why don't you reread all the information they released on that term. They never claimed it would be free for us. -
You said useless.Zanely89 said:I said much difficult, not impossible, totally different thing. Are you trying to reply to OP and get the wrong person or something?
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Huh? Impossible?Zanely89 said:They revert the pick up speed to the old one, not sure what is the reason but probably due to flashlight being useless currently because the flashlight save is much difficult to pull off now.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Tsulan said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBDWho the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield?
Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free.
death garden has no monthly fee and the devs know full well that this game would be dead within a month if monthly fees got introduced.
Death Garden is still Alpha.
The Alphas of WoW or Betafield also had no monthly fee... -
@ItsYourBoyGuzma said:
@Tsulan said:
ItsYourBoyGuzma said:I think we can all agree that Mcote is a pretty cool guy.
Not after the "just play a different game" statement.
lmao still upset about that hmm, at least theyre making killer more enjoyable to play.
Better late than never.Legion sure looks enjoyable...
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Not after the "just play a different game" statement.ItsYourBoyGuzma said:I think we can all agree that Mcote is a pretty cool guy.
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I´d say that we all agree, that we have the most toxic community.
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@MhhBurgers said:
Who the heck would pay monthly fees for DBDWho the heck would pay monthly fees to rent dedicated clan servers for Betafield?
Someone has to pay. Devs never said that the dedicated servers will be free for us. Or at least i haven´t read anything about them being free.
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@Fenrir said:
Tsulan said:Don't want to burst the bubble for you. But lag will still occur. Even with dedicated servers. It might even get worse. Depending on the servers location.
The devs could also make the community pay for the servers by giving us monthly fees.
If they tried that the game would die for sure
So who will pay for those servers? I mean, even EA let the players pay for dedicated servers for Betafield.
What makes you think Behavior can afford to give this service out for free?
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@Carpemortum said:
Tsulan said:Don't want to burst the bubble for you. But lag will still occur. Even with dedicated servers. It might even get worse. Depending on the servers location.
The devs could also make the community pay for the servers by giving us monthly fees.
I doubt they can or will get away with suddenly adding in monthly fees to a game that has never had them. That's ridiculous.
You mean like adding dedicated servers to a game that was never developed with them in mind?
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It's false advertising.
Not marketing.
Not a mistake.
Not a misunderstanding.
Just false advertising.
You know, like what happened with Bethesda. Where they announced a quality bag and delivered a cheap plastic bag.
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F2P with tons of cheaters, hackers and lag switchers? Sounds fun!
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@Tsulan said:
Now we have Freddy 2.0 but at least he can vault pallets!
Killer being able to kill? Go away with this nonsense!We got the killer the survivor community asked for. Someone who gives the thrill of a chase without being an actual threat. Someone who can't even tunnel.
I hope survivor mains buy this chapter. Because I doubt that killers will.
Dear lord man you pretend like the devs are purposefully giving killer mains the middle finger. So they made a killer that isn't as viable. Happens. Both Clown and Spirit, the last two killer, turned out to be viable, especially Spirit.
Plus we should still wait and see how he plays with the new changes before coming to final conclusions. I still think he might be better than some of the other killers in the game.
Plus I will get the new killer that's for sure.
Oh did I miss clown as one of the top killers?
Mmhh I never see him on rank 1. Must be my imagination...
I didn't expect much before they released him on the PTB. And I still were disappointed.
The times of valid killers like Billy and Nurse are over. Let's face it.
Even the devs think that not all killers should be valid. So, I'll just save my money.
I haven't spent money since Freddy was released. Before that fiasco, I bought every DLC. But after that joke? Naah -
If I remember correctly, you don't play killer then.The_Crusader said:
No #########, it's basically just "don't buff the side I don't play".Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
I'll admit, some of the posts deserved the lols. Killers would do it to survivor posts too. But there were many times people would have logical ideas that would like 20-25 lols and NO-ONE would explain why they disagreed, or if they did, they were condescending.The_Crusader said:
Oh my, the irony.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Guess the devs hoped that by removing the "LOL's" that survivor mains would quit spamming all killer buff posts with it whilst contributing nothing to the discussion.JanTheMan said:Nooooo!!!
There was definitely some people abusing it but not the people you think it was.
Back to topic.
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As I said, false advertising.RSB said:@Tsulan said:
Marvel said:@Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
Any date yet?
I was joking like The Legion in their current state are a joke. There is a new Legion trailer on youtube though that shows how The Legion kills with 1 stab
Wouldn't that be false advertising?
So is calling Legion a "killer".
Nea has probably killed more people.