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But they did exactly that. BBQ was introduced to give killers a reason to leave the hook.Mashtyx1 said:@Tsulan Not to argue because this community is just... wow. But isn't saying "The devs gave it to killers to prevent camping." Still an excuse? Like think about it... People argue camping is bad and not making the game fun and all I see as a come back is, "it's a legitimate strategy" or "the devs gave it to us to reduce campong!" But that's just an excuse to prove your point? Without actually sitting down and having a discussion. Though I know this community and oh boy can 99% of it not actually have a normal conversation.
Now they took that away. Don't know what they expected by doing this.
But probably not less camps.
And what do you mean with our community? Do you think camping is toxic? -
Not an excuse. Just a deduction.JanTheMan said:Aw, so this is the new excuse.
After all, the devs gave us BBQ to reduce camping and to increase the number of killers. -
If you constantly face lagging killers, the problem might be on your end.
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@peanits threads like this one scream for the lol button!
Please, we need it back!
Oh and legion is the weakest killer we have. Yeah, he can down you after hitting you 4 times with his rubber spoon. -
Yeah, like Florida.thesuicidefox said: -
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Rank 20 players say killer is op.Nickenzie said:
Why do people brag about rank? I hear countless people saying it doesn't matter but I also hear people say it does matter. Which one is it?Tsulan said:@Madjura said:
@Tsulan said:
SK92 said:This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weak
The fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers
You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there
You can't use him exactly as any other killer
If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly)
This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ?
Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now
Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak
They're good in the right hands
You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning.You say Freddy is strong in the right hands. I assume you played him to rank 1, yes?
Not the same guy but I have, multiple times. Last season after rank reset I got to rank 1 playing exclusively Freddy, without perks or add-ons. If you think Freddy is bad then you are just too incompetent to play him correctly.
I was asking the other guy, don´t know why you feel offended and start to insult.
Oh btw, i DID reach rank 1 with him, playing him perkless.
Do I need to say more?
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Reaching a certain rank on both sides, usually gives players a better perspective.Nickenzie said:
I mean yeah sure, rank 20 is where the newer players are at. However, what makes rank 1 special?Tsulan said:
Rank 20 players say killer is op.Nickenzie said:
Why do people brag about rank? I hear countless people saying it doesn't matter but I also hear people say it does matter. Which one is it?Tsulan said:@Madjura said:
@Tsulan said:
SK92 said:This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weak
The fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers
You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there
You can't use him exactly as any other killer
If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly)
This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ?
Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now
Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak
They're good in the right hands
You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning.You say Freddy is strong in the right hands. I assume you played him to rank 1, yes?
Not the same guy but I have, multiple times. Last season after rank reset I got to rank 1 playing exclusively Freddy, without perks or add-ons. If you think Freddy is bad then you are just too incompetent to play him correctly.
I was asking the other guy, don´t know why you feel offended and start to insult.
Oh btw, i DID reach rank 1 with him, playing him perkless.
Do I need to say more?
If someone only plays one side, and rarely plays the other side, especially on rank 20. That person might have a distorted view of the games balance. -
Killer has to hook 4 different survivors to get 4 stacks. Therefore I propose that survivors only get 1-2 stacks per survivor. 1 for a unhook and another 1 for getting hit next to that survivor. But not 4 stacks from the same survivor.
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Just camp if you don't see any auras with BBQ. Survivors wanted it nerfed, now they got what they asked for.
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I was being ironical.purebalance said:I think he's impersonating the survivors pretending to be killer mains who keep saying killer queues are bad because of survivor nerfs
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Yes, this sums it up.Attackfrog said:Killer's broke game. Too op.
Matches take too long cuz camping.
Need killer nerfs so more peeple playz survivor.
Does that about sum it up @Tsulan ?
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@Brady said:
Why not buff Small Game (The Survivor perk) to do just that?Uhh
Arguing with logic and common sense.
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SpongeBob420Pants said: @The_Crusader + @Iceman Sorry but you are both wrong, SWF can easily call anything out to each other (how many totems are left is just one of them) this change would make solo que a lot more fair and there's nothing fun about finding out the killer has NOED and there was no way to keep track of countering it. You are right. SWF calls out every totem and your idea would be a QoL change for survivors.
While at the same time it would be a huge nerf for NOED. NOED only punishes gen rushers and halves the amount of hits the killer needs. Unlike DS which doesn't have a counter and rewards failure.
I agree on noed punishing genrushers, but you gotta admit it also rewards failure to the killer for letting survivors do all 5 gens. It depends. Show me a killer who can stop a SWF gen rush. The depip squad made that pretty clear. If a SWF group is dedicated to rush, no killer can stop them. @Tsulan
Hag 3 gens game.
With her i don't really care about genrushing, i actually encourage it. I just make sure they do the gens i want to be done.
Edit: i've watched quite a few videos from the depip squad and honestly, many of the killers they were facing were pretty bad.
Is countered by 1 perk and SWF. @Tsulan
Well, of course everything can be countered, would be unfair otherwise.
You asked me for a killer who can deal with genrush and i provided that information. Also ofc the hag is not the only one who can play the 3 gens game.
If survivors have some brain left, they won't fall for 3 gen strat.
It's easier with some killers. But not guaranteed to work.
@Tsulan
I'm one of those survivors
(unless i'm extremely drunk)As a said, everything should have a counter, so it's fine.
PS: replies from cellphones dont send the notification by default.
Ok, lets go back to OP NOED.
@Tsulan
I personally think noed is fine. I dont get all this hate towards it.I don´t get the hate either. I guess it has something to do with that survivors think they won the game, once all gens are repaired. That they deserve to escape.
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@Vietfox said:
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SpongeBob420Pants said: @The_Crusader + @Iceman Sorry but you are both wrong, SWF can easily call anything out to each other (how many totems are left is just one of them) this change would make solo que a lot more fair and there's nothing fun about finding out the killer has NOED and there was no way to keep track of countering it. You are right. SWF calls out every totem and your idea would be a QoL change for survivors.
While at the same time it would be a huge nerf for NOED.
NOED only punishes gen rushers and halves the amount of hits the killer needs. Unlike DS which doesn't have a counter and rewards failure.
@Tsulan
I agree on noed punishing genrushers, but you gotta admit it also rewards failure to the killer for letting survivors do all 5 gens.
It depends. Show me a killer who can stop a SWF gen rush. The depip squad made that pretty clear. If a SWF group is dedicated to rush, no killer can stop them.
@Tsulan
Hag 3 gens game.
With her i don't really care about genrushing, i actually encourage it. I just make sure they do the gens i want to be done.
Edit: i've watched quite a few videos from the depip squad and honestly, many of the killers they were facing were pretty bad.Is countered by 1 perk and SWF.
@Tsulan
Well, of course everything can be countered, would be unfair otherwise.
You asked me for a killer who can deal with genrush and i provided that information. Also ofc the hag is not the only one who can play the 3 gens game.If survivors have some brain left, they won't fall for 3 gen strat.
It's easier with some killers. But not guaranteed to work.@Tsulan
I'm one of those survivors (unless i'm extremely drunk)
As a said, everything should have a counter, so it's fine.
PS: replies from cellphones dont send the notification by default.Ok, lets go back to OP NOED.
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Rank 20 players say killer is op.Nickenzie said:
Why do people brag about rank? I hear countless people saying it doesn't matter but I also hear people say it does matter. Which one is it?Tsulan said:@Madjura said:
@Tsulan said:
SK92 said:This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weak
The fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers
You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there
You can't use him exactly as any other killer
If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly)
This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ?
Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now
Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak
They're good in the right hands
You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning.You say Freddy is strong in the right hands. I assume you played him to rank 1, yes?
Not the same guy but I have, multiple times. Last season after rank reset I got to rank 1 playing exclusively Freddy, without perks or add-ons. If you think Freddy is bad then you are just too incompetent to play him correctly.
I was asking the other guy, don´t know why you feel offended and start to insult.
Oh btw, i DID reach rank 1 with him, playing him perkless.
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If survivors have some brain left, they won't fall for 3 gen strat.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
Is countered by 1 perk and SWF.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:@Vietfox said:
Tsulan said:
SpongeBob420Pants said:Sorry but you are both wrong, SWF can easily call anything out to each other (how many totems are left is just one of them) this change would make solo que a lot more fair and there's nothing fun about finding out the killer has NOED and there was no way to keep track of countering it.
You are right. SWF calls out every totem and your idea would be a QoL change for survivors.
While at the same time it would be a huge nerf for NOED.
NOED only punishes gen rushers and halves the amount of hits the killer needs. Unlike DS which doesn't have a counter and rewards failure.@Tsulan
I agree on noed punishing genrushers, but you gotta admit it also rewards failure to the killer for letting survivors do all 5 gens.It depends. Show me a killer who can stop a SWF gen rush. The depip squad made that pretty clear. If a SWF group is dedicated to rush, no killer can stop them.
Hag 3 gens game.
With her i don't really care about genrushing, i actually encourage it. I just make sure they do the gens i want to be done.
Edit: i've watched quite a few videos from the depip squad and honestly, many of the killers they were facing were pretty bad.
Well, of course everything can be countered, would be unfair otherwise.
You asked me for a killer who can deal with genrush and i provided that information. Also ofc the hag is not the only one who can play the 3 gens game.
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So NOED is imba?SpongeBob420Pants said:@Tsulan said:
You are right. SWF calls out every totem and your idea would be a QoL change for survivors.
While at the same time it would be a huge nerf for NOED.
NOED only punishes gen rushers and halves the amount of hits the killer needs. Unlike DS which doesn't have a counter and rewards failure.If you want to talk about the balance of DS start your own discussion, what's being discussed here is NOED and totem tracking (I personally feel that DS shouldn't be an obsession perk and should always require the 50% wiggle).
What a stupid fallacy you committed "imbalance is ok because some other form of imbalance also exists" -
Is countered by 1 perk and SWF.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:@Vietfox said:
Tsulan said:
SpongeBob420Pants said:Sorry but you are both wrong, SWF can easily call anything out to each other (how many totems are left is just one of them) this change would make solo que a lot more fair and there's nothing fun about finding out the killer has NOED and there was no way to keep track of countering it.
You are right. SWF calls out every totem and your idea would be a QoL change for survivors.
While at the same time it would be a huge nerf for NOED.
NOED only punishes gen rushers and halves the amount of hits the killer needs. Unlike DS which doesn't have a counter and rewards failure.@Tsulan
I agree on noed punishing genrushers, but you gotta admit it also rewards failure to the killer for letting survivors do all 5 gens.It depends. Show me a killer who can stop a SWF gen rush. The depip squad made that pretty clear. If a SWF group is dedicated to rush, no killer can stop them.
Hag 3 gens game.
With her i don't really care about genrushing, i actually encourage it. I just make sure they do the gens i want to be done.
Edit: i've watched quite a few videos from the depip squad and honestly, many of the killers they were facing were pretty bad. -
@Vietfox said:
Tsulan said:
SpongeBob420Pants said:Sorry but you are both wrong, SWF can easily call anything out to each other (how many totems are left is just one of them) this change would make solo que a lot more fair and there's nothing fun about finding out the killer has NOED and there was no way to keep track of countering it.
You are right. SWF calls out every totem and your idea would be a QoL change for survivors.
While at the same time it would be a huge nerf for NOED.
NOED only punishes gen rushers and halves the amount of hits the killer needs. Unlike DS which doesn't have a counter and rewards failure.@Tsulan
I agree on noed punishing genrushers, but you gotta admit it also rewards failure to the killer for letting survivors do all 5 gens.It depends. Show me a killer who can stop a SWF gen rush. The depip squad made that pretty clear. If a SWF group is dedicated to rush, no killer can stop them.
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You are right. SWF calls out every totem and your idea would be a QoL change for survivors.SpongeBob420Pants said:Sorry but you are both wrong, SWF can easily call anything out to each other (how many totems are left is just one of them) this change would make solo que a lot more fair and there's nothing fun about finding out the killer has NOED and there was no way to keep track of countering it.
While at the same time it would be a huge nerf for NOED.
NOED only punishes gen rushers and halves the amount of hits the killer needs. Unlike DS which doesn't have a counter and rewards failure. -
Yes. They somehow broke the matchmaking.Th3Nightmare said:@Tsulan said:
In before "survivors stopped playing because of all the nerfs" posts start.No, The mathmaking has been going bad for a month or so.
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Myers jump scares.
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In before "survivors stopped playing because of all the nerfs" posts start.
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He's weak af.The_Crusader said:
Yeah wasn't singling you out but I don't get this elitist attitude in general.Tsulan said:@The_Crusader said:
Raptorrotas said:@The_Crusader said:
Tsulan said:
@Madjura said:
@Tsulan said: SK92 said: This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weak The fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there You can't use him exactly as any other killer If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly) This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ? Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak They're good in the right hands You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning. You say Freddy is strong in the right hands. I assume you played him to rank 1, yes? Not the same guy but I have, multiple times. Last season after rank reset I got to rank 1 playing exclusively Freddy, without perks or add-ons. If you think Freddy is bad then you are just too incompetent to play him correctly. I was asking the other guy, don´t know why you feel offended and start to insult. Oh btw, i DID reach rank 1 with him, playing him perkless. That's prettt unsportsmanlike bragging like that.
It also seems from the score the rank 9 got tunneled out early which doesn't surprise me.
Then maybe he shouldnt have played with rank 1's?
Sometimes the gane just throws you in like that regardless.
And no, 8k points can still mean tunneled pretty hard.
But still....why are people on here bragging about perkless/add on less freddy? There has been a few. Is this what we have to do to be able to comment on balance issues now? To prove we're "hArdK0r3"?
Not bragging. But @Madjura called me incompetent to play Freddy.
Just because @SK92 claimed Freddy is strong, and i asked him if he reached rank 1 with him.
Good players can do ok with Freddy but it doesn't change the fact that he has glaring weaknesses i.e. can't pick people up if they're being healed, can't hatch/exit gate defend etc
When it comes to videogames sadly the argument always seems to devolve into "git gud".
Calling him strong is a blatant lie. Implying that others just need to gid good, because he's strong in the right hands is simply false.
That's what this whole thing was about. -
Have you seen our youth? Are you kidding?YeetoDorito said:Also legion is meant to be a group of young kids, surely they are able to run fast?
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@The_Crusader said:
Raptorrotas said:@The_Crusader said:
Tsulan said:
@Madjura said:
@Tsulan said: SK92 said: This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weak The fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there You can't use him exactly as any other killer If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly) This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ? Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak They're good in the right hands You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning. You say Freddy is strong in the right hands. I assume you played him to rank 1, yes? Not the same guy but I have, multiple times. Last season after rank reset I got to rank 1 playing exclusively Freddy, without perks or add-ons. If you think Freddy is bad then you are just too incompetent to play him correctly. I was asking the other guy, don´t know why you feel offended and start to insult. Oh btw, i DID reach rank 1 with him, playing him perkless. That's prettt unsportsmanlike bragging like that.
It also seems from the score the rank 9 got tunneled out early which doesn't surprise me.
Then maybe he shouldnt have played with rank 1's?
Sometimes the gane just throws you in like that regardless.
And no, 8k points can still mean tunneled pretty hard.
But still....why are people on here bragging about perkless/add on less freddy? There has been a few. Is this what we have to do to be able to comment on balance issues now? To prove we're "hArdK0r3"?
Not bragging. But @Madjura called me incompetent to play Freddy.
Just because @SK92 claimed Freddy is strong, and i asked him if he reached rank 1 with him. -
@The_Crusader said:
Tsulan said:@Madjura said:
@Tsulan said: SK92 said: This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weak The fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there You can't use him exactly as any other killer If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly) This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ? Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak They're good in the right hands You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning.
You say Freddy is strong in the right hands. I assume you played him to rank 1, yes?
Not the same guy but I have, multiple times. Last season after rank reset I got to rank 1 playing exclusively Freddy, without perks or add-ons. If you think Freddy is bad then you are just too incompetent to play him correctly.
I was asking the other guy, don´t know why you feel offended and start to insult.
Oh btw, i DID reach rank 1 with him, playing him perkless.
That's prettt unsportsmanlike bragging like that.
It also seems from the score the rank 9 got tunneled out early which doesn't surprise me.
8k Points equal 4 unhooks + heal or 3 gens.
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No one said that they should introduce every suggestion. But shrug them all off?Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
Problem is, people told the devs after 2 hours on the PTB what needs to change on the Spirit. Devs laughed over it and told us to play more. Then they slowly introduced the exact changes we asked for from the beginning. It took them months to apply what the community knew from the start. Months....Iceman said:
It is a process. The devs have to see what will work and what will not work. They not just going to put things out there because everybody think it is needed.Star99er said:
She WAS bad, it wasn’t until they gave her multiple buffs after her release that she became one of the better killers. Just like HagGamzello said:Everyone complained that the spirit was trash and now she’s considered high tier by many. This community...lmfao
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@Dreamnomad said:
I actually hope they take their time while tweaking legion. While I think he is currently a little underpowered, I also know that he could quickly be overpowered with only small changes. Having played him a lot over the last few days, I've come to realize he isn't quite as bad as I initially thought.Taking their time, like they currently do with Freddy?
They said, they know that he needs a buff, over a year ago...
Still nothing has been done.If we have to wait over a year, before a killer becomes valid, then there is no point in buying them at release.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Hopefully with dedicated servers, BHVR will start taking action against DCs. At that point, they'll be able to see if it was a legitimate DC or ragequit.I don´t think they´ll see the difference if someone pulls the plug.
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@Madjura said:
@Tsulan said:
SK92 said:This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legion New killer is fine.. not op and not weak
The fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killers
You gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from there
You can't use him exactly as any other killer
If you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly)
This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ?
Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring now
Also same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weak
They're good in the right hands
You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning.You say Freddy is strong in the right hands. I assume you played him to rank 1, yes?
Not the same guy but I have, multiple times. Last season after rank reset I got to rank 1 playing exclusively Freddy, without perks or add-ons. If you think Freddy is bad then you are just too incompetent to play him correctly.
I was asking the other guy, don´t know why you feel offended and start to insult.
Oh btw, i DID reach rank 1 with him, playing him perkless. -
You forgot several buffs the Spirit got.SK92 said:This is really getting much boring .. buff legion buff legion buff legionNew killer is fine.. not op and not weakThe fact that survivors should adapt and change playstyle depending on the killer they're up against, the same here for killersYou gotta know what can this killer do and where's the weaknesses and go from thereYou can't use him exactly as any other killerIf you think this killer is not good for you, simply change killer that you might be good/ skilled with (not everyone can use Nurse or Huntress properly)This killer is really ANNOYING and people want him to have 115% movement speed ? Oh pls .. ez 4k every game ?Look at spirit where people asked for buff and now she's even better than hillbilly with just 110% .. going against decent spirit is really boring nowAlso same for Freddy and Wraith .. they're not weakThey're good in the right hands
Buffs the community asked for from the beginning.
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Oh yeah, rank 20 testers...Redd said:If I remember correctly, one of the devs posted on here that they had extensively tried it with 115% movement speed. They decided it was too easy and too fast to catch a survivor after manually canceling your power right on top of them. I think? they also tried it without the stun and without the Deep Wounds effect too.
I've seen them miss every single skill check.
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Problem is, people told the devs after 2 hours on the PTB what needs to change on the Spirit. Devs laughed over it and told us to play more. Then they slowly introduced the exact changes we asked for from the beginning. It took them months to apply what the community knew from the start. Months....Iceman said:
It is a process. The devs have to see what will work and what will not work. They not just going to put things out there because everybody think it is needed.Star99er said:
She WAS bad, it wasn’t until they gave her multiple buffs after her release that she became one of the better killers. Just like HagGamzello said:Everyone complained that the spirit was trash and now she’s considered high tier by many. This community...lmfao -
Servers won't change the rage quit issue.
People are not afraid, because there is no real punishment. A friend of me rage quit 50% of all matches. Did this for months. No punishment at all. -
That's a killer issue. Expect a solution in 4-6 months.
If it doesn't get solved by then, it will become a feature. -
Of course.Entità said:Why not? But as an alternative mode, not compulsory.
Something along a casual and ranked mode. -
Barely any information.Entità said:
Something like this:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/15899/hardcore-mode#latest
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HUD should show less information. Not more.
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Of course is killer easy, when you only play it on rank 20...stvnhthr said:The game is unbalanced. The average game length is getting shorter. Average survivor bloodpoints are consistently about half of what the killer ends the game with. This is wise from a developer standpoint, but it makes the game very heavily weighed in the killers favor by design. In an evenly balanced game 2 survivors should escape and have scores about equal to the killers. In an evenly balanced game this would be the norm at all ranks. This seldom happens. I main as a survivor but when I need quick bloodpoints I play with an unperked Trapper and usually get 3 to 4 kills without even trying that hard. I don't understand anyone who mains as a killer and complains. It is so easy as a killer and with the new perks it is getting easier all the time.
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Simple solution: keep the counter on hold as long as someone is hooked.Peanits said:@Onionthing said:
It could be as soon as the gates open there is a countdown timer. Fail to leave and the entity eats you anyway. Doesn't count toward blood points but at least you arent stuck for 20 min waiting for survivors to leave.I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but a group that's committed to griefing could leave the gates at 99% and then hide around like normal. Then if you get caught, they just tap it and leave. I'd also be concerned with late game saves. If the timer is too strict, it could punish players for even trying to go for them. Those situations are pretty tense and I've seen them go both extremely successfully and turn into 4Ks.
To give a scenario: Someone is hooked, gates get powered. A survivor goes for the save, waits for an opening, unhooks them with borrowed time. The killer has NOED and instantly downs the rescuer, the other guys runs out. Now the other survivors run around the map looking for NOED, cleanse it, and go in for the save.
That could easily take a couple minutes, so there's a good chance that the timer would cut that off. The obvious move would be to make the timer longer, but if you do that the timer runs the risk of being too long. If it's too long, not much has really changed. If you're stuck sitting around for five minutes waiting for the timer to kick in, you're still not going to be having much fun.
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Yeah, I know. They keep hiding and won't trigger ravens. So after 5 minutes they should spawn nevertheless. Even if they keep moving.BACKSTABBER said:@Tsulan said:
The afk mechanic should start 5 minutes after the gates were powered. Giving the killer a clear indication of where the survivors are.
Hell even if no gens are done and the survivors don't try to repair them for 5 minutes.in my case it is not afkers but trolls
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Unjustified camping happens mainly on low ranks. Not much we can do about that. Survivors already got BT buffed.The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:
Yes, survivors got some small nerfs in the last 6 months. Exhaustion nerf only affected a tiny amount of survivors. Really few people were able to use SB twice during the same chase. But to make up for it, they nerfed Bloodlust a little to hard.ad19970 said:@Tsulan said:
Is this bait?
Because this looks like bait.Solo survivor has never been easier. I really don't understand what you are implying.
Oh and I'd say that we'll see more complaints about camping killers. Just a side effect when you nerf a perk that reduces camping.
Killers need to be the weak role... you want a bully simulator or what?
So I'm definitely the last one to complain about survivors being to hard and killer to easy. I believe this game has improved a lot with the latest patches balance wise. But explain to me how survivor is the easiest it's ever been. Survivors have seen multiple nerfs and killers have seen multiple buffs in the latest patches. Survivor definitely isn't nearly as easy as it was a half a year ago.
Also, complaining about camping is totally fine. Of course complaining about killers who camp isn't fair, since they are just using a valid strategy. Problem is that camping is a valid strategy right now, which isn't good game design. Don't you understand how unfun and boring it is to get camped and just stare at a hook until you die as survivor?
The healing nerf was necessary. Simply because everyone was running SC and no one bothered to heal other survivors. Which made it really hard for solo survivors. Now people start to heal others. At the same time, slugging was nerfed hard and sabotage was buffed. I'm honestly surprised that we don't see more sabotaged hooks.
Why are survivors stronger than ever? Because the devs try to give solo survivors the same information lvl as SWF players have. With all the warning signs. When I started 2 years ago, I had to pay attention. If that survivor was injured or if the killer was using NOED. Now we have a warning sign on every perk that affects survivors. Lullaby warning before it's active, UP gives a warning before survivors hear the heartbeat, etc.
This not only buffs solo players but also SWF.
Most of the killer buffs have been QoL changes to underwhelming killers. Which made them somewhat more viable.
Camping is boring for both sides. We got BBQ to give killers a reason to leave the hook. Now they nerfed that hard and soon we will see way more complaints about camping. BBQ was easy to avoid. But required some action on the survivor side. But now? Just enter a locker.
Killers also get a penalty for staying close to the hook. While nothing was introduced to slow down the gen rush. All 5 gens can be repaired in 3 minutes...
So a chase takes somewhere between 1 and 3 minutes. Then the killer camps because 3 gens popped during that chase and before the hooked survivor dies, the last 2 gens are done. Now with BT buffed, he gets unhooked in the killers face and can escape through the gate. gg ez
The new engine buffed stealth. But nothing has been done to make looping less efficient. That's another unasked buff.
Want me to continue or is this enough?
I agree with you about the last part. Stealth has been buffed with the new engine, but looping hasn't been nerfed. That is a probpem.
However I disagree about your "3 gens pop so killer camps" excuse.
1 or no gens can pop and many killers will still camp. This isn the problem, that unjustified camping is far too common.
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Don't worry. Now that BBQ got nerfed, we'll see more camping killers.
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Uhm, I wish BBQ tokens were as easy to get as WGLF tokens.SpitfireOrMichina said:Now it's a We're Gonna Live Forever for killer too. Thanks devs for this balance. For real, why does survivors have to struggle to get the tokens with We're Gonna Live Forever but killers only have to hook people ones, and + have an aura reading ability
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The afk mechanic should start 5 minutes after the gates were powered. Giving the killer a clear indication of where the survivors are.
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Have you seen the depip squad? Hundreds of matches where they wreck rank 1 killers?CornChip said:All this talk of power role and the killer should be stronger.. Shouldn't the killer> @Tsulan said:
Delfador said:
@Tsulan said:
I mostly play solo. And I would prefer it, if the game was scarier. More jump scares and stealth instead of running in circles. I love to face Myers. For example: yesterday I was playing on the pale rose and through I saw the killer far away, only to turn around and look right into his face. That was fun! Killer should be the power role. Something you should avoid at any cost. Not the kid you can bully.
But since some streamers play to bully, the community adapted to that playstyle.
Does it suck to be on the hook and no one comes? Sure it does. But then I just enter the next game. I don't have to escape every match. But some people take it as a personal offense if they die. Which is just stupid.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/62701#Comment_62701
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/64302#Comment_64302
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/63236#Comment_63236
I don't disagree at all. Here are a couple of my posts from the past.
But saying that solo survivor is easier now than before is just wrong. In the past, before exhaustion nerfs, I didn't care if somebody came for me or not because I could loop a leatherface around the barn with my sprint burst for 4-5 minutes and then leave the match. Note that I have never been a good looper anyway, it was braindead easy because of unmindgameable long ass loops with sprint burst survivors.
The game has never been more difficult for solo survivors. At least not that I know. The game has never been easier for killers than now.
I am not saying that playing the killer is the easiest thing in the world or anything but if you think that playing killer is more difficult now, then it means you either didn't play the game in the past or you don't play the game anymore.
Again I am not saying that playing solo survivor is the most difficult thing in the world or anything but if you think that playing solo survivor is easier now, then it means you either didn't play the game in the past or you don't play the game anymore.
Never claimed that killer is harder. But the game is terribly unbalanced towards survivors. A survivor shouldn't be able to loop a killer for 5 gens. But they are.
You make it sound like survivors are unstoppable gods.. What an absolute bunch of dribble.
