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@zarr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2632506#Comment_2632506
Yeah, the animations seem a little rushed in the trailer, but the models are definitely much better than what ended up in the game. As for why they are different, well, I assume they usually start work on the trailers rather early into the chapter development, so they either work with early models from BHVR, or they have to come up with their own models entirely, merely based on concepts and art from BHVR. Most of the characters in the game's history have looked very different in trailers, with many of them clearly having completely different models altogether. Yui is one of the glaring examples of as much. But part of it could also be that DbD's models just don't look nice enough to be featured in trailers, ha.
For the RE trailer specifically, it's pretty obvious that the artists at Player Two used models from Capcom and tweaked them. Pretty sure Jill, Claire and Leon are almost 1:1 REmake models, for Jill they only really changed the eyes. Not sure how they came up with their Chris. Nemesis does seem to be a mix of the DbD and RE models.
I don't know why they don't just use the models from the trailers for the game, I'm sure they would work in DbD, modders port all kinds of models into DbD all the time that not seldomly do look better than BHVR's character models.
As for where Chris came from, it's the RE5 Chris. At least in game it's RE5 Chris. In the trailer everything except for the face is still RE5. His face looks a lot like RE1 Chris.
And yeah I don't get it. I've actually mentioned this in the past in various places that why can't they just use the trailer models? Like modders like you said can port stuff all the time with no problems. Even the real models they port over actually look really good and fit fine.
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@Phasmamain said:
I never thought I’d see the day where we are comparing a mutilated face made of pixels
I like being original sometimes.
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@zarr said:
DbD's Nemesis falls a little more on the human side of zombie soldier than REmake Nemesis, what with the slightly more defined facial features, eye area, and the eye itself having an iris of sorts rather than being completely white.
I like DbD's version well enough, and some aspects of it even more than REmake's, he looks cool. Although I think one kinda notable difference in "visual personality" between them is that DbD's seems a little more like an angry zombified human, whereas RE's Nemesis feels more like humanity merely glimpsing through a zombie shell, there's but a vague intelligence in those white eyes, and the "angry" and menacing appearance of his design seems more to be just a condition of him being a super-zombie, rather than an expression of human emotion. I think what most of all makes for that difference though is that RE-Nemesis' eye never conveys much emotion, whereas the more defined eye of DbD-Nemesis does. But that's of course not saying either of the two makes for a better design, both the idea of a human with a zombie soldier body as a weapon and lots of rage as well as that of a zombie soldier weapon with the barest amount of human intelligence embedded to bring that weapon to its purpose are plenty scary. Albeit the latter does fit in more with the original design philosophy behind Nemesis.
Either way, I think the model they made for the trailer is a cool hybrid of RE and DbD Nemesis. I'm pretty sure the artists behind the trailer did actually use a (perhaps early) version of DbD's model as a base and added some touches and details to it, such as crooked teeth and different eyes, some of which taken from the RE model.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/J8KA6WWHIC38/nemesis-trailer2.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/PUYE2LH5WTTU/nemesis-trailer-model2.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/GZ0ITB4OSTXD/nemesis-trailer-model3.jpg
They did really fine work on the trailer, would love to have that model in the game too.
Yeah I gotta say the trailer models for not only him but the other characters were actually very, VERY well done. Especially the survivors. They all looked PERFECT. The only problem I had with the trailer is that all the characters animations were pretty bad. But Nemesis actually looked pretty sweet. The jaw I mentioned to someone else here, this is how it should look. If they wanted to be more accurate that it. I wonder why they had to make completely separate models for the game itself. Honestly I'll just take these models any day because the trailer models were absolutely phenomenal.
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@Superyoshiegg said:
Field of view options maybe, but the chasd music is integral to the balance and shouldn't be allowed to be disabled.
That's the same case with a lot of games yet they still include the settings.
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"I'm on my way!"
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2631663#Comment_2631663
I think they mean infinite darkness, the RE netflix show
Yeah he showed the picture. I remember the show. Watched it all on the first day. I didn't really care for its Tyrant though.
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@GuyFawx said:
This is what i was talking about mind you its from the show not a game still is a tyrant tho
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/DLZ6YL36WCZW/urizen.jpg
Ehhh. He looks too... Human... If you get what I mean. Obviously not human but he has a clear face that isn't distorted and he can talk and basically has his human mind.
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@Altarf said:
I still think the squished nose, piano key teeth and cartoonishly pulled skin on the remake design ruins it.
OG Nemesis looked like an actual intelligent bioweapon - dangerous, cunning, much more humanoid than other T-Virus mutants. The stitch on his eye, the general smoothness of the skin like he was lab-grown, the uniform leather coat and teeth bared in a snarl. He could even express emotion. Remake Nemesis looks like a regular tyrant wrapped in a garage bag, given twenty packs of steroids and smacked in the face with a sledgehammer.
He gives off much more of a "dumb brute" feeling with his general design and gameplay in the remake compared to the original, where Nemesis was a terminator-like intelligent pursuer; who would set up ambushes at random points and overwhelm Jill with tactics and complicated weaponry rather than "brute force unga bunga punch punch punch on sight". Although that's more a problem with the remake than Nemesis himself, with how it turned Nemesis into Super Mr. X rather than retaining the original uniqueness of Nemesis. Pretty much all of Nemesis' "cool" moments in the remake are scripted near-cutscenes where he screams and mindlessly chases Jill. His gimmick was meant to be intelligence, adaptability and survivability - not the Hulk who uses a rocket launcher like, one time in the entire game.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/U9KP0PBFVP7U/maxresdefault-286-29.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/KAHUGQ3ZSL3F/103056.jpg
I don't mind the new face. Although I saw some concepts that I think is a cool and actually creepy middle point. Like these. I actually like how the one in the middle looks.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2631551#Comment_2631551
Thx.
i gotta agree with the already mentioned piano teeth on the DbD version, not so nice. Otherwise both version look good imo. I guess in-game RE version will look better because… well DbD is DbD.
On the teeth, yeah they look goofy but I think the long teeth probably look way better than if he had more human teeth with this specific version of Nemesis.
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@GuyFawx said:
They should give nemesis the tyrant look thats in Into darkness i almost like it better. His design is a little more streamlined in dbd to probably account for them using a lower grade engine.
What?
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@Mooks said:
Could add screenshots from both games so people who haven’t played or paid too much attention can directly compare?
Thanks. Just did it.
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My brain meats seem to be working today.
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@eric_alrasid17 said:
I mean, the announcement ST leaving is already launched since august 2021.
So where the hell have you been this all time?
It's been 3 months since the announcement and u can't afford to at least--- saving your money??
I had other things I needed to buy first. Games that also mean a lot and have more value and even some cosmetics that I told myself I had to get day 1 so I saved money for those specific things. And it isn't easy. With the amount I spent on other things I'd STILL have some things missing making it feel pointless. The main things I did buy in case I can't get it all is Jonathan because he is a different character and the sweaters since I had cells left over.
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@GannTM said:
Sluzzy and TheDarkTyrant are the only two forum members I can accurately predict them as the OP correctly just by reading the title.
Does OP mean Original Poster? I just kinda guessed that now since I've seen it used a lot and original poster fits the sentence people use it in. Anyways I see it as a good thing. It's fun.
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@JPA said:
I think his teeth look kinda stupid in DBD, every time I look at them all I can think of is piano keys because of how long they are
I like his jaw more in RE3R. The chin area gets pretty wide.
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@Jasix said:
Do you hear yourself??
I want it so give it to me free.
I want a new Jeep.. I know other people can afford them, but I can't and I really want the 2021 version which is going away so Jeep should just send me one for free.
I can afford ground beef, but I really want ribeye steak and that guy just bought the second to last one so I should get the last one for free!
Seriously??
The entitlement in your post is astounding. I don't care if you collect DLCs and that is your passion. If it is something you really enjoy doing - then do it according to your financial means. Sometimes we do not get what we want in life... get used to it. It has been widely known that these DLCs were going away for months - if it was TRULY that important you would have bought them since you state you have bought soo many other DLCs. Sometimes in life we cannot afford the shiny things we want - that is reality.
I don't get why you people keep twisting my post into something it's not. You're basically just mocking someone for asking. Stop being a numb skull and look at the post and stop skimming through them if that's what you're doing.
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@Myla said:
Funny people kept saying these stuff two years ago and the game got more players since then.
Well this is 2 years later. A long time. People are getting sick of it. I see it more and more every month people quitting.
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@Volcz said:
I laughed pretty hard at this with my coffee in hand. Thank you.
$10 is not a lot and if it means that much to you, to the point of making a thread asking for a giveaway, you will buy it like everyone else. Otherwise accept you will never have it and move on. There won't be a giveaway.
Around $10 for each skin is around $120. That sure seems like a lot.
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@ChurchofPig said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629008#Comment_2629008
And it's not even $10 right now, it's $5 because of the sale until they leave.
It's still $10 I HAVE to spend on 1. $5 is only 500 cells and they 600. Still basically $10 that I have to spend.
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@katoptris said:
Tell Santa to buy it for you
Santa doesn't roll around until the 25th next month.
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@Lycidas said:
"I want this"
"Well ok, it's on sale, you can buy it at 50% right now"
"I don't have the money, give it to me for free"
"..why would I do that?"
"Because I want it but I don't have the money to pay for it"
"Sir, this is not a charity"
I mean..the fact that YOU want it but YOU don't have the money for it sounds like a "you" problem, given that it is completely optional content
I never said it wasn't a me problem. But I can ask right? Right? I mean it's better to as than just sit there and wonder what would happen if I didn't. It's like a party. It's better to go and not have fun than have this awful feeling just sitting there wondering if you would've had fun if you did go.
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@Clowning said:
I'll buy you the chapter on Steam, if you can go two months without complaining or making any threads about Nemesis.
I have the chapter. And I'm on PS5.
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@TunnelVision said:
What a weird way to look at things. 'I don't have money, give me free.'
That's not how the world works i'm afraid.
That's why I asked. I didn't demand it.
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@Myla said:
Lmao this is the most bizarre post I have ever seen. I thought this dude was talking about getting the DLC it self and turns out he spent all his money on cosmetics.... Yeah you don't get anything free lol
Well I can't buy the DLC twice. I bought that a long time ago.
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@MedicSpirit7 said:
It’s literally $10
It's $120
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@Rogue11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629357#Comment_2629357
Yea I haven't purchased cosmetics since the RE chapter. I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I was so sure they would want to do right by the license and not leave her in such a terrible state. 5 months later and not even a simple acknowledgement of "yes we know and we'll fix her at some point"
That chapter was such a huge letdown. Their biggest and easiest license to get right is the one they get so horribly wrong. Even Nightmare on Elm Street was better at launch. Maybe not now. But comparing them at launch Nightmare on Elm Street was super fun. It feels like Resident Evil died on it's first day in the PTB. Or the first day of it's full launch.
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@GenJockeyNance said:
Wait, they changed Chris? Does anyone have a snapshot I could see since I can't access the ptb?
It's not from the PTB. It was a while ago. I'm just now talking about it.
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He was the reason I started.
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@Maperson said:
Still too strong, he can get a hit on you, and in an instant he is behind you with his x movement speed downing you, and if he doesn't down you he has his great antiloop, it's too strong imo
That's why I said have some decent anti loop. So he would have some but probably not as strong as it is now. He can have both. I mean Blight does and he ain't op.
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@ohheyitsbobcat said:
I like both
Come out with your hands up
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@Maperson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629302#Comment_2629302
But having sprit with this loop potential is really strong. As his mobility, it would need to be like Oni's
I would say make it a middle ground between Oni and Legion. Like make Nemesis able to go backwards but its not instant. It takes a second to slow down and go backwards.
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@Maperson said:
I get what you are trying to say but having his sprint ability who he can freely control is overpowered, plus he has good antiloop, but i agree that he need buffs
Well it's only overpowered when you look at it that way. But if it did eventually come into DBD as a rework of sorts it wouldn't be. They'd obviously put a cooldown for a cooldown and make it control weird or something.
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@Nathan13 said:
Everyone who bought the content would have to be refunded than.
Nope.
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@2bitfeller said:
Zombies are supposed to fill that role. They just need to be fixed or maybe buffed a bit. Run discordance or splody gen builds to get more use out of them
The zombies aren't the correct way to do it though. The zombies just have nothing to do with Nemesis. He needs a power that he can fully control is what I mean.
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Well you gotta expect certain things from licensed killers. Nemesis being a good chaser and complaining about it is like complaining that Michael is a stalking killer. It's kinda hard to really talk about those because that's probably what people expected from them. That is how some should be. Not Nemesis though. He should be a good chaser but it was executed in the wrong way.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Why should they?
They still created the DLC, they still bought the licensing rights to the DLC, they are still are a business. There is a sale window and it has been like a 3 months notice. People have had their chance to buy it. If you cannot afford it then im sorry but this goes for everything in life.
Well if ya don't ask you'll never know right?
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@Shaped said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629110#Comment_2629110
Do you really have to own everything?
My suggestion, if you don't own any st skins get one you really like and plan to use.
If you don't get anything just accept it and find something else. Plenty of skins and characters in the game to choose from. Also you can use shards to buy some neat stuff, although grind is real.
Move on man, it's called life. I learned that as a kid in war torn country where even simple toys I wanted at the time were out of my reach.
No. But I want to because it actually means something to someone like me. I've been collecting a long time. I'm still trying to get things I haven't been able to get back then.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629092#Comment_2629092
I don't see the issue then.
You already have the characters, the cosmetics are just an additional bonus. The devs can't just decide to give things away for free because "I'm [you're] a collector." If everyone did this the devs would make no money and we'd have no game in which to collect things loll
Yeah the skins are just bonus to you. Not me.
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@themoobs1984 said:
I'm with you man. I have to choose between medication or the dlc. I choose the medicine obviously. It sucks not being able to afford them rn when they are about to be gone forever.
Let's hope they are able to. It would be greatly appreciated.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629102#Comment_2629102
"The only way to possibly get it"
Other than paying for it, of course
Yeah if I don't want to eat.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629096#Comment_2629096
Well funnily enough those things will end up having more value than anything digital you collect. When this game dies in 5-10 years and the servers are turned off, your "collection" gets erased off a drive somewhere
I'm a collector that buys things for myself. I have plenty things of value. But I don't want to ever sell them. I don't see the point in collecting to then just removing it all. I collect to just collect. That's it. I want these skins and this is probably the only way to possibly get it.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629092#Comment_2629092
Maybe collect things which are cheaper
Sure I'll just go out there and buy little crappy eggs with squishy toys in the.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629030#Comment_2629030
Yeah sorry but I don't get this at all. Spending money on ALL the licensed skins just seems so wasteful to me. You can't even use them all at the same time so is there really a point in buying them ALL? Why not just get your favourite or something.
Like I said I want to collect them all. I'm a collector. Plus, I already got all my favorite licensed content.
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@dugman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629012#Comment_2629012
While I agree they don't need to give Stranger Things content away, I don't think it has anything to do with "fairness" to the people who previously bought it. Just because I bought something a while ago doesn't mean it's somehow unfair for someone else to get it in a giveaway months or years later. Me paying for access to something isn't me paying to ensure nobody else ever gets it for free in the future. If I pay money to see a movie in the theater, I don't think it's unfair for other people to see it for free on television down the road, and I wouldn't go looking for a refund of my ticket price now knowing that I could have waited a long time and maybe seen it for free.
I do agree though that it's a shame they're losing the license, I thought they did some good work with that IP. And it's all so Netflix can push a Stranger Things video game on its new kind of meh-sounding mobile video game platform.
I still doubt it's because of the mobile game. There is probably a bigger game in development. Possibly that cancelled Telltale game.
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@ReikoMori said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629012#Comment_2629012
I will never understand this logic. Just because we paid for something to have it earlier doesn't mean that it isn't fair just because someone gets it for free later. I've gotten tons of chapters for free and watched other people get chapters I've paid money to have early for free. It doesn't matter how someone else got the thing because I still have the thing as well. In this situation where said chapter is being vaulted I don't see why giving it away would harm anyone who bought it. You were already going to spend the money on it at the time and unless you knew that in the future the chapter was gonna be gone you've not lost anything.
Yeah I don't think many would really say "That's unfair" if they did end up doing it. Sure there will be some but those people will get over it. They won't hang on it for 6 years. I mean it shouldn't bother them. All it does is allow everyone to use the skin. I don't think they'd be worried if anyone that isn't them could use the skins.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629025#Comment_2629025
Why would you even want $120 worth of in-game cosmetics?
Because it's licensed content that is going away forever that I want to get. I've spent so much time collecting most licensed stuff aside from the skins but I'm eventually gonna get them. Like I did the entire Left 4 Dead rift for the reason of it is licensed and I'm gonna do the same for Saw. But Stranger Things is leaving and if I can't even pay for it then there is nothing I can do than ask for something.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629016#Comment_2629016
I feel for you but you can't just get something for free that everyone else had to pay for just because you don't have the money for it right now.
Yeah, I payed for it to. I spent plenty of money already. And I still need to spend $120 to get the rest of it. So far I've spent $12 on the chapter $15 on Jonathan and $5 on the sweaters. $32 on just Stranger Things. I feel like that's a lot. At least for me. I can't just go spend an extra $120.
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@Rey_512 said:
Dude, it’s like $10. If you can’t afford that, it frankly isn’t BHVR’s problem.
Besides, it’s a LICENSED chapter which means they aren’t allowed to give it out for free unless specifically allowed by Netflix per their agreement (spoiler alert, they won’t).
$10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 + $10 = $120
I do not have the money to spend on that. Same with a lot of people out there. $10 is a lot.
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@Shaped said:
Oof.
I understand your point but what about people who payed for it?
I am thinking myself if I should get something for my nancy or not.
I payed for the stuff too. Not all of it though. Those people had the money while I just don't. If they had the money for that then they'll probably be fine.
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I mean it doesn't surprise me if the devs will go through with gutting her if they can gut and squash Nemesis with ease.