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@[Deleted User] said:
I also have another question. Are you going to remove miss penalty? It's so unnecessary, nobody misses in Feral Frenzy. I can show you a clip where autoaim has aimed for me and missed. It didn't affect me that much because i had already lost the game, but imagine if this happens and Legion suddenly loses all pressure because of a random lag/autoaim error
That together with the slower vault speed and the slower frenzy speed, is the greatest fun killer on the Legion imo. Also, since deep wounds has its own drawbacks, those things could be undone.
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Finally a answer, I really appreciate that. I have understand the background of the frenzy speed nerf and also the duration buff, now the Legion comes less in situations where she almost "needs" to tunnel someone, but still...
The whole rework makes no fun for people that have either love the archetyp of a fast moving killer and/or had enogh of the m1 killers.
Of course, as a non-exploiting and non-using addons Legion I have love the pre patch Legion, because she was exactly that: The fast stabbing archtype killer and all we want to have back is this feeling.
It is hard to get this feeling, when you see survivors running away for you, or you have to struggle with a feeled thousand drawbacks. The feeling of beeing fast and maybe dangerous comes there not up anymore.
We would like to see a rework of the Legion with lesser drawbacks and so that she feels fast again. Also drawbacks are a more and more uncommon "balance tool" if we look at other games in the industry (because.. welll they make no fun for the players).
I think you could undone parts of the rework without annoying someone - besides the pure haters - because the Legion was never one of the uber red ranks killers. If necessary, just make the green addons+ weak (so also the purple/red) and of course, don't undone the exploits :).
Exploiters belong to be on a cross, how the Legion in a other game would say...
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I hope by every opportunity for news to the Legion until I read, or heard from them something I an accept is everything other for me just white noise.
So its ok for me if they stay silent. Maybe they coming up at the end with something the people in this forums have ask for.
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Without reading now the the pages long after your first posting @Luune , I would have like to play against survivors as your swf group.
I was a Legion main until I had stop playing with the Legion patch. But I had never facemap, besides 2 times where I was in a bad mood and also survivors had try to annoy me with flashlights.
My endgame chat was also mostly ok-nice, besides a few weirdos.
Don't give up, I am sure sooner or later you will also meet a killer who doesn't need to facecamp and who knows? Should bhvr rework the Legion so that this killer makes finally fun again, I come back again and we can maybe make a match^^.
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That is something what should be assumed by that, but maybe we need to make another 270+ threads before we get a posting from the devs to that. The future will show.
Imo, it would be funny to see the Legion tag for the Devstream tag :D.
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Not all survivors are whiny and toxic people.
Actual it is a minority, but a very vocal one. To the time where the Legion got nerfed - if you had look at the names of the nerf cryers - they were always the same (mostly).
Same as today. The people who still defend the changes to the Legion are always the same.
We need to be so vocal like those guys, at least at the same level. To many people just show their opinions in the endgame chat, or in other communitys.
For the greater good of this game, we need to remind the devs, that there also other people.
Like actual killers and survivors who like to have a challenge.
So, I hope that the devs change nothing on the nurse (even I have also read the rumors that there a nerf is coming) and undone the Legion rework.
Either they doing that, or they will be stuck at someday with those nerf cryers and that means, they will be stuck with people who are mostly toxic and dc to every opportunity and for every reason they claim for themself.
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@ClogWench said:
Ignore the people giving you a hard time for wanting to buy Legion. You can get him with iridescent shards. Could take a little while to save up (could be wrong but I think it's around 9k shards for a killer) so it could take a few weeks of regular play.
You don't know how many people I have already read that regret their purchase of the Legion, especially new players that had as only information source the 2 Legion dlc videos on YouTube.
By Meyers, Spirit, or Hag he can make nothing wrong, since their advertisement videos are accurate, far as I remember.
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What the Legion matters, so I can only give you the advice to read about the Legion in this forums, before you buy this dlc. So that you actually know what you will buy, since the Legion advertisment shows a different picture to what is reality.
Imo, the Spirit, Hag, or Meyers would be a better alternative.
Besides that, you can buy every killer with a ingame currency - if they are not licensed (what means, that you still have to by with real world money Meyers, Pig and I believe also Ghostface [correct me someone if I am wrong with the last one]).
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@Horror_Gaming said:
Even as survivor his ability doesn’t scare me. Usually you get hit then he runs off and you just mend away. How is that something to fear as a survivor. His feral frenzy honestly feels like a knock off built in borrowed time
As I had play the Legion pre patch times, some survivors have sometimes thank me for a challenging game. I would not like to read what those survivors would write today^^.
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Even with that point of view in mind, it would make no sense to not complain about the status of the Legion in the game, becaue even if we see it on this way, the Legion is a step that has to be gone.
On problem after another.
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My name is Legion: for we are many. Reminds me on a old action movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger :).
God knows, they don't making such great movies anymore.
I would be already happy if the devs adressing that there is an issue.
Developing needs time and the way to accept that you have acted wrong needs also sometimes its fair share of time.
So devs... Just give us a word^^.
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Have the devs actual a vision how to bring the "fun element" back for Legion players (for which it would be necessary to make the Legion faster again and deleting some drawbacks since drawbacks are no fun at all imo) and how to make her unique again (so not just another m1 killer)?
Sorry if I post this question in the wrong place. I just wanted to use this opportunity to throw a question in, on what a lot of people waiting for.
How ever. Have a nice evening@all.
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@Odimm said:
Unfortunately I was one of those "new guys" who bought the dlc. In fact this is the only dlc I bought so far. Legions design & ability sold it for me - too bad I didn't look up the forums first. The devs "fix" for Legion was extreme and quite disappointing to say the least.
I also love the proposed changes in this thread to get him back on track. Especially what @GrootDude said:
Shorten his cooldown
Old vault speed back
Make DW bar go down while doing a gen.
Lets hope something changes in the near future but looking at other killers that need a "hotfix" I doubt it.
You are not alone, I have also read something similar from other people in the steam dbd forums, before I have left those forums and switch to the official ones. Don't like to know how many people now out there and have left dbd forever, because of this first impression.
But, multiplayer games have always their up and downs. We can hope that they make it undone. Sure... it will take time. Devs usually don't like doing this, not important about which game we are talking here, but in the end - many do it after they have listen to their community.
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Imo, they should not advertise the Legion, until the rework is undone.
If a new guy buys* this dlc, he will most likley be disappointed and more important he will not write it here in the forums.
Some poeple maybe think now "thank god" to that, but imo its important to know why people are disappointed. Its the only way for doing better, -next time.
*Of course that doesn't count for people that are acutal playing dbd. They know what they will get, but new players don't. They think, they get that fast and agile killer from the video and not that teen with grandma-speed what the Legion is in the current game.
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@Gardenia said:
I've noticed alot of people saying he's "fine" are really just scared he'll be what he once was, yes he wasn't good for the health of the game. But ignoring the fact that he's needs improvements by saying he's fine does more harm than good.
I'm sure all of us unanimously agrees Legion is not fine. Just admit it, he doesn't have to be gamebreaking like he once was but he sure isn't in a good state now regarding fun and originality. We're not about to let him stay this way.
They gutted his unique powers and left him with something so bland, the add-ons are rushed and seem to be after thoughts. And people are saying he's fine....sorry but no he's not. In what world does an add-on of 60s broken status benefit you with Legion if you DW them twice and incur the stun?
I guess this people just perfer m1 killers in general and there is the new Legion maybe a nice addition for them, or they had never feel the intoxication, how the chase with the pre patch Legion was.
1 day you drive with a nascar and over night they give you a Fiat Panda. That is not fine for me^^.
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@Ember_Hunter said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/548484#Comment_548484
Yep, make Legion powerful and not toxic! But let's see with Ghostface...
Well. I wouldn't think to highly of Ghostface.
What has happened to the Legion can happen to every other killer also, until the devs make it clear that they not listen anymore to the hater minority.
When they have one day finally fix the Legion and undone the rework, I will maybe then take a look at Ghostface, if he is then not nerfed like the Legion before to that time.
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Hopefully that will one day happen. It would clearly shown that they care for their playerbase and not just for that vocal hater minority from before.
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Well, there we have different opinions, but that is ok.
The todays Legion is nothing for me, but that doesn't mean, that other people can't be happy with them.
I for my part would only accept the new Legion, if she would provides me with the same old fun moments, as the pre patch Legion had did it (at least that).
Besides I had love to play something different as the usual m1 killer and it is a pity imo, that nobody anymore takes the Legion perks. The most Legions today use perks that support m1 playstyle and that is sad imo. It shows clearly for me, that the Legion is dead at the moment as I have understand the Legion.
I for my part like to see that Legion is something special. That she is different to other killers. To see how people that are still playing the game, are forced to play the Legion with m1 perks gives me a bitter taste.
But that are probally just thoughts of a pre patch Legion like me. Don't think that is something new Legions are worried about. Bet they are more annoyed by the feeled 1k drawbacks, the abilitys of the Legion have.
Imagine a hag, meyers, trapper, or billy with the same level of drawbacks. Wouldn't be a nice picture, imo.
Edit: @cbocbo
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Well, I would have love to see you then, playing the Legion without the powerful purple addons.
You must be rank 1 immediately!
If you were not so biased for one site, you would maybe see, that the killer learning curve for every killer is pretty similar. That is good, imo, but don't come with this skill argument please.
Its hard for me to say it on the polite way, but hopefully I will be able to it:
A game with literally 2 abillitys and then behaving like a pro gamer - throwing words out like "they have no skill"... Well... That lets me chuckle a bit...
Many players have enjoy the pre patch Legion. Killers like survivors. That's what matters and not that crappy skill talk.
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But you miss the point that the Legion should not be a m1 killer.
Pre patch, his ability was good enough, to be not like that.
Besides, you think you hit everytime with a hit? Yes? How many would you bet on this?
I would take the bet and then let you play against a few lagging surivors :).
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He is just a troll I bet and doesn't know it better Chaotic.
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Imo, just use m1 attacks. Frenzy has to many drawbacks.
Of course, that lets come the question up, why someone should play the Legion although there are better m1 alternatives in the game...
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@SmokePotion said:
it isn't really slow. it just feels it.
The old legion went from one of the slowest killers in the game, to one of the fastest. By pushing a button. It felt fast. it felt good.
The new legions speed is only a little slower then his old max, and lasts longer, so it lets him actually use his power to move around the map some. He's actually stronger then he was.
He just doesn't feel as fun. Because old legion felt FAST.
Well I would bet my right hand on that the old Legion could run faster from one end of the map, to the other, as the new one.
For 2 reasons:
-Pre patch Legion frenzy was faster.
-Pre patch Legion had more freedom in the use of frenzy. The pre patch Legion could use more often frenzy as the new one.
Imo, the changes to the frenzy speed of the Legion is one more point where you get the feeling that the devs have overreact by making the patch.
This change was not necessary, after they had already nerfed deep wounds into uselessness and give the Legion a bigger terror radius and also all the other changes on frenzy (like that freaking unfun stun).
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Well. You have my respect for staying so long with the new Legion. I had already enough after the first match with the new Legion.
The only reason why I had make a few matches more is, because I wanted my vengeance on this nerf crying survs and I had my vengeance thanks to a stack full of moris :).
It had its advantages, to use mostly no addons and sacrifices until the patch day sinister smiling...
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@Darkskies said:
Also justice for suzie still being traumatised by her sounding like frank!! Its just making things more weird for me 🐷❤️
I really need to bite me here on my tongue to not make fun now about this :D. God knows, you are invaded by sjw's as soon as you do it :|.
I would feel really depressed, if I would play the Legion today, with in mind what has gone lost, but on the other hand I can be lucky... Don't like to know how a guy feels that buys the Legion because of the advertisment videos on youtube, or steam and then meets the reality.
A honest advertisement would be:
"The new killer is called "The Legion".
The raw cravings and impulses of adolescence are incredibly powerful.
You will be able to vault slower as every Survivor, including Jane (yes also her). Missing hits will stun you and as a third ability - look how even that drunken Ace Visconti runs away for you!
When teens get involved with an impulsive mastermind everything can happen!"
Poor newbie Legion's^^ :|
But, I let a link here to a offical Legion trailer, just so that we can remember the good old times:
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The only way to fix this issue, would be to take that stupid stun out, because there are way too many reasons why a lag can happen (internet in general, user sided and dbd sided when the dedicated servers come out).
It would be a good way to take them out anyways, because drawbacks are no fun (surprise, surprise, who had thought this?).
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Sad times where nobody likes to use the Legion perks anymore. Even it is understandable after the patch.
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@Chaotic_Riddle said:
@AshleyWB Still, they shouldn’t just forget about them. They’re just as important as any other Killer is to the game. A lot of players loved Legion for their design, lore, and their concept, but now it just feels like maybe they really ARE trying to forget about them. That shouldn’t be the case... :(
+1
As I had first read the Legion patch notes, I had thought, that must be some sort of late april fools joke (You know... How Blizzard it sometimes does, with "we will let your warrior throw fireballs, all your progress will be deleted..." This sort of stuff...).
But what should I say? It wasn't as we all know now :(.
Damn, I miss the old Legion :|.
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@ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG said:
They will give legion buffs after they give freddy buffs from when they nerfed him. The cycle continues
Hopefully this is true and hopefully they are with the Legion a bit faster^^.
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@citron said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/544635#Comment_544635
is it only with 2? I was playing with 1 and survivors were bitching so i stopped using them altogether
It was only with 2.
Not that I had trouble with that, because I had mostly use no addons, because for me a default pre patch Legion had make the most fun.
So you either got fooled or they didn't knew it better :) .
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Imo, the only thing they need to do, is to make the rework undone and then the Legion would be great again.
But please bhvr... Fix the exploits of the Legion first before you doing that.
I don't like to be in heaven again, just to fall down straight into hell a few weeks later, because tons of people would then writing nerf threads towards the Legion because of those exploits.
As example: You could grey out 1 knife, if a Legion trys to choose both knifes in the addon screen. That would be a exploit fix, without hurting the Legion.
Simple and efficient.
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@Laakeri said:
Its basics of economy, supply and demand.
DbD is only game in its genre so there is demand and they can decide how much they supply as people will buy anyway.
Sorry, but that is wrong.
I don't know the name, but it exists also a similar game, but the drawback on this game I thinking is, that it is epic games exclusiv.
And I don't have, or plan to get a epic games account. I have seen it just a few times by a YouTube lets play canal.
Also, their is a nice game on steam with the name "contagion". I have it not play in the last 1-2 years, but far as I remember, it has been ok and was a "Zombie against Survivors game", instead a "killer against survivors game".
But people who like to try now out Contagion - be warned: That is a real horror game. If you stay there to long on one point, you will be a Zombie soon. So no time for bulling the Killer, rhm Zombie King there. Because he is a real killer^^.
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/542499#Comment_542499
You're right, but hed have to be high tier to begin with, the only reason he is up there rn is because survivors refuse to learn exactly how to counter him
Reminds me almost on the Legion.
From time to time, you had read on the forums "no counterplay!!!1111"... Just to meet in your next match survivors who know how to counterplay.
Some survivors are just lazy. Sadly they are also the loudest. The good ones are mostly silent and only post sometimes something, just to be getting attacked then by the lazy ones :|.
After my experience, the new Legion is no fun to play. If the Legion is fun to play against, I can't say, because I stopped playing the game after a few matches with the new Legion.
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It is easy to think that, or also to hate survivors in dbd, but I call that the Legion effect.
Just to explain that: A survivor had seen a exploiting pre patch Legion and was so angered by him, that he had forget about him, all the fair playing Legion's that he had meet until this day and ignores the good ones, he had meet after this day.
This situation with the survivors is pretty much the same.
You meet the toxic ones and start only to think on them, but this is wrong imo.
I had meet many friendly and fair playing survivors in dbd and I was one of the "evil" pre patch Legion mains. So if we go after what some people believe, I should have only meet toxic survivor, but that was not the case.
TL:DR: The art is, to not forget the friendly ones. Forget instead the toxic ones^^. That also annoys those little kids more as anything other.
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Everybody can see, that you have really think before you have make this thread.
I think the most things could work, but for me as a former Legion main, the fight is only over after we got back what a few angry kids have taken from us, via nerf threads.
I just hope, that at this time, the devs have fix the Legion exploits and also every single purple Legion addon should be lowered in his usefulness, so that the people finaly are forced to look at the real Legion and not some pimped up guy^^.
Also I would lower the bp costs for survivor rar and very rar addons, but increase them for killers.
I know that sounds first one sided, but I write my words also with possible nerf threads in mind and imo, it is the best, to take the air out of the wings from that nerf cryers, before they really can start to damage a killer, how they have did it in the past at mulitple times.
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@SunderMun said:
They won't ban anyone if they haven't notified both in the forum and in-game; they didn't for the Pinky Finger, and no one got banned for it, although I think most people respected it when they found out/when they used it only attacked when it would be a legit earned instadown since it's a skill anyway.
So far it's only happened with Legion in the time that I've played, and there were very clear warnings in-game.
Had I miss something to that time?
I just remember a ingame-news pop up that had inform the players of the exploit and that players who use this exploit will be banned. Also there was a warning message here in the dbd forums for a week or so...
That is not much. Imo, the most dbd players reading not the forums (otherwise the traffic in this forums would be much higher). With that in mind, the Legion players to that time had only 1 newsmessage in the game, that had told them from the exploit.
That is not much imo and easy to miss.
When I looking back, I was really lucky to play the Legion without addons at those days, if I think how easy it was to "exploit".
I mean... In other games you need for that some third party-programms, or some sort of console command, if a console exist in those games... Here was it enough to choose 2 free avaible addons.
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@DevourOfSalt said:
If they listen at all we wouldn't be in such a mess, the problem is they refuse to listen no matter what unless there such big up roar, even then in one ear out the other just look at the plague n GF during there PTB they were greeted with positive feedback (besides GF 1st PTB) from both survivor players n killers, yet what do the devs do dont give to shits how much positive feedback they got they nerf the plague, GF nerf still coming even tho 88% positive. then all the broken bugs that make game unplayable cause exploits ruining any fun is insane
I hope for positive feedback to the Legion, Plague and Pig from the devs. Aka. that they are willing to make changes to them Hopefully soon, even I am not sure.
For Ghostface is it probably to early.
In the meantime I invite Ghostface on our Legion partys. We are nerfed and Ghostface will maybe be nerfed soon, but we still make the best damn partys in the world of dbd - you can bet :).
Should this nerf crying kids in the meantime think that they are good because they won a match against a nerfed killer - we will come back and then in full force to teach them a lesson!^^.
Never stop to fight the good fight.
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@MrsPiggyIsSoSneaky said:
And this is why most things in this game don't get fixed, balance, or listen upon, we're being too nice to them...
Well... It is important to name the things that running wrong in the game. No question here. I do that all the time.
But sometimes it is also ok, to say something nice and I am not a blind fanboy. Infact I even actual don't play the game because of a patch, the devs have make in the past.
Things just need sometimes time.
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Your ideas are like a dream come true @bubbascal . If I could play the pre patch Legion one day more and with those changes, I would be a happy Legion again^^.
But we need also to have the toxic streamers in mind, who have encourage their audience to bully, dc and invade the dbd forums with nerf threads towards the Legion.
Because of them, the Legion should not made too strong again with a new rework. Otherwise, the devs listen to those guys maybe again and we can start again, to fight the good fight (yeah that was a reference to Three Dog :)).
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I see it exactly like Peanits. People who are still complain, are also still intersted in the game, so also me.
But... what responses matters have I actual not read that much. Sometimes I wait for seeing my Avatar jailed, so that I know that at least they had finaly read a posting :). Would be a silent response, but... also a response.
Besides that, negative feedback is the only one you can grow with. That said... I am always one of the first ones who says "thank you" then finaly things change.
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@Laakeri
That's why I don't understand that the devs have listen to the raging streamers about the Legion.
To be against something is ok, buuut, to be against something while you are in general toxic because of your behavior, or dcing, is nothing what should be supported. Even not for a second.
It only makes everything worse how we even can see today in the game, if I can trust the official and steam forums.
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@Gardenia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/539433#Comment_539433
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I've played him since PTB as well. He's not fun to play for me anymore personally, simply because his power lacks lethality and it's also contradictive to his "rush down". Part of the addiction to playing legion for me was using FF fast in chase, the Parkour vaulting and freedom of mobility, to catch up to a survivor while in chase, coupled with some lethality that made you feel a sense of power. I'm not saying running Frank's mixtape and abusing add-ons, but the feeling that you could EVENTUALLY down them, made it fun. Now, you're just sluggish with a stall hit and his playstyle feels very one note and streamlined, and limited to the point where there's no uniqueness or variety in playstyle. Yes he's healthier, but very bland and boring.
Exactly this^^.
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@miaasma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/537083#Comment_537083
i play legion
his power gives you a free first hit and can get multiple people off gens. he's basically a wraith with added gen pressure
the people who complain about current legion are bad killer players, full stop, and the devs aren't balancing for you, no matter how many poorly phrased paragraphs you type on a forum
get over it
I was not bad.
I have play usually against rank 2-20 survivors because of the matchmaking and no matter if I had a beginner for me or one of that rank two's, I was never chanceless (well besids a few times against real good swf groups).
Besides, the Legion without addons had never a free kill, if he had not play against potato survivors. That lets for you only open, that you either hate the old Legion in general, or you were one of those pesky Legion players who have only jump in a match if they had their op addons running.
Since the old Legion without addons had make incredible fun and also survivors seem to like it, as I could read it in the endgame chat, I will never be "over it". It is too worthy what its lost, besides - the minority that has complain about the Legion of their pure hate has teach me a important lesson: "Never stop with your complains!" and what should I say... I have adapt.
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@miaasma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/534879#Comment_534879
i stopped reading at "as a former legion main"
previous legion downed people for free even without exploiting
current legion gets you a free hit and then requires you to actually play the game in order to down someone
if you're complaining about current legion then you aren't the type of player the devs are balancing for and the rest of us are happy for that
Why you don't say directly then, that you don't know from what you are talking and just like to be on the hate train? That would be at least honest.
Everytime someone trys to avoid a conversation it says already enough and obviously you haven't read the rest, because I already showed that this "the rest of us are happy for that" argument is not working and is more of a opinion of you and a minority as "us".*
Edit: Well at least if you understand under "us" every player that plays, or has play the game.
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To be fair, Meyers is imo a bigger franchise. Nevertheless, Legion feels with you guys and how it looks, also the pigs^^.
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That can only come from someone who was never really into one of them and also like to see killers in general gutted.
It is not even what survivors wanted besides a small but vocal minority. As a former Legion main, I have not followed the pig discussion much, but even by the Legion I have seen some survivors on the steam and dbd forums that were against the patch. That had enjoy the state before and that were only the forums. What I have read in the forums was nothing compared to my endgame chat, where mostly survivors had thank me for a good, or challenging game (I don't link to a picture of that again, if someone has doubt he should search that thread where I have post a screenshot by myself for evidence).
And I bet we can say the same about the pig.
Also many survivors dislike it that they only meet the nurse, spirit and billy in red ranks. They would like to have a change more often if you look into the countless threads about exactly that topic.
But a change can only happen if more killers are viable in red ranks. That should be logic, or did someone really to expect killers, to play low tier killers in red ranks? Well... maybe that small minority from before I guess... but besides them, no one would do it.
Strong killers are a win for both sites. Killers have then fun with their killer of choice (a thing they mostly pay for since all the chapters cost money) and survivors have finally diversity under their opponents.
In the name of every killer who is not part of the "red rank elite", please make the killers more viable, devs. That means either take "reworks" back, or in other cases from killers that had the luck until now, to be not reworked, buff them and what the few red rank killers matters... Don't nerf them to hell please -_-.
Not every survivor likes a easy game, even I can understand that this thought comes up, after reading X nerf threads in the forums, but a look in the endgame chat speaks often a different language, if the killer has not play toxic (aka. facecamp, or tunneling for feeled centurys).
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@DocFabron said:
And I was so excited to play as him... Waste of my hard earned cash. Hopefully he gets his nerfs reverted........
Legion here.
It will probaly take some time.
Imo, bhvr makes the mistake to listen to a small but very vocal minority for reasons unknown to me and then they just throw their nerfs out (reminds me almost on the Cyberpunk outrage of a minority of sjws, just that CD Projekt Red doesn't care - so refreshing :)). On payed content and no matter if the dlc will be review bombed down to nearly 90% negative postings and even if your killer of choice has one of the most popular tags here in those forums.
Hope is always a good thing, but... After they have make a mistake, they seem to need a good load time to accept that.
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@Killjoy359 said:
Who doesn't
Well, me as example. And others. Killers and also survivors.
I heard that a big streamer poisent his audience to hate the Legion, but... You know... There are still people out there with a own free will and mind.
But don't let me interrupt your hate train guys. Everyone should do what he likes to do.
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The most Legion mains I have read (and also including me) are not happy with the patch because of the strength of the Legion.
We are unhappy about the patch, because he has taken the fun out.
I know that the Legion had to struggle before the patch - without purple addons + (then it was a real threat), but the Legion had make so much fun pre patch that you have not care for kills.
You have care for the chase. For the thrill to running wild stabbing behind someone.
I have often let survivors go by my own free will, because I was so happy with the match just because of the chase. That had sometimes end in funny scenes, how that I have carry them to the gates or so... :).
Its a pity that some new Legions will never know how it was before as a Legion and as a result also will never learn to know that feeling :(.
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@se05239 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/519462#Comment_519462
@Peanits Other devs share his beliefs as we got to hear "How fun Legion was" and "it was fun stabbing people" and such on Livestream.
Was he fun? I'll let the forum history tell the tale.
And that is a common mistake some people make.
The forum communitys not always reflect the mindset of a community, so crazy it first sounds.
The reason for this is simple = The most people say nothing if they are happy about something, or if they don't care about something, but in the moment they thinking negative about something - then you can bet, they are in the forums to write their postings and threads.
What that means is, you can always assume that the majority of people stays neutral, or friendly to a topic, if the negative feedback is not overwhelming, like by the ending of mass effect 3, or by the release of fallout 76 - to name a few examples here.
To know how the Legion was, you needed to build your own opinion - without influenced by those whiney influencers that only care for their view numbers - and play as a Legion.
I had play the Legion pre nerf as main and the overwhelming majority in the endgame chat after matches against me, were positive and happy - besides the 2 times in my "killer life" where I had facecamp someone and also a few times where I have met survivor that have seem to be in general stressed out.
I can remember one, - to name an example - he called me a tunneler, but was it my mistake, that he had run more as 2 times direct in my arms? Serious, it is hard to kill someone not who is literally running into your arms!
Anyways. If you really like to know how people are thinking about a killer, play that killer by yourself and take a look into your endgame chat and take minus the comments that maybe had come up because of your toxic play style, if you prefer to camp as example.