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They could be a bit rewrite the story of the Legion, like the story for the Joker in "Gotham".
The Joker getting killed there and the police thought the problem is solved, but then random people start laughing and stabbing the nearest guy they could reach.
What if the legacy of the Legion drives more and more teens and young adults in to a murderous frenzy? There first kill was for sure a headline in the local papers...
"your legacy will be death and madness". Just with time with the Legion in mind :).
I would love to see something like this, when I coming back to dbd, after they have hopefully make the Legion fun again (I just waiting for exactly this patch news devs^^).
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/576889#Comment_576889
As long as you have the "us vs them" mentality you're not gonna help anything. I'm done trying to convince you otherwise.
As long as I still hear from Legion haters that all pre patch Legion's were exploiters and that there was no counterplay and other myths like that, I will not change.
We have not start this, but we sure have to face the changes every day.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/576874#Comment_576874
Okay people spamming the forums about Legion didn't get him changed. His ability being abused and exploited in a way that made the game truly miserable for everyone got him changed. If you think it was people that just didn't like him for no reason then you're deeply mistaken.
It's easy to think that. I wish it was not the case, but if you remember the nerf threads - the Legion patch was a 1:1 copy of them.
They have intended or not, exactly do what those guys wanted.
Imo, if exploits fixing would have been the priority for the devs for looking at the Legion, they would have just fix the exploits, without changing the game mechanic of this killer.
As example, they could have simply grey out 1 knife, if a Legion player had already choose the green, or purple one in his addon screen.
The Legion would have been after that still the same, but without that damn knife exploit.
That would have been a change without hurting the killer.
Because of this, and other examples I tend here to believe the Legion haters, that have claim the Legion patch as their victory.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/576858#Comment_576858
Boy you're good at putting words in other people's mouths. I'm sure Legion will get looked at eventually, but they're not gonna drop everything and fix him up immediately. We'll likely see occasional buffs and tweaks in patches to come though. But people spamming the forums with threads about Legion isn't gonna speed that up
The Legion haters had spammed the forums with their threads and it seems as this had help.
They have say to us Legion mains, that we should adapt.
Now... We have adapt and they are still not happy *smiles*.
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If the Legion patch had teach us 1 thing, then that a vocal minority of haters had win over a more serious but also more silent majority.
We need to stay together, to have a counterweight to those guys. Not only in Legion threads, -also for every other killer out there.
If those guys succesfull, the most killers will get a nerf. For evidence we just need to look in the forums and the nerf threads that popping up each day, with the aim to make killers weaker and with it, dbd more boring to play.
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@Galklife said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/576613#Comment_576613
"for some survivors" like for every surv that knows how this game works so 200h+ i guess,
"Besides "free hits" has every killer beyond rank 20" give me your free hits on me (over 1000h on surv and 900h on killer), show me how free you can m1 me as hilly xd youre not getting free hit
Legion wont get rework(in like 2years), he is too far in devs list priority. Just play Legion 2.0 (spirit) which is (and was even when legion came out) much better killer
-I was a pre patch main Legion. In my endgame chat I had often talk with the survivors and that was mostly not toxic. More, just a nice and funny talk. Sometimes they have even thank me for a challenging game.
I have even make a picture of that a few days before the patch. Sadly on this picture are just 5 endgamechats. Would I have startet earlier to make this collage of endgame chats, of positive comments to the pre patch Legion, the collage would be have much more screenshots included.
But... A long time I had never thought that this patch will go live. To late I had realize that he will go live and so I had not enough time anymore to make more screenshots^^.
This to the actual situation in the game and let us now come to the forums: Even in the forums, many survivors were ok with the Legion and some have found the pre patch Legion even good.
Not every survivor likes an easy game. Some actual like to earn their wins and don't like to win, knowing that they have just win against killer X because of a nerf, or a rework.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/576618#Comment_576618
Anytime you buy something in this game you have to do so knowing that it could be changed. I wouldn't get my hopes up on Legion being changed again anytime soon.
Everyone who plays multiplayer games, knows that changes happen, but usually those changes are like: "let us nerf ability X and make it 2% slower, let us buff the damage of abilitiy Y on 1%".
The changes are usually not a whole redesign of payed content and everyone who is then upset, just shows that he is still a normal human being and still knows the value of money, even in times like those we live in.
But you are right, I also think that the devs will need some time to realize that they have make something wrong.
Same by me - I had bought the Legion dlc and then a skin for Susie. Would the patch not had happen, I would have also bought a new skin Julie. And that just yet about what I had planned to buy concerning the Legion and not the other things I had also on my map, until that "accident" had happend.
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@TRB124 said:
Legion was incredibly unfun to play against. Even now he is frustrating because his power gives him free first hits and an annoying mend action you have to perform, as well as his power revealing your position as well.
He’ll need a full rework of his power, buffing him will only put him at where he was before
Legion was unfun to play against for some survivors. No thanks needed for correcting you here^^.
Besides "free hits" has every killer beyond rank 20 - sort of. You learn very quickly as killer when you have to hit a survivor, so that the chance is very little, that he can avoid this hit - lags and other stuff like this yet not counted in.
That is not a free hit "on the paper" but... You can see it as this in the practice^^.
So please stop using fake arguments because you are upset about the Legion in general.
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@Visionmaker said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/575731#Comment_575731
I love that people bring up Legion as an example as if only survivors complained about Legion.
PSA: EVERYONE complained about Legion. Many of the most prominent Killer content creators made videos on why old Legion is completely uncounterable. People who played both sides hated Legion. Even Legion mains knew how unfair it was. There were hundreds of memes and thousands of posts made about Legion being the most unfun Killer in DBD.
You'd have to be delusional to think that moon-walking Blood Hound / three-stab down Legion was fair, fun, and balanced and that SuRvIvOR MAiNs were the ones who ruined it.
1-If that is so, why I have read to that time many Legion mains, killers in general and also survivors who have defend the Legion?
2-I don't give a damn what a content creator aka. streamer says to nerfs and the reason is simpel: Those guys are forced to do what their audience like to hear. If their audience is crying about the Legion, or also like in this thread about the Nurse, they also start crying killer X.
Also it had come to my ears, that some of them have encourage their audiences to dc against the Legion and I have zero tolerance... really ZERO tolerance, for every toxic behavior on level what dcing is.
In my opinion, they should have been banned. But the devs haven't done this, and so today dbd suffers under a dc plague. That happens when you support toxic people... Always! And that is also why, you should never support them. Instead you should ban them to hell.
3-Nobody had ever say that moonwalking was fair, or the overpowered addons, or also the other exploit. But to nerf a killer because of those problems, like they have did it with the Legion was wrong. Also it is was wrong to punish the honest playing Legion's (like me) for something that had a few exploiters do.
4-It is easy to think that survivors have ruined the Legion because a small but very vocal hater minority of the survivors have lead the nerf discussions and push that topic until the devs have give up (I assume). Also, at the moment at it was clear that the Legion patch would coming, the same haters have celebrate their "victory", also very vocal, in at least the steam forums.
Then they have shift over to nerf threads for the Nurse and the Spirit in the most cases.
Those guys have their agenda and she implied, that every killer that could possible a threat to their tbaging behavior in the matches, must be nerfed.
I also think that the nurse is pretty strong. Maybe with some addons op... But!... I think also that she is very important for dbd. She is one of the last killers, that make the survivors doing objectives and playing the game as it is thought.
With possible nerfs of other killers on the horizon, a killer like the Nurse gets more and more important for the game.
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Some survivors are "pissed" from everything a killer can do. If a killer is not loobable, they cry without end.
They startet with the Legion and who knows where this will end, besides a game that is then for survivors and killers boring.
Luckily not every survivor is like this.
PS: #makethelegiongreatagain please :P
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-The chase with the pre patch Legion. That had almost a addicting character for me^^.
-Chasing an survivor in an edge, to the point where he had thought "oh, now I am gonna die"... Just to let em then wiggle his way out :).
-Killing toxic survivors who thought that they are the king of the match, while the gates are already open and they could see their way out before had catch them then.
Yeah sometimes I was pretty merciless... But friendliness and merciless is just one site of the same coin for me^^.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/575161#Comment_575161
People using his power for the free hit is the reason they lose. You need to use his power to damage an entire team very fast. Of course he's still boring to play but not useless.
I was on the patchday more succesfull, with just ignoring his special ability and m1 everyone. That was easier as before, thanks to the buffed default movement speed and also on this way you have not to struggle with all the frenzy drawbacks.
Not that it had make fun :|.
Fun on the other hand, sounds your idea Nightmare. By this idea, the drawbacks feel not, as they would be drawbacks.
With the actual Legion to play feels just as would you play against all the artificially programmed in drawbacks, as against the survivors.
Even I can already see drawbacks in your concept, they would not feel as those and with that you have already more achieve as the Legion patch^^.
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@PolarBear said:
@Peanits Do you guys know we can't see the "BHVR Read" tag unless we go to OP's profile and check which of their threads have been tagged as "BHVR Read".
Would be helpful if it showed it in the thread itself.
Uh, puh. I thought already I was blind :). So not only me was confused by that whole tag thing.
Thanks for confirming that the threads and posting at least get read. It's already somehow relieving^^. And because I am on the internet - that comment was meant to be positive and not ironical, sarcastic or what ever :|.
Hopefully we get a Legion that is fun to play then in the future.
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Do ya only complain
I can also be pretty grateful... If I get a reason for that.
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To my time as I had play the game, I had 2 "anti-killer bullying" perks active.
Mad Grit lets you actualy hope that they body blocking. Iron Maiden is good if you have to deal with survivors, that try to take the game hostile.
If they using lockers to do it, you know where they hiding...
I hope they will never nerf those perks, because they are really, really helpful.
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I can't help me, but would I have and play Ghostface, I would also sometimes tbag. Not to insult someone, but just... for the lulz :).
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@ReikoMori said:
Legion by a longshot.
The update they did to this killer butchered them so badly. They chopped out all the fun and replaced it with stale limitations and slapped a 115%ms ban-aid on it. You can see where a couple of interesting ideas may be, but overall this killer is just a mess.
Legion was never strong, but due to a mechanic that is prone to breaking and a community that was super adverse to being challenged at loops to a somewhat pressuring degree the response was extreme. Now the general consensus that I can see from talking with streamers and players on the forums from both sides is that what happened to Legion was far beyond what should have happened. Even the most hardline Legion haters from back then now pity the results.
Legion mains are sort of split into two camps. Those who want adjustments made to current Legion to put some life back into the killer. Then there are those like myself who want to see an altering of the power to give it much more separation from perks and killers that may end up sharing Deep Wounds and Killer Instinct. Both camps do agree that old deep wounds isn't wanted back from the threads and streams I've been in suggest.
I tweet to the official dbd twitter page everyday with #FixLegion in the hopes that it keeps this killer's situation in their mind. I know that Nurse is supposed to their next top priority as the vocal majority have driven that subject of contention into the grave. I just don't want them to forget that there are people passionate about seeing killers like Legion be treated fairly.
Thank you for your effort. Would do it by myself, but I am not registered by twitter, facebook, or any other social network like this.
I stick more to good old forums software like this dbd forums as example, or also some much bigger ones.
How ever, they should not be able to forget the Legion, no matter how hard they are trying.
Besides necessary and obviously changes to the Legion, I think the Clown can also something become what helps him with map pressure.
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/571599#Comment_571599
This is not uncommon in the slightest. Achievements show the percentage of the total owners who earned an achievement. Many people (myself included) hoard games and never end up playing half of them. Others might buy the game, play it a couple time, possibly play it exclusively like a party game in KYF and then stop playing entirely.
To give an example, there's an achievement in PAYDAY 2 for just putting on your mask. It is literally the first thing you do in the game- you can't finish the tutorial or play a single mission without doing it- but at one point only ~66% of the people who owned the game had it unlocked.
We're not balancing around the people who never got to rank 10, that would be silly. It would be great if they decided to come back down the line, but making balance changes isn't going to suddenly make them reinstall the game and start playing every day. We would rather balance around the people that are playing the game.
Well, with the right Legion changes, you guys would make me play the game again. I would lie, then I would not say, that I am waiting for it. So at least one would for the right balance changes log in again :).
That's also the reason why I read every news I can get from dbd and also why the game is still installed - so I get instant the news^^.
Still... I would love to log again into dbd. But seeing the Legion in this state is too much for me :(.
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So many guys want to have a Leatherface overhoul?
Have you not learn from us poor Legions? :|
After the rework, LF will cut it self in the leg, after he has used his chainsaw. I see it already coming :(. You know... Every freaking abilitiy needs to have drawbacks. Because drawbacks are a fun experience for every player :| At least that seam some people to think.
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@George_Soros said:
@thomasnut I don't have much to add there, well said. (Especially about computer rambos)
@Talmeer to my experience, Germans are BY FAR the nicest players ever. I have honestly never seen a German player insulting, harassing, humiliating others. I'm sure there are some, but literally any other country has more trolls than Germany. I love Germans.
Thanks very much for the kind words, but to be fair, I had one time meet a toxic one.
He started in the endgamechat with his insults, because he thought that I had tunnel him. I can only say to my defence... It's damn hard to tunnel not someone, who was literally always running into your arms :|.
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I don't watch many dbd YouTubers.
I have watch dbd videos from Gronkh and Pandorya. 2 YouTubers, that are not toxic from germany and they have dbd just play for fun, a while ago.
And then I have watch one time a tutorial video to the pre patch Legion, to maybe find new ways for me, for doing better my killer "job".and latley I have search for someone a Legion counterplay video.
So, you see @George_Soros , not everyone needs toxic streamers and what my hatred for exploiters or cheaters matters - I have him already since my days of the first versions of Counterstrike - no streamer necesseray for me :D.
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You need to think by all that also on their audiences.
I guess, nobody likes to see his favorite YouTuber always losing and if I am honest, I like those YouTubers 3 times more, as the ones, who need to always rant about a game, or a game mechanic/feature to hold their audience in line.
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"Give me sugar
Give me something sweet
I've spent a lifetime
Feeling incomplete
If I sound bitter
Or if I've come too late
Please reconsider
I don't need much on my plate
Just give me sugar"
Garbage - Sugar
I don't need much on my plate Behavior, just give me sugar - and undone at least a few things from the rework <3.
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Well... I am still interested in the game, even I don't play it at the moment.
Would I uninstall it, I would maybe miss update news with a undone of the rework. So I would miss a reason to play again the game. I am still not ready for that.
Besides... I know not one situation in the internet, or in real life, where avoiding topics is a good thing. So I have still some hope, that they sooner or later are start to look at the Legion again.
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@[Deleted User] said:
They talked about only the most common worst things and Freddy. It feels like a placeholder to calm the majority down. Who knows what we will get in PTB.
Well nothing surprising with the Freddy rework on the horizon. Still they could mention it. I don't know what is holding them back^^.
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I stopped playing since the Legion patch, still waiting for a rework or undone of the rework ... :)
But before I had play 2-6 matches/day. Depending on how many fun and time I had.
Now I playing Stellaris again and Watch Dogs 1 (it makes fun to shoot on open street at the bad guys and then getting chased by the police :)) and also Skyrim, or Fallout 4. Depending for what I am in the mood.
Also Cyberpunk 2077 is already pre ordered and I can't wait for finaly diving into Night City^^.
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Well, I haven't found it in your description, but I guess you still give survivors the sprint boost after a hit in frenzy, right?
That is already a help for survivors, if they not running straight forward the whole time. But to remove lunge from frenzy would also be a interesting idea and yes, you are right with the bloodthirsty part :).
I wouldn't btw. surprised if 1 day a chameleon killer comes into dbd with your disguise mechanic - just then without the frenzy ability. Imo dbd needs some new killer-archtypes and appearance changing killers would be some^^.
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I prefer small patches over big ones in multiplayer games. Big patches carry always the danger with them, to go to far (like the Legion patch).
Imo it would be better, to make small patches and go from it then a step forward or back.
In single player games however, I like big patches more, but there are usually no balance issues.
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You have spent a lot of effort in your idea, but I am still not sure.
What me makes unsure is the disguse mechanic as first.
I assume that would be a very fun making mechanic, but this mechanic is already so strong, that it would justify a new killer.
Or better new killers - if we think on the tons of movies that have appearance changing killers in it.
And the secound is more a minor reason, just because of my own taste. I would like to have the penalties for a missing hit go away. But this point you can ignore, its just my taste - nothing more.
At the end I can only say, that you have great ideas, but I am not sure how they would work in the game, if one killer can do all those things.
I guess, we would need first to see a Legion like this on a ptb.
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@HorsePower said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/562462#Comment_562462
Why would I run a perk against a killer that i don't even face every match? Perks should never come into a discussion where we are talking about countering a killers power.
Not only the game is asymetric - also killers and survivors are different.
While a killer is mostly defined by his abilitiys is that not the case by a survivors. A survivor is mostly defined by his perks.
You may think now, that this unfair torwards survivors, but it is actual pretty fair, because it is something that works for both sides.
In 1 match you encounter maybe a killer who is laughing about your perks - but in the next match you maybe encounter a killer who is outplayed by your perks.
So... perks are important fore survivors imo.
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@Peanits said:
It's almost midnight and I'm off the clock, but I'm still taking the time to respond because we do care about that game. We have always done our best to explain why things are changing. The Ghost Face changes, for example, were planned alongside the other changes in the PTB. With a deadline coming up, not all of the changes made it into the initial release and had to be saved for a hotfix. We made sure to announce this the same day so everybody knew what to expect. Feedback goes two ways; while your feedback might get implemented, feedback from people on the other side gets considered too. Inconsistent detection is also something we'd like to address. As far as viability goes, Ghost Face is currently one of the deadliest killers at rank 1 by a fair margin.
As for the Freddy rework, I would suggest waiting to try it before jumping to conclusions. You do not want to underestimate dream traps. Dream pallets alone are a guaranteed hit if you are asleep. I won't go into extensive details here because you have not had the chance to try it yet so there's no point debating.
The "hitboxes" are working as intended and have been for quite some time. There are two main factors that contribute to this; latency, and animation. In 3.0.0, we reviewed all attack animations and made sure they matched the size of the hitbox. Now they will more accurately reflect their range (smaller weapons in particular didn't look like they could reach that far before). With dedicated servers, we will be addressing the latency side of things. It's not forgotten, it is actively been worked on as is evident by the changes just two weeks ago.
Regarding exploits: Nobody who used a bugged perk or add-on from 3.0.0 was banned. I'm not sure who told you that people were being banned for it but it was not the case. We opted to fix them with a hotfix as soon as possible instead.
DC bans have been in place for a long time now and a stronger DC ban system has been requested many times by the community. While it may not be a priority for you specifically, there are plenty of people who are fed up with people leaving matches and want to see stricter punishments. We know where they're coming from and we're working on a new system right now. We'll have more info to share soon.
Prestige is meant to be purely optional. It's not necessary. It is there to give you something to do if you play the game a lot and need a goal to work towards. If there were actual rewards tied to prestige, you would be excluding a good portion of the players who don't have as much time to invest into the game.
As for rank, rank is used for matchmaking purposes at the moment. We would like to have rank rewards down the line, but they have taken a backseat to more pressing issues.
We do not make changes for no reason. All of the things you have mentioned are being looked at in some way, and we always explain why changes are happening. I would suggest taking a look through the patch notes and news section if you're ever unsure, we spend a lot of time making our communication as clear and transparent as possible.
Your dedication to your job is admirable, but I think, sometimes the people would like to talk with you guys a bit more.
If I think back on the Legion threads as example - we had wait very long for a response and the response we finaly got... This response was more a general text.
The problem with that is, that you can't get understanding with a general text towards killer X/survivor main players, because players who main something have probably spent much time with the thing, they are main and have a brighter understatement of the things they are talking about, as the random player that is maybe happy with a general text.
So, I think sometimes a more "in depth" answers would be appreciated and also when you guys would a little bit discuss with us.
And hey, waving the Legion flag we are still waiting for a discussion :).
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@miaasma said:
people would just downvote other people's posts based on who was posting them, not the content of their posts
i remember posting things and getting immediate downvotes before whoever was responsible could have possibly read my post
if you have an issue with someone's post you're at liberty to voice it. downvoting didn't really have any purpose
After our disccussions I never thought that I would ever agree with you, but here I am and I agree with you :).
By some postings I have write in the past, it was only logial that some people have downvote me, since different people have different point of views, but by others on the other hand, I had thought "how can anyone downvote this" until I had realize, that I got imo my first personal hater :D.
But that was ok...
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I also tend to collect dlcs, besides the few (mostly) I am really not interested in.
That means for dbd, if I would still playing the game, that I would have bought nearly every dlc by now, besides the Plague dlc and the Ashley dlc.
But behavior needed to release the Legion rework and so I had decided to completed my Hearts of Iron 4, Stellaris and Pathfinder: Kingmaker dlc collection instead^^.
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@miaasma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/558429#Comment_558429
i am legitimately concerned for your health
Why? I have just work 2 years for a building contractor. They had also a contract with the state, to help rehabilitated criminals back to a normal life.
But I need to say... Even I am not to frighten easily... That one former cocaine drug victime there had let my blood freeze sometimes. Not to mention the storys I hear from a friend that works in a psychiatry with also criminals in it.
I have no problem to stay up for what I think, but would I have seen on work this drug victim guy with a knife in his hands... I would rather call the police as to try to "bully him".
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The huntress I can comprehend. I had one match made with her because of a daily, where a ashley had run for an open gate always from the left to the right. Trying to bully me I guess where the match was already over.
1 hatchet later he was not moving anymore and that at the end of a match....^^ :D.
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I just play and mod Skyrim/Fallout 4 in the time between and I thinking to play a little bit Battlefield 3 or 4 again. 1 shot - 1 kill, -not like in dbd with its 3 hook system^^.
Still I wait for the undone of the patch. 1 day they will need to realize, that patches like the Legion patch make the game to boring. For killers and survivors.
All those new threads in the dbd forums about boring gameplay, second objectives and so on - that is just a symptom, because they have make the game too easy for the survivors imo.
Sooner or later they have to face this and then we can only hope for this game, that they turn the tables and coming to the right conclusions.
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The current chase with the Legion feels, like if you are a donkey with a carrot for your head.
You see your target, but you will nerver reach it, if it is not rank 20 (in real or in mindset) ^^. No, no. And on top of that... If you just make one wrong step, a hunter comes and shot you... It feels like that, imo.
That is pretty unsatisfying for a killer who is advertised to be "fast" and "agile".
I think also that they don't want to listen to us... yet. And I can understand it. They have weeks, maybe months work on the rework and then... Nobody likes it of the former Legion mains.
I can't hold it back... They should have seen this coming...
But it is too late for those thoughts. I hope they realize one day, that the only thing they can do right now, is to undone the patch, if they want to do something good and what is right.
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Your posting was really written with passion -> I love it :).
The Legion patch has shown it - we need to stay in this together, now matter which killer we prefer. I wish you spirit guys the best and hope that they don't nerf her^^.
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@Yikes_A4K83 said:
She is supposed to be op. She's a dead girl, a ghost, she breaks reality, there's a reason it's easy for her. Same with Nurse. But other killers like Legion are meant to be bullied. They are just teens in a mask, practically fellow survivors playing dress up.
To think that someone with the will to kill and a knife in his hands, is a person that is easy to be bullied is one of the easiest ways in real life, to get a knife between your ribs.
If you have doubts on my words, go and work somewhere where rehabilitated severely criminals work, or drug victims get help while they suffer under withdrawal symptoms.
Hf, but don't be mad at me when you hit a hospital shortly after bulling one of them^^.
But out of context now...
How I have knew it, that some survivors would start their "nerf spirit, nurse, killer x" campaigns, after they have destroy the Legion... That was so... Predictable yawns.
We were the shield and now they trying to change every other killer -_.
I hope the devs have learn enough from the Legion patch, so that something like that never happend again. Not important about wich killer we talk.
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When as killer: You get more fun perks. You dont have to rely on 3 others. You have devs attention when it comes to balance.
Sadly we become the wrong kind of attention :|.
But with the mom nerf you survivors got finaly a idea what it means to get "attention"^^.
That's at least somehow fair.
But btt. I have play survivor when I needed a chill round after playing killer. But thanks to the attention we killers got with the Legion patch, I have stopped playing since then.
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I just hope that they wake one day up.
We could have fun again.
Survivors who like to have a challenge could have fun again.
And they could making more money again. Because people who not play anymore because of the Legion patch and people that are disappointed by the difference between reality and advertising will not buy any skins^^.
That would be a win-win-win situation behavior. Just throw that in the room...
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I don't know...
But if someone has to pre patch Legion times encounter a Legion in the EU region, that has just make crazy chases, or sometimes m1 mind games and down survivors just to carry them to the gates or the hatched... Then you have maybe met me :).
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Don't worry, the more killers the devs nerf, the more nurses will show up. One day, she will maybe remain as the last and only killer in dbd^^.
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@miaasma said:
a lot of people on this forum idealize pre-rework legion as being "fun" for them, not realizing that the only reason it was fun for them was that it delivered them effortless downs
it was absolutely horrible for the game and needed to change, though i do think current legion could use some tweaking
At least for Legion that only use addons with a maximum of the green rank, it was not much more effortless as for any other killer.
And also survivors have enjoy it, when I remember my endgame chats (mostly) and some survivor comments in the steam, but also here in the official dbd forums.
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And... Sorry for the doublepost again, but... When I write a second posting shortly after a first one, it only starts to getting worse. Also editing for as example typos is a bad idea. Then Firefox starts rambling that this page makes the browser slower.
That's also the reason why I have make now a doubleposting^^.
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I have the same problem.
High cpu usage when I writing a posting. Reading and reloading the forum pages is no problem.
But as soon as I write a posting, the cpu usage goes up. When I write long postings, I can even look how the letters slowling gettings displayed, while I already writing 2 sentences forward of the actual displayed sentence.
I use the firefox 64-bit and I have test it with and without no-script and ad-block.
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Sorry for the doubleposting now, but Almo I just like to say that the whole Legion patch gave the impression, that you guys were in panic.
Maybe that is wrong, but for me as a pre patch Legion, and also for the nerf-thread starters has it look like this.
At the moment where it whas clear, that the Legion patch would come, they had already claim it as their victory (and then they had already shift over to nerf nurse and spirit threads, but that is another topic).
My point is, not every survivor is like those guys. Infact I believe they are the minority. Sure, as a pre patch Legion I am maybe biased, but I have read different opinions of the Legion in my endgame chat and also in the steam forums sometimes.
Infact, it is not uncommon today, to find in the dbd forums (here), survivors that say things like that is actual boring to play against the Legion, because she is no longer a threat anymore - compared to the most other killers.
Not every survivor likes an easy game. I understand, why somebody thinks that when I look at the nerf threads, but there are also survivors who like to have the opposit.
They like to have thrilling games that are actual a challenge for them. A gutted killer can't delivier that to them.
I know, you think maybe now, that I am talking to biased, but I can show you a collage with actual 4-5 endgame-chats that speak a different language as those survivors in the nerf threads.
Sadly, I can't show more, because as I started to make this collage, the Legion patch whas only 1-3 days away. So I had only a short time window where I could make this collage.
But, positive survivor comments were a standard in my endgame chat. Sure sometimes I had also crybabies in there, but that was honestly not very often.
After my experience, survivors had enjoy to play against the pre patch Legion, if she had not exploit, or use the op addons.
So... TL:DR... I don't think, that you need to be too afraid, to undone a few things.
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@Avilgus said:
Just wait for the 5 year anniversary stream like Freddy
But I would like to have fun again with the Legion a little bit sooner :|