Talmeer
Talmeer
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Is it not on the long run to frustrating, to play just for bps?
Just questioning, because I had mostley just play for the hunt, or with better words... For the frenzy-stabbing feeling. For me it was even secoundary to kill someone as long, as I could a little bit stab around^^.
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I can't descripe my feelings as I had make on the patchday a few testruns and a survivor had run away for me while I was in frenzy, in a medium sized loop (in the straight line from one loop end to the other).
That feeling was devastating.
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I can't speak for every Legion, but me had play the Legion, because I loved to be a fast running and stabbing killer.
Something that is not possible anymore today in the same way, since the frenzy speed got nerfed and the stun after a missed hit. Those 2 points are for me the changes that had gone to far. Sure some of the others are also hard to take, but not everything can sit on the throne, even if it is the throne of unwanted things^^.
I also like to see exploits fixed and I know that in multiplayer games, buffs and nerfs are just a part of the game, but if something takes the feeling away, its sad :).
Argh damn I need chocolate now :(.
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
No more broken mechanics to exploit, no reason to play legion for many. Lol. Rip all the p3 moonwalking or downward facing sloppy butcher legions.
That is a bit short sighted. In the past, survivors have also exploit.
If we follow this logic... Survivors should also be reworked in a way, that they can't be played as before and all that because a minoritiy of them had use the one or other exploit.
Sounds stupid, right? I mean... for me it sounds stupid...
Imo, to fix the two knifes exploit as example, it would have been enough if they had grey out the green, or purple knife addon, if a Legion player trys to use both of them in the addon screen.
Then maybe a rework of the strongest addons of the Legion and she would have been still the same, but not so strong anymore.
I think that would have had fewer negative comments and ratings. I mean if we look at the rating of the darkness among us dlc rating... It's almost overwhelming negative since the patchday... And that is for a reason.
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.... And that was not possible with the old Legion without addons.
Without addons, the old Legions have got usually 2-3 hits in frenzy, if the survivors were not afk or something like that.
How I said... For survivors were the old Legion a totaly different experience. Depending if the Legion had use no addons, or if he had use the higher Addons (purple+).
Edit: Or in short: Without addons = fun, with addons = no counterplay.
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Yeah but this sort of reaction turns into insignificance, if survs also dc towards other killers.
Besids the Legion I had also sometimes play meyers as example and I had also there my 1-4 dcs.
But yes I had also 1 time a match against a survivor with the name "Legion=DC" far as I remember.*
I saw her as first and she just had stay there like as she would be afk. After a while she got more and more active.
Pre-patch, the people were full of storys of Legions who have exploit, or destroy survs with addons like Franks Mixtape, but when they had meet a Legion like me, even they have develop fun after a small time, they needed to realize that I don't exploit and I don't had the purple addons on.
Sorry if I have sounded a bit harsh, but I have just type in here my experience in dbd as a Legion main (pre patch).
Edit: *If I remember correctly it was a Jane.
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DCs were never be a argument against the Legion. That would have been, if survivors would have only dc if they got matched against a Legion player, but that was never the case.
Even to the times before the patch, survivors had dc by every killer. Killers had post screenshots and I had also seen it by myself, how they have dc also against meyers, nurse, hag and so on.
The type of player who dc's is per definition a very toxic one, because he let his team alone against the killer. To listen to toxic people is very wrong and it still backfires on dbd, because the same people still dc. If someone dcs, there is only one right answer for it imo: Ban that guy, or hurt him at his bps until he develops a different mindset.
Also are exploits are no real reason. They are a reason to take out the exploits of course, but imagine for a secound how the dbd forums would look, if survivors would be nerfed too on the same way as the Legion, just because a minority of them exploits. If someone need evidence for exploiting survs, then Youtube is your friend.
And what the fun argument matters... I had play the pre Legion a lot and I had often fun games - also the survivors in the match against me had it. I had often fun talks with them in the endgame chat.
A Legion without addons, or only with brown-yellow ones was a fun experience for both sides and before someone says something to that, I have screenshots that proof it.
I miss the old fast and wild stabbing Legion. The hope that this feeling getting maybe one day re patched is the only reason why I still watch sometimes in the dbd&dbd steam forums and have not uninstall the game.
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@Mushwin said:
bring back the fun legion! i have not seen them since the nerf, nerfing killers =no one willl play or buy cosmetics for them
+1
In the moment they patching the old frenzy speed back and take that freaking stun after a miss hit out, I will start to play dbd again.
I have also never understand the arguments against the old Legion. What I had read to that time was mostly:
-DCs: Breaking news: Survivors dc also to other killers and they also still dcing and have not stop with the rework. If you like to see survivors dcing, you just need to play your killer of choice serious (aka. actual kill some people) and you will get your 1-4 dc screen of the day^^. To take hindsight for something that happens anyways does not make sense.
-No counterplay: That has always only count for Legion players that either have exploit and/or use purple addons+. A Legion without addons, or only brown-yellow ones was to counter at any time, by any survivor. I know that, because I played in 99% of the time exactly those type of Legion.
-Exploits: Exploits needs to be fixed. Nothing to say here. But survivors are also exploiting if they got aware of a exploit. Youtube is full of videos with exploiting survivors. Should they all nerfed to the ground, just because a minority of them is to stupid, to play the game without exploits? Clearly not! and so it is my thinking with the Legion.
-Unfun to play against: First, why I as a killer have to think of the fun of my coutnerpart? But even without that selfish mindset, that was not the case far as I could see it.
The majority of the players I have play against as Legion - pre patch - had fun to play against me and I had fun to play against them. That was a win-win situation.
I had even often fun talks with them in the end game chat. I know... some guys of you thinking that I am lieing now, but I am not.
I can try to post a "evidence .jpg" here, but first I need to figure out how...
That was a picture I had make with the upcoming Legion patch in mind. So all those comments are towards me playing the pre patch Legion.
Btw. I can't speak russian, but the german there says something like "Deine Perks machen mich fertig :) - Your perks are finishing me :)".
The hope that the feeling of the Legion will come back one day, is the only reason why I still reading the dbd forums. The feeling of a fast moving and stabbing killer was just great and no other killer can deliver that.
Edit: The quote in the picture reflects my thoughts to the patch.
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I play the ultimate mind game now since the Legion patch day:
Stopped playing the game and just killing survs with my mind :P.
More and more survs will die, without any evidence left besides a smile-scratch in the earth - out there in the wilderness around their little campfires - and parents will tell their children at their beds: "That was the ghost of the real Legion before the rework patch".
Sad story man :|.
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To know if the Legion gets her old frenzy speed back without a stab-stun is already everything I like to know and what decides if the killer can make fun again, for me.
The other changes can stay imo, to prefent the 4swf's groups from writing nerf threads again.
Hope we get a clear answer to that^^.