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  • @Madjura said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/620032#Comment_620032

    A lack of information could just mean the design isn't finalized

    The reworks are the one thing that has been consistently good, yes that includes Legion, the old power was a flaming dumpster fire of awful, so out of all the things that they might screw up, the Nurse rework won't be one of them

    Not every player has seen it like that. Not important if we talk about Legion mains, or survivors.

    Also I know some people, including me, that have stop playing the game since the Legion patch. Some of them wait still for a undone of the rework, or for some fixes. Others are gone forever.

    I don't know if someone should call this "good". Well, at least as long we have the adoption that dbd should be a game for a variety of people, instead of some entitled guys that anyways do nothing more as to write nerf threads after nerf thread.

    TL:DR For many Legion mains and also at least some survivors (don't know exactly how many, but for the pro Legion patch guys we have also no numbers) were the Legion rework a disaster.

    Edit: What the Nurse patch matters... I wish you luck Nurses. It could be going worse like with the Legion, but also being good like with Freddy. What I have read in the forums about the new Freddy is overwhelming positive.

  • @My_Farewell said:

    Buffing every killer so much, until the majority of their playerbase don't need to work for a kill anymore.

    ^ Fixed it for you @Talmeer

    That was not my intention, but I guess some survivors would not like to see fair games for everyone.

    Not that I would care about that :). If someone has something against that thought, it is the problem of that person.

  • @Andreyu44 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/619964#Comment_619964

    But a lot of killers still dodge 2 men swf with no items.

    *sigh*

    If I am honest, -when I was in a bad mood, I have sometimes dodge 4 swf groups. But by 2 swf groups I have never seen this as necessary.

    Head up, I bet you and your friend getting not always doged ;).

  • -Pre patch Legion activating

    -Buffing every killer so much, until the majority of their playerbase likes to play them in high ranks.

    -Rework of survivors: Every survivor would be ending up as unique, how killers it are already today. Aka. Some of them would run faster, others would be better at repairing, others in killer spotting and so on. Of course also with drawbacks, so that they not ending up being op (example: that the runner classes are very bad at repairing and so on).

    -New gamemods in parts. Escaping is a very great gamemode imo, but they could mix that gamemod a bit up with minor objectives in the maps and maybe also larger maps.

    -After they would have that balanced out (something that would be a really big piece of work), maybe small event matches. Where the best killers hunt the best survivors with some unique outfits as price, or maybe also money (prices then only for the 3 best of each category).

    That would it for me.

  • Playing against a 2 swf "group", + 2 solo survs, I have always like as killer.

    Imo, the 2 swf were also mostly people that have just play for fun. A guy and his gf that just wanted to have a nice evening as example and "groups" like that.

    Can't say anything bad about 2 player sized swf groups^^.

  • I don't think that you would be happyier in other coms @Gardenia

    I have play a ton of other games and was also part of their communitys since I started to playing in the internet, back in then... uhm... 1998, maybe 2000. Don't know it anymore exactly.

    And the dbd community is somehow unique. Here you can post things, where you would in other communitys get just a "lol" in the best case. In the worst - the whole community would fall over you and tell you "l2p".

    Even when we have sometimes different opinions Gardenia, I would like that you stay^^.

    The dbd toxicity is at least comprehensible :) (maybe not the best way to advertise the community :D).

  • Absolutely mains? Aka. the ones, that have eat my time most?

    Killers:

    -Pre patch Legion

    Survivors:

    -Kate Denson (shortly followed by Jeff Johansen, not main surv. so, but damn near it*)

    Edit: *feeled

  • @Zertix said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/619335#Comment_619335

    Current legion is weak, but reverting him to how he was is a big mistake. Old legion is the worst thing that ever happened to Dead by Daylight.

    For you and some other people.

    For other people on the other hand, it was the best what ever happened in dbd.

    I wish they would undone the damage, they have done to the Legion, just without the exploits and strong addons. Nobody needs exploiters and the op addons were boring. That's why I had never use them, besides to test them 1 time.

  • @Ember_Hunter said:

    So which characters are the least toxic? I find Kate to be the rarest at Toxicity.

    But for most of my games, every character is chill, Dwights and Jeff's always seem to he the most pros. And Jakes.

    +1 For your comment to Kate and Jeff <3

    Sadly I can't give a good opinion to that as killer main. The games I have play as survivor were for dailies or also to learn what those "strange" survivors were doing in the match besides gen repairing and how they usually move around the map. Which parts of the maps they prefer to avoid the killer outside a chase and so on^^.

    That are all things that can come in handy for a killer, if he knows them :).

    Still I like my Kate and Jeff.

  • @Glory said:

    Man, I always stuck it out against old legion, even in the infinite mending days. It was so worth it clapping them with pallets to drain their power, a ton of people would DC or rage but I had a good time taking on legions.

    I was never excited to play against one though, since I was constantly trying to play stealth builds back in December-Feb, and you know how well that works =/

    Stealth, huh?

    I had also sometimes play survivors and if I had play survivors, I had always try to play stealthy, but... It had mostly not work, because some guy got hooked up and.... sighs

    I can't let nobody die. Not in my watch... rhm... survivor match, eh :).

    And so it ended mostly in, that I have give up my stealth and run around like a chicken to get that guys of the hook.

  • @Glory said:

    If you aren't DCing like 30 games per day, no action is going to be taken. The devs have said time and again there's a threshold and anything under it isn't actionable. That is, until dedicated servers come out* (I still doubt they'll do anything, since they haven't to this day).

    Also, I'm not quoting anyone, or talking about other peoples' experiences here when I mention how ridiculous the DC rate was for legion. It's not uncommon now for someone to DC if they get farmed into what is clearly going to be their second hook, or right before their death if they were tunneled, sure. This was a whole different beast, though. It was "survivor is hit, deep wounds is shown to team, within 8 seconds someone yeets themselves out of the game." Like bloody clockwork, no joke and no exaggeration. You can discount it all you want, but it happened.

    Don't even get me started on frank's mixtape. Someone has half their open wounds bar disappear in one hit and the whole team just dissipates like a fart in a windstorm

    That whas not my impression as Legion pre patch main and because I mained the Legion, I should have seen this.

    On the other hand, I have play the Legion non toxic (besides 2 times where I have facecamp someone) and mostly without any addons or sacrifices above brown (besides 1 time/each addon for testing purposes).

    I don't argue that out there are people, that have only dc towards the Legion, for what ever reason, but they are for me the same as cheaters and exploiters in some way. They are just toxic and I don't care about the opinions of toxic people and I also think that every developer makes a huge mistake, if he listens to them, because then they feeled encouraged and that ends usually in more toxicity.

    My impressions were that the survivors have enjoy the matches. I have often talk with them in the endgame chat.

    Sure, I had sometimes also toxic guys in my endgame chats, but in the most cases they got talked down from their fellow survivor pals and in the rar cases where not, I can just say again, that I don't care about toxic people.

    Seems as we have make different impressions.

    Makes me wish, that you could one day play against a Legion like me and many other Legion players, that have play their Legion fairly. Maybe you would think different then today.

    Sadly, as we all know, that is not possible anymore.

  • I had never see offical data to that "absurd dcing" and until I do that, it is for me just rumors.

    DC's you get also with every other killer. At least, if you take the match serious and really try to kill someone.

    If you like, you can test it right now. Take some random killer and I promise you, you will get sooner or later your dc's, no matter which killer you play.

    Besides, dc's are the most toxic behavior a player can do in dbd. The last thing you should do is to support or encourage those people. Bans can also handle them^^.

  • My pre patch Legion endgame-chat were mostly friendly and even sometimes happy because they had a challenging, but fair game (with me as killer) and well... In hundrets of games I bet I have met in my endgame chats more people as we would find here in nerf threads.

    So... would the Legion be the reason, it would be crazy, since the people were happy so far I could see it.

    The Legion and MoM have suffer just a similar situation. First they were strong, then they got nerfed and then bhvr was surprised that the ppl were upset about that.

    I would say, it was pretty obvious that the ppl would be upset about the changes and they shouldn't had nerf those 2 dlcs like that.

  • I would guess, that something goes also to the license holders. Think that's also the reason why you can't buy licensed killers with shards.

  • Spirit imo and for the case you like to buy more dlcs on a other day, -buy also the Hag.

    Forget the other 2 until we wake not 1 day up with good patch notes for them^^.

  • @deadbyhitbox said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/616938#Comment_616938

    Legion was DC'd against so frequently. Far more than any other killer. There was a good reason for it too.

    I have seen no official data to it. Just rumors of people in the forums.

    And even then... I don't care at all. I have no love for people that, cheat, exploit, dc, or do what ever toxic behavior they come up with. I accept it, if someone says, that he dislikes the Legion, or even hate the Legion, if he not exaggerates and is not toxic.

    That is only human, since we all have different things we like, or dislike, but the named things above crossing my personal borders.

    As example: I am happy that exploiting Legion's got banned. Serves them right, but dcing people should also be banned and more I am not interested in them, or also the Legion's that have exploit and well... I guess we should give the thread now a chance^^.

  • I have met more Nea's with flashlights, as Claudettes and at least Claudette looks cute and has not this horrible cutted hair like Nea^^, but don't jump on me now bearluvr.

    I am not a survivor main and when I had nonetheless play survivor, then Kate, or Jeff.

  • @deadbyhitbox said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/615354#Comment_615354

    Hmm, for a killer with counter play, strange that there were DCs against him every game, right?

    That could be argument, if not:

    -Survivors dc to every killer and also in the same amount. Even I was a pre patch Legion main, I had play on a regular bases also Meyers and the Clown and sometimes Trapper, Nurse and the Huntress* and should I tell you something? On all killers I got my 1x/2x/3x/4x dcs.

    -I will never support toxic behavior, as far I am aware of it. That means in case of dcing people... I don't care at all about them, or what they want. Would I have the choice, I would always do what toxic people annoy's most. If you have a problem with a game mechanic, killer, perk or what ever, - there are non toxic variants you can use to release your anger, like writing nerf threads and so on.

    But let you not fool yourself now... In the game I have mostly only meet friendly survivors and that had also even end in friendly endgame chats between 01 min-30 min on a regular bases. So, because I had not often meet the toxic survivor type, I had not often come in a situation where I had really to annoy someone^^.**

    *Trapper, Nurse and the Huntress mostly because of dailies.

    **Besides the named dc's, of course. But as said before, I don't care at all about that playertype.

  • Edit: I think I can better say what I liked to say in a few points:

    -Frank has give up his school but he still moves around Omond. Searching for some sort of social contact, or friends.

    -He got aware of Julie - a very beautiful women in this town.

    -He tries to get to know her better and meets her more and more often.

    -In this time he meets also Joey and Susie.

    -Over time they start to trust each other and become friends (Julie his gf).

    -Then they start to do more and more risky and sometimes illegal things together until it ended in murder.

    At least I have always take it as that and imo their story text supports that and all that can take much time until it comes to that.

  • Could we just stay please at the topic?

    Btw., for some people that could play their char good enough, there was counterplay and also fun while playing against him/her.

    I will never understand why some people, just because they, or a group dislike something, think that then automatically every person on the planet also dislikes, what they dislike. Different people have different likes/dislikes, huh?

    Edit: Sorry @ all, that I had just to say :|.

  • @Brok3n said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/614604#Comment_614604

    Totally agree. Honestly I'm 100% ready to buy Joe. But not until Legion gets fixed

    Before the patch, I had an eye on a Julie skin. The one that is pretty similar to her default skin, but a bit more grey/brighter... if that makes any sense^^. I like outfits in general, that look a bit 80s/90s.

    I have start to play the Legion with Julie, then play a long time Susie and... well... should bhvr decide to make the Legion fun again so that I see a reason in coming back... I guess I will play with Julie again.

    I just hope, she can forgive me, that I have for so much time run as Susie through the dbd maps... I guess I can never turn my back on her again, -not without having a knife between my shoulders :)^^.

  • @Brok3n said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/614411#Comment_614411

    Nah. They said if they ever do anything to him it will be add-ons. Like his double hit in FF to blind and that stuff they said they might change it to first hit

    Sure they say that. It's the straightes way without putting too much effort into it.

    Still, I believe that they will sooner or later change more. At the beginning, they said they will change nothing at the update. The addons are also a new development in this case.

    If they need 200 more threads to understand that Legion mains also like to have fun - not only the part of survivors that has opens nerf threads or cry about the Legion in them - then I can go along with that.

    If they ever want to see a cent again from Legion mains, that are annoyed by this patch, they should better do some changes^^.

  • @Strancol said:

    Legion update and the Pig nerf

    Legion update and the Pig nerf... But since we are only allowed to choose 1 thing, I say Legion update, that is basicly the same because the first Pig nerf has come with this update.

  • I have always see the music as a way of the devs to balance the game.

    In other games as example, you know where your enemies are because your hear the footsteps - that is something that not work in dbd because of the music, sometimes.

    So I think, there will most likley never be a option to set the music of.

  • @Shad03 said:

    @Ember_Hunter But it's a worthwhile investment to shake the meta up.

    Which is why I know it won't even be looked at by the devs.

    The more I think about all the "splitting ideas" I have read, the more I can go along with that.

    Reminds me a bit on Matrix where the machines (or how ever they were called) could use every civilian nearby to them, but as you said before - it will not come.

    The most likely scenario is imo, that they sooner or later undone a few things, that have gone to far with the Legion patch, and well... there they have the free choice since a ton has gone to far.

  • @Brok3n said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/612600#Comment_612600

    Sadly yes, they think base legion is fine *super sad face*

    I don't think that they think that the base Legion is fine.

    Imo, they just don't like to spent any more time on the Legion. Simple as that. They have guess, while they doing everything survivors have wish, that after that it goes silence around the Legion.

    But... They had make a big mistake. A mistake that is so huge, that you need to make a facepalm, to just stay sane after thinking about it.

    They have forget or ignore the Legion mains by the whole patch. The people that spent the most time with the Legion.

    This addon reworks/fixes/whatever is also again a short minded solution for a problem that will go on after that.

    Not every Legion main, but the ->majority<- like to have ->fun<- again with the Legion and until they finally have come to the conclusion that they have something to do about that, it will go on and on and on...

    If they have thought that the Legion playerbase can be ignored, or easily tricked... Well then they have make a huge mistake.

  • @Raptorrotas said:

    They could make it that frenzy attacks drain a bit of frenzy instead of ending it, also it doesnt have to be 50% attack cooldown reduction, 20% - 30% might be okay too. That multiple hits on the same target dont decrease DW anymore seems wrong too.

    If we wanted to rework them into another killer, possibly a "multiple bodies" or "doll" type because "Legion" (duh), we could copy HELL EMBER from IdentityV a bit.

    Edit: i dont own legion because i thought them a bit dull on release. So my opinion might not be relevant.

    Every opinion is relevant. It is just sometimes a bit frustrating that some people tend to listen to rumors, or streamers instead of the people that have the most experience with the Legion - aka. the Legion mains.

    So don't let you ever tell something different.

    What your frenzy idea matters, it is 1 that could possible work. With deep wounds would I be a bit carefully, because of possible nerf threads that would automatically follow to every deep wounds change, as long as that would be a buff for dw.

    Edit: @Chaddad2169

    Please don't use real life illnesses in this context. I am sure you can also find other words to describe your frustration.

    The pallet situation you could actually use very good against the Legion. There was a time window there the Legion could not hit you. If you have make the pallet dance with the Legion in this time window, you were safe and for the case, the Legion had just stay at the end of the pallets, because he hoped that you jump then in his arms... In this case you could just move in the other direction.

    But that only has worked against Legion without frenzy duration addons. Franks Mixtape as example. If the Legion had this addon, you was doomed, that is true.

  • @Ember_Hunter

    I have also heard that some streamers, maybe Fog Whisperes encourage their followers to dc. If that is true, bhvr should use the opportunity and make an example on the ones, who have done that, with a banhammer.

    I don't know if some people see them as role models, but after my experience, some people believe everything they say. That is at the end, the same in my eyes.

    I watch by myself many YouTubers and sometimes streams, but if I am really interested in something, I search by myself for more informations about what they have talk and don't stop, just because they tryd to build facts in their streams with their opinions.

  • @deadbyhitbox

    If that is your opinion then that is your opinion.

    @Brok3n

    I have mostly write tutorials against the Legion, since this was it where people seemed to be most interested in, or give people helpful answers to certain situation while they were facing a Legion.

    But, what is exactly your problem? Maybe I can help you, or at least someone other here in the forums.

    Besides that, I can give you a few general tips:

    -Play a few games as survivor. For being good, you need also always to understand the opposit site and that will you only if you are also playing this site sometimes.

    -Learn mind games, if you have not already, because you will mostly play mind games with the survivors as a m1 killer.

    -Use frenzy only if you are really, really near them. When you are near enough to one of them, that his body blocks your movement - then you are near enough and not before.

    -Don't use frenzy to catch up to survivors (like you have maybe done it before with the pre patch Legion). Use it really just to put deep wounds on one, or more of them.

    -I don't know which perks you prefer, but I would not go out without "Madgrit". If the survivors are inexperienced enough, this perk alone can "kill" a entire survivor group and it is a satisfying feeling too, to have finaly a effective "weapon" against those bodyblockers, when you try to hook someone up^^.

    For more I would need something specific from you. Anyways, I hope this short pice could already help you a bit.

  • I just would:

    Positive

    -Delete this freaking stun after a missing hit. Drawbacks by every possibility are no fun, and if someone actually likes that he should be forced to play the actual Legion all day in and out^^. After a week I would speak with him again :P.

    -Give the Legion his old frenzy speed back.

    -Reduce the stun after frenzy to the old stuntime from the pre patch Legion.

    -Give the Legion the ability back to start his frenzy whenever he wants. Just with the drawback how it was for the old Legion - aka. that you have not always your "full frenzy ready".

    -Deep wound should also work in a tr.

    -The old vault speed should be back. The Legion are young adults. Not a gang of grandpa's/ma's.

    Negative

    -Delete (and I really mean delete, no rework or what ever), the addons: "Franks Mixtape, Filthy Blade and Nasty Blade".

    -Reduce the base movement speed of the Legion about 5% (maybe more).

    -This Legion would still suffer under the tr and deep wound changes (besides the named 1).

    -------------------------------------------------

    That are my first thoughts^^.

    The goal of this is, to give the Legion the old hunting feeling back, so that you can have fun again while you playing with the Legion.

    But as drawback we should reduce the possible damage, the Legion can deal. So the named addons should not be reworked. They just should be deleted. No matter if we look at the new addons, or how they were in the past, the named addons would be just to strong with a Legion like that.

  • @Shaped

    Imo, the people have never really dc "because of the Legion".

    The Legion was just the perfect excuse for them, were they could tell themself for their screen "that they dc because of the Legion".

    The reality speaks a different language, no matter if we talk about pre patch Legion times, or afterwards:

    Survivors still dc then:

    -they got hooked

    -they dislike a specific killer, as soon as they see him/her (and here you can put every killer in. No... Really... Every killer.)

    -the killer let them not farm

    -the killer is using perks they don't like

    -the killer is using addons they don't like

    -they lost a chase and so on...

    TL:DR Some survivors just dc for every reason they can find, because they are not able to accept that maybe they are the problem, if they have to dc to everything.

    But don't let you fool yourself by those guys. The most survivors don't dc, if we really look how many people dc in... let us say 10 or more matches as example.

    Sure in some matches dc 2 or 3, but in the most matches, the most survivors stay in the matches.

    Edit: At least after my experience and what I have read in forums.

  • @BenZ0 said:

    @Talmeer

    Its obviously a opinion what Groot was saying, you cant force people to accept your opinion even if you know you are right. We all have many proofs and people that know what you mean. Just dont get to deep into these discussions.

    You are right Talmeer, there were counterplay andyour guides are really nice btw, I didnt read them all and everything but that just because i dont need to learn how to play legion, because i know i am really good on him too, just like you :)

    Thanks.

    Well, I think I need to work a little bit on myself. I have no problems to accept different opinions but I have honestly a hard time to let other opinions stay as facts, if they are no facts in my opinion^^.

  • @GrootDude said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/610227#Comment_610227

    It really didn’t. “Watch me vault everything while stabbing you” I played legion at basekit a lot and there was no counter play.

    As long as we talk about a Legion basekit - aka. a Legion without Addons, there was.

    But... I have learn in this forums, to write no tutorials anymore, or to even start to search tutorial videos for someone, because it ended always in denying the tutorial texts, or even the videos and... I actually would like to spent my time for more as just getting denied.

    So, then for some people the Legion had really no counterplay. Ok. And I don't mean that offensive. It's the same like with the Huntress: Not everyone can hit with her hatchets. It is just as it is.

    Edit: Sorry... It is usually not my nature to let someone down on this way, but this forums are kind of exhausting what this matters.

  • @GrootDude said:

    I actually think legion is more fun to play as and against now. I don’t think old legion should come back ever since he had no counter play, I’m not against a rework though.

    Legion basekit had counterplay.

    Some op addons not.

    Neutral solution to that problem: Nerf the addons. Not the basekit.

  • @Shaped said:

    I necroed my Legion recently and damn, I really missed playing them. I didn't play since nerf happened.

    I have to admit that Legion is really weak in current state, missing hits on console is more common too. Same goes for Pig. Two killers I really like but are unviable. Myers is way ahead of them for example and I can play him at red ranks and people consider even him unviable.

    I really wish that all killers are viable and I don't care what others think about that.

    I have not play since the patchday. The patchday was the first day where I have play "toxic" - at least that's what survivors have say then in my endgame chat, because I used my moris - I had never use them before^^ (I admit, I needed vengeance). And after a few rounds with my moris, I had stop then to play.

    I just can't see the Legion in the state she is now. That is not like I want to hold the Legion in my memories^^.

    But besides the Legion I had also played Meyers sometimes and the Trapper. I was acutally thinking to buy the Pig and the Hag (the Hag then with shards) before the Legion patch, but then the Legion patch had happened and with it got the Legion and the Pig nerfed and I had safed some money.

  • @BenZ0

    Exactly my thinking, but many know already about the problems of the Legion.

    Many time has passed and at this point, only people that have never really understand the Legion or maintain a personal hate against the Legion, are against a rework or undone, of the rework^^.

    With one of the next patches, they said that they will rework all, or at least some of the addons of the Legion.

    Still that will nothing change, since the basekit makes no fun anymore. Personally, I hope that the addons are just a first step.

    I wait for changes of the basekit of the Legion, or a undone of the changes to the basekit of the Legion, so that I can finally play the game again.

  • I had only in my first weeks look at my rank/stats and so on. After that, I had after a rank reset just play for fun.

    You get also the matches against red ranks in low ranks, so why bother to rank up?

    It's just unnecessary stress.

  • @Omans said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/608442#Comment_608442

    Like 95+ percent of games at red ranks are killers using good addons..

    Same can't be said for survivor. When I play killer I always bring addons. When I play survivor I rarely bring items. And it's more common to see only one or two survivors bring items.

    Killer gameplay is balanced around the fact that they will be using those addons. All these people saying 'base Nurse is fine' like that means anything. Show me a red rank killer who isn't using addons.

    Still I think it would be good for the nerf discussion's if we would not always talk about the worst case scenarios.

  • @PickCollins said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/606885#Comment_606885

    Except that's not the title of ur post. Ur title was "Nurse isn't that hard and yes she's OP". Ur trying to prove Nurse is OP by running Omega, which everyone knows already is OP. If you wanna prove something, you aren't doing it.

    Imo, survivors need finaly to learn, to look separately at the killers and their addon's.

    In threads that are about survivor nerfs, they are able to different between the survivor basekit and their items/addons/perks... So why not also by killers?

    Reminds me on a guy that tryd to show me how op the Legion was... With a ton of videos from guys that play with purple addon's :|. Needless to say, it hasen't work out.

  • @Vlyse

    Besides the question if the Nurse is op or not, I find it always fascinating when survivors say "xyz is no counterplay". Have already read the same from survivors to perks, mindgames and so on.

    Stealth is imo the strongest abilitie survivors have. Sure, with it, you can't run around like a guy who had step accidentally in a bee hive (at least thats how lopping sometimes looks like from a killer perspective ^^), but you can win with it easy matches, if you have the nerves to play a whole match as stealth character.

  • @NullSp3c said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/607004#Comment_607004

    Running at 5.6 ms for 12 seconds is a lot(67.2 meters) so it will be very hard for them to run you out. The current frenzy is 50 meters and it accomplishes nothing because of the ms being so low.

    "If you’re running towards one Survivor at 5.6 MPS, and the second one is running away at a rate of 4 MPS, then there is a total of 9.6 meters of distance being put between the second Survivor and you every second."

    You can't put things like that. This needs to be adjusted because there are variants.

    1st variant- The survivor doesn't run exactly the opposite way. What you described is an almost impossible situation.

    2nd variant- The different paths that a survivor can go through to run away aren't always a straight line.

    3rd- The survivor may or may not see you coming and, even if he hears you, may not know where you're going to.

    and so on...

    Basically that is the best of the best situations possible.

    By the old Legion, they don't had to do it. I mean... sure they got most likley hitten, but then they got that little sprint burst after a hit that safes their day if the Legion had not activate frenzy direct behind them or had not a addon running like Franks Mixtape.

    I just throw this in here, as a neutral information^^.

  • 15 min? That's enough to watch a standard YouTube video in the time between :).

  • @bkn

    Had the same experience, as soon as I started to post things in the dbd steam forums, what have some people dislike.

    Just make your profile only for friends, or private, problem solved.

  • Well, that's why I avoid watching dev streams of any sort for the most games.

    You barely get there the answers you are looking for.

    Would they actualy pic up every question from their communitys and answer them, I would think differently.

    And yes, some question getting asked again and again, but there is a easy solution to it-> Then make finaly what the community like to see and voila the question comes not anymore up.

  • @Khroalthemadbomber said:

    Me: ...

    Devs: "So yeah! We nerfed Pig's Ambush, but hey! She crouches and uncrouches faster and that's a good tradeoff, right?"

    Me: ...

    This made me giggle^^, but I can fully understand your reaction, had a pretty similar a while ago.

  • @Ember_Hunter said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/603681#Comment_603681

    Thanks. Yes, I am the most toxic survivor! I heal survivors with We'll Make It in... under 10 seconds!!! *dun dun dun!!!*

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/603682#Comment_603682

    Post chat is usually chill, I feel sad when killer immediately leaves due to the effect bad post chats have given, but when people get spicy, I usually defend whoever is most right. Only time I was spicy was when this David hid in a locker and only touched one gen and left all of us to die in hooks, and Ghostface spared him and farmed with him. Not fair that the person who did nothing got to survive >:(

    I remember me on a endgame chat, were a survivor starts to insult me because I had play Legion and that he still has survive against me op class playing newb^^.

    The 3 others said then that I had let them win and then he was surprisingly silent :).

    It was also really so.

    Friendly endgame chats take a bit the pressure out of the game. Helpfull after a stressing match.

  • @Knuckles said:

    It's pathetic that people put that much negative energy into a game and making somebody else feel like 💩. I'm glad consoles don't have post game chat.

    The endgame chat can also be positive/friendly. But it is as always the same if you running into a new group of people:

    With X of them you can talk, maybe even joke, but one or 2... Well... Someone need always to play the ahole role. Still, I have good memories on the endgame chat.

  • @Raidoku

    You blame in your postings killers and on the same time, you rant about that killers blame survivors. I can understand how you have came up with that mindset, but on this way, it didn't work.

    Would I still be playing, I would answer game releated questions as example, if the question sounds not passive-aggressive or even worse.

    Also my gamestyl was mostly imo not toxic.

    However, here in the forums... I really don't like to go here to deep into the topics if I feel me not forced to it, because after my experience, the survivors here are very entitled (not all, but still enough) and well... Why should I waste 30min+ writing an tutorial, or searching helpful links for someone, if the only thing I get back from the survivor is something like "I don't like to read it", or also a link from their favorite YouTuber that said, that the linkes videos from me are impossible (a thing that is crazy, since... would it be impossible, no one could make those videos but mkaeyyy....)?

    To survivors in the game I had try to be so helpful as possible, as long as they were polite/friendly (what they were mostly), but here in the forums... It's feeled just a waste of time, so hard that maybe sounds.

  • @vh_

    Had several survivors in my matches that got around 30k+ (can't remember if there was one with 32), if I had let them farm, because it was a 1v1/2v1 from the start on.

    Sometimes you have just matches were only a 1 survivor joins the match, or early dcing guys. That there then the farm rounds for me. Still they have make fun and the survivor were usually grateful after the match^^.

  • @Ember_Hunter

    He had just a bad day.

    If I play one day again, I will carry you to the gates, since you are ok. fingers crossed :).

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